"How can the NFL overlook the a sleazy pop diva's questionable background while holding Limbaugh accountable for comments he's never made," wondered Brian Maloney in a Radio Equalizer blog post yesterday.
While the NFL is presenting itself as merely gun-shy of the controversy Rush Limbaugh would bring to the ownership table, it hardly seems worried about the controversy that a saucy pop star's ownership bid would bring.
Maloney explains, pointing out a double standard between the NFL commissioner scrabbling to denounce Limbaugh while practically encouraging a bid from pop artist Fergie of the Black Eyed Peas, an avid Obama supporter:
According to the AP late Tuesday evening, Fergie (real name: Stacy Ann Ferguson) has been pre-approved at a meeting of team owners before even placing a bid:
MIAMI — Fergie may soon be on the Miami Dolphins’ bandwagon as a limited partner.
NFL owners meeting in Boston this week approved the Black Eyed Peas singer as a part owner, but the team has yet to complete an agreement with her, Dolphins chief executive officer Mike Dee said in an e-mail Tuesday.
Fergie and the Black Eyed Peas already have a marketing partnership with the Dolphins. She wears a pink Dolphins jersey in a campaign this month for breast cancer awareness.
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Fergie, whose real name is Stacy Ann Ferguson, is a Grammy-winning singer and also an actress. Ross has said his celebrity partnerships stir excitement and reflect the vibrancy of South Florida, and he envisions the Dolphins as a glamour team.
Hey, why shouldn't Fergie pass the NFL's political litmus test? As an outspoken Obama supporter who appeared at his nomination acceptance speech in Denver last year, she's got the credentials they're looking for (even if parents are horrified). She also visited with the man whose oratory skills she finds "amazing" at the White House earlier this year.
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Good for Ratings
October 14, 2009 - 12:20 ET by allanfRush would probably be good for football ratings. The natterings of Sharpton and Jackson won't hurt their business one iota.
Exactly! Congres
October 14, 2009 - 14:17 ET by w2448hcExactly!
Congressman said: Obama has something to hide! : http://www.70news.com/2009/10/04/breaking-news-c
It would be interesting to
October 14, 2009 - 12:20 ET by DontTreadOnMeIt would be interesting to look up some of the Lyrics of the songs she has participated in. Im sure there is plenty of "divisive" things in there. Will Roger the Dodger comment on those like he did with Limbaugh? Will the many people who call for the outing of Limbaugh also call for the outing of Fergie?
The NFL Owners Are Wimps
October 14, 2009 - 12:26 ET by rammingspeedProblem is, because of the public relations aspect of the MSM, there are a gazillion liberals hooked into the NFL's interests. This is pure politics - falsely using the race card, but when has bald faced lying ever stopped a liberal - and I'm afraid that the NFL owners are going to cave and not let Limbaugh in on being an owner. They'd be smart to dump Fergie, too, and then they can say they've dealt with both ends of the spectrum.
Prediction: Rush is out.
Liberal Standard Operating Procedure #9
October 14, 2009 - 13:52 ET by ReaverCreate a lot of noise and outrage then brand the target controversial. Then it doesn’t matter if the quotes were real or not the NFL can say they denied him because he’s controversial and divisive, neatly sidestepping the issue of if its true or not.
I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me. - Hunter S. Thompson
The NFL
October 14, 2009 - 12:27 ET by 10ksnookerIs developing a problem they may not want. Going to be easy to forget about buying those sky-high tickets.
NFL blows
October 14, 2009 - 12:28 ET by jon_torlinIt used to be a tradition to watch the Superbowl with my dad because his birthday was near that time. After the last couple of years, with the crap they've had for halftime shows, especially after Janet Jackson, we don't really watch it anymore, that's the closest I would get to watching any NFL game and that was more to watch the new commercials than anything.
This stuff about Rush and the racist crap from Sharpton and others, pretty much sealed the deal for me, I've NO desire to watch anything NFL.
-Jon
Well Jon
October 14, 2009 - 12:32 ET by BlondeI quit watching NFL football about ten years ago....the Olphins were just too pathetic (still are). I watched the Vikings/Packers game last week, the first regular season game I've watched in years.
Why do you think I'm such a huge college football fan (besides having gone to Florida)? It's exciting, and no over-paid prima donnas demanding whatever it is they think they want.
I hope he fails, too.
not my thing
October 14, 2009 - 12:56 ET by jon_torlinnot to throw cold water or anything, football was never really my thing. But you are right, college football is more and more popular these days.
I was just talking with a co-worker who follows that more closely than the NFL side, he said he had heard something about the anti-Rush thing with the NFL and we both agree that it's gotten too politicized.
-Jon
Blonde
October 14, 2009 - 13:02 ET by doug1950Ditto. My feelings exactly. NFL too full of a**holery....lol
LOL, Doug
October 14, 2009 - 14:53 ET by BlondeHave you any ties?
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde
October 16, 2009 - 22:06 ET by doug1950lol....not a one. Got rid of all mine after that "incident".
Rush had a bit on this earlier today
October 14, 2009 - 12:28 ET by BlondeHe even played a rap ditty of hers....awful! When the transcript goes up, I'll see if I can find the lyrics....they were disgusting (but I find that to be true about rap in general).
The Olphins are attempting to broaden their fan base by branching out into the entertainment industry. So far, small ownership stakes have been sold to Jimmy Buffet, Gloria & Emilio Esteban, and the Williams sisters.
Oh, the irony! Fergie gets pre-approved, and Rush is stormed by liberal idiots who can't even cite his quotes properly.
I hope he fails, too.
If Rush gets denied on
October 14, 2009 - 12:29 ET by midnight cowboyIf Rush gets denied on purely false political allegations, I hope the NFL would be ready for a noticeable decline in viewership.
no I don't think so
October 14, 2009 - 12:42 ET by katainkentSports is Sports. I can't see more than a double handful of people giving up Monday night football over this. And I personally don't even follow sports.
This is nothing more than an unpleasant belch in the daily news cycle. In the end - the bottom line will still rule the day.
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October 14, 2009 - 12:30 ET by MeowMeowI don't know that I'd call Fergie "sleazy." Vapid, yes. Not a great role model, sure. Overrated, absolutely. But when I think of sleazy, I think of Joe Francis or Paris Hilton.
Just sayin'.
"If al-Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they
better hurry, because Obama is beating them to it." -- Rush Limbaugh III
Fergie Talks Meth, Gang-Loving Past
October 14, 2009 - 14:38 ET by OxyConhttp://www.popeater.com/2009/10/12/fergie-talks-meth-gang-loving-past/
"It started with ecstasy. I loved ecstasy. Loved it, loved it. It was great at first, then it just went ..." crashing down.
As for crystal meth: "It ruins you."
Paranoia and heightened anxiety are well-known effects of the drug. Fergie admits she became convinced the FBI was after her, so she blackened all the windows in her apartment. In one widely notorious event, she conversed with a hamper for several hours.
Other dangers existed too, like when a drug dealer held a gun to her head during a score gone wrong. "Yeah, that was crazy. Don't mess with East LA. Thank the Lord, I'm here."
All the while during her lost year, Fergie developed an obsession with Hispanic "Cholo" gang members.
"Oh yeah. It was very alluring, very romantic. Well, I romanticized it. I thought it was artistic." And the men? "I still think gangsters are cute."
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Fergie is taking stripping lessons to please her husband in the ...
http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/fergie-likes-pole-dancing-josh-duhamel-agrees-201284/
In a recent interview, Josh Duhamel bragged about installing a stripper pole in his home as a gift for his girlfriend Fergie.
Apparently, Josh pitched the gift as “a fun alternative to her exercise regime.” And the Glamorous singer took to a liking to it beyond her husband’s wildest dreams - enrolling in classes to learn some proper technique.
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Fergie Reveals Sexy Meaning Behind Her "London Bridge" Song
http://www.exposay.com/fergie-reveals-sexy-meaning-behind-her-london-bridge-song/v/4568/
Believe it or not, Fergie's new catchy song isn't really about the London Bridge or the cute nursery rhyme for that matter. The Black Eyes Peas hit solo single is really about a foursome sex orgy - the horror!
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Where I come from, that's pretty sleazy stuff and if the NFL wants to start setting standards for potential owners, then where does it end? How about the players? Apparently there are no standards low enough for them, as every team in the league has more than a few low lifes and convicts. Do the players really want to start a war about who can and who can't own a team when there are many of them who would be considered the dregs of society?
There is no way you can
October 14, 2009 - 12:37 ET by 24enakThere is no way you can compare Fergie's support of Obama to all the racially offensive things Rush has said. The NFL isn't distancing itself from Rush Limbaugh because he is conservative, they are distancing themselves because he is a polarizing person whom has been saying offensive things for many years. Fergie, and the other celebrity part owners of the Dolphins aren't polarizing figures.
The NFL doesn't want to bring controversy to the league, they discourage controversy and that is why Rush will never own a major sports team as long as he has his radio show and is a public ally controversial figure.
Allowing Rush to own an NFL team would be bad for the NFL and that is why it is never going to happen.
enak
October 14, 2009 - 12:39 ET by katainkentwhich racially offensive things, exactly?
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this pretty much covers it
October 14, 2009 - 13:25 ET by Wisdomhttp://mediamatters.org/research/200910130049
wisdom
October 14, 2009 - 13:28 ET by katainkentdo you have your own argument?
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No, I'm just giving you a
October 14, 2009 - 13:39 ET by WisdomNo, I'm just giving you a link that you requested, that has a list of a wide array of things Rush has said that can be interpreted by some as racially offensive.
ah
October 14, 2009 - 13:44 ET by katainkentwell I was hoping for something a bit more substantial.
? I'd say that link is
October 14, 2009 - 13:48 ET by Wisdom? I'd say that link is quite thorough. Did you read the whole thing already? Are you looking for more?
It's raw material
October 14, 2009 - 13:58 ET by katainkentbut since I don't necessarily agree with the premise, I'd like someone to present their own argument rather than rely on Media Matters. I hope you understand.
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I understand but I "relied"
October 14, 2009 - 14:06 ET by WisdomI understand but I "relied" on the Media Matters link because you had asked the original commenter "which racially offensive things" he/she was referring to. And since I don't have all the quotes in my head, naturally I provided you with a substantial link that has all the information you might need to understand what makes Rush's bid to own an NFL team controversial. You never presented any argument, you just asked a question.
well then I apologize
October 14, 2009 - 14:10 ET by katainkentand have further explained my request.
You link
October 14, 2009 - 14:56 ET by UpNorthMediaMatters? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Thanks for the laughs. Why don't you try to come up with one independently sourced quote that shows Rush's ovbious racism? I'm sure you can find one citing someone on Fox, or NB as the source, right? Not one from the folks who gave us Bush's TXANG papers, or refused to delve into Earbama's background.
Why don't you pick one of your Media Matters
October 14, 2009 - 13:42 ET by Blondetalking points, and explan, precisely, how it's racist.
I hope he fails, too.
I'm not using Media Matters
October 14, 2009 - 13:56 ET by WisdomI'm not using Media Matters talking points. I'm just using their link because it is the most thorough one I've found and has the best compilation of all the things he's said.
And I never said it was "racist." I said these links will show you why SOME (many in the NFL) perceive it to be "racially offensive," or at the very least, insensitive.
If you can't see how all these statements compiled together could be controversial, especially in a league with a high proportion of blacks, then I don't know what to tell you. And if we stay on point with this specific blog post and further the discussion, are we supposed to think Fergie would be as controversial for the NFL as Rush would?
I never said YOU did, did I?
October 14, 2009 - 14:13 ET by BlondeBecause my initial post was to 24Troll....you popped in and defended him with your link to MM.
Gosh, the man talks for three hours a day, and has been doing a regular radio show for the past twenty years. You think, maybe, he's said some controversial things during that time?
The point, in case you missed it, is that her part-ownership was pre-approved by the NFL (as I understand it, her deal has not yet been finalized by the Dolphins)....yet Limbaugh is being excoriated by the leftists for things that he didn't say, or which were taken out of context.
Sheesh.
I hope he fails, too.
Thats a long list there
October 14, 2009 - 14:04 ET by nwahsThat's a long list. Yesterday I asked why didn't they just concede the dubiously sourced quote and concentrate on the stuff that can be easily sourced? I had no idea there was that much stuff!
Now who is going believe Rush is so inarticulate as to be misunderstood on all of that? If he's being misunderstood on all those comments, he's doing it on purpose and for money. He's a shock jock.
lol
October 14, 2009 - 14:10 ET by katainkentwhich one have you never seen before?
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Several - if fact I only listed 4 yesterday
October 14, 2009 - 14:20 ET by nwahsThese are the four I listed yesterday :
Obama is
"Halfrican-American." On January 24, 2007, Limbaugh referred to Obama and actress
Halle Berry as
"Halfrican-American[s]," stating that "Barack Obama has picked up another
endorsement: Halfrican-American actress Halle Berry."
Limbaugh then said: " 'As a Halfrican-American, I am honored to have Ms.
Berry's
support, as well as the support of other Halfrican Americans,' Obama said."
Limbaugh then conceded that Obama "didn't say it."
Limbaugh on Survivor series: "African-American tribe"
worst swimmers, Hispanics "will do things other people won't do."Survivor, in which
contestants were reportedly divided into competing "tribes" by ethnicity, "is
not going to be fair if there's a lot of water events." In support of this
assertion, he cited a March 2, 2006, HealthDay article reporting that "young
blacks -- especially males -- are much more likely to drown in pools than
whites." He later added that Hispanics have "probably shown the most survival
tactics," that they "have shown a remarkable ability to cross borders," and that
they can "do it without water for a long time, they don't get apprehended, and
they will do things other people won't do." On his September 29, 2006, show,
Limbaugh claimed "[t]here can only be one
reason" Survivor
On August 23,
2006, Limbaugh suggested that the competition in a season of CBS' scrapped "segregated"
competition after two episodes -- "the white tribe had to be
winning."
The use of the Jeffersons "Moving on up theme song and the feature with Bo Snurdly doing Ebonics translations - neither mentioned in this list.
I knew about the "Magic Negro" song and the white kid getting beat up video, but the rest of the stuff is new to me.
Man that's a long list. And its sourced.
You need to take a lesson from Pop Tech
October 14, 2009 - 14:26 ET by SickofLibsHere's what you do:
You have a text file ready sitting on your desktop, then VOILA! you just cut-n-paste it all in.
Looks like Dave Chappel and Carlos Mencia are disqualified
October 14, 2009 - 14:46 ET by OxyCon....from being NFL owners, since they both have done the same thing as Rush.
For your veiwing pleasure:
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=91783&title=more-stereotype-olympics
Chappelle and Mencia aren't
October 14, 2009 - 14:52 ET by Another Dead KennedyChappelle and Mencia aren't even in the same universe. One intelligently and creatively pokes fun at racism (see Black KKK leader skit), while the other teaches moronic fratboys that it's okay to use racial stereotypes. One of these comics quit his own show, the other was cancelled. But obviously neither is interested in purchasing the worst NFL team in the league.
xoxo - Ted
imo World of Dice is funnier
October 14, 2009 - 15:09 ET by OxyConhttp://www.vidilife.com/video_play_222703_Dave_Chapelle_World_of_Dice.htm
* content warning, adult humor.
One thing Chappel, Mencia and Limbaugh have in common is they're all entertainers who have said controversial things about race during attempted humor.
Rush is held to a different standard because, one, he ain't funny, two, Libs hate his guts, three he's known for political commentary.
The point is that the Libs and their media allies are using feigned, mock outrage in a sad attempt to destroy someone they disagree with.
And Mediamatters sucks. Take a good look at George Soros and the many, many shady, despicable things he's done throughout his life. He's directly and personally responsible for the death and hardship of many people through his dealings with the Nazi's and his currency trading scams which ruined the economies of many nations.
er...
October 14, 2009 - 14:48 ET by katainkentlimbaugh vs colin powell?
"the top ten racist things from ... " which includes multiple items on that list including darfur, mcnabb...
I could spend a couple more min on google picking out all the rest of the things I remember but I hope I've made my point? I see possibly four things I've never seen before and I can say this because almost my entire education regarding Rush Limbaugh has been from watching you throw yourself against this board for the last year.
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Its just a shame
October 14, 2009 - 14:59 ET by nwahsMany in the GOP will see this as martyrdom, and not a lesson that antagonism doesn't get votes or win people over. It should be a teachable moment in the GOP. But it won't be. It will be the martyrdom of Rush.
I agree
October 14, 2009 - 15:07 ET by katainkentbut, unfortunately for different reasons. We. as an american society have been fed this 'political correctness' tiny bite by tiny bite. Now... we have to abide with it. Whether it conceals the truth of a matter or not.
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Rush has every right to
October 14, 2009 - 16:21 ET by JerRush has every right to be politically incorrect and racially insensitive. Indeed, his long history of exercising that right on a very public stage in a very compelling manner has bestowed wealth and power and fame upon him beyond [I'm sure] even his wildest imagination. But those who are offended by this behavior also have every right to condemn it and register their intense displeasure regarding Limbaugh's potential ownership of an entity employing a substantial (and disproportionate) number of individuals whose race has borne much of the brunt of his political incorrectness.
Those who object have not served their cause by citing what are very likely bogus quotes attributed to Limbaugh, and members of the media who have recklessly and reflexively repeated them without proper corroboration have done a disservice to Rush and stained whatever shred of journalistic credibility they still enjoy. They leaped at the most inflammatory and overtly bigoted remarks in a futile effort to prove Limbaugh "racist", while largely ignoring the mountain of evidence of racial insensitivity.
Jer
ugh....
October 14, 2009 - 16:34 ET by MrShyLook who's back.
"Rush has every right to be politically incorrect and racially insensitive" ??
"They leaped at the most inflammatory and overtly bigoted remarks in a futile effort to prove Limbaugh "racist", while largely ignoring the mountain of evidence of racial insensitivity." ???
Most of your post is a "is he standing up for Rush or is he.... no, wait, he's playing us and in the end calling him insensitive and his remarks overtly bigoted" trick.
I'm no Rush fan, but you should read my post below and you might have a better understanding of him.
I had already read it, Shy...
October 14, 2009 - 16:49 ET by JerI had already read it, Shy...
Sorry, but it failed to "better" my understanding of Rush. Maybe you should reread my post. I did not call his remarks 'overtly bigoted', but instead noted that the most 'overtly bigoted' examples were very likely bogus quotes which had been recklessly repeated and reported. I have never claimed that Limbaugh is a racist. But, in my opinion, he has made numerous racially insensitive comments.
Jer
Jer
October 14, 2009 - 17:09 ET by MrShy"But, in my opinion, he has made *numerous* racially insensitive comments."
I don't listen to the guy, but it can be argued that he at times tells it like it is, in his opinion. But numerous? And keep in mind, he's been a jockey for over two decades now.
Of the 28 that Media Matters very thoroughly plucked out as the worst "offenses" -- and each broken down in my post below -- which ones do you see as racially insensitive?
EDIT: Sorry, here are the Remaining Seven of the 28... :p
Limbaugh on Survivor series: "African-American tribe" worst swimmers, Hispanics "will do things other people won't do."
Limbaugh repeatedly calls Native Americans "Injuns."
"[I]n Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering."
Limbaugh suggests Obama would not have acted on Somali pirates if he'd known they were "actually young, black Muslim teenagers."
Limbaugh: "The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."
Limbaugh says "NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips."
Limbaugh declares basketball "the favorite sport of gangs."
Shy...
October 14, 2009 - 17:37 ET by JerYou are debunking the charge of "racism" in your post, and that is not--nor has it ever been--my argument. But those Media Matters examples [which I believe are just the relative recent ones] are evidence of a continuing pattern of racial insensitivity on the part of Limbaugh, and it is so even where there may be demonstrable underlying validity to his comments and opinions.
Such as...
Once again, the offensive aspect of the "tired" Magic Negro incident is overlooked. If Rush had merely pointed out that the term was (ironically?) used in an article by a liberal black LA Times columnist, I would have had no problem with his conduct. But Limbaugh couldn't let it go at that. He ignored the decades-old usage of the term as a cultural touchstone and literary device while leaving the [false] impression that Ehrenstein had coined the phrase. Then he flogged the issue beyond all reasonability with the repeated, mocking use of the word "negro" and the incessant playing of the "Magic Negro" parody at his website. All in all, just one among many examples [his penchant for saying "axed" instead of "asked"] of Limbaugh's racial insensitivity.
Jer
Jer
October 14, 2009 - 17:57 ET by MrShyWell, you bring up two.
Saying "axed" is ridiculing them for mangling the English language. You want to advocate that slang and ways to wrongly pronounce words are good things? To me, it's just insensitive to your high level of nervousness/sensitivity towards "sensitive" minorities, who apparently can't argue the subject on their own. It's wrong and I don't like hearing "asked" pronounced "axed", especially when everyone around them who isn't black/minority, pronounces it the right way, so they surely know this.
Regarding the "Magic Negro" thing, again, I don't listen to his show so don't know how constantly he banged that drum, but I thought it was one incident/one time he sang it and/or put it on his website, but surely not something he continued to do over the years. Unless I'm wrong, and you listen to his show/visit his site more than I do.
So, if that's all you have, "numerous" as to the number of racially insensitive things he's said/done sounds like a bad (and vague) estimate.
So really, in summation: Provocative and outspoken? Yes. Consistently and frequently racially insensitive? No. Racist at all? Obviously not.
Okay, Shy... I'm pleased
October 14, 2009 - 18:37 ET by JerOkay, Shy...
I'm pleased with your concern for speaking proper English. Would you now care to speculate on the reaction if Rush repeatedly mocked the "mangled English" spoken by large numbers of undereducated, poor, rural southern white folks (many of whom are in all liklihood avid Limbaugh fans)?
Jer
Jer
October 14, 2009 - 18:42 ET by MightyMouthRush only mocks Libtards. If you have ever listened to his show, you would know, he gives hicks a lot of leeway!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
MM...
October 14, 2009 - 18:44 ET by JerI know...I listened to Rush for years, and still do occasionally.
Jer
You are a backslider son
October 14, 2009 - 18:50 ET by MightyMouthCome back into the light!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
MM...
October 14, 2009 - 18:57 ET by JerI was being blinded by the light, MM...plus it was causing an embarrassing skin rash. :-)
Jer
Jer
October 14, 2009 - 18:46 ET by MrShySure, let him mock any and all poorly mangled words and those that do it. And again, this is not an accent but literally pronouncing a word as if it's spelled "axed" not "asked", with the K and S reversed. It's embarrassing.... "aksed"... essentially.
And why are you running to argue their side of it with a shoe-on-the-other-foot analogy? I think they'll be just fine, and might learn that little things like pronouncing words properly the way the rest of society does might very well help to pull them out of their "minority status" muck. Same certainly goes with, oh say, rednecks, as you are obviously referring to.
Rednecks?
October 14, 2009 - 19:12 ET by JerSame certainly goes with, oh say, rednecks, as you are obviously referring to.
Er...no, I was referring to "undereducated, poor, rural southern white folks". You called them "rednecks". Why?
Jer
Jer
October 14, 2009 - 19:16 ET by MrShyBecause I felt like it. But don't go defending them suddenly. Again, all these people can take care of themselves.
That's Conservatism 101, Jer.
EDIT: And yes, that includes Rush and a conservative. But well, I'm on a right-leaning site, so we're here to defend them (well, it's part of what we're here to do.)
and Jer
October 14, 2009 - 18:55 ET by MrShyBig difference...
"Aksed" is used universally by blacks, and only blacks. By universally, I am not saying all of them, I am saying it's done EVERYWHERE. Not just in the rural southern regions. It is done in front of me in New York City, where poor people live usually next door or blocks away from better educated people, and we all move around a lot. They know there are two ways to pronounce it, with half or more of the people around them daily pronouncing it normally.
People speaking a certain way because of where they're from -- a whole region/city/state -- is different. Blacks and whites speak a certain rural/southern way for the most part, I'm sure.
So, bad analogy. Nice try.
of COURSE he has....
October 14, 2009 - 18:02 ET by ckc1227"But, in my opinion, he has made numerous racially insensitive comments.
Jer"
When it comes to criticizing or joking on a black person, it's impossible for it not to be racially insensitive.
ckc1227
October 14, 2009 - 18:07 ET by MrShyExactly. You see, when it comes to minorities or blacks, the Jers and liberals of this world need to come to their defense and protect them. They can not protect themselves.
Nice, huh?
What an incredibly stupid
October 14, 2009 - 18:20 ET by JerWhat an incredibly stupid statement.
Jer
Jer?
October 14, 2009 - 18:26 ET by MrShyWhat an incredibly stupid response.
You're part of it, so you don't get it, I guess.
I "get it" Shy... It
October 14, 2009 - 18:40 ET by JerI "get it" Shy...
It wasn't a complex statement, just incredibly stupid.
Jer
I acknowledge your point,
October 14, 2009 - 18:19 ET by JerI acknowledge your point, ckc...
and generally agree with it. Do I think the sensibilities of the average black person are a bit too "tender"? Yes. If I were black, would mine be? Maybe. Considering the long history of racial bigotry and intolerance toward blacks, I can understand why there are lingering sensitivities. Do I think it is time--way past time--to put the historical transgressions behind us and celebrate the real progress which has occurred over the last half century? Definitely.
Jer
hello Jer
October 14, 2009 - 18:20 ET by katainkentYes the media was quite lazy, but in having to bring up the comments that could actually be lent context there would have to be a discussion about that context. Which will always bring up issues that the 2.5 min attention span of a news person can't simply impart to a viewer. Nor, do I think they would try. It would require debate and analysis that you simply do not see on tv anymore. And I would have to agree with ckc here. There is no way that you can publicly criticize a minority without the mainstream media jumping all over it and making it about race.
The liberal media and by extention the liberal agenda has designed a 'box' in which people can 'act with civility'. Racism, Sexism, Agism, picking on people with mental disabilities, etc... the list is lengthy. But liberals themselves stray from this 'box' constantly and say 'its ok because we're concerned and fight for the rights of minorites'. And that's the end of the discussion.
When in truth it seems to me that they are simply using them as a power base by constantly feeding their outrage.
Even after this realization people - people who try to see themselves as fair minded conservatives - still try to stay in this 'box'. I think its because they fear being bullied, called out, and labeled. I would certainly be hesitant. Agreeing with Rush, or at the very least rejecting the immediate premise of racism - apparently makes you bigoted and racist. Who wants to wear that badge, despite the fact that its getting old and tiresome the media can make it hurt. Talk about picking fights with people who buy their ink by the barrel.
I think its fine that people express their opinion. It would be nice to see someone actually do it in a manner that is not just four words or less. I'd like to see a dialog.
now, I gotta see some children off to a music event :) ciao.
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
kata
October 14, 2009 - 18:32 ET by MrShyFunny how I expressed essentially the same thing in my short-worded quip about the way liberals are... protecting minorities as a power-grab thing, really, and my statement was called incredibly stupid.
I hope "that person" calls your post the same thing... well, no, I mean, I hope he doesn't... but you get my drift. :)
No, Shy...
October 14, 2009 - 18:51 ET by Jerkata's commentary actually demonstrated careful thought and analysis--although I still disagree with it in part--while your statement was just incredibly stupid.
Jer
Jer
October 14, 2009 - 18:53 ET by MrShyNegative. I just dumped your name in with liberals. Only difference. We are saying the same thing.
Don't get me started. I know you like to rankle me, but leave it alone.
Or what? You'll play the
October 14, 2009 - 19:05 ET by JerOr what? You'll play the 'intellectually dishonest' card for the umpteenth time?
BTW, I'm not labeling you incredibly stupid. On the contrary, your stupidity is very credible. (Just kidding....you're obviously intelligent. But that one statement was nonsense.)
Jer
Jer
October 14, 2009 - 19:10 ET by MrShyIt was what kata wrote, essentially, so unless you find it's deliberate minimalism for humor's sake to rub you as "incredibly stupid", then I think you were just fishing for something to call "incredibly stupid"... which would, perhaps, egg me on to call you that awful thing again, sure.
But back to the nitty gritty here. You made a claim that Rush has "numerous" times been racially insensitive, but all you've shown us is the "Magic Negro" incident (or incidenceS, but we haven't cleared that up either) -- and this, again, was in playful response to something a LIBERAL initiated.
You said "numerous". Where's the "numerous"?
Shy...
October 14, 2009 - 19:24 ET by JerIt was simply an elaboration on one of the 20+ MediaMatters examples, the majority of which I incorporated by reference. That's a fair number. We can quibble over whether it's "numerous".
Jer
And, the suggestion that I rush to their defense because blacks are unable to do so--or because I believe they are unable to do so--is not only stupid, but it is also condescending, patronizing, elitist, and, yes, racially insensitive.
double
October 14, 2009 - 19:35 ET by MrShypost... sorry.
Jer
October 14, 2009 - 19:34 ET by MrShyWow, I asked you to give me examples to back up your "numerous" claim, but you've given only one -- well, two, but I've argued that it's only one. Do you just not want to delve into this and give me actual multiple examples to justify using the word "numerous"?
I debunked -- I like to think -- the 20-plus list, so that's why I asked you for specific ones YOU saw as racially insensitive.
You "debunked" those
October 14, 2009 - 20:02 ET by JerYou "debunked" those examples just like you "debunked" ask and axed, i.e. not at all. You justify Rush's conduct in furtherance of the alleged "larger good" of elevating the quality of English discourse. That justification, however, skirts the issue of racial sensitivity inasmuch as Limbaugh, regardless of the nobility of his objective, is targeting blacks for selective ridicule. To me, that reeks of racial insensitivity.
References to Obama as Halfrican, an angry black man, and similar labeling [while disingenuously claiming he doesn't view him as a black president] are, again in my view, racially offensive. I've read his McNabb comments--which essentially imply he is an affirmative action quarterback--at least a dozen times. And they still seem as racially objectionable as ever. But I'm sure you disagree. So this all seems rather pointless.
Jer
Jer
October 14, 2009 - 20:13 ET by MrShyOkay, so Halfrican-American, "angry black man", the McNabb comment, teasing about aksed/asked and Magic Negro. That's five.
Fair enough. I had to go through some 6-7 posts to get you to give me your examples, finally, but thanks.
Halfrican-American
October 14, 2009 - 20:17 ET by Sergeant ROCK* sniff *
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Magic Negro was from a
October 14, 2009 - 21:00 ET by MightyMouthMagic Negro was from a black writer in the LA times.
Angry Black Man-- yeah considering his church affiliation that is pretty close to reality.
McNabb comment had more to do with affirmative action not race. Or is affirmative action about race? I forget. (First black--whatever) who really cares! First black plumber, first black auto mechanic, first black CEO. All really worthwile and nobel winning accomplishments.
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Magic Negroes
October 14, 2009 - 21:05 ET by Sergeant ROCKEven some black commentators/writers came out and said it was foolish to accuse Rush of racism when he did not invent the term. He was illustrating the absurd with absurdity. His detractors are just too stupid to figure it out.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
MM
October 14, 2009 - 21:23 ET by MrShyIt's in one ear out the other with Phony Jer. I've already exhausted myself with a complete deconstruction of those Media Matters Rush-the-racist/inflammatist, and he pretended to backtrack a little, but then later claimed I debunked nothing.
Jerry the phony
October 14, 2009 - 21:27 ET by Sergeant ROCKLike nwahs, the hardcore conservative, lil' Jerry spends an inordinate amount of time slandering Rush while ignoring the racism of his side - namely the President's.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Sarge
October 14, 2009 - 21:31 ET by MrShyRight. But Phony Jerry's a "centrist" so we need to leave him alone while he drops his "centrist" dingle-berries all over NB, week in and week out.
Shy
October 14, 2009 - 21:35 ET by MightyMouthHang in there buddy! Keep up the good fight! And looking forward to next song release!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Magic Negro was from a
October 14, 2009 - 23:09 ET by JerMagic Negro was from a black writer in the LA times.
One more time: The term has been around for generations. Ehrenstein didn't invent it, but was presenting a serious--if not entirely coherent--association of the phrase and its implications in light of Obama's candidacy. The exact wording of this rhetorical device is, was, and always has been "Magic Negro"--not "Magic Black Men" or "Magic African-Americans". Rush, however, saw it as a convenient license to utter the word "Negro" over and over again, and then to play and post a song parody on his show and website. [Do you believe that since many blacks use the N-word that Rush should be free to utter that word at his whim?]
It was naivete and racial insensitivity on Limbaugh's part, but not "proof" of racism.
Jer
Yeah. but... in this
October 14, 2009 - 23:12 ET by MightyMouthYeah. but... in this context it was from a black "journalist"in the LA times. right?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
MM...
October 14, 2009 - 23:33 ET by JerRight.
Jer
Psst #2....Peanut Gallery Strikes Again....
October 14, 2009 - 17:56 ET by ckc1227"Many in the GOP will see this as martyrdom, and not a lesson that antagonism doesn't get votes or win people over."
The Democrat party circa 2004 to the present says "hi".
Wisdom, 24, Kengie, nwahs-the-Rush-hater, etc..
October 14, 2009 - 16:14 ET by MrShyWisdom, 24, Kengie, nwahs-the-Rush-hater, and the Media Matters crew...
Okay, so, in total at our friends at Media Matters is a compilation of 28 Rush quotes. I broke it down, and of these, 21 are neither racist nor "racially charged", while the remaining seven we can argue about. Really, NONE of them show him to be racist, but just his commentary in response to factual stuff and happenings in our country, for every single one of them.
That brings us to 75% of all of these comments/quotes being invalid with regards to any charge of racism, and which we can now remove from the argument. But I've taken the liberty of going through each one just so we're all clear...
So here goes, all the ones we can toss off the list, to start:
"We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because his father was black."
We absolutely ARE (conservatives/Republicans/non-Obama lovers) so he's absolutely right. Everywhere, we're told we are (or "might be") racist if we're not thrilled and not fawning over this man.
"I do believe" Obama is an "angry black guy."
Rush believes he is, and there are plenty of things to point to to back it up. Either way, it's his opinion about one man, who is black (sorry, half white/half black.)
"Obama's entire economic program is reparations."
It practically is. We've all documented extensively his political and social past, so there's no argument here. Again, Rush is pointing out facts, and many happen to do with race because, well, he's our first non-white president. Conservatives are AGAINST counter-productive (and racist) measures like reparations and affirmative action, and we yearn to have *everyone* on the same playing field with an opportunity to individually pursue our happiness, wealth, etc.. Of COURSE Rush should point this out.
Obama is "more African in his roots than he is American" and is "behaving like an African colonial despot."
As you can read below it, he simply offers his two cents after reading an article exposing Obama's background:
After reading extensively from an American Thinker column smearing Obama, Limbaugh said on June 26 that Obama is "more African in his roots than he is American" and is "behaving like an African colonial despot."
How is he being racist or "racially charging" anything here?
Obama is "Halfrican-American."
Obama is…. uh, yeah, Halfrican-American, if you will. He's half white/half black. Oh, "Halfrican" is offensive and insensitive? If people went around calling him German-American (assuming his mother is, say, from Germany) wouldn't blacks be rightfully furious and feel disrespected? Myself and many/most conservatives hate all the "-American" names for… um..… Americans.
"Obama has disowned his white half ... he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side."
We've all tirelessly shown (or tried to) Obamabots just how quickly this guy threw his mother under the bus, went to a radical all-black and America/white-hating church for 20 years, is friendly with so many typical black race-hustlers who have no real desire to bring change to their struggling race and it's communities, but only to continue to exploit their minority status.
Sotomayor "a reverse racist" appointed by Obama, "the greatest living example of a reverse racist."
Once again, Rush is just standing up for what so many people see as a fact. He's not political correct, and cow-towing to the victimhood game of minorities, and being fair by calling them out where he sees wrongs on any side.
Latching onto LA Times op-ed, Limbaugh sings "Barack, The Magic Negro."
This one is so tired. Even they remind us that he sang this in RESPONSE to something a liberal op-ed writer wrote. Where's the racism?? What, Rush can't touch anything about race when responding to liberal race-mentioning?
"God does not have a birth certificate. Neither does Obama"; Obama "has yet to prove he's a citizen."
Precisely. Obama has yet to prove he's a citizen. (And even if he did… the racism??)
Limbaugh on Gates controversy: "Here you have a black president trying to destroy a white policeman."
We all know what Obama came out and said in his response to this laughable situation. Later, he did not apologize for it and only vaguely portrayed the whole thing as a misunderstanding between the two parties. Uh, no, this was about a racist and completely disorderly black man verbally assaulting a good cop who was white.
Limbaugh suggests Democrats, media believe "you can't criticize the little black man-child."
While maybe he didn't need to go there with "little black man-child", we all very much believe that the media indeed behaves this way, as do all our Democrat friends we all know and Dems everywhere. He was also using "man-child" because he sees Obama as coddled because of his mixed race, and he very much is.
"The government's been taking care of [young blacks] their whole lives."
They absolutely have, as they have been doing to many people. And look where that's gotten these people?
"The days of [minorities] not having any power are over, and they are angry."
Yep, he's right. They've come such a long way, and still, they act like little to nothing has changed. Total BS.
"[M]inorities never do anything for which they have to apologize."
It's a generalization, but it's indeed how a lot of people -- myself included -- genuinely see it, regarding the PC climate we're in, and how we coddle minorities and treat them specially, so they never feel the need to take responsibility for their situation at all.
Limbaugh invented "racial component" to Hackett's decision to withdraw from Ohio primary race.
Reading further, it appears Rush was mistaken about someone's race, and that's all this was. Non-issue, it appears to me.
Limbaugh suggested Colin Powell only supported Obama because of race.
Perfectly fine to be curious about this. We all wondered why Colin Powell jumped ship head-first, especially when it's an endorsement for what we all know has to be one of the biggest fraudulent presidential nominees in the history of this country.
Limbaugh: Gates is an "angry racist."
Gates IS an angry racist. How much more did that ranting idiot have to do to prove to the American people what he is?
Limbaugh called illegal immigrants an "invasive species."
They invade our country by, literally, the daily truckloads, and it hurts our country, and the left side of the political spectrum appear to not be concerned about this, but would prefer to welcome illegals in.
Limbaugh says Democrats' interest in Darfur is securing black "voting bloc."
We all know how the Democrats have no shame when it comes to exploiting and sucking up to blacks and minorities solely for vote gain.
Limbaugh says that if "feminazis" had remembered to oppose "affirmative action for black guys ... they wouldn't face the situation they face today."
Sure, a bold statement, but again, affirmative action is seen by many as a horribly wrong and counter-productive measure in this country, and one that's made things worse over the decades since the civil rights days.
Obama "wants us to have the same health care and plan that he had in Kenya" and "wants to be the black FDR."
He's essentially giving his commentary on how he's the next FDR, only he's black (uh-duh… oh, sorry, half black) and he's looking to bring down our economy so he can prop up bigger government and make people more dependent on the government to "fix things". Racist??
As for the remaining seven, it's a mixed bag of his opinions with some stereotyping thrown in, but all of them valid when you disengage from being political correct. And like Blonde points out, the guy -- an entertainment and political opinion personality -- has been on the radio every day for 20 years, and all we have are six..…. SIX..….. questionable/controversial statements, and none of them revealing him to be racist by nature, at all.
....... My pleasure.
For someone that sees
October 14, 2009 - 17:14 ET by 24enakFor someone that sees himself as "colorblind" and doesn't "see Obama as black" but rather "the president of the United States" He sure does talk about Obama's race, and race in general an awful lot.
24
October 14, 2009 - 17:19 ET by MrShyI won't totally argue that. But still, he's being called racist and/or frequently racially insensitive, and when you really look at each statement, that rings pretty hollow.
"He sure does talk about
October 14, 2009 - 17:49 ET by ckc1227"He sure does talk about Obama's race, and race in general an awful lot"
You mean like pretty much everyone else in the media? He talks about Obama's race because that's what gets shoved down our throats on a daily basis.....that's the point.
Holla
October 15, 2009 - 02:48 ET by MeowMeowCouldn't have said it better, CKC.
Remember, liberals are allowed to bring up race anytime they please. If a conservative brings up race, they're racist.
And the ones who are constantly talking about race, injecting it into every scenario? Libs & MSM (same thing, really).
I listen to Rush almost daily, and I wouldn't sit around and do that if he spewed racist vitriol. You either get Rush or you don't.
So it's OK if a black journalist references the "magic negro" reference, but Rush can't? What kind of double-standard BS is that? Rush wouldn't have ever uttered it, I assure you, if Ehernstein hadn't written that article.
(Wonder if my signature below is racist....?)
"If al-Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they
better hurry, because Obama is beating them to it." -- Rush Limbaugh III
MrShy, but the language he
October 14, 2009 - 18:04 ET by balboaMrShy, but the language he uses and the way he addresses these issues is inflammatory. It's worded in such a way as to outrage the right to hate the left, and outrage the left to hate Limbaugh.
bal
October 14, 2009 - 18:10 ET by MrShy"MrShy, but the language he uses and the way he addresses these issues is inflammatory"
Nonsense. Not buying it. No matter how he "addresses" them, if he addresses them, period, he's inflammatory.
Read what ckc1227 so wisely points out, above, about how you and leftists feel the need to perpetually coddle certain races.
I don't "feel the need" to
October 14, 2009 - 20:08 ET by balboaI don't "feel the need" to coddle anyone. Rush could make the same points, but he chooses to do so in a way that separates everyone into two sides, despising the other.
Sometimes I wonder that too,
October 14, 2009 - 14:23 ET by WisdomSometimes I wonder that too, if maybe Rush is just playing to his predominantly white, rural audience. And that he just plays dumb like "oh that's controversial? i had nooo idea" even though he knows exactly what he is doing. Plus, he can afford to offend minorities and others because they don't make up his audience, so he can just entertain his core without worrying about being inclusive. But now he's seeing that when he attempts to cross over to the NFL audience, it's a whole different ball game.
Rural, my ass
October 14, 2009 - 14:27 ET by SickofLibsSounds racist to me.
SoL
October 14, 2009 - 19:32 ET by Free StinkerYep. "Rural" is code. ;-)
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
I don't think anyone needs
October 14, 2009 - 14:34 ET by nwahsI don't think anyone needs the context of what they say explained so what they say isn't considered racist, for so many things, unless that person is purposely stroking bigotry in an opportunistic fashion. Thats a lot of stuff to have to be nuanced and put in context. No one is that bumbling with words unless its intentional.
As you said, a mainstream audience will see through that easily. His hardcore fans either see through it and like it, or believe the con.
***FALSE***
October 14, 2009 - 15:19 ET by Corny_McPooFor example, consider the following exchange:
Man 1: My wife is really angry at me.
Man 2: Why's that?
Man 1: She mistakenly claims I said, "Women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen."
Man 3: (Entering room as "Women should be.." comment begins) I can't believe you just said that!
Man 1: But...but...
Man 3: You are quite simply the most vile, sexist man ever! (Storms out)
Man 1: Oh boy...
Context is critical to any comment's true meaning. Otherwise, every "journalist" or commentator who has chimed in on what Rush "said" is guilty of racism. See? Isn't that silly?
Signed, Corny McPoo
Do Something Amazing!
Seriously, wisdom?
October 15, 2009 - 02:58 ET by MeowMeow....
Seriously, wisdom?
October 15, 2009 - 02:56 ET by MeowMeow"his predominantly white, rural audience"
Do you have any stats to prove that, or is that just wild lib speculation on your part?
My grandmother immigrated here from eastern Europe. I was the first person in my entire family to graduate from college. I went to grad school on the east coast and have a Master's degree in English. I live in the biggest city in Texas, right in downtown. I drive a car that gets 30 MPG. I use the curly-cue lightbulbs and recycle for shits & giggles. I don't own a gun. Oh, and I'm a female. I also listen to Rush everyday and think he is absolutely right most of the time. Kinda shoots a hole in your "his predominantly white, rural audience" theory, doesn't it?
"If al-Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they
better hurry, because Obama is beating them to it." -- Rush Limbaugh III
Hey Wisdom...
October 14, 2009 - 14:08 ET by kengieYou are asking these people to read and that is way too much for them to do to find truth. I read it and Rusty reeks of racially charged remarks.
"Live long and prosper" ~ Peace Prize winner, our President Obama
You're a fine one to talk about "reeking"
October 14, 2009 - 14:15 ET by BlondeWith what you do to these boards on a daily basis.
I hope he fails, too.
Cut the crap, Kengie
October 14, 2009 - 14:22 ET by SickofLibsPlease, everyone knows where you go to "find the truth", then cut-n-paste it here. You've been called on it numerous times.
Try posting an original thought for once.
ps: congratulations on correcting your tagline of five minutes ago "Live long and prosprer" . Did an associate troll PM you on that, or did you notice it all on your own?
Cite please
October 14, 2009 - 12:44 ET by BlondeBecause you are not allowed to sling "all of the racially offensive things Rush has said" as an accepted fact. It's liberal lies, which, as you should well know by now (unless you are as obtuse as you appear to be) won't fly.
We need a better class of troll, here. ©
I hope he fails, too.
.
October 14, 2009 - 13:11 ET by MeowMeowYeah, 24, can you cite anything specific that can be substantiated with hard facts that Rush has said that's racially offensive?
I listen to Rush almost daily, and I can assure you, if I thought he really had racist feelings, I wouldn't give him the time of day, little less three hours a day. Rush just isn't afraid to call anyone out on their BS, regardless of race or gender or whatever. That's so rare nowadays that it's easy to call it racist or sexist. Rush is neither. A lot of what he says is said in jest, or is tongue in cheek, and you'd have to listen to him to know that. I suspect you don't.
"If al-Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they
better hurry, because Obama is beating them to it." -- Rush Limbaugh III
kane, you have difficulty
October 14, 2009 - 14:05 ET by HockeyKidkane, you have difficulty discerning the difference between commenting on racial issues and making racially charged statements.
I take it back. Media Matters has the above problem. You have difficulty thinking for yourself. As further evidence, I cite your screen name.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
You mean politically
October 15, 2009 - 15:24 ET by humanzeeYou mean politically incorrect. Is anyone else tired of this BS? If you don't kiss black liberal ass or swallow the bulls**t that comes out of their mouth, you are now a racist.
He called out the media on their affirmative action political correctness when dealing with McNabb.
Boohoo, don't hurt the feelings of a 6'5 300 pound black football player! They are soooo sensitive and criticizing him will 'cause little 5 year old black kids to jump off windows or turn to crack 'cause someone said their hero sucks.
It's the same deal with Obama and the MSM. Don't criticize Obama because "black people are sensitive." On yeah, Obama's ego is made of glass too. It's like screwing with whales. One bad sound and they'll all commit mass suicide by beaching themselves. See, black people are just like whales. Their ear drums are very sensitive. Sounds can hurt them, causing them to become disoriented and beach themselves.
Pssst....
October 14, 2009 - 17:37 ET by ckc1227"The NFL doesn't want to bring controversy to the league, they discourage controversy"
Michael Vick says "hi".
CKC...
October 15, 2009 - 03:00 ET by MeowMeowPerfect. You might just be brilliant!
"If al-Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they
better hurry, because Obama is beating them to it." -- Rush Limbaugh III
There's another one
October 14, 2009 - 13:11 ET by cajun2Another one of those hand-me-down trolls. Poor quality substitutes. pauvre bete
DUMP RUSH but...
October 14, 2009 - 13:15 ET by kengie...court that sleazy Pop singer....that really say's it all, Rusty is lower than a sleasz ball. Finally someone with balls to speak the truth! Good write mate!
"Live long and prosprer" ~ Peace Prize winner Obama
Sheesh
October 14, 2009 - 13:35 ET by BlondeWe need a better class of troll, here. ©
I hope he fails, too.
Keep working on that
October 14, 2009 - 14:07 ET by HockeyKidKeep working on that English, kengie. You might get it some day.
And you might work on sourcing your quotes a bit more accurately, too.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Strangely enough, I find myself adapting to Kenglish
October 14, 2009 - 14:30 ET by SickofLibsDoesn't keep me from laughing my ass off, though.
Rush made an interesting
October 14, 2009 - 13:27 ET by mattmRush made an interesting comment, that all this opposition is nothing more than attempt to keep a prominent conservative out of the mainstream.
The idea is that since most of the opposition to conservatives is based on false charges of bigotry, once people see that those charges are false, the people making the charges will lose credibility and conservatism will gain credibility.
The Left has always feared the "legitimization" of the Right, and Rush owning an NFL team and proving to be none of what his hate-filled critics charge would hurt their demonization efforts against conservativism in general. Then, they'd have to argue the merits of issues, rather than just win by character assassination.
Yea I heard that
October 14, 2009 - 13:47 ET by nwahsI heard a little bit of that this morning. The NFL's rebuke of him, was an attack on conservatives - not his racial satire.
I don't believe that. I think it was a rebuke of him and the fact they see his satire as feeding into bigotry.
You could be right about
October 14, 2009 - 15:44 ET by mattmYou could be right about why the NFL "rebuked" him, but I think they're just PC cowards...
But I do believe that there is the other component coming from the ones actually making the accusations and the fabricated or out-of-context quotes.
The left has perfected the technique of debate-avoidance through character assassination. The Limbaugh thing is just the latest and most obvious example of it.
One problem...
October 14, 2009 - 17:30 ET by ckc1227I doubt a single one of them has actually listened to his satire. They may as well say they don't approve of your molesting of children.
I must've missed something,
October 14, 2009 - 13:34 ET by WisdomI must've missed something, but what makes the "sleazy pop diva" have a "questionable background"? My niece is a fan but I hadn't heard anything about "questionable" stuff in her background, so I was curious. But then you didn't provide any information. I've never heard of Fergie being "controversial" until now.
I think because she has used
October 14, 2009 - 13:48 ET by nwahsI think because she has used illegal drugs in the past.
Oh wait...
Obama's cocaine and pot use
October 14, 2009 - 14:11 ET by SickofLibsObama's cocaine and pot use are not the issue.
I've actually heard some
October 14, 2009 - 13:57 ET by ConservativeMissourianI've actually heard some stuff about her from when she was younger, getting into drugs, etc. It's not the end all be all, but she is outspoken just like Rush - they should be treated similarly.
She's not controversial
October 14, 2009 - 14:04 ET by katainkentShe's not controversial controversial. There's a difference.
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
Maybe her telling the Daily
October 14, 2009 - 14:12 ET by HockeyKidMaybe her telling the Daily Mirror "I won't say how many men I've had sex with, but I am a very sexual person" has something to do with it.
She's also admitted to going on quite a drug spree upon attaining her majority.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
I don't think the NFL is
October 14, 2009 - 14:40 ET by nwahsI don't think the NFL is rebuking Rush for his pain killer addiction or his sexcapades to the Dominican Republic. I think they're rebuking him for 20 years of questionable racial satire that they find extremely divisive.
But relax. Rush still has a full time job dividing the GOP.
And
October 14, 2009 - 15:17 ET by UpNorthFergie can always help "supplement" the salaries of the Olphins? I doubt that NFL Security has even bothered to do any kind of vetting yet. They should, but they won't. She could admit to being a closet Rush L. fan, and they'd still let her in.
This just in, Bob Irsay, Colts owner, doesn't think Limbaugh should be an owner. The same guy who told Baltimoreans that he was committed to the " dedication
to bring winning football back to our fans.
We want our team to match the standards" of the new practice facility/offices he'd built. He then snuck the teams' belongings out of the building, and city, in 12 moving vans in the middle of the night. Might his actions be considered racist? After all, Baltimore, even in 1984, was a majority black city. Maybe Irsay isn't fit to be an owner?
Actually
October 14, 2009 - 17:16 ET by nwahsJim Irsay, Colts owner, son of Bob Irsay (dead and former Colts owner). But don't let a fact or two get in the way of a good rant.
oops,
October 15, 2009 - 19:52 ET by UpNorthmy bad, backward. Sorry for the wrong fact and the "good rant".
20 years of questionable
October 14, 2009 - 15:55 ET by mattm20 years of questionable racial satire???
Like SNL's Garrit Morris - "I'm gonna git me a shotgun and kill all de whities I see..." Or Chris Rock, David Chappelle or the tons of other "comedians" who engage in satire, or the pundits who actually do make bigoted comments? The word is "Double-Standard".
This is just the continuation of a 50 year old smear campaign by a bunch of hate-filled bigoted liberal hypocrites who have no legitimate arguments about anything.
Well I guess
October 14, 2009 - 16:57 ET by nwahsRush's satire either wasn't funny or not perceived to be satire.
Says you.
October 14, 2009 - 18:10 ET by BlondeI hope he fails, too.
I perceived
October 15, 2009 - 03:01 ET by MeowMeowit to be satire. I can always pick out Rush's satire, mainly because I, you know, listen to his show every day and get his schtick.
"If al-Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they
better hurry, because Obama is beating them to it." -- Rush Limbaugh III
"But relax. Rush still has
October 14, 2009 - 17:21 ET by ckc1227"But relax. Rush still has a full time job dividing the GOP."
Yes....between Democrats(like you) and non-Democrats.
You lefty's have ears, but
October 14, 2009 - 15:17 ET by ConservativeRexYou lefty's have ears, but you don't hear. You don't understand Rush because you refuse to see his point. Rush puts into words what you LEFTYS do all day, all year long! He holds a mirror up to you and you can not stand it. The 'Magic Negro' song was written and put in the LA freaking Times by a black guy.
None of us at NB can help it that the left perpetrates to this day the racial bigotry that Dems in this country invented. Rush points this out every day. The only thing that's racially insensitive is that Rush brings out how the Left has always treated racial topics. You'll never get it, because you don't want to.
Si Vis Palem, Para Bellum
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October 14, 2009 - 16:57 ET by serfer62Its not up to the NFL, basically its in escrow and the highest bidder gets the team.
If he gets it I hope he fires them all and rehires only free agents.
No its a franchise
October 14, 2009 - 17:01 ET by nwahsNo, its a franchise and the owner has to be approved by the NFL.
"Sleazy"?
October 14, 2009 - 17:22 ET by balboa"Sleazy"?
Another sports owner
October 14, 2009 - 17:23 ET by JesseJacksonIVAnother sports owner explains this the best:
http://blogmaverick....
Whether you agree with Rush or not, he has said a lot controversial things. The NFL isn't going to to take a chance on waht he may say next month, year or whenever.
Rappers and National Barack Association
October 14, 2009 - 17:51 ET by azwildcatsWhy are rappers(like JayZ) allowed to own NBA teams then?
This past season I was pretty much through with that league. Beside my Kings sucking, the league became another mouthpiece for the Obama campaign. What sickens me even more about it is that it was clearly about race; where were these guys for Kerry in 2004? If a "cool" guy like LeBron was saying vote for Obama, wouldn't younger voters get sucked in as well. In addition the refereeing is god awful(remember 2002?), but that's another story. I wonder if Wayne Gretzky and Sidney Crosby endorsed McCain/Palin, what type of coverage the NHL would've gotten?
azwildcats
October 14, 2009 - 18:05 ET by MrShy"What sickens me even more about it is that it was clearly about race; where were these guys for Kerry in 2004?"
Nowhere. They are just waiting for a guy of their color to run for president -- no matter who (except, of course, a Republican.) But that's not racism.
"I wonder if Wayne Gretzky and Sidney Crosby endorsed McCain/Palin, what type of coverage the NHL would've gotten?"
White, racist NHL.
Two excellent points!
In addition
October 14, 2009 - 22:42 ET by azwildcatsOne problem I also have the NBA(though its not the only league) is the automatic fines for criticizing refs. Take two examples from last year:
Reggie Theus ex-Kings coach gets fined 25K for saying it was "ridiculous" the Pistons got way more free throws then the Kings did.
Phil Jackson gets fined 15K for saying during an in-game interview that there have been some "bogus" calls on his team.
I understand if they swore or launched personal attacks against the refs, but if they were just pointing out their opinions, then they shouldn't be fined. (The league kind of reminds you of Obama, can't take one ounce of criticism)
Don't forget the Rams' previous owner
October 14, 2009 - 18:47 ET by Captain KirockHey Ken, don't forget the Rams' previous owner, go-go dancer turned trophy wife Georgia Frontiere.
Carrol Rosenbloom drowned under suspicious circumstances in 1979, while Georgia watched from the shore. If you recall, PBS' Frontline (in its very first episode) alleged that Rosenbloom was killed by mafia hit-men. At the time, there were allegations that Georgia did it to steal Rosenbloom's fortune (including the Rams) from his children.
Oh yeah, Georgia's first husband after Rosenbloom, Dominic Frontiere, is a convicted felon.
CK... I remember
October 14, 2009 - 18:56 ET by bigtimerCK...
I remember well....she more than torked me off long ago and far away....despicable woman...I was furious when she sold the team as well as should have been behind bars...in my opinion.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Please!
October 14, 2009 - 18:59 ET by Sergeant ROCKAs though murder rises to the level of 'racial insensitivity'? Pffttbb!
Probably a democRAT anyway.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
The NFL
October 15, 2009 - 09:21 ET by jessieHThe NFL is becoming as sleasy as the federal govt. Getting into politics is a long walk on a short pier. The Rams suck, and so does the govt. Who would want a team that always looses? It doesn't matter how corrupt & sleasy you are, as long as you're a liberal democrat.
Not all voices are raised in opposition to Rush
October 15, 2009 - 09:52 ET by CO2MakerHere is an unusual commentary: A black ESPN writer dissing the Rush Dissers, not Rush.
Commentary: Don't blame Limbaugh for our faults - CNN.com
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http://snipurl.com/s...
Remind you of any other remark by a famous person? (Hint: Think of Bill Cosby at the NAACP meeting in 2004.)
Another defence from across the pond
October 15, 2009 - 10:38 ET by CO2MakerThe Rush Limbaugh media lynch mob – Telegraph Blogs
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http://snipurl.com/s...
The author makes this observation in the last paragraph: "What’s the term for those who are setting about “racist” Rush Limbaugh right now? Ironically, it seems to be “lynch mob”.