Chris Matthews Omits Party Label of Prudish Congressmen Calling for Viagra Ad Censorship

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Chris Matthews just can't get it up. The Democratic Party label that is.

On the May 8 "Hardball", the MSNBC anchor noted in his Political Sideshow segment that  Reps. Jim Moran (Va.) and Bob Brady (Pa.), are up in arms about erectile dysfunction drug ads running on television and are sponsoring legislation before the House to ban television stations from running ads for drugs like Viagra and Cialis from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. The Democratic congressmen argue the ads are indecent for children. [get audio for download here]

While the legislation's premise seems prudish at worst and laughably silly at best, Matthews insisted that the congressmen, who are "regular guys" and "both friends of mine" were simply "looking out for the kids." All the same, he failed to give the Democratic Party credit for threatening the cold shower of government regulation on the drug commercials.

Oddly enough and also worth mentioning, just before reading this news item, Matthews shared with viewers that Michelle Obama has said her biggest thrill as First Lady was doing a PSA taping on the set of Sesame Street. Matthews then reminded viewers that it was President Barack Obama that "gave me my biggest thrill."


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"While the legislation's

"While the legislation's premise seems prudish at worst and laughably silly at best... " 

Okay, I'm expecting kudos for Ken from some of our liberal and moderate site police who usually criticize NB as being a bunch of prudes. As for me, I find these ads to be embarrassingly dorky - I mean - a bunch of middle aged dorks in a garage band playing "Viva Viagra"? Yeeeeesh...

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Yeah, the ads are cringe-inducingly awful...

...but that doesn't merit legislation.

If it did, Hardball could be legislated away.

Ken, I don't think anyone's

Ken, I don't think anyone's talking about legislating them away.  Just regulating the time of day they can be on.

Let's face it...they advertise, usually whent they think their target audience will be watching.  Their target audience will still  be there at 10 PM, only without the kids.  What's the harm in having them wait until then?

They might say "Wow, that sucks!"  But at least they'll say "Wow!"  -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes

I'm allergic to

I'm allergic to congressional meddling in commercial speech. I'm also for gun companies advertising on TV, ditto with hard liquor and tobacco.

 

Ken, Please don't think

Ken,

Please don't think I'm advocating for congressional action against bad commercials. If we did that, there would be very few commercials left on TV. I'm also of the view that advertising should not be restricted - it should always be assumed people have enough sense to make their own decisions without the help of government.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Viagra

The sad fact of all this is that Viagra defrays the cost for many of the other medicines we need. The drug companies have to produce a lot of drugs that aren't used very often, but when you need them you need them badly. Normally, that would make rare drugs ridiculuously expensive, but they cut down the costs because Viagra (and other "popular" medicines) defray the cost.

So, I don't mind the fact that they advertize. Just ... better ones, you know?

THE CLASH OF TITANS

 THE CLASH OF TITANS

Much has been made of the huge rapid gains in percentage of population made by islamists living in europe the past decade.
Let us go a bit further and assume that islam, in say 50 years, becomes a huge minority of American voters…say 15% or so.

Where does this put the national secular socialist movement (aka modern liberalism of democrats)?

What cultural clash must occur when one side is secular to the core while the other claims to follow the Koran?
When one side treats woman as retarded servants?
When one side is driven by its “modesty” of dress?
When one side prays on schedule daily?
When one side assumes non-believers are sick or bad or worse?
When both sides are relentless but one side can get billions from overseas oil-rich countries and is religiously motivated?
When one side promotes fornication and adultery via its movies?
When both sides mock christianity but one has deep roots in it?
When one side promotes homosexual marriage?
When one side has a reputation for very harsh justice shocking to the other?
When one side removes prayer from public schools as the other gets “prayer” time injected?
When on side uses its huge churches for political rants akin to what the black minority now does for the other?
When one side is terrified to offend the other even now (and has its trademark “minority guilt” thing)?

Now tell us these two can share power…go ahead, tell us.
Let Europe be watched very closely the next decade by all Americans.

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

they may not be "indecent"

they may not be "indecent" because they do try to be subtle, but Jeez, why should any parent have to explain to a 7 or 8-year old what "erectile dysfunction" is?

I thought it bad enough when I had to explain to my 9-year-old sons what tampons were for! This is a whole 'nother ball game!

Nothing is private any more.  We even have to put up with those idiots dancing and grabbing their behinds on the word "diarrhea" in the Pepto Bismol ads!

They might say "Wow, that sucks!"  But at least they'll say "Wow!"  -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes

mother: Had to laugh at

mother: Had to laugh at loud when you mentioned the Pepto commercial. Such a colorful description. :)

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

mb... I am so sick of

mb...

I am so sick of that commercial, it is embarrassing, (unless I guess you are the characters making a check off of it) but this is how low we have reduced ourselves to in this country.

Speaking of commercials, if I see one more Nutri-System ad, I am going to throw up....the repeated commercials are enough for anybody to lose weight.

 Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Sorry bt. I have to stick

Sorry bt. I have to stick up for Nutri-System. The Golic brothers are locals ya know. ;)

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

Oh NO...say it ain't

Oh NO...say it ain't so...I'm weeping here...you disagree with me?

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I recall the first time I saw...

... a "feminine hygiene product" commercial.  Something called Massengill (sp?), I think.

It was the late 70's.  My father spewed a Miller High Life halfway across the den.

Not because of the product so much, or the fact that it was on television, but by the fact that it was repeatedly mentioned that it was "disposable".

He didn't know that women kept them before this modern marvel came out.  Changed his life, I think. He was very quiet for a couple of days.

My mother locked in a weeklong blush.

Yet, the planet survived this public assault on unfragrant pudenda and rotates smoothly to this day.

I don't think I was scarred, either.

Chris, if your Thrill lasts

Chris, if your Thrill lasts for more then four hours, call Helen Thomas (see wilts rose buds).

LOL-My theory is that

LOL-My theory is that Reps.Moran & Brady tried Viagra and it didn'twork for them, so they are trying to get even with the company.

-Dave

The statists aren't coming, they are already here.

Respectfully, I disagree

Respectfully, I disagree that this is "prudish."  My wife and I cannot stand these commericials -- they are inane, and don't belong on air during prime time when children are watching.  We all know about Viagra -- I don't need to hear classic Elvis songs corrupted by their medication-marketing jingle.  I actually agree with Moran (D) on this one (and I think this is about the only thing I agree with him on).

 

"Let's wrap him up, alright?" -- Keith Olbermann

Re Respectfully

I agree. This is just another symptom of the degradation and crudification of our culture. Every year, advertisers and tv writers push the limits of what they can get away with. A Jay Leno monologue in 2009 would have caused NBC to lose their license in 1989.

I don't want laws against this stuff, but I want some sense of decency among the people in the business. And let's also ask why networks accept this kind of advertising during the day. They are a part of the transaction too.

lotr... We ditto that

lotr...

We ditto that here.

Another bill some House member was going to put up was the volume on the various commercials/stations...don't know if that is still on the ticket or been slid in...all I know is I hope this one passed.

Gawd I hate Govt. control, but that would be one we in this household would support...even though it was sponsored  by a dem...

The run for the remote when those commercials come on at ear-splitting volume are enough to make one go through the roof at times.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I only object to the use...

...Of the initials "E.D." (erectile dysfunction). 

Think of all the guys named Ed out there.  

That's just wrong.

They should simply call if "floppyschlong" or something.

 

I totally agree with

I totally agree with lotr.

Fans of unrestricted advertising like Mr. Shepherd ought to explain on what grounds they would object (if indeed they would object) to a prime-time commercial featuring a nude male demonstrating the effects of Viagra. If it's prudish to object to discussion of erectile disfunction in front of children, what's the big difference in showing it?

Viagra supports Katie Couric's show

What's amazing about Democrats wanting to ban ads for Viagra et al between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. is that Katie Couric would lose a significant portion of her ad revenue.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

How can

the party that promotes sex without consequences dare to deny the Constitutional right of a woody to our elder men?  It's age-ism I tell you!

 

<Snork at the 4 hour comment> 

If the omitted party was an 'R' I wonder what the outcry would be?  

ouch, ouch

It causes me mental pain, but I must back the Dems who are speaking out on this, at least a bit.

I remember, a few years ago, when there was flack a Monday Night Football bit, where Terrell Owens was "distracted" from the game when a Desperate Housewives floozy dropped her towel before him. I can't remember who is was that I was listening to a few days later (a stand-in for a regular talk show host), who made the case that, while he was someone who was all for the freedom of speech, in a case like that there where it was still a time for families to be watching, which means youths and children would see it, that doing something about such sexually gratuitous bits was not against free speech.

I think that at least some of the ED ads out there can fall in the same category. For example, anything involving Smiling Bob, whose ads are simply perverse.

I would be against any policy to completely ban such ads, but regulating them during times when children may be watching may not be unreasonable. If my understanding is correct, something similar is done with such things as condom ads.

 

"Thoroughly worldly people never understand even the world; they rely altogether on a few cynical maxims which are not true."

Chesterton, Orthodoxy 

This Is Why I Decided To Leave The Democratic Party

I think I'll get around to registering as an independent because I don't think Republicans are that much better anyway than Democrats, but this is a reason why I decided to leave the Democrat party. They want to censor the airwaves even more than the Republicans want to, whether it's with a Fairness Doctrine or  Jay Rockefeller (D) wanting to censor television because, oh boo-hoo-hoo, a child might hear someone saying the word "penis" or Janet Jackson might want to wear a piece of nipple jewelry!

As far as I'm concerend, anything should go in free speech, no matter how disgusting, vile or insulting it could possibly be. Fining broadcast networks is tantamount to punishing any other business by levying a tax on it.

liberty ~= anarchy

"As far as I'm concerend, anything should go in free speech, no matter how disgusting, vile or insulting it could possibly be."

Sorry, but you are mistaken.  As with all other matters social, there are boundaries of decorum, respect and courtesy when it comes to "free speech" in polite, civilized society.

Some here agree with Moran (D) that "erectile  dysfunction" jingles are not appropriate for children.  Some believe that Moran and folks like me are "prudish" for thinking this.  This is debatable among people of good will.  But we all must surely agree that there are, in fact, limits on what is socially appropriate and what is not.

 

"Let's wrap him up, alright?" -- Keith Olbermann

Ah! But there's the rub!

"...we all must surely agree that there are, in fact, limits on what is socially appropriate and what is not."

There isn't a snowball's chance that "we all" will agree on anything.

And handing censorship powers to anyone, even if it represents a majority of "we", is the fast track to hell.

What would be next on the "limit list".  Preparation H?  Feminine hygiene commercials?  Underarm deodorants?

How about books that have unsavory passages (no pun) in them?

When AIDS became a significant problem, I was subjected to far more information of an "ick" variety that I EVER wanted to know.  Yet, it was necessary for the health of the nation and the common good.

And this was in the Daily Fishwrap dumped on my morning doorstep.  

Children will survive a little exposure to a treatment for a medical problem, even if it is a bit embarrassing to explain that sometimes, some men have trouble with their, uh, man-tackle, and need a jumpstart.

It's when Billy Mays starts hawking "DongCrete" or whatever that I'm gettin' off the bus.

"And handing censorship

"And handing censorship powers to anyone, even if it represents a majority of "we", is the fast track to hell."

And how is that?  The last time I checked, this was called "democracy."  Sorry, but I cannot say it any more plainly than I did above -- that there are, in fact, limits on "free speech" in civilized society.  One cannot say whatever one wants whenever one wants, at least not without consequences, which is always what we are talking about when we refer to legislation.  Period.  That's the nature of the human beast.  "Censorship" refers to suppression of particular viewpoints.  Requiring commercial advertising on public airwaves to be age-appropriate doesn't qualify.

Children will survive a little exposure to a treatment for a medical problem

They shouldn't have to "survive" anything that they shouldn't have to.  Give me a break.  We're the freaking adults here.  The pharmacutical industry can survive delaying their lounge-lizard designer drug jingles till 10pm.

 

"Let's wrap him up, alright?" -- Keith Olbermann

This is a democratic republic

A pure democracy is no better than the socialism we rail about daily. 

Censorship should occur through the people, and their wallets. If enough people don't like how a business does...uh...business, then they will vote with their cash. That is how it should work. Very, and I mean very little legislation is enacted without miserable unintended consequences.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

So, it's "prudish" to want

So, it's "prudish" to want to protect children from being randomly sexualized?  I thought that was up to parents, and they apparently want to save the hardon ads for when the kids are asleep.  Sounds like good parenting to me.

I disagree that this is "censorship", as the ads are not being changed, only sensibly regulated to protect children watching television.

Ah, sensible regulation, one

Ah, sensible regulation, one of the favored phrases of Democrats.

Look, I agree that at times there can be some things government can do to ensure that some modicum of decency is preserved on the broadcast airwaves.

I just disagree that banning commercials for a drug that mentions erectile dysfunction or "four-hour erections" is one of them. It's not sexually graphic, it's a medical term.

And federal law requires disclaimers on these ads. If the beef is with the disclaimer, then change the law to take out all disclaimers but to make viewers aware of where to read them online.

"If the beef is with the

"If the beef is with the disclaimer..."

Ha! Good one Ken. :)

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

To me, the last group of

To me, the last group of people who should be stating that they are "just doing it for the children' should be anyone connected to the democrats.

Hey dem representatives, don't go getting all sanctimonious on us about 'the children'. It kinda sounds a little hollow.  When you vote session in and session out to kill millions of them before they are born. 

Hear, hear!

Hear, hear!

 and put them so far into

 and put them so far into debt that they never have a chance...

 

Enforce Term Limits if They Won't:  Vote Against ALL Incumbents in 2010.

Save the children

Mathews did lable them after reffering to both gentelmen as his friends.  They also used a "save" the children tactic which is straight out of the democrat play book.  Honestly what else could these guys be?

Ummm...

Fascists?

Ad agencies

 haven't put out anything "decent" since the 60's.....they now push the limits on everything from cartoons to commercials, wonder why it's called an idiot box (?)

P.S. I love the show "madmen"...cigarettes and all !!!!!

 

 

 

 

" The Future Is X Rated"

Is that a zit? EWWWWWW!!!!

As long as we're going to restrict the access to "family hour" prime time TV ads for vanity products like Viagra, can't we also limit the airing of commercial products like Proactive? I. for one, don't want our young children to be exposed to the possibility that they, too, may have to suffer with acne someday. I also don't want them to know that acne is considered unsightly when they're in their teens and adulthood. Besides, who wants to see a bunch of teenagers with Zits! EWWWW! That's NOT appropriate for family hour!

Oh, and we should stop advertising such products as the Thigh Master (anyone remember that one? lol), diet pills, underwear ads, makeup, hair dyes, and any other vanity product that just may expose our young children to the realities of adulthood. I mean, really, that's just plain wrong!

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Funny, Cobra. (sarc off)

Funny, Cobra. (sarc off) I'm with you on the Thigh Master though - or anything else that Suzanne Sommers is hawking.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

Were you able to get a

Were you able to get a refund ?

and I thought the GOP was

and I thought the GOP was supposed to be the party of a bunch of old stiffs (pun intended).....

 

Enforce Term Limits if They Won't:  Vote Against ALL Incumbents in 2010.

Anyone remember this? 

Anyone remember this?  Back in the sixties they had Playtex commercials on TV.  They had to show the bras over the womans sweater, I figure it was 1966 or 67 I was ten or eleven years old, and I was sitting pn the living room floor when one of these commercials came on, my Aunt was standing right behind me, she reached down and covered my eyes with her hands!  She diidn't want me to have anything to do with seeing a commercial like that.

Of course from that point on I did want to see a commerical like that, just because she did that.  But I reckon that's human nature.

Just a reminder for you.

Mr. Matthews is not afraid to dispaly his bias.  Here is one of my favorite quotes from him:

“The only politician I know who can write is Barack Obama.”

What a buffoon.

"Not for fame or reward, not for place or rank, not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity.  But in simple obedience to duty." - From the barracks at Ft. Benning

there are ways

to have commercial free television viewing.   None of which require legislation.

Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall

dual bath tubs

The Viagra ads, are pretty lame, but those Cialis commercials with the dual bath tubs on the beach and other scenic locations are really weird.

We expect TV commercials to be in good taste all of a sudden?

I guess when the dildo commercials become commonplace we'll ho-hum that as well.

Seriously, what is there left to shock us?

I believe that if one looks at how the airwaves have increasingly been filled with what was once considered improper over the decades, it coincides squarely with the rise of Leftist values (such as they are)-you know, the typical Communist disdain for the family and the attacks on what they consider to be Victorian-Edwardian social norms concerning what children and even adults should be exposed to (and, of course, how they should be treated...look no further than Dr. Spock on that one).

We have been taught to laugh at and despise the decorum and proprieties of the 1950s, because this is when the little brats grew up and later felt guilty that the average Vietnamese kid didn't have what they had...and then said the hell with it and snorted coke and danced at Studio 54 'til the wee hours of the morning...and then retired and realized they may not live to see the Socialist Utopia come about (more guilt).

All along the way though, they've been extolling the virtues of Communism in all that they do...while making sure they get theirs first and foremost of course.  Conservatives rarely become pop music stars, actors, journalists, playwrights, screenwriters, etc. especially since the '60s.

Do such things come about because of the increasing cynicism of our society, or does the cynicism come about because of the acceptance of such things?  They probably feed off of each other.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).