There's a side of America that scares Frenchmen, French Culture Minister Frédéric Mitterrand was quoted by Time magazine Paris-based writer Bruce Crumley, and it's the side of American determination that doesn't let a 32-year-old rape case die, even if the perpetrator is an elderly survivor of the Holocaust.
Seeking to explain the "cultural divide" that's as "wide as the Atlantic" between America and Europe, Crumley noted that Europeans are "shocked and dismayed that an internationally acclaimed artist" such as Roman Polanski "could be jailed for such an old offense."
Of course, at no point did Crumley cite any public opinion polls with empirical data to back up his argument about the U.S.-European cultural divide on pursuing fugitives who jump bail after drugging and anally raping 13-year-old girls.
No, instead, Crumley turned to an American author (and journalist) living in France to bolster his argument about European sentiment on Polanski:
Story Continues Below Ad ↓"The French view Polanski as an artist and celebrity and feel he deserves a different kind of treatment than ordinary people, which just isn't an option in the U.S.," says Ted Stanger, an author and longtime resident of France who has written extensively on the differing public views and attitudes across the Atlantic. "The French in particular, and Europeans in general, don't understand why it isn't possible for American officials to intervene and say, 'Hey, it's been over 30 years and things look a little different now. Let's just forget this thing.'"
Of course Crumley failed to mention Stanger is a journalist who has worked for Newsweek and UPI:
Stanger lives in Paris now, but he grew up in Ohio and after finishing his high school degree there spent four years at Princeton University where he earned a BA in English literature.
He began as a reporter for United Press International's Paris bureau and then worked for the Miami Herald, a Florida daily newspaper.
As of 1981, he became bureau chief for Newsweek magazine serving in four locations: Bonn, Rome, Jerusalem and finally Paris.
Could it be that the circles Stanger and Crumley run in -- the liberal intelligentsia in Paris -- are much like the liberal elite in Manhattan and Hollywood that have been echoing the same "leave Roman alone" gripe for years?
Nah!
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"The French view Polanski
September 28, 2009 - 15:02 ET by Scuba Dude"The French view Polanski as an artist and celebrity and feel he deserves a different kind of treatment than ordinary people"
This quote says it all. Elitist BS. I wonder how they would think if it was their daughter that he raped. What would they do? Shrug it off and offer him a canape?
He is scum and deserves to pay for the crime he commited.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Remember, the French
September 28, 2009 - 15:07 ET by Blonde....are fond of retreat and capitulation.
They are jealous of all things American, and can't handle the fact that we bailed them out numerous times (and I know we'll get the French ally during the American Revolution argument, to which I shall reply, in advance....THAT was in their own national interest at the time, no altruism involved).
They attempt to purge everything non-French from their culture, IIRC, they even have "language police". Face it, any country that would prosecute Bridget Bardot for hate speech (regarding animal abuse), is, by definition....koo koo.
I hope he fails, too.
You are correct. The
September 28, 2009 - 15:14 ET by HockeyKidYou are correct. The French are the standard-bearers of elitism. They do indeed attempt to keep the French language "pure".
And their involvement in the American Revolution was before their own revolution, before they reconfigured their country around socialism and institutional laziness (see "French work week").
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French work week
September 28, 2009 - 15:22 ET by BlondeIsn't that an Oxymoron?
Remember a few years back...there was a thread about the French paying women to stay home and have kids? Dummies.
I hope he fails, too.
Obama was Supposed to help us with the Europeans
September 28, 2009 - 16:50 ET by allanfI thought the Europeans were supposed to "like" us better once Obama was elected. What went wrong?
" Remember a few years
September 28, 2009 - 20:28 ET by MikeB" Remember a few years back...there was a thread about the French paying women to stay home and have kids?" The United States has had that same program for decades now. It's called "welfare".
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true
September 29, 2009 - 06:12 ET by jazz_fanKing Louis only supported us to bother the British and that debt was unable to be repaid before the "people" beheaded him. Polanski is an artist in the same way that Hitler was a craftsman, let's not count bodies but look at all the houses he painted. The girl said he intimidated her, molested her, then raped her in every way known, yet they think he's a good guy despite that. Like any child rapist I hope they put him in the general population at a very large prison so he can learn first-hand what he put that girl through.
Pitiful part is, French
September 28, 2009 - 20:26 ET by MikeBPitiful part is, French President Sarkozy has more intelligence and testicles than American pResident Obama when it comes to nuclear weapons in today's world. Sarkozy pwned Ear Leader big time on this issue before the Useless Nitwits.
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French Fries
September 28, 2009 - 20:22 ET by theaudacityDon't be ignorant (though it is too much to ask, sometimes and a reason I am no longer a member of the Republican party).
First of all, the French have a board in which new words are allowed or disallowed in order to keep the language pure. Probably because English has become bastardized (see: mainstream music, and athletes talk).
Second of all, do you really think the U.S. entered WWII without vested interest? Reread: history.
Third of all, don't be naive. Plenty of people the U.S. touts as being artists are let out of all jail. Does Michael Jackson ring a bell?
"France on Wednesday led a walkout of a dozen delegations, including the United States"
http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/25/sarkozy-mocks-obama-at-un-security-council-hello-big-media/
Appears the French currently have more balls than our government.
Igonant in what way?
September 28, 2009 - 21:42 ET by needleYou direct us not to be ignorant, so I will try to oblige.
Yes, the French have the Académie française (French Academy). So what? What does this have to do with anything in Ken’s post or Scuba Dude’s comment? By the way, the Académie française is one of the most conservative institutions on the face of the earth. I for one am glad that there is not a corresponding institute for English. If there were, English would not be the potent language that it is today, and such an institute would certainly have interfered with the process of English being the de facto lingua franca of the world today, something the French rue, in some cases to the point that drives them half crazy, to whom I say “c’est la vie.”
“Second of all, do you really think the U.S. entered WWII without vested interest? Reread: history.”
So again what is your point? The attack on Pearl Harbor and resistance to Nazism were of secondary importance? Just whose re-written history would you have one re-read? And again what does this have to do with anything in Ken’s post or Scuba Dude’s comment?
“Third of all, don't be naive. Plenty of people the U.S. touts as being artists are let out of all jail. Does Michael Jackson ring a bell?”
So yet again what is your point? Are you suggesting that we American are more like Europeans than we realize? Speak for yourself. To the extent that American artists and celebrities obtain a different kind of treatment than ordinary people, do you approve of that? Like the French in particular, and Europeans in general? And by the way, do you proudly hold sophisticated post-modern values and logic that somehow extends the “exceptionalism” obtained by artists and celebrities – and their lawyers – to include drugging and anally raping 13-year-old girls?
And please, we expect quite reasonably a response that is not ignorant.
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needle
September 29, 2009 - 08:37 ET by BlondeThe (ahem, ignorant) n00b was responding to my post, only he didn't quite get that right, did he? Kind of funny in an odd sort of way.
I suspect we have yet another drive-by seminar poster on our hands, here....it's been hours and hours and no reply to your very eloquent response, thanks, you saved me alot of time! :)
I hope he fails, too.
trials
September 29, 2009 - 08:53 ET by realpatriotRegardless of who is to blame, at least we did have trials and the evidence was heard in MJ's case, OJ's, and also Robert Blake. Some get away with their crimes. But what had they done since the trials, their careers were pretty much ruined. MJ was a punch line, OJ was in hiding, Robert Blake I have no idea. Now on the other side of the coin, Phil Spector (convicted in prison), Martha Stewart, (served her time), Mike Tyson, even Wynona Ryder, and a lot more. So just to say vaguely that Americans let famous people off the hook, is a huge exaggeration.
Do these morons have daughters?
September 28, 2009 - 15:09 ET by FuzzlenutterAnd if so, I wonder how they would feel if one of them were drugged and then anally raped at the age of 13.
Don't answer that. It was obviously rhetorical...
The truly scary part is
September 28, 2009 - 15:16 ET by HockeyKidThe truly scary part is what the answer to that might actually be...ick.
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Do these morons have daughters?
September 28, 2009 - 22:10 ET by needleNot if they stick to their sodomy, which could help to explain France's decreasing population.
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Fuzzle, they probably aborted the little unviable cell masses
September 28, 2009 - 22:14 ET by R D HelmAfter all, we know how inconvenient those can be.
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"The French view Polanski
September 28, 2009 - 15:14 ET by Radical1979"The French view Polanski as an artist and celebrity and feel he deserves a different kind of treatment than ordinary people"
This is why I love the U.S.A. Our laws don't provide for a different kind of treatment. Personally, if anything, I think our artists and celebrities should be held to a higher standard due to their advantages and given harsher sentences.
Do the French really think that after a certain length of time something is no longer a crime? Can we put German Occupation back in then?
Well, it's been over eight
September 28, 2009 - 15:20 ET by BKeyserWell, it's been over eight years now, I wonder how the french feel about bin Laden...
The French are decadent.
September 28, 2009 - 15:22 ET by Chris NormanThe French are decadent. They have traded in their morals for that weary "sophistication". Time et al would like us to have that "attribute".
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
The irony? If he would have
September 28, 2009 - 15:39 ET by gopcongressThe irony? If he would have gone to prison even with a rejection of his original plea agreement (which was, frankly a no brainer), then he would have gone for 2, maybe 3 years; at that time celebrities were sent to a minimum security prison. He would have probably been able to avoid the sex offender registry.
By fleeing the judgement, he will most probably have to be retried under the CURRENT sentencing guidelines, most notably the Jessica's Law sentencing mandate that will put him in prison for a MINIMUM of 25 years, probably making it a life sentence at his advanced age. If he should get out, he will then have to be put on the registry which will have him restricted to where he can live. Finally, the International Megan's Law bill will be passed by then, which will prohibit Polanski (and any other registered sex offender) from leaving the country.
Perhaps they should put him in the same cell as Charles Manson where they can discuss the nuances of a mutual 'acquaintence', Sharon Tate.
EDIT: I have it on good authority from the LA District Attorney's office (213-974-3512) that they would rather retry the entire case, as is the right of the state when a convicted individual absconds from his sentencing. Jessica's Law WILL come into play, and I have a feeling that there will be no plea deal. Polanskin knows this and will be fighting for his life; I hope the Swiss do not back off.
ONE MORE POINT OF IRONY:
Poland has just voted (in their lower house) to castrate sex offenders on a FIRST offense once they leave prison. Now they are complaining about Polanski being extradited on a similar charge that would have him castrated if he commited the offense in Poland today? What freakin' hypocrites...
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He won't be retried under
September 28, 2009 - 15:43 ET by eaglewingz08He won't be retried under the new guidelines as he plead guilty. He won't be sentenced under the new guidelines because he can't receive additional punishments that weren't in effect at the time of either his criminal conduct or at the time of his sentencing. He could and should be sentenced additionally for his thirty year abscounding from the law. If it were me, every day he was an outcast from the law would be a separate count and he should be sentenced consecutively on 30 years x365days/year counts.
It's also sad because every time the French appear to start to redeem themselves they just dig deeper into depravity. Extradicting and sentencing Polanski is important to show there is not one law for the rich and privileged and another for the no named hoi polloi.
Congrats to California, I didn't think Schwartenneggar had it in him, and to the Swiss as well.
The plea had been REJECTED...big difference...
September 28, 2009 - 15:54 ET by gopcongressYou stated:
"He won't be retried under the new guidelines as he plead guilty."
This is correct, to a point. BUT...his plea had been REJECTED, so the guilty plea was NOT part of the record. He fled pending the NEW agreement, and in fact had the judge recommended another, harsher sentence, then Polanski would have taken it to trial.
Your assumption is if the court had ACCEPTED the plea. THEN Polanski couldn't be retried because of an inherent agreement.
But Sandy (no last name) from the LA District Attorney's office was VERY CLEAR on that bit of information. By the way, it was NOT Arnold nor Moonbeam...er, Attorney General Jerry Brown...who advocated this move. While they talk tough with regard to sex offenders (who doesn't?), I don't think they would have extradited someone who Arnold himself calls "one of the most brilliant directors of our time." Arnold is a Hollywood lib through and through; don't forget that. I frankly think he's privately fuming over the extradiction.
It was a brilliant move by LADA Steve Cooley's office that initiated this move. Mostly, it is being done to strengthen his office's mission to fully implement Jessica's Law in Los Angeles that will effectively kick most of the convicted rapists out of the county, or return them to San Quentin where they belong.
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I don't think Arnold is a
September 28, 2009 - 16:59 ET by MaximusBraveheartI don't think Arnold is a bad as Clinton who appears to be an actual predator based on womens' accounts, but Arnold was quite a womanizer. I remember reading his book... then there is this prior news & it does not surprise me: http://news.bbc.co.u...
Arnold is cool & has done well... love Terminator. Being in CA does not likely help his moral judgement however!
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Let's be grateful
September 28, 2009 - 15:37 ET by slickwillie2001I'm so grateful that we have the sophisticated Europeans to instruct us on how to handle these things. What would we do without them?
They attempt to purge
September 28, 2009 - 15:39 ET by Lord-come-soon-pleaseThey attempt to purge everything non-French from their culture
There's that one nagging thing though that they somehow cannot "purge". It's that nice grassy plot of land in Normandy where 9,800 American soldiers are buried.
Or that U.S. flag flying
September 28, 2009 - 23:20 ET by Lord ElicaniOr that U.S. flag flying over the grave of Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de La Fayette. Or the soil from Bunker Hill that lies over his body.
"We can go from boom to bust
From dreams to a bowl of dust
We can fall from rockets' red glare
Down to 'Brother, can you spare...'"
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I don't much care what the frogs think about anything
September 28, 2009 - 16:20 ET by R D Helm-Dave
The election of 2010 will be our last chance to save our republic. -Neal Boortz
Same here Dave. 'Doubling
September 28, 2009 - 16:26 ET by bigtimerSame here Dave.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Me too!
September 28, 2009 - 16:31 ET by ParagrouperWe should form a club.
Betcha we would have a large membership.
"Beware the fury of the patient man." - John Dryden
Pg... Bet we would too!
September 28, 2009 - 16:33 ET by bigtimerPg...
Bet we would too! ;-)
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But Dave. What about
September 28, 2009 - 16:37 ET by QueenMumBut Dave. What about Kermit?
When green is all there is to be, it
can make you wonder why, but why wonder. I'm green and it'll do fine,
it's beautiful, and I think it's what I want to be. -Kermit the Frog
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
QM... Lol...come on
September 28, 2009 - 16:47 ET by bigtimerQM...
Lol...come on ...Kermit doesn't count...neither do the Budweiser Frogs...where-ever they are now.
Just had to throw that in there.
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I found 'em. Asked 'em
September 28, 2009 - 23:21 ET by Lord ElicaniI found 'em. Asked 'em about their situation, they told me "Re." "Ty." "Erd."
"We can go from boom to bust
From dreams to a bowl of dust
We can fall from rockets' red glare
Down to 'Brother, can you spare...'"
- Rush, "Between the Wheels"
Grace Under Pressure
September 28, 2009 - 23:41 ET by Captain KirockGreat quote LE. Great album. That takes me back.
They played it live when I
September 29, 2009 - 23:35 ET by Lord ElicaniThey played it live when I saw them last year. Best birthday present I've gotten in my 21 years of life.
"We can go from boom to bust
From dreams to a bowl of dust
We can fall from rockets' red glare
Down to 'Brother, can you spare...'"
- Rush, "Between the Wheels"
Great Shows
September 30, 2009 - 02:12 ET by Captain KirockI've seen them live 4 or 5 times, mainly in the mid 80s. They are awesome live. Exit Stage Left remains one of the best live cds ever.
So do you have a favorite
September 30, 2009 - 21:00 ET by Lord ElicaniSo do you have a favorite song or album?
I can never pick a single song - it changes with my mood - but I love Moving Pictures.
"We can go from boom to bust
From dreams to a bowl of dust
We can fall from rockets' red glare
Down to 'Brother, can you spare...'"
- Rush, "Between the Wheels"
Hard to say
October 1, 2009 - 02:06 ET by Captain KirockFreewill is probably my favorite song. Limelight and The Pass are also favorites. My favorite album is either Signals or Grace Under Pressure. Great band.
Ahem...
September 28, 2009 - 17:41 ET by m4ster chiefBeing a little brown is apparently okay, too.
(Sorry.)
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QM,
September 28, 2009 - 22:16 ET by R D HelmLOL-Should Kermit move to France, I won't care what he thinks, either.
-Dave
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seems about right
September 28, 2009 - 16:27 ET by thewookfrance is outraged because a criminal is brought to justice? they deserve their crime and violence in outer paris.
This is the same France
September 28, 2009 - 16:29 ET by ReaverThis is the same France that harbored a self confessed sex offender for over thirty years, they don’t exactly have the moral high ground in this argument.
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"and it's the side of
September 28, 2009 - 16:36 ET by chessplayer"and it's the side of American determination that doesn't let a 32-year-old rape case die, even if the perpetrator is an elderly survivor of the Holocaust."
So the "reasoning" is that if a person is a Holocaust survivor, they should be permitted to rape children without being punished.
The Real Outrage
September 28, 2009 - 16:36 ET by justbob223The real outrage here is that there are those who think some people deserve "a different kind of treatment than ordinary people." I guess we serfs need to remember our place and understand that our lives are just not as valuable as those of our betters. Personally, I think that "the side of American determination that doesn't let a 32-year-old rape
case die, even if the perpetrator is an elderly survivor of the
Holocaust" is a matter of which Americans should be proud. No one should be above the law, no matter what his life experience or station in society. The abandoment of that principle is a sure sign of a decayed society.
Megadittos - you're a great American!
September 28, 2009 - 18:26 ET by pbanks7Decayed and depraved.
MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe, then confirming it with a poll.
Statutory vs. Forced....
September 28, 2009 - 16:39 ET by trak65I read that the acts occurred despite the victim voicing her objections. This is a critical detail that is being omitted from most accounts, which refer only to "illegal sex" or even just "seduction." Polanski's support would be much less pronounced if the non-consensual aspect were clear. The age of consent is not universally agreed upon....even within the U.S. it can vary state-by-state and has changed somewhat over time.
What about the drugs? I bet
September 28, 2009 - 18:33 ET by pbanks7What about the drugs? I bet (wouldn't know!) it's easier to consent to lots of things for a high 13 year old. Gimme a break. Even if it was consensual, it's still statutory rape (if it wasn't consensual, it would be child molestation - sodomy on a minor), and contributing to the deliquency of a minor. If you don't know any of the above is wrong, you deserve to be in jail, for the protection of society.
MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe, then confirming it with a poll.
PB, go and reread
September 28, 2009 - 20:44 ET by MikeBPB, go and reread trak65's comment. "...the acts occurred despite the victim voicing her objections." In other words, it was not consensual, and was forcible rape at the very least. Indeed, it could have been forcible rape, forcible oral sodomy, and forcible anal sodomy on a minor. I believe that trak knows very well Polanski's actions were wrong : "Polanski's support would be much less pronounced if the non-consensual aspect were clear." Trak is saying that it is the Dinosaur Commie Media is hiding the non-consenusality of the crime.
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trak the agent of consent
September 28, 2009 - 20:50 ET by Radical1979trak the agent of consent crap is just that. She was 13, he was in his 40's. It doesn't matter what she agreed to. She could sign a contract and it wouldn't be valid because SHE WAS TO YOUNG. Age of consent is also based on the difference in ages, which was great in this case. He's just a piece of scum who still doesn't acknowledge that what he did was wrong.
Rad-man...
September 28, 2009 - 22:50 ET by trak65I agree. My point is only that public opinion is influenced by biased media reports. Some cultures/countries have different laws and mores as to the age of consent; most condemn forcible rape, which apparently is what happened. Because Polanski is beloved by the Lefties, the Lefty press is running a lot of interference for him by downplaying or omitting the non-consensuality.
"The French view Polanski
September 28, 2009 - 16:39 ET by chessplayer"The French view Polanski as an artist and celebrity and feel he deserves a different kind of treatment than ordinary people"
"This quote says it all. Elitist BS. I wonder how they would think if it was their daughter that he raped. What would they do? Shrug it off and offer him a canape?"
They would probably brag about it and congratulate him. After all, he is a celeb.
Phrase of the day
September 28, 2009 - 16:47 ET by Paragrouperen Francais...Roman Polanski, un vieux harceleur d'enfant sale!
"Beware the fury of the patient man." - John Dryden
Ironic twist department
September 28, 2009 - 16:55 ET by treehoodPoland is also quite upset over this event, and may approach Obama for a complete pardon but I just read that Poland now requires pedophiles (molesting a child under 15 years old) to be chemically castrated after release from prison. I wonder what France decrees as a proper punishment for similar crimes?
As though the French, who
September 28, 2009 - 17:06 ET by samhermanmdAs though the French, who have yet to adapt the concept of "innocent before being proven guilty" to their judicial system, have any right or place criticizing US justice. The French sense of smug superiority is out of control, to the point of being a national sociopathy.
Isn't this why it's called "French?"
September 28, 2009 - 17:35 ET by m4ster chiefAs a young, innocent sailor a long time ago, I would often hear older guys talk about doing it "French." I always thought they meant French kissing (and wondered why it seemed such a big deal to them.)
But then I learned that doing it "French" actually meant anal sex, and everyone wearing an American uniform knew it but me. So why do we wonder at the French elite being dismayed over one of their own being arrested for doing "French" with a thirteen year-old girl? They probably think it didn't really hurt her...she's still alive, right?
So, according to contemporary morals in France, a gentleman's evening out would include escargot in garlic butter, a nice crusty loaf of bread, a bottle of fine wine, and "French" with a thirteen year-old girl (or boy.)
Haven't heard Obama's comments on this; I wonder if he thinks the Swiss police are just being "stupid?"
m4ster: Perhaps a champagne
September 28, 2009 - 18:33 ET by QueenMumm4ster: Perhaps a champagne summit is next on the agenda.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
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~500 years ago
September 28, 2009 - 19:12 ET by choselife3xThe French referred to it as the "Italian way". And punished it with burning at the stake. How the times do change.....
That high-pitched scream you hear is the lying leftist under my heel.
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chose - hmmm, sounds like a
September 28, 2009 - 19:17 ET by Radical1979chose - hmmm, sounds like a good sentence for Polanski.
Lets hope
September 28, 2009 - 18:04 ET by Joe CamelThat once (if) he gets to prison, that he is well received by the other inmates, and is allowed to have all the sex he can take...would be nice to see some of those urban legends take care of this man..Oops..they don't have drugs in prison..well dude, maybe you won't like it so much after all.
Polansky needs to feel what
September 28, 2009 - 18:23 ET by mostlymoderatePolansky needs to feel what it is liked to be sodomized, raped and taken advantage of by a guy named 'Ben Dover' in prison. What he did was ridiculously obscene and inexcusable. She was 13yo!! We are not talking about a girl that is 17 going on 18 and the boy is 19. 13yo!!
France's age of consent is
September 28, 2009 - 18:48 ET by samhermanmdFrance's age of consent is 15. So even by their depraved and amoral standards, Roman Polanski STILL committed a crime.
Letteman Rape "Joke"
September 28, 2009 - 18:54 ET by Free StinkerYou can see exactly why Liberals defended David Letterman after his "rape" joke.
Liberals have no problem with an actual rape, so why would they complaign about a joke?
France's age of consent is 15.
September 28, 2009 - 21:52 ET by needleAh, so 15 years is the age that demarks adulthood among the French? It figures.
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Seriously?
September 28, 2009 - 19:04 ET by CrashThe French would be outraged if their foie gras was over cooked. Or if there were too many "foreign" programs on the television. Outrage over Polanski is just their way of looking for attention and bitching about American's. Now if they really want to complain, the land of thieves (Chicago) has banned foie gras ... imagine the outrage over that if they host the olympics? France might declare war!
Now, here's why we're outraged:
Two weeks after Polanski plied her with Champagne and a Quaalude, Samantha Gailey appeared before an L.A. grand jury and recalled Polanski's predatory behavior in a Mulholland Canyon home owned by Jack Nicholson.
The teenager's troubling--and contemporaneous--account of her abuse at Polanski's hands begins with her posing twice for topless photos that the director said were for French Vogue. The girl then told prosecutors how Polanski directed her to, "Take off your underwear" and enter the Jacuzzi, where he photographed her naked. Soon, the director, who was then 43, joined her in the hot tub. He also wasn't wearing any clothes and, according to Gailey's testimony, wrapped his hands around the child's waist.
The girl testified that she left the Jacuzzi and entered a bedroom in Nicholson's home, where Polanski sat down beside her and kissed the teen, despite her demands that he "keep away." According to Gailey, Polanski then performed a sex act on her and later "started to have intercourse with me." At one point, according to Gailey's testimony, Polanski asked the 13-year-old if she was "on the pill," and "When did you last have your period?" Polanski then asked her, Gailey recalled, "Would you want me to go in through your back?" before he "put his penis in my butt." Asked why she did not more forcefully resist Polanski, the teenager told Deputy D.A. Roger Gunson, "Because I was afraid of him." From, http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html
Boy.. liberals..
September 28, 2009 - 20:56 ET by Sergeant ROCK... sure do like their sodomy. Or at least go out of their way to make excuses for it.
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George Mason
safe, legal, butt not rare
September 28, 2009 - 22:06 ET by needleFor Liberal abortions should be safe, legal, and “rare” (as opposed to “well done” I suppose). On the other hand, apparently for them sodomy should be safe, legal, and all the time.
- Relying upon the State Run Media for your information is like relying upon an embezzler for your portfolio management.
- I didn't leave the Republican Party; the Republican Party left me.
Well they do tend to makes
September 28, 2009 - 22:19 ET by Scuba DudeWell they do tend to makes A$$es of themselves now don't they Sarge?
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Don't forget...
September 28, 2009 - 22:23 ET by gitarfanThe French are the same people that kept Ira Einhorn from facing justice in PA for years. Are all the French wannabe misogynist sex offenders or killers?
'Cause I'm from Hollywood!
September 28, 2009 - 23:47 ET by Captain KirockLooks to me like Roman Polanski is using the Andy Kaufman Defense:
"'Cause I'm from Hollywood damn it!"
Hey, France! This is a
September 29, 2009 - 02:44 ET by RR GOPHey, France! This is a child rapist we're talking about...not Jean Valjean stealing a loaf of bread.
Wise up for heaven's sake.
The ghosts of their ancestors who died at Valmy and in other battles of the Revolution must look upon their modern day progeny with disgust.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.