Time: Conservative Republicans Living in 'Alternate Reality' on Debt Ceiling Ramifications
Conservative Republicans are divorced from reality while Democrats are governed by the facts.
That's the take Time's Alex Altman has on how the two congressional parties are addressing the looming debt ceiling deadline in his July 19 Swampland blog post, "The Fact Gap: Can Republicans Overcome Their Alternate Reality to Strike A Debt Deal?":
There are plenty of reasons Congress is playing a high-speed game of chicken with the debt-limit negotiations, but one of the main ones is that the two parties can’t agree on what would happen if they crash. On one side, the Obama Administration, Capitol Hill Democrats, Wall Street whizzes and budget experts have been wearing out their thesauruses looking up new words for “catastrophe” as they try to explain to the public that failing to raise the $14.3 trillion federal debt limit by Aug. 2 would result in a radically different country on Aug. 3. On the other, a passel of House Republicans are essentially dismissing these claims as hysterical fear-mongering.
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At first blush, House Republicans’ dismissal of overwhelming evidence from a bipartisan crop of experts seems staggering. But this is a party whose governing philosophy is predicated on the idea that government is perversely swollen, and that cutting off the circulation to some of its limbs can alleviate pressure without causing irreparable harm. Some Democrats believe that the Republican Party’s antipathy toward government, and their members’ perceived mandate to drastically shrink the budget, has clouded their ability to appraise the severity of the situation. And Democrats are clearly baffled by the challenge of persuading opponents who not only have a different set of priorities, but a different set of facts. “There’s a question about how much the facts matter to them,” says a Democratic official. “And I don’t know what to do about that.”
Of course, hitting a debt ceiling deadline is unprecedented, so it's uncertain what exactly will happen should August 2 come and go and the ceiling is not raised. As such it's not a "fact" that catastrophe would befall the U.S. economy, even if it's widely predicted or widely believed to happen.
What's more, Altman's focus on the August 2 deadline neglects a longer-term concern that credit ratings agencies have about the willingness or ability of Congress and the president to take tough measures to tackle the U.S. national debt.
As the Standard & Poor's agency noted last week (emphasis mine):
If a debt ceiling agreement does not include a plan that seems likely to us to credibly stabilize the U.S.' medium-term debt dynamics but the result of the debt ceiling negotiations leads us to believe that such a plan could be negotiated within a few months, all other things unchanged, we expect to affirm both the long- and short-term ratings and assign a negative outlook, pending review of the eventual plan. If such an agreement is reached, but we do not believe that it likely will stabilize the U.S.' debt dynamics, we, again all other things unchanged, would expect to lower the long-term 'AAA' rating, affirm the 'A-1+' short-term rating, and assign a negative outlook on the long-term rating.
Similarly on July 13, Moody's warned (emphasis mine):
If the debt limit is raised again and a default avoided, the Aaa rating would likely be confirmed. However, the outlook assigned at that time to the government bond rating would very likely be changed to negative at the conclusion of the review unless substantial and credible agreement is achieved on a budget that includes long-term deficit reduction. To retain a stable outlook, such an agreement should include a deficit trajectory that leads to stabilization and then decline in the ratios of federal government debt to GDP and debt to revenue beginning within the next few years.
Moody's does not take a position on what measures should be included in any deficit reduction package. Instead, it is the resultant deficit and debt trajectories that are relevant to the rating and its outlook.
In other words, whatever happens on August 2, the U.S. government MUST reduce its debt in the mid-to-long term or face the possibility of a downgrade in credit rating, which is certain to have negative economic consequences for the U.S. economy.
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TIME'S reality...
Submitted by P. Aaron on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:44pm.
these days, TIME is...nothing more than an office circular stitched in one corner.
It's great
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 1:01pm.
These idiots have nothing constructive to say, like our fearless leader. So they go to the marginalize crap line. What a bunch of pathetic losers.
OPM
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 1:19pm.
The reality challenge for the liberal progressive socialist left is that they have already run out of other people's money. Tax the rich 'til there ain't no more.
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Our bond and equity markets
Submitted by jdhawk on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 1:56pm.
Our bond and equity markets are clearly not upset one way or the other regarding the August 2 so-called "deadline." The equity markets have been down, but not because of our debt issues, but that of Europe's. Our bond markets, if they were worried about the August 2 deadline, would have raised the interest rates on all bond issues: government, corporate, and municipal. Instead, interest rates for the above types of bonds are at historically low levels and haven't budged except that the interest rates have gone DOWN most recenlty.
This is in direct contrast to those of say . . . Greece. Where their two year goverment bond is at 39%!!!. It moved 312 basis points just today. That is 3.12 percentage points in a single day. That is a HUGE move. Our two year government bond yield is 0.375%. That is about 1/3 of 1%.
This despite numerous LIBERAL Wall Streeters calling for the death of the U.S. markets as we know it. That includes Warren Buffet who has a controlling interest in one of the three U.S. rating agencies, Moodys. It seems as Lehman and Bear Stearns were going into the crapper, Moodys still rated their debt investment grade. So, we can hardly trust Moodys/Buffet to have much credence in this instance. Particularly, when it is quite probable that Buffet is making trading decisions off of what both high government officials tell him that he meets with on a regular basis and the pronouncements/ratings that Moodys is making. Talk about insider trading . . . .
dims: NOW, this is a catastrophe
Submitted by ThisnThat on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 2:13pm.
Flash back two years ago:
dims: No Federal budget? Not a problem. Yawn. Don't need one.
Maybe Time's butt-wipe Alex Altman could spend a few moments putting things into context, and stop his biased one-sided spinning of lies? Just once? So that we could actually get the truth? o'bama's strategy outlined Feb, 2011.
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TIME.....
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 2:48pm.
I use it to line the bird cage and as chew toys for my puppies......
I see Time is still wasting
Submitted by jessieH on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 3:25pm.
I see Time is still wasting trees.
Where is the Sierra Club?
Submitted by drsamherman on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 5:28pm.
How come they are not protesting the deforestation caused by that rag?
We could use an alternate reality . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 5:22pm.
One in which elected officials take responsibility and make hard choices. If we did live there, we might be able to correct our course.
If we're stuck in this reality an see no change, the Wicked Witch of the West Wing and his flying Hill monkeys will destroy our future.