Whenever Oscar-winning filmmaker Michael Moore releases a new documentary the reaction in the press is typically jubilant. Rave reviews. Fawning interviews which rarely ask tough questions. Oscar buzz aplenty.
But this time could be different.
Moore’s last film, “Slacker Uprising,” didn’t go straight to DVD. It went straight to download. Now, Moore’s catching heat from Movieline.com, the online film magazine which routinely taunts conservative targets like Gov. Sarah Palin. The site’s new Moore-related post swats the filmmaker for a less than sharp attempt at marketing his upcoming film about the country’s economic collapse. The movie blogger sets up his critique here:
Obviously, I don’t want this blog to get quoted on redstate.com or wherever, but there’s so much manufactured badness here:
This is only one example of a left-leaning site deciding not to carry water for Moore. Maybe Moore Nation (AKA the MSM) will fall in line soon enough. But with a liberal in the White House, the need on the Left to rally around Moore’s polemics decreases dramatically.
If that’s the case, there’s a better than average chance movie critics and entertainment reporters alike will see through Moore’s Everyman persona.
Christian Toto is a contributing reporter for The Washington Times, MovieMaker Magazine and boxoffice.com. He blogs about film at whatwouldtotowatch.com and at The Denver Examiner. This piece was originally published on June 17 at the Big Hollywood blog.
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Out To Pasture
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 12:03 ET by JDWMcAuliffe, Bubba, and now Moore. Certainly there's a position at ABC available.
JDW
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When people fear their government there is tyranny.
When government fears the people there is liberty.
Gee, it's inspiring
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 12:16 ET by Chris NormanGee, it's inspiring pictures like this that make me feel all patriotic...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Did they airbrush 200
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 12:26 ET by Roger the ShrubberDid they airbrush 200 pounds off of the Detroit Douche?
Yes, and they airbrushed a bath, shave & washed clothes while
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 12:38 ET by pahuberthey were at it ; )
pah...and others
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 13:10 ET by bigtimerpah...and others above....you should all have had a Spew Alert Warning...I'm still laughing...you all said it all regarding Moore.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hi BT, sorry about that...lol Hope you guys are holding up
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:35 ET by pahuberunder all the storms out our way this week :)
We had some doozies north and southeast of the TC, but just one T storm so far this summer.
Re airbrush
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 13:42 ET by slickwillie2001Wow, did they ever. Either that or this is a high-school picture. Here is one more current, the -'where the hell did my neck go picture': http://ace.mu.nu
What a toad...
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 13:52 ET by bigtimerBull-frog indeed...where's the Budweiser commercials when you need them...oh yeah, I forgot, they weren't PC enough....Peta and all.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
It's a publicity photo. He
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 15:46 ET by Another Dead KennedyIt's a publicity photo. He spent lots and lots of money to look this good. Then again, we haven't seen Moore publicly in quite a while, so it's possible he's been exercising and dieting to clean himself up.
I don't know about you guys, but I just want to give him a big hug.
Hugs
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:13 ET by RukusAnd I'm sure he'd like to hug your back. : )
Gary
The answer is clear, and it mixes well with orange juice! - My Dad
And that's my excuse! - Me
Gary... Lol...for all we
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:16 ET by bigtimerGary...
Lol...for all we know we may be talking to Moore the way KDW is so defensive about him all over the place, especially about anything I am posting.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Yeah
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:28 ET by RukusYou may be on to something there. : )
Gary
The answer is clear, and it mixes well with orange juice! - My Dad
And that's my excuse! - Me
BT. I'm being defensive
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:29 ET by Another Dead KennedyBT. I'm being defensive because you're complaining about a filmmaker who's been around for 20 years, and you haven't seen even one of his pictures. As the self proclaimed smartest-newsbuster, I'm sure you can see the fault in this. You can't complain about something you don't know about. It's ignorance, pure and simple. Now go watch one of his movies this weekend and I'll have a little more respect for you Monday morning.
Knock off your BS here
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:43 ET by bigtimerKnock off your BS here KDW...I never, ever claimed to be the smartest NBs here and you know that full well from last afternoon via our posts...so quit trying your troll BS here counting on others to not know that....disingenuous genius.
...and I could give a rats rear about your respect for me one way or the other.
Dkos is calling.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
BT, you come after me every
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:55 ET by Another Dead KennedyBT, you come after me every chance you can. I'm not trolling here. I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy in complaining about something you don't know about. I've never posted on Dkos, and I'm not interested. I already know what they're b*tching about. I'm here to find out about the other side and participate in some good, healthy debates. Which I guess is what makes us different. I like to see both sides. You like to stay where you're comfortable and can be backed up by like-minded individuals. So I give up. See ya 'round.
I dunno, KDW, but maybe you just picked on the wrong BT?
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:06 ET by acaiguanaI've read your stuff. Just today mind you.
You don't seem too obscure to me.
One thing I do know. When the Conservative people (that would be me) took umbrage with Michael Moore and gave him credence, the clear water would have been to ignore his drivel.
In retrospect the heat of the anger and hate directed at GWB allowed us to cloud our eyes to the irrelevance of this person. He is no film genius nor his he particularly smart. He is clever enough to grab an emotion and run it through a camera lens. That does not make him a Fellini, nor does it make him more than a mediocre Hollywood infused flash in the pan.
As it were, it looks like the talent has kicked him into the garbage can where he belongs. He is like a one-tune hit artist. He made a movie that got him some bucks; he capatilized on that; he died.
RIP
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
I'm sorry, but Moore is no
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:52 ET by Another Dead KennedyI'm sorry, but Moore is no one-hit wonder. I'm not saying you have to like him, and I'm fine if you hate him, but at least know what you're talking about before you attack. I'm not implying you're attacking him, and I'm fine with your reasons for not liking him. But to critique his films, it's kind of necessary to actually see one of them. He's done a bunch, and he'll do more.
But remember he's a documentarian. And I'm the first to admit there's nothing unbiased about a documentary.
Kennedy Death Watch *try dead grape with hole in it".
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:02 ET by acaiguanaWhat part of RIP do you not understand?
He has nothing in his films to critique. To critique film, well, I'll admit that a film exists; but there has to be some there, 'there'.
I haven't seen any there, 'there'.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
second witnesses
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:47 ET by konoKDW says BT's criticism of Moore lacks credibility because he hasn't watched one of the dumpster-dork's movies... Fine. I've watched three of them, and they left me with the impression that I'd just watched the gang-raping of Truth. When you cut-and-paste fragmented scenes from up to a dozen different events and try to pass them off as one, your work is more properly likened to a ransom note than a documentary.
There is a huge difference between accidental, unavoidable bias and deliberate, systematic deception. Michael Moore and Al Gore have made 'documentary' synonymous with 'propaganda' in little more than a decade.
Kono, you so far are the
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 20:12 ET by Another Dead KennedyKono, you so far are the only one to gain my respect in this argument. At least you've seen some of the material of which we're discussing. I don't like all of his movies, and I haven't seen all of them either. But I still say Roger and Me holds up pretty well, even today. I'm stumped as to why anyone here wants to argue on the side of GM after what they've stuck this country with, but whatever. Thanks for an honest, educated comment.
Still spinning away I see
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 20:24 ET by bigtimerStill spinning away I see ....sitting and spinning isn't helping ya KDW.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I get it now. You have no
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 21:12 ET by Another Dead KennedyI get it now. You have no argument so you resort to these little "sit and spin" insults to get the last word in. Continue.
Ya know, we might have watched......
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:55 ET by BEGRUNThis propaganda films if he hadn't already been known as a Bald Faced LIAR, Fabricator.......Ya man of the people, whose own life history has been fabricated, and distorted. When he worked for "Mother Jones" he was a known LAZY FAT SLOB, who took credit for others work.......That is why they CANNED him!!!!! With a resume like that, we are supposed to be interested in ANYTHING this moron produces??? He was a proven liar in "Roger and Me".....caught red handed......staged events. Also "Bowling for Columbine"......he staged the gun giveaway by the bank!!!!! I say again, why should we be interested in anything this LIAR produces???? A cheap SOB that wont even provide health care for his own workers......did I mention Tax Cheat as well??? So go ahead KDW and worship at the alter of your LIAR IN CHIEF!!!
You're CRAZY with the
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:46 ET by Another Dead KennedyYou're CRAZY with the punctuation!!!
BTW, not a Michael Moore worshiper. If you read some of my older posts I've written that I haven't even seen his last few movies.
But unlike some of my fellow NBers, I like to know what I'm talking about before I start the talkin'.
Oh....thats just me when I get pissed.............
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:18 ET by BEGRUNTI just wanted to pointout some facts about Mr. Moore to you since you seem unaware.
No need to get pissed. You
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:26 ET by Another Dead KennedyNo need to get pissed. You must have just misread my posts. The only point I tried to make here is that it's ignorant to critique a film you haven't seen. Whether you hate him or not, it doesn't make a difference to me. But be informed.
Begrunt... ...and a fine
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:26 ET by bigtimerBegrunt...
...and a fine job you did.
KDW likes to take both sides of the aisle if he can to act oh so innocent...it gets old with me...same tactics used by a lot on the left that are here, past and present...at times it is mind-numbing, but that is the new tactic schooling for the trolls that have smarts...and we're all suppose to go, oh isn't that wonderful, he/she is so open to us and the way we think, and we'd better be oh so nice to them, as they get away with the conquer and divide BS, to me it's obvious over time......blah blah blah...oh well, their someone to play with now and then I suppose.
JMO
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
KDW likes to take both sides
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:34 ET by Another Dead KennedyKDW likes to take both sides of the aisle if he can to act oh so innocent...
Do you have an example?
Just read your own posts
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:40 ET by bigtimerJust read your own posts since you've been here...I'm not playing tennis with you.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
See, that's the most typical
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:50 ET by Another Dead KennedySee, that's the most typical argument you make with me. You say I do something, then you can't find anything to back up your argument and tell me to do my own research. I don't have to research YOUR argument. That's why it's YOUR argument. You're starting to remind me of some other posters here. Are you using multiple usernames?
KDW, may I give you some advice....................
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:12 ET by BEGRUNTBy using your own standards........dont defend a man who's movies, and/or background you know nothing about.....because you will run into somone like me who will call you on it. Your logic is, "well he's liberal/leftist, so he must be good"......do your homework, before making an .....well you know, out of yourself.
All you did was state that
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 20:08 ET by Another Dead KennedyAll you did was state that some of the events in his movies were staged. I don't doubt that (although generally proof is given to backup an argument), as I've been saying all along that documentaries are made to fulfill the filmmaker's ideas - not to tell things the way they really happened. 3 sides to every story, right?
But if you need a pat on the back, go ahead and give it to yourself. You have failed to counter my argument that you can't condemn a movie you haven't seen. Thanks for your time.
Really!!??
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 21:55 ET by BEGRUNTSo because Moore's "Ideas".....that's weak dude!! That doesn't make them true....3 sides to every story??? You got to be kidding me.................so that makes it true!!?? Fine.....his "ideas" are full of BS....as I outlined earlier, good god your reaching!!!! "Not to tell things the way they happened".....ummm I thought that was what a "documentery" was all about......please explain!!??
Read your own
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:15 ET by bigtimerRead your own posts.
Period.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Are you sure that's not Jack
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:26 ET by Roger the ShrubberAre you sure that's not Jack Nicholson?
Chris Norman, What's wrong with this picture?
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:22 ET by goldenthroatMichael Moore holding an American flag? It's amazing what you can do with Photoshop!
"Inferior people should not be employed!" - Firesign Theatre
Proud to say that I've never
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 12:33 ET by pahuberProud to say that I've never seen one of his movies.
Mooreon!
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 14:28 ET by blazermaniacThat makes two of us!
Three of us. Doubling
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 14:35 ET by bigtimerThree of us.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Add me to the list! "I
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 15:04 ET by MazziAdd me to the list!
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Wait - hold on here. How
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 15:48 ET by Another Dead KennedyWait - hold on here. How can you possibly condemn the guy's movies when you haven't even seen one??? Roger and Me is one of the best documentaries of all time. If people had taken notice of what he pointed out in that movie, there's a good chance the auto industry wouldn't be in the state it's in today.
Two words in answer to your
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 15:51 ET by bigtimerTwo words in answer to your question as far as I am concerned...
Common sense.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
So you're psychic too? You
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:00 ET by Another Dead KennedySo you're psychic too? You know the contents of a movie without even seeing it? I can understand why conservatives don't want to see most of Moore's movies, as you're a typical target of his, but some of his movies have nothing to do with politics. It's almost as if you were told he's a bad man, and you never bothered to question why. But I'll keep this in mind next time you're complaining about his next movie (that you won't see anyway).
I don't care what you keep
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:06 ET by bigtimerI don't care what you keep in mind.
I never said I condemned his movies...I said I never watched them and never will waste my time doing so.
I know full well what kind of a fat over-inflated slug Moore is, plus his politics....and that is all I need to know.
Columbine was enough for me.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Columbine. Right.
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:10 ET by Another Dead KennedyColumbine. Right. Another movies you haven't seen. But it's enough for you? I just don't understand this kind of thinking. Whatever. You and I just don't get along.
Not my problem you don't
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 16:13 ET by bigtimerNot my problem you don't understand.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hi KDW, I do not need to step in dog poo to know it's there...
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:32 ET by pahubermm's movies are known to play fast and loose with the facts.
Why waste one dollar to go to one of his movies?
Well you know there's this
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:41 ET by Another Dead KennedyWell you know there's this really neat thing called cable tv, and sometimes they play movies. You can also sign up for a Netflix account and rent all of the movies you'd like for one monthly charge. Are you another person who hates his movies yet hasn't actually seen one?
Hi KDW,
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:48 ET by pahuber"Are you another person who hates his movies yet hasn't actually seen one?"
Yes, there are better works of fiction to watch : )
Documentarians show you what
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:24 ET by Another Dead KennedyDocumentarians show you what they want you to see. It's never been about the facts.
That is the problem...these
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:38 ET by bigtimerThat is the problem...these so-called rewriting history documentaries are suppose to go on real facts...that is why they used to have the exulted title of Documentaries.
They are a joke for the most part anymore.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Twistamentaries
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:43 ET by botgor Lieamentaries, if done by Mikie
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Lol...I like your terms
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:46 ET by bigtimerLol...I like your terms here for Docs Bruce.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
BT, name one documentary
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:44 ET by Another Dead KennedyBT, name one documentary that's ever been made that doesn't specifically tell just one side of the story - the filmmaker's side. These are biased films. They always have been. You can argue the word "documentary" to your little heart's content, but this is the reality of documentary filmmaking.
They are supposed to be
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:50 ET by bigtimerThey are supposed to be based on real facts...they quit doing that years ago when it comes to the leftists with an agenda.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
1921. Nanook of the North.
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:52 ET by Another Dead Kennedy1921. Nanook of the North. Completely fabricated documentary. Or were you talking about movies up UNTIL then?
You're a riot hater....but
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:02 ET by bigtimerYou're a riot hater....but I've missed you leon....hows that 101st keyboard brigade working for ya?
How's Stern doing?
Just thought I'd throw that out there buddy...for the heck of it.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I'm not sure how to respond
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:06 ET by Another Dead KennedyI'm not sure how to respond to this one. Are you accusing me of being someone else? Is this going to be another argument where you provide no backup whatsoever, and then make me do the research to help you make your argument? Get back to me when you have something substantive to say.
PS: What's a riot hater?
yeah Nanook
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:05 ET by botgwasn't that by Frank Zappa?
you been eating the yellow snow??
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Look it up. It's in the
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:08 ET by Another Dead KennedyLook it up. It's in the National Film Registry.
this ain't no 'World at War'
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:12 ET by botghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws5Xeu3BEQk
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Ah, THAT Frank Zappa! But
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 20:09 ET by Another Dead KennedyAh, THAT Frank Zappa!
But no, I'm still talking about the 1920s movie.
No botg, Just having a mitten loaded beady circular eye rub.
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:30 ET by upcountrywaterHand me my lead filled snow shoe.
Reagan VS Carter and 0bama
ucw
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:35 ET by botgdid you peek at my link
;^ )
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Umm yea, did we do this before?
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 20:35 ET by upcountrywaterFrank with Steve Allen
Reagan VS Carter and 0bama
Hmmm...remember Pearl Harbor?
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 21:30 ET by SickofLibs"name one documentary that's ever been made that doesn't specifically tell just one side of the story "
Umm, lemme see - how about any one of the hundreds of Pearl Harbor documentaries?
But those are just one-sided I guess, having never seen a Jap-made Pearl Harbor documentary where the Japs were the heros.
though some
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:39 ET by botgattempt to show the true in context history of an event and not try to twist and mislead the viewers as Mikie boy does. And yes KDW i do have a vhs of F-911 by Mikie ( it was at Big Lots for 99 cents), i quit watching it after the 10th misrepresentation and/or outright lie. In other words i didn't see more than 10 minutes. Now if you want to defend Mikie's twisted misleading lie of a movie you really are stupider than i thought.
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Name calling. Mature. 10
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:46 ET by Another Dead KennedyName calling. Mature. 10 minutes, eh? Wow, you must know everything about all of his movies just based on that. Forget it.
10 lies in under
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:51 ET by botg10 minutes that's enough to conclude ol Mikie isn't worth wasting any more time on. Also my term was conditional on you giving proof of being stupid wasn't it? If you are unable to deal with this, then you really are an idiot troll.
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Idiot. Troll. You're
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:53 ET by Another Dead KennedyIdiot. Troll. You're really hurting my feelings here. And I thought you were going to take the high road here.
are you too dense
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:59 ET by botgto understand the logic? Conditional premises are what i used and you proudly claim the titles i only offer them to you.
It's like this: I say, if you defend the liar you are an idiot troll: to which you replied you called me an idiot troll. If you don't want the descriptor desist with the behavior.
I have not called you anything i have merely pointed out what you can do to earn the title. And you jump to it each time.
Don't want to be called an idiot? Don't act like one. Simple and plain.
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
You're back peddling so fast
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 20:17 ET by Another Dead KennedyYou're back peddling so fast my head is spinning. Did I defend his work? Did I? I've been looking since my first post for someone who can make an educated argument about Moore's films, yet no one seems to have seen any of them. I'm not even arguing that his films are truthful. If you think I have, then you're the idiot (see, I didn't call you an idiot, I only said...)
Back peddling is actually a
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 20:28 ET by mandrakeBack peddling is actually a good thing. Muhammed Ali was the only fighter I ever saw who could fight while backing up. It was amazing!
then why were you taking umbrage?
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 20:37 ET by botgi clearly posted if you defend him then you are stupider than i thought (that was actually saying i didn't think you were stupid)
then i posted that i had a copy of F-911 and saw 10 misrepresentations and/or lies in under ten minutes and based on that determined Mikie not worth watching.
So the only place you can disagree with me is whether Mikie is worth watching and you are disagreeing with me. What then are you disagreeing with and why are you complaining?
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Did you read all of my
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 21:10 ET by Another Dead KennedyDid you read all of my comments on this page or just the part where you started? I think I've said this 10 times now. My complaint started with the string of posters who claimed they hadn't seen any of his movies, but still felt compelled to criticize them. If you don't like his movies because you've seen at least one of them, I have no problem with that. But to critique something you've only heard about, mostly from people with a negative review of him already, it doesn't serve your argument well. Now when it comes to your statistics about misstatements, I can only ask that you provide some sort of proof of this argument. Any credible source will suffice, but it's not necessary because I'm sure there are in fact some misrepresentations to complete the story that the director intended to tell. Again, I've said this all along.
which is precisely why
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 21:54 ET by botgi pointed out that i OWN a copy of F-911 and WATCHED enough for Mikie to disqualify himself as a true documentarian. Why then did you argue with me about it?
Well you can watch the first ten minutes of F-911 yourself and i'm sure can locate the lies since your not stupid.
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
It's never been about the fact?
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:48 ET by RukusDidn't you earlier allude to that you haven't watched a documenory that you didn't agree with? I may be wrong, but I'll look for it.
Gary
The answer is clear, and it mixes well with orange juice! - My Dad
And that's my excuse! - Me
I don't think so. But I
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:59 ET by Another Dead KennedyI don't think so. But I will say I've never seen a documentary that isn't clearly biased in one way or another.
I take that back. Nature documentaries. Planet Earth is one of the greatest documentaries I've ever seen, especially in HD.
OK
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:30 ET by RukusI agree to a point. When anything ever appears to be climate change or man made whaterver, I disagree. We are too small to affect anything in nature (climate), then I have a problem. Otherwise I agree. Nature shows are obviously, lately, puting too much crap into climate change, which we have little, if no, effect on. Otherwise, ok.
Gary
Look, it's already hot as hell down here, so don't sweat it! - My Dad
Sweet tea please! - Me
KDW , I saw sicko, Kuz it was A FREE download.
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:40 ET by upcountrywaterMy favorite part about that movie was this:
NO ONE was in the hospital, except the mikey moore gang. All the doctors and nurses just milling around, ONLY attending to mikey's gang...
As if every Cubian is soo very healthy, doing back breaking work in the peoples gardens, repairing the peoples fleet of 50's vintage autos.
I didn't see roger and me, is mikey's plan like GM (government motors) is now?
Reagan VS Carter and 0bama
"How can you possibly
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:52 ET by Jerry"How can you possibly condemn the guy's movies when you haven't even seen one???"
Don't have to taste dog poop to know its crap. If it comes out of a dogs butt, it's dog poop.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Pets or Meat?
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 21:22 ET by SickofLibsRoger and Me is one of the best documentaries of all time?
Right, only if you happen to be a "poor, downtrodden, disenfranchised" UAW worker.
I suppose the UAW has a statue of Pizza The Hutt outside their headquarters. Or maybe its on the 18th green of their world class "private" golf course.
It kills me how people on
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 12:41 ET by AlanaIt kills me how people on the left don't want to admit to truth. This guy is worried that redstate or some other site might quote him.
(He figures he's safe because it's Obama's watch now, and Obama must be defended.)
Another example of those on the left prefering to deny things (or lie about them) rather than to be caught dead, ever, on "the wrong side," for even a moment. No matter what horrible things the "right" side does. They will never call out a one of them.
That might be principled or something.
Possibly because of topic
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 13:03 ET by TocanoIs it possible they are afraid of what even Michael Moore might do with his newest movie? If I'm not mistaken, I think his next movie focuses on the economic collapse, bailouts, TARP, etc. If that's the case, it's possible that libs are afraid of what populist Moore might put in his film which reflects badly on Dems. Specifically fearing those involved like Frank and Dodd and the Fed might get hit with collateral damage when Moore goes after Bush.
Moore is Not Needed
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 14:05 ET by allanfWhen Moore was Bashing Bush in Farenheit 911 or the health care system is Sicko that was okay. But the media won't allow his rants to put a stain on Obama. In fact, advocating reform of health care past what the chosen one chooses would not be permitted either.
It is party run media.
A plain win for truth,
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 13:04 ET by snaggletoothieA plain win for truth, justice and the American Way.
He should go back to his
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 13:15 ET by mattmHe should go back to his comic book store gig.
Alter Ego
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 14:24 ET by Dan Diegohttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/7/79/20090125224011%21The_Simpsons-Jeff_Albertson.png
Haw!!
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:24 ET by DoktorFrankenWorst documentarian - EVER!
Excellent...
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:29 ET by Dan DiegoExcellent...
Dok....
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:36 ET by BlondePer my friend candance...it goes thusly:
Worst.
Documentatarian.
Ever.
Or, as Yoda would say....thusly, it goes.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:01 ET by DoktorFrankenAh, yes, I forgot. I claim end of week weakness.
I shan't forget again!
Figured out
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:08 ET by American.PatriotI think most people have figured out that Morre is nothing but Michigan trailer trash
"When I look in the mirror, I say, 'He did not sell his soul for short-term politics.'" President George H.W. Bush, June 18, 2009
AP... Right you
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 18:14 ET by bigtimerAP...
Right you are...where is Carville when you need him?
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Outrage I say!
Sat, 06/20/2009 - 09:42 ET by ReaverThat is an insult to trailer trash nation wide not just in Michigan. For the record Moore is from Flint, MI. (The city whose gov. is talking about bulldozing large tracts of vacant land to make it more manageable, a new wrinkle on urban renewal) His current residence is a Manhattan townhouse apartment but he maintains a residence in Traverse City MI. to maintain his Michigan cred, lucky us. As far as films, I saw his first one, Roger & me because of it’s subject of the auto industry. The far left anti-capitalist theme came as no surprise, left wing and documentary almost being synonymous but as someone whose been around the area most of my life the degree of misinformation and outright falsehood was shocking to me. I think the best example I could give is the movie’s central theme, Moore running around with a camera and microphone trying to get then GM CEO Roger Smith to talk to him. I later learned that Smith did sit down for an interview but Moore didn’t use it when he decided it would be more entertaining to show him trying to duck him. Really says it all about his “documentaries” doesn’t it?
If stupidity got us into this mess,
then why can't it get us out?
--Will Rogers
typo in headline?
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 19:54 ET by konoMichael Moore's shtick? 'Shtick'?
Drop the last two letters and rearrange what's left, and you'll have a much more accurate characterization...
The consumate faker
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 20:10 ET by mike221bHe's a polemicist, not a documentarian. The former has no need of truth while the later makes an attempt. Also he's from Davison, not Detroit. As nasty as Detroit is there is no need to further disrespect Motown by suggesting Moore is from there or Flint for that matter.
KDW: fearless defender of Letterman & Moore to the bitter end
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 21:36 ET by SickofLibsHe's a modern day missionary, folks.
SoL... I know....amazing
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 21:41 ET by bigtimerSoL...
I know....amazing isn't it?
....but he can spin so well dontcha know.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
That picture makes him almost look normal
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 23:56 ET by ghblogHe actually looks sort of normal. What is unusual is that his mouth is closed. Once open, though he is one stupid guy, but he knows all about the auto industry because he is from Flint.
ghblog
http://www.framingthedialogue.com/archives/stupid-white-man/