Insisting that her opinion was not influenced by her views on abortion, MSNBC's Dr. Nancy Snyderman went on a tear shortly after 12:30 p.m. EST on her November 9 "Dr. Nancy" program, denouncing the "infuriating" Stupak Amendment to the Democratic health care bill passed on Saturday.
That amendment, named for pro-life Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak (D) would bar private insurance plans sold in the bill's publicly-subsidized insurance exchange from covering abortion. [audio available here]
As a consequence, women seeking to have insurance pay for abortion procedures under the would need to pay out-of-pocket for additional coverage for abortion procedures.
Snyderman hinted that she was annoyed that pro-life Democrats even thought it necessary to press for the Stupak Amendment in the first place. After all, Snyderman complained to MSNBC correspondent Kelly O'Donnell, she and her colleagues at MSNBC had done their level best for months to calm fears of pro-lifers about ObamaCare:
Story Continues Below Ad ↓I must admit this one caught me by surprise. I thought the public option was going to be the real rallying cry for Saturday. Because the Hyde Amendment is in place, over the summer we kept saying there will be no federal money spent on abortions and then the Stupak Amendment came in, really tightening the chance for a woman's right to choose. Clarify for me.
After O'Donnell explained the impact of the Stupak Amendment, Snyderman resumed her rant and concluded the segment:
Kelly, you know what I find so infuriating about this? I mean, absolutely infuriating. And this isn't about being pro-choice or pro-abortion, or any of the hot-butto lingo. We know women pay more for insurance than men. We know women are restricted in many states. And now it's basically, if you're a 50-year-old woman and you're in a monogamous relationship, you suddenly find yourself pregnant, you'd better know that you have an abortion rider in order to access health care that you thought you had, it is one more pressure on women. I'm surprised that frankly, that there isn't more outrage over fact that, this isn't fair!
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A white man deciding a woman's responsibility in her own procreation. I mean, I find it infuriating. I mean, I really think it doesn't matter what side of the abortion issue or pro-choice issue you're on, the fact that you're making health care harder and harder for women to navigate the system. I think it's outrageous, just outrageous. Kelly O'Donnell, thank you, so much.
And folks it's not about abortion. It really is about one more burden for women navigating the health care system. Before I blow my top, time to turn to Monica Novotny at the news desk.
Monica, get me outta here.
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The growing majority of
November 9, 2009 - 15:15 ET by Gat New YorkThe growing majority of Americans are opposed to abortions.
What does this fraud doctor not understand?
A woman does have a right to choose. She can choose:
1. Not to have intercourse.
2. Take some form of birth control.
3. Give the baby up for adoption.
How Terrible
November 9, 2009 - 15:17 ET by allanfI cannot fathom why insisting that a woman pay for an abortion puts very left wing Dr. Nancy into a state of high dudgeon. Virtually all pregnancies result from the voluntary conduct of the woman.
Soured
November 9, 2009 - 15:20 ET by holeinthehullHoleinthehull
This is one sour little Lib. I could not even imagine or picture a man with this little lemon vendor.
Infuriating is correct
November 9, 2009 - 15:29 ET by KC MulvilleIf her position is that any concerns about abortion are already covered by the Hyde Amendment, then why be upset at the Stupak Amendment?
It doesn't get more sexist and racist than this: "A white man deciding a woman's responsibility in her own procreation. I mean, I find it infuriating." Where does it say that a congressional ban on issuing taxpayer funds is a "white man's" burden imposed on women? Isn't it great that the moment they don't like the legislation, it's just a bunch of white men?
And she walks over herself: "I really think it doesn't matter what side of the abortion issue or pro-choice issue you're on, the fact that you're making health care harder and harder for women to navigate the system." Well, when the topic is women navigating the system to obtain an abortion at taxpayer expense, it certainly is a matter of what side of the abortion debate you're on.
She's simply displaying her stupidity. Monica, get her out of there.
white men! ARGH!
November 9, 2009 - 15:32 ET by dronetekWhy does she single out "white men"? What is this MSNBC obsession with drudging up hatred for white men?
Dronetek: From The Source
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It's been open season on
November 9, 2009 - 15:35 ET by FeynmanFanIt's been open season on white males for quite a while. It's the only group they can attack without fear of reprisal.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
FeynFan
November 9, 2009 - 15:41 ET by MrShyIt's been open season on white males for quite a while.
Are we talking specifically from white women / all women?
:p
MrShy
November 9, 2009 - 15:58 ET by FeynmanFanI think it's pretty much everybody who's not currently a white male. ;)
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Some lib men, too.
November 9, 2009 - 21:48 ET by tim413We've heard Olberf--ka-s and others bash white men (as a group) with whom they do not agree.
Stop federal judges from foisting their notions of "fairness" on the States. Amend the 14th Amendment! - tim413
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November 9, 2009 - 17:42 ET by CO2MakerCapital One credit cards: the husband is the stupid doofus who whips out the high-interest card and then the Vikings/Jesse James Gang/Barbarians, etc. start to pour over the hill, until they are stopped in their tracks when the wife pulls out her Capital One card.
How about American Express ad, where the couple are on the deck of the cruise ship and his wallet falls into the water. He displays a look that would make Goober Pyle look bright (and, btw, he looks like Anderson Cooper's smart brother). Wifey gives him an loving eyeroll and mentions AmEx. Life is good, until in the last scene on the island under a tree, a monkey reaches down and filches his wallet—again! Another hapless expression, another "but I love you anyway, a**hole" look from the wife.
I could go on. The examples are endless. (I haven't even hit the subgenre, Dads Are Dumb, in which not only does the wife save the day, but so does the child and even the dog.)
Ridiculous!
November 9, 2009 - 15:36 ET by DaMamaNancy Snyderman may be a doctor, but she hasn't an ounce of common sense. There is NO WAY as a taxpayer than I am going to pay for abortions of women who don't have the common sense to use birth control or exercise self control and keep their pants up. This is so simple for anyone with a double digit IQ to understand. And don't start waving around the "safe" abortion lie and what about rape victims. Less than 1% of abortions done in 2007 were from rape. And safe? Give me a break. Abortions are bad for women physically, mentally, and emotionally. Infertility, the rise of cancer in women, and post-abortion depression are real and are not made public by groups like NARAL and Planned Parenthood, because it would cut down on their income, which is the real bottom line here.
What???
November 9, 2009 - 15:39 ET by WhoIsJohnGalt"And now it's basically, if you're a 50-year-old woman and you're in a monogamous relationship, you suddenly find yourself pregnant..."
How does one suddenly find oneself pregnant??? Oops, the lasagne slipped out of my oven mitts and now I'm pregnant? I left the house, it was sunny, and now I'm pregnant? I fell asleep in front of the TV and now I'm pregnant?
Hey, it happens to me all the time
November 9, 2009 - 15:43 ET by KC MulvilleWell, OK, not all that often ...
Who's doing all that infuriating controlling of women?
November 9, 2009 - 15:44 ET by CO2Maker"White men." Democratic To-Do list: 1. Keep abortion legal. 2. Keep abortion legal. 3. Oppose SCOTUS nominees who will not keep abortions legal. 4. Define the acceptable political behavior of favored demographic groups, who are not white, and if they are white, aren't really white like from northern Europe, white, you know. 5. Keep abortion legal by claiming that any attempt to oppose abortion is a ploy by white men to oppose women and, well, you know ... 6. Pass social programs designed to take any excess wealth from people who earned it by declaring that that wealth is ill-gotten, "predatory," or leading to a widening of the income gap, and make sure you include funding in the social programs for abortion. 7. Scare enough consumers into not buying GM and Chrysler cars so you can get a bailout program passed and take over the car companies, so you can pass mandatory safety and fuel economy regulations that require seatbelts to protect passengers who have had a legal abortion. And men too, but why? 8. Secure funding for Planned Parenthood because it will keep abortions legal, especially for non-white people whom Planned Parenthood was established to eradicate.
OT: Blog response badly formatted
November 9, 2009 - 15:46 ET by CO2MakerSorry for the hard-to-read post. I typed it as a list of separate, numbered items, but this is what it came out looking like. One big pile of "mash up sack of text," to use a popular phrase.
I trie to reformat it twice, but to no avail.
I'm still trying to
November 9, 2009 - 16:17 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonI'm still trying to figurere out why it is that them evile white guys is responsible for poor decision making processes of females of all races, in all areas of the country.
Maybe it's because the pubic education/indoctrination system tell all these young females to go forth, trust the condom (if you remember it) and if all else fails, the white guy is going to pay for your abortion because, according to the hyperbole, only white guys work and pay taxes.
Would somebody that lives in a big city with slums please go into a cafe in the poorer section of town and explain to the waitress that you can't leave a bigger tip because you have to pay for abortions in her neighborhood? Honest, you don't have to be an evil white guy.
If you work for a living, regardless of race you deserve to make your feeling known.
http://gjresult.com
Maybe White Men Are Teh Sexy?
November 9, 2009 - 16:28 ET by TenebrousI think that's what it is, really. White men are so incredibly hot to women of all races and all shapes that they just make women do all sorts of things they wouldn't otherwise do.
Well, ok, maybe not...but how about this? Maybe these women all want a white man but can't get one, and so they blame all white men due to their inferior white man-attracting and white man-keeping skills?
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Nah, "the white guy"
November 9, 2009 - 17:24 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonNah, "the white guy" is just a phrase that scares people.
An unseemingly large percentage of those "Evil white men" are female, of all different races, all ages, etc.
http://gjresult.com
And just how many
November 9, 2009 - 15:45 ET by karelingAnd just how many 50-year-old women out there are suddenly finding themselves pregnant?
Hmmm....just how old is Dr. Snyderman,
November 9, 2009 - 15:48 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltand is she in a monogomous relationship?
Perhaps a Freudian slip?
The operative words are
November 9, 2009 - 15:50 ET by CO2Maker"suddenly" and "find"!
Q. How did you find the golf course today?
A. Well, I walked out of the clubhouse and there it was! >rim shot<
Q. How did you find yourself pregnant?
A. Uh ... suddenly? There I was, just staring at the ceiling, when an angel appeared and said he had some awesome news. Well, come to think of it, it wasn't an angel, just a guy I know, actually, my husband. But there I was, just staring at the ceiling, when suddenly ...
Now that she has lost it..
November 9, 2009 - 15:47 ET by averageschmoeThere is a job waiting for her in the Obama Administration.
She's constantly on the verge of "blowing her top"
November 9, 2009 - 16:15 ET by SickofLibsShe's constantly on the verge of "blowing her top", as she says - being passed over for Surgeon General and all.
You mean ... you mean ...
November 9, 2009 - 16:18 ET by CO2MakerWe might see her report topless on TV?
That could have an upside to it.
I agree, but the sound would have to be off
November 9, 2009 - 16:27 ET by SickofLibsI can't take that nasal lisp, to say nothing of the words actually coming out.
You find the
November 9, 2009 - 17:53 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonYou find the irrational screeching sound to be distracting too?
http://gjresult.com
Abortion has got to be one of the cheapest "medical procedures"
November 9, 2009 - 16:13 ET by SickofLibsIf an average abortion costs say $400, why are these maniacs so hell-bent on including coverage for it?
That's less than a standard deductible on a car policy and way less than even a tooth crown. Or does Obamacare include full dental with no deductible, too?
Want an abortion? It's legal - just pay for yourself it out-of-pocket and leave me out of it!
Because every dollar an individual can save with insurance
November 9, 2009 - 17:01 ET by CO2Makergoes to an iPod that they have a right to own.
" Only On MSNBC"
November 9, 2009 - 16:49 ET by ROSSMANThese are their words, as Fox uses "Fair and Balenced" Only on MSNBC means you won't find their CRAP anywhere else!!!
Two things....
November 9, 2009 - 17:26 ET by Texndoc1) It was a BLACK male who I saw on TV stressing "abortion would not be covered under this plan." True, HE LIES and that's a good counter-argument.
2) Statistically, a 50 year old woman has a fertility rate of 0%. Google any fertility/age chart.
Does anyone know if health
November 9, 2009 - 19:02 ET by momdmDoes anyone know if health insurance policies currently cover abortion?
Wait a minute...
November 9, 2009 - 19:05 ET by ProudAmerican58If federal money is used to "help pay for" a "private" insurance plan, doesn't that essentially mean it's not really a "private" insurance plan and therefore cannot be used to pay for an abortion as that would be considered using federal money to pay for an abortion?
You made my day
November 9, 2009 - 22:00 ET by thestalkinghorseHoleinthehull
"This is one sour little Lib. I could not even imagine or picture a man with this little lemon vendor."
Holeinthehull, I have tears streaming down my face, I guess nowadays we say "lmao".
Thanks for a great little post. They don't have to be long to be entertaining.