Republicans, particularly those who are the biggest fans of Gov. Sarah Palin, are stuck in the vestiges of the 1984 "white-bread fantasy" of Reagan's "Morning in America," huffs Time magazine's Joe Klein in a July 6 Swampland blog post on "Sarah Palin's America":
All this talk about Sarah Palin's constituency being "real Americans" raises the question, yet again, of who the unreal Americans are. Last September, when the Governor burst upon the scene like a head-on collision, I wrote that Palin's America--white folks, small towns, traditional values--was a Republican fantasy, a vestige of Ronald Reagan's "Morning in America" hornswoggle in the 1980s. (This fantasy was reinforced by John McCain's fetishizing of Joe the Unlicensed Plumber.)
Real America is much different from, and more interesting than, that white-bread fantasy, a problem the Republican Party--the party of immigrant bashing--will be wrestling with for the immediate future.
Klein conveniently omitted that 2008 presidential nominee Sen. John McCain was hardly an immigrant basher, heavily criticized by conservatives in the GOP for his push for amnesty for illegal immigrants. What's more, it was President Reagan who signed the last amnesty bill in 1986, another inconvenient fact that cuts against Klein suggesting Reagan was a quasi-racist xenophobe.
As if to bolster his own cosmopolitan credentials with which to better slam Gov. Palin as provincial, Klein casually dropped a reference to a party he recently attended in the Islamic Republic of Iran:
Story Continues Below Ad ↓[I]t brings to mind a conversation I overheard, and can't get out of my mind, between two educated Iranians at a North Tehran party last month. Both had attended university in the U.S. One had recently returned from the States, the other hadn't been back here in 15 years. "You wouldn't recognize the place," the recent returnee said. "They don't have any Americans left."
He was joking, of course. But the fact is, America--Barack Obama's America--is a different, more exhilarating, sophisticated and diverse place from the Reagan fantasy. Sarah Palin's political future will be crippled by her inability to speak to that America, as will the Republican Party's, so long as it scorns diversity and "cosmopolitan" sensibilities--as Rudy Guiliani, of all people, did at the GOP Convention last summer. The attempts to plaster over this glaring deficiency by putting people like Michael Steele and Bobby Jindal front and center are, to coin a phrase, like putting lipstick on a pig.
So let's get this straight. After assailing the GOP as a party that "scorns diversity" Klein had the chutzpah to, well, scorn as tokens the African-American chairman of the national GOP and the Indian-American governor of the state of Louisiana.
Doesn't that sound like an altogether condescending and racist allegation coming from someone praising President Obama's America of 2009 as "exhilirating, sophisticated, and diverse"?
—Ken Shepherd is Managing Editor of NewsBusters
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I guess it was also a
July 7, 2009 - 11:39 ET by Tom PaineI guess it was also a "fantasy" that Ronald Reagan won 2 landslide victories with his "unrealistic" view of America.
BINGO!
July 7, 2009 - 17:04 ET by farstar99Klein is being a good little socialist minion.
Following Ayers, Obama and Alinsky to the letter.
They have to attack and destroy anything related to past Republican successes to destroy any hope of resurgence, especially now that Obama and the Democrats are losing states like Ohio...Ohio of the Kool-aid Hangover, that is.
Only with Reagan - and this is what they'll never understand- it will BACKFIRE.
It already is, actually.
My hopelessly Democrat relatives are incensed by the anti-Reagan sentiments being spread around by these losers.
Remember this: Joe Klein is the short, bald CFR loser who LIED REPEATEDLY about being the author of Primary Colors.
He even committed character assassination to try to cover it up.
Joe Klein is a LIAR.
Joe Klein
July 8, 2009 - 06:27 ET by ApodicticIs like every other feckless liberal media cricket that stridulates in the hope of becoming part of the totalitarian fascist oligarchy. But, they should read their history because they will be the first ones lined up against a wall or shipped off to a gulag. Fascist rulers understand that those capable of bringing one to power are also capable of subverting that power.
....because only lefties,
July 7, 2009 - 11:49 ET by mattm....because only lefties, with their false hope and their change (which is ALWAYS for the worse), can be optimistic...
What America-Hating bigots like Klein ignore is that Reagan was talking about human freedom, not about some socio-economic idealism.
But these self-righteous, arrogant egomaniacs on the left can't bring themselves to acknowlegde the intellect of those they oppose - hence the ridicule and insults that constantly spew forth out of their vile and corrupted mouths.
Liberals hate freedom, and thus, they hated Reagan.
Klein is partly right in one sense: it's no longer morning in America. With the fascists running this country into the toilet, I'd say it's about 11:59 p.m.
A Mink Button
July 7, 2009 - 12:29 ET by allanfThe left offers nothing but shared misery. No mink coats, a mink button for all.
The end of "Time" approaches....
July 7, 2009 - 11:46 ET by wnaegele...and it can't be soon enough...
Time is still circulating
July 7, 2009 - 11:56 ET by Another Dead KennedyTime is still circulating over 3 million issues each week. I don't think they're anywhere close to being out of business, and even if the magazine folds, they'll do what every other newspaper/magazine does - become a web only resource.
Im sure the brain dead will
July 7, 2009 - 12:12 ET by Dan The Man 2Im sure the brain dead will still subscribe to it. I imagine most of the subs are doctor offices and the like and of course people like you.
Oh, that was so sweet of
July 7, 2009 - 12:24 ET by Another Dead KennedyOh, that was so sweet of you. No, I don't subscribe to Time, so apparently you don't know as much as you think.
^
July 7, 2009 - 12:35 ET by jacktheripper"I LOVE DEAD KENNEDY'S"
Cares
July 7, 2009 - 13:24 ET by cvgbuckeyeNo one really cares what you think!
Apparently you care enough
July 7, 2009 - 13:41 ET by Another Dead KennedyApparently you care enough to comment.
True Love
July 7, 2009 - 15:09 ET by UtherpendThen that must mean the news media LOVES Sarah Palin since they can't go a single day with mentioning her name or commenting about her. Right?
"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."
Yes, exactly.
July 7, 2009 - 16:24 ET by Another Dead KennedyYes, exactly.
3 million issues a week -
July 7, 2009 - 17:19 ET by TruthMonger3 million issues a week - 2.5 million for doc offices and public libraries - that's right guys - we all pay for millions of these subversive communist rags every week
Palin/Prejean 2012
In that case...
July 7, 2009 - 17:53 ET by Another Dead KennedyIsn't that even more alarming? If the magazine was only read by individual subscribers, that would mean approximately 3-4 million readers. But if those 3 million copies are being read by 5 different people per day, 5 days a week, those 3 million copies are being read by roughly 75 million people. All those poor brainwashed Americans. Boy I'm glad I don't subscribe to Time!
If I was a gambler
July 7, 2009 - 11:58 ET by Paul AtreidesI would be willing to bet that Klein doesn't live in the inner city, doesn't shop in the inner city, doesn't dine in the inner city, etc.*
*inner city = predominantly minority
OUT...OF...TOUCHJOE
July 7, 2009 - 17:16 ET by TruthMongerOUT...
OF...
TOUCH...
JOE...
he's "livin in the msm bubble:)"
Palin/Prejean 2012
Of course not. Joe's a
July 7, 2009 - 13:27 ET by HockeyKidOf course not. Joe's a dyed-in-the-wool Upper East Sider. He visits a bohemian coffee house in The Village for his monthly dose of diversity.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Was Ray Charles stuck in "white-bread fantasy"?
July 7, 2009 - 12:00 ET by Jack ColemanCharles performed at '84 GOP convention, as I recall
Liberalism is the man-made religion of the left
July 7, 2009 - 12:07 ET by Paul AtreidesLiberalism is the man-made religion of the left in that it practices the very characteristics that it applies to Christianity: it preaches eternal guilt to the masses with racism, homophobia, and sexism seen in every utterance and action. Everything we do is a sin against the planet, taxation takes the place of tithing/giving, abortion is more sacred than birth, and every deviation will bring forth an inquistion.
Liberalism is based on hatred and control.
Yeah Joe, we much prefer Hussein Hopenchange!
July 7, 2009 - 12:03 ET by jefflebowskiWouldn't it be terrible to go back to the days when the dollar was strong, the economy was humming along creating wealth the world had never seen and the Soviet Union was about to crumble!
Now the Chinese tell us what to do, the dollar is collapsing and we have Obama apologizing all over the world for us trying to borrow trillions of dollars to dole out to his political buddies!
Yeah, I'm so glad it's not "morning in America" anymore. I must prefer the "nightmare in America" we are now living!
Angry White Dude
www.angrywhitedude.c...
Klein probably much prefers
July 7, 2009 - 12:09 ET by Chris NormanKlein probably much prefers the good ol' days of Jimmy Carter, where things were awful for just about everybody, but by golly, the government cared that they were...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
...and the sainted Uhbama
July 7, 2009 - 13:29 ET by HockeyKid...and the sainted Uhbama is doin' his damnedest to be Carter all over again, in spades.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Klein's Own Morning In America Is Already Going Down
July 7, 2009 - 12:16 ET by rammingspeedKlein is a radical who has nothing original to say. His evaluation of "Obama's America" as being more interesting blah blah blah is stupid. Reagen is villified by Klein and his ilk because of his capitalist, free market policies - Klein is a neo Marxist - and not the diversity of peoples and cultures. As America bleeds more from Obama's policies - those that actually become law - Klein and his fellows will become re-educated by the American people, through the ballot box.
Klein's Own Morning In America Is Already Going Down
July 7, 2009 - 12:27 ET by rammingspeedKlein is a radical who has nothing original to say. His evaluation of "Obama's America" as being more interesting blah blah blah is stupid. Reagan is villified by Klein and his ilk because of his capitalist, free market policies - Klein is a neo Marxist - and not any lack of attention to the diversity of peoples and cultures. As America bleeds more from Obama's policies - those that actually become law - Klein and his fellows will become re-educated by the American people, through the ballot box.
...a vestige of Ronald
July 7, 2009 - 12:36 ET by MidAmerica...a vestige of Ronald Reagan's "Morning in America" hornswoggle in the 1980s.
But.... they think obama is 'modern'. He's the 21st century. Well no he ain't. His philosophy is nothing more than a resurgence of the socialists/marxists of the 1950's who imagined themselves so superior in intellect, and ever so hip and 'cool'. After all, these were some of the influential people in barrys upbringing. I remember as a child in the late fifties and early sixties seeing profiles of these arrogant intellectual snobs who thought capitalism had run it's debauched course and that the future was an egalitarian workers paradise guided by these thinkers posessing a more highly developed intellect. Whenever I see barry without his tie looking down his nose at an impudent question form a mere reporter I travel back in time to smoky little cafes where poets and writers plot the rise of the 'common man'.
I'm applauding your post by
July 7, 2009 - 13:31 ET by HockeyKidI'm applauding your post by snapping my fingers...that should help complete the picture for you.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Here's a great clip of
July 7, 2009 - 14:55 ET by MidAmericaHere's a great clip of the lefties Beatnik past. Listen to this condescending diatribe against all things 'normal'. You know... like thats so squaresville man.
The beats begat beatniks who begat hippies who begat the modern day leftie.
Where's Maynard
July 7, 2009 - 18:40 ET by stratmanMade me think of Maynard G. Krebs (The Many Loves Of Dobie Gillis) and his bongos.
I real life, that beat chick would have married some square with lots of money to keep her in the life she truly desired. That is, unless, she became a junkie prostitute first - all for her art, of course.
Great analysis.
→ Zelda Gilroy
July 7, 2009 - 18:45 ET by Cool ArrowI think Zelda married Rachel Maddow.
Yikes!
July 7, 2009 - 19:18 ET by stratmanOn Zelda, from IMDB:
You haven't seen the last of Zelda!
*Wonder if the Harvard connection will help Zelda get "something something" from Obama?
Cool clip. I didn't know Don
July 7, 2009 - 18:52 ET by mandrakeCool clip. I didn't know Don Rickles could play piano!
White and Proud!
July 7, 2009 - 12:58 ET by GeneralAlI'm sick of these racist comments about us "White Folks!" I want my own TV network, I want quotas on the NBA, NFL, American and National Leagues! I want a Miss White America, I demand that minority owned businesses employ at least thirty per cent white! I want white only colleges and White History month. I want crimes committed against whites by minorities deemed as a hate crime! I'm sick of all the claims of racism by minorities! They are the racists and its time to fight back!
Whine Klein Craptmusik
July 7, 2009 - 13:07 ET by Jack BauerWas that an Iranian T-Party? T being Terrorist-Party.
Do tell Klein. I assume he's not one of the Jewish Kleins, by the by.
One of the things I really
July 7, 2009 - 13:23 ET by balboaOne of the things I really can't stand is this notion of "real Americans."
Baloney. We're all Americans.
That's where the left
July 7, 2009 - 13:47 ET by HockeyKidThat's where the left misses the point, every time. Just because you're born an American citizen doesn't mean you agree with the American way of life, as defined in our Constitution, Declaration, etc. This is the difference.
Naturalized citizens must take an oath to gain their citizenship. Natural citizens do not take that oath, and many on the left seem to think that birthright means that America is about whatever they want it to be about, be it socialism, authoritarianism, humanism, whatever. That's just a nonsensical point of view.
We can learn from the oath of citizenship:
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and
abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate,
state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject
or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of
the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will
bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that
I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United
States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national
importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that
I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose
of evasion; so help me God."
So, what's a "real American"? One that upholds these principles. Anyone who wants to reshape America into anything else--be it totalitarian, purely democratic, or anything in between that does not comport with our foundational heritage--is not a real American. And there are plenty of them, with more being "shaped" in our schools every day, more's the shame.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
That's where you miss the
July 7, 2009 - 14:09 ET by balboaThat's where you miss the point. An American who lives here is free to be whatever they want to be, as long as it's legal. They're free to live their life how they want to. If they want to never sing the national anthem, they can do it. If they want to belt it out every time, they can do it. What they shouldn't do is tell another person they're not a "true American" because they don't fit neatly into your definition.
The point of identifying
July 7, 2009 - 14:37 ET by robert108The point of identifying those who actually support American values as "real Americans" is to distinguish us from those who are merely parasites on the bounty of America, while squealing criticism. They're living here and enjoying their freedom to preach destruction, but they're still benefiting from what the real Americans do to maintain freedom for all.
balboa, But since
July 7, 2009 - 14:51 ET by hydrodynDMbalboa,
But since American's do have the freedoms that you point out, doesn't that mean having the freedom to tell someone that they aren't a "true American"?
Who are you to say that they shouldn't?
Well Said
July 7, 2009 - 15:15 ET by UtherpendBasically you have the right of free speech unless it means criticizing someone who so not for America.
No, sorry Balboa, I can call my illegal immagrant mexican neighbor a criminal and that he should go back to his own country and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. Unless of course you want to try and enforce your own form of free speech and that my friend will get you more than you bargined for.
"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."
Uther, I never said you
July 7, 2009 - 19:08 ET by balboaUther, I never said you couldn't do that, nor did I even address illegal immigrants. Yeesh.
Hydro, I'm not saying they
July 7, 2009 - 19:06 ET by balboaHydro, I'm not saying they can't or shouldn't, I'm saying it's really, really annoying, and IMO stupid.
balboa, You're not saying
July 7, 2009 - 21:05 ET by hydrodynDMbalboa,
You're not saying they shouldn't?
Can I quote you from about half a page up...
"What they shouldn't do..."
Do you even read your own posts?
Come on dude - you're just getting lazy at this point.
Say what you mean.
Hydro, True, I said that. I
July 7, 2009 - 22:16 ET by balboaHydro,
True, I said that. I guess I thought of that as more an opinion than a directive or attempt to control what others do.
balboa, I know what you
July 7, 2009 - 22:23 ET by hydrodynDMbalboa,
I know what you meant.
Again - say what you mean.
Then the democrat party is
July 8, 2009 - 04:31 ET by Andrew H.Then the democrat party is the wrong place to be. This criminal enterprise regulates the crap of every American in the country--and charges every American for the "priviledge."
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Right now, the shoe's on
July 7, 2009 - 14:07 ET by Chris NormanRight now, the shoe's on the other foot, with a few prominent liberals accusing conservative critics of being "unpatriotic" and even "treasonous" about the budget, the "stimulus" and even "cap and trade". "Shoe on the other foot" is really a misnomer, because I don't recall any real live prominent conservative or republican ever actually calling liberals "unpatriotic" or treasonous". That was always an imagined insult dreamed up by the liberals.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
balboa
July 8, 2009 - 01:35 ET by well99"We're all Americans."
I agree with you there bal but I notice you didnt mention anything about Kliens racist remarks.So if your a member of the party of the KKK it ok to make racist statements?Your ok with that I take it.As long as it is a Dem doing it then it is fine.
The telltale difference
July 7, 2009 - 13:37 ET by KC MulvilleHow do they get to claim sophistication? Sophisticates see past the surface. All Klein sees is white men, unable to grasp any quality other than race and gender.
You must always remember
July 7, 2009 - 13:50 ET by HockeyKidYou must always remember that liberals practice projection as a way of life. Whenever you hear a liberal accuse an opponent of something, just remember that it means that liberal is just describing his own thoughts, actions, or preferences. It's pathetic, really, but highly amusing at times.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
If anyone is "fetishizing",
July 7, 2009 - 13:59 ET by fitzfongIf anyone is "fetishizing", it's Joe "the Anonymous 'author'" Klown. In his world, it doesn't matter that the Community Organizer is intentionally ruining the economy so that he can force in his corrupt Marxist "values"...it's just so "cool" that we have a "culturally diverse" President (as if that, in and of itself, was of any value). Joe Klown is a unique character...nobody I can think of is so stridently ignorant, so arrogant without anything to be arrogant about (let me take that back, Klown's hero, "His Diversity", is on a par).
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Missed the point at the end
July 7, 2009 - 14:33 ET by WisdomWhile I don't agree with everything Klein is saying here, I think you entirely missed the point at the end, Ken. You say:
"After assailing the GOP as a party that "scorns diversity" Klein had the chutzpah to, well, scorn as tokens the African-American chairman of
the national GOP and the Indian-American governor of the state of Louisiana."
Then you make the outrageous claim that this sounds like a "condescending and racist allegation."
The point Klein is making is that the Republican party tries extra hard to promote diversity by just throwing Michael Steele and Bobby Jindal to the front ("attempting to plaster over this glaring deficiency") He is basically saying that in the long run, this is not going to work. Numbers have to back it up (female, minority). Diversity has to come natural otherwise people see through the "tokens." This is especially true for young people today, who have a lot more experience with diversity and other cultures than the older generations. And it's not just about race. The attempt in '08 at a token female for VP in Sarah Palin didn't work either because in the end, people saw through it, sorry to say.
"Diversity has to come
July 7, 2009 - 14:44 ET by ckc1227"Diversity has to come natural otherwise people see through the "tokens."
Too bad they never see through the Democrat use of "tokens". That whole party is based on it. I guess the ability to see through these "tokens" comes and goes.
Wisdom, no. Ignorance, si.
July 7, 2009 - 18:06 ET by Arminius"The point Klein is making is that the Republican party tries extra hard to promote diversity by just throwing Michael Steele and Bobby Jindal to the front ("attempting to plaster over this glaring deficiency") He is basically saying that in the long run, this is not going to work."
Steele and Jindal were not "thrown" to the front. They were both elected to their positions. An example of someone being thrown to the front would be Obama's nomination of the racist Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court. There are clearly hundreds of more qualified individuals in the U.S., but Obama was determined to nominate a Latina.
This is the way Democrats appoint people. Remember Bill Clinton's picks for attorney general? Janet Reno, a spinster, was finally picked after Clinton's first two picks, women with nanny problems, fell through. Does anyone seriously believe that the top three individuals for attoeney general were all women?
Arm... In this case I
July 7, 2009 - 18:12 ET by bigtimerArm...
In this case I do...after-all, Shrillary was really doing the picking.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Wisdom, you say
July 7, 2009 - 21:52 ET by motherbeltWisdom, you say that
Diversity has to come natural otherwise people see through the "tokens."
Are you saying that Republicans force a few blacks into their party so they can claim "diversity"? Or that they limit their numbers because they only want a few as "tokens"?
There is no rule against blacks joining the Republican party. If blacks don't join it, it's their own choice.
If they prefer to side with the Democrats, who treat them like chattel, and children who can't fend for themselves without Big Daddy Government to hold their hands and give them a leg up, they are comfortable in their chains. And they're not even smart. For 40 years the Democrats have been promising to "fix" things for black people, and they still haven't done it.
But they keep believing that the Democrats are going to do "it" for them; and continue to believe that republicans hate black people, and the only reason they promote black people to important positions is to hide the fact that they hate black people.Yet blacks swallow the bait every time.
Look at Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice. Two black Secretaries of State named by a Republican President. Colin Powell is a complete ingrate and Democrats love him.(Just ONCE, I wish some "journalist" would ask him WHY he is a Republcian!)
But they ridiculed Condi Rice as an Aunt Jemima, a stupid black slave and a thick lipped parrot, mindlessly babbling what Bush told her to say. And that was when they weren't implying something perverted between her and President Bush. To Democrats, especially liberals, black is not a skin color; it's a political belief system. Anyone who doesn't believe, isn't really black.
So don't go blaming Republicans for the lack of black faces. The door has always been open. You can open the door and put out the welcome mat; you can't make people come in if they don't want to join the group.
So what do you think Republicans should do to "attract" more blacks?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
So don't go blaming
July 7, 2009 - 21:58 ET by bigtimerSo don't go blaming Republicans for the lack of black faces. The door
has always been open. You can open the door and put out the welcome
mat; you can't make people come in if they don't want to join the
group.
motherbelt...
Nobody, and nothing could say it better.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Great point MB
July 7, 2009 - 22:36 ET by general companyI only new real racism when I was a yankee, I grew up in MD. In PG county when they started integration, My sister continued at the all white school in Laurel and I got bussed 25 miles to a school called "Martin Luther King Jr Jr High". If you were white and failed to write that heading on every paper turned in you got an F. 1200 students, 200 were in the lowest grade (7th) and white. I was in fights every day, because I was white. The folks involved just could not help but insert there comparisons, their faults. The kids, we learned, we adjusted, the bigots never did. Now I dont blame the kids, my sisters school treated the black kids the same way, it was the adults, the media that enhanced this nonsense. Those that talk race are the racist. 10yrs later I found myself in Southeastern La, all of my friends love their heritage, and make you proud to know them.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I remember integration was
July 8, 2009 - 06:02 ET by Dan The Man 2I remember integration was just being implemented in Houston when I reached Jr High. I went to Black Junior High in 1968 and there were quite a few bussed in blacks. In my experience they travelled in packs or at least some of them and they wanted to start trouble. They carried rakes, combs made of 4 or more 3" spikes and sometimes sharpened, and threatened me with them many times.
I also remember at least 3 mob fights, black against white, where as many as 200 people were involved. Yes that year and the next was very hard for me. I was very shy and introverted then and scared out of my ever loving mind.
Fights in my school were bad at best anyways if at school. Knives or razors were used sometimes and if two got into it then a circle of people was formed and they would take potshots at one of the fighters. I hated it, I hated school period.
"the party of immigrant
July 7, 2009 - 14:38 ET by ckc1227"the party of immigrant bashing"
Yeah, you really have to love these elite, highly educated, know-it-all journalists.....who apparently don't know the difference between "immigrant" and "illegal immigrant".
Hey Joe, why don't you take a long walk on a short pier. YOU are what's wrong with this country. The sooner we get rid of folks like you, the better we'll be.
Long walk
July 7, 2009 - 18:08 ET by ArminiusBy the look of Klein, I don't think he has taken many short walks in quite some time, let alone long walks. If he bleached his beard he could play Santa sans the padding.
"For a people who are
July 7, 2009 - 15:08 ET by Utherpend"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."
Klein is a noBODY !!!!!
July 7, 2009 - 16:08 ET by Edward CropperI seriously doubt that anyone ever reads Joe Klein on a regular basis except his editor, and even he/she is paid to do so.
Era of Reagan Over, Back To the Era of Carter
July 7, 2009 - 16:09 ET by deerjerkydaveNow that the era of Reagan is over I guess that means we're back to the era of Jimmy Carter.
Good luck with that America.
Time and Newsweek
July 7, 2009 - 17:00 ET by Six String Spiff...are 2 publications that I turn upside down wherever I got to prevent the spread of stupidity.
Klien, you are pretentious hack whos time is LOOOOONG up. Stop pretending to be 'nuanced' and 'moderate'. There is a silver lining to having you still write for Time though. My cat loves to poop on you.
...Barack Obama's
July 7, 2009 - 18:21 ET by stratmanI get the impresion Klein defines Obama's America (since when did America become his?) as
I say at this point in time that Obama's America is becoming a poorer place with a bleaker future because of Obama's policies.
Shove it, Joe.
Klein is still Anonymous to
July 7, 2009 - 18:40 ET by bigtimerKlein is still Anonymous to me...actually, I think he is still to the majority of Americans...just guessing here.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
What? Joe,. you didn't get the memo?
July 7, 2009 - 20:26 ET by ParagrouperThere will be none of this bashin' on the bitter, clinging, white trash middle-American crackers. Haven't you been paying attention to Bo and Totus? You've got to spread the love, Joe. Remember, Obama is the great world unifier. He's more than a man--he's the UniBama.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr
Paragrouper I hate to
July 7, 2009 - 20:31 ET by Radical1979Paragrouper I hate to correct you but I could swear I heard during the big memorial coverage today that Michael Jackson was the big unifier bringing blacks and whites together and, well, you know the rest.
You know that old saying Rad
July 7, 2009 - 20:35 ET by ParagrouperOut with old and in with the new!
You really watched that circus? Wow, you're tougher than me.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr
What can I say, my son was
July 7, 2009 - 20:37 ET by Radical1979What can I say, my son was off work, home on the family room pc, so I turned it on. We bonded over the ridiculousness of it and how little we knew about the "celebrities" on it. I'll watch just about anything to spend time with my kids (their teenagers, I'm not to important anymore!)
My only daughter
July 7, 2009 - 20:42 ET by ParagrouperMarried a Marine and moved to CA (I still haven't figured that one out) so I get the picture.
I got to see about 35 seconds at lunch today--that was how long it took my buddy to convince the restaurant manager to change the channel. Funerals and lunch, they just don't mix.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr
That was a funeral...do
July 7, 2009 - 20:47 ET by bigtimerThat was a funeral...do tell, could have sworn that was a concert.
As the msm has been billing it...'A Spectacular Event'
Society...what lows we have sunk to as a whole....know what I mean?
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I noticed Joe Jackson doing
July 7, 2009 - 20:51 ET by Radical1979I noticed Joe Jackson doing a lot of munching. I guess they found a way to keep him from talking. If they could have done the same for Al Sharpton...
Rad... OMG Sharpton when
July 7, 2009 - 20:58 ET by bigtimerRad...
OMG Sharpton when it comes to all of this is all but embarrassing...well, it should be, but while he is whoring himself via the air-waves, so are the air-waves broadcasting his blatant prostitution for another cause....I can just hear the next bill brought up on the floor...'The M.J. Civil Rights Bill' and blah blah blah in it.
It will pass...no problem...probably hidden in the Nationalized Health Care Plan for one and all.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bt Sharpton actually said
July 7, 2009 - 21:03 ET by Radical1979bt Sharpton actually said something to the kids that was unreal. It was something like "Your daddy wasn't strange, what we did to him was strange". My son and I were rolling. At MJ's memorial Sharpton tells the kids their dad wasn't strange??! What a way to point out the guy WAS strange!
Rad... I heard
July 7, 2009 - 21:09 ET by bigtimerRad...
I heard that...that was part of the reason I commented, it was surreal really, but then again this whole thing has became that...in fact out whole society has, it really dis-spirits me at times.
Oh well...what are you gonna do but fight the best you can with what you can.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bt, despite living in a
July 7, 2009 - 21:18 ET by Radical1979bt, despite living in a democratic state (ugh) I seem to find a lot of like minded people around here. And I don't get to down because my kids are pretty staunch conservatives, and my son hangs out with quite a few, so I have hope for the future! My daughter went through the middle school liberal phase but getting a job, dealing with the public, then having her paycheck attacked by the government spun her around!
So we try to laugh at the absurdities of MJ's memorial, although if this unrelenting press coverage doesn't stop I may have to get a gun and shoot the t.v.
Rad... No, no! Keep
July 7, 2009 - 21:23 ET by bigtimerRad...
No, no!
Keep your powder dry.....they are raising the price of that, plus you'd have to replace the TV...
I know...been there...done that. ;-)
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Para
July 7, 2009 - 20:50 ET by Radical1979Married a Marine and moved to CA (I still haven't figured that one out) so I get the picture.
Considering how the state universities have treated recruiters I'm kind of thinking we shouldn't have any armed forces in CA. Just give the state to Mexico and let them deal with the problems.
I have a lot of admiration for your son-in-law. I hope he's treated well out there.
Thanks, I like the guy too.
July 7, 2009 - 20:59 ET by ParagrouperAlthough for the life of me, I can't figure out why not Army? (big smile).
It is a huge culture shock for both of them, as both he and my daughter grew up in Texas.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr
Joe Klein is an ass! And I
July 7, 2009 - 21:37 ET by Clear thinkerJoe Klein is an ass! And I would like to top that off with go to hell.
I have been working very hard to spread a message that people should NOT be confusing Conservatism with Republicanism. When people want to throw out accusations that are racial in nature they had better differentiate between those of the GOP and those that are Conservatives.
So here's the deal JOE... Conservatives by nature and upbringing, have always judged people by the content of their character. Skin color to a Conservative has also always been an incidental, not good or bad, it just is what it is. However, I cannot say the same about Republicans as a whole. History shows that it was the Republican party did more for minorities in this country than Dems could ever dream of doing, and it was the Conservatives in the party that pushed the ideals of equality, so the party fortunately went along. Unfortunately, the GOP has changed so much over just the last decade, I can no longer make the claim that Republicans still believe in equality. Hell, I'm not sure what they believe in any more.
MESSAGE TO JOE KLEIN: We (Conservatives) have been told by the left so many times that we are racists that we decided to fight back. It's a small thing but at least it's something public so all can see. We wrote a 'pledge' (and a darn good one too) for Conservatives to sign, that explains how we have not, and am not racist. And the nice thing about it is... if we are ever in an argument with a lefty that wants to call someone a racist, that person need only lead the lefty to you're name on the "pledge" (see link). One other thing Joe, why is it that liberals are always the ones bringing up race? It's as if you want to start a fight. But as soon as the fight starts, you want to point in our direction like it's our fault. Well it's not! Some of the most racist people I have ever met are lifelong Democrats. People just like you Joe!
http://iamnotaracist.wordpress.com/
It's obvious Klein...
July 7, 2009 - 22:21 ET by MightyMouth...has no "slave blood" (like BHO) and therefore no right to talk!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I am beginning to take great
July 7, 2009 - 22:57 ET by KevroyI am beginning to take great offense to the term "white folks". I prefer Caucasian-American. I've earned my hyphen.
Kev... I Second that
July 7, 2009 - 23:14 ET by bigtimerKev...
I Second that Motion!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Ministry of Truth Working Overtime
July 8, 2009 - 04:34 ET by RR GOPI don't remember things being bad under Reagan...but I guess they were. I do seem to remember now that the door of opportunity was slammed shut on minorities back in the '80s under Reagan now that Joe Klink has enlightened me.
Thought crime is so insidious. I was a thought criminal and didn't even realize it!
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
More anti-white hate from liberals
July 8, 2009 - 10:12 ET by Mike76Anti-white hatemongers like Klein like to smear white cities and places with terms like "white-bread fantasies" - as if there is something inherently wrong with something that's "white."
But they never have anything to say about the crime, poverty, and general decay that occurs in black or Mexican areas - except to blame whites for somehow causing it. And they NEVER use smears when talking about "minorites" They ONLY use smears (like "white-bread fantasies") when talking about whites.
Klien, and liberals in general, don't care about "a more diverse place from the Reagan fantasy." They only applaud "multiculturalism" if it harms white people. Have you ever heard them complain about the lack of "diversity" in places like Mexico or China? How about in places in the US like Harlem or all Mexican cities in California? Me neither.
Klein, and liberals in general, are anti-white. It's as simple as that.