"...i know i'm a journalist, and i should be objective...but she is an ignorant discrace and she makes me sick to my stomach," E! News anchor and managing editor Giuliana Rancic wrote on her Twitter page at 10:01 a.m. EDT today. Rancic of course was referring to Carrie Prejean, who in the interview portion of the Miss USA contest on Sunday evening gave a defense of traditional marriage that riled openly gay contest judge and gossip blogger Perez Hilton.
Rancic later clarified her earlier remarks in a Tweet a few minutes later:
sorry i wasn't clear...i was referring to miss california as a disgrace. life is short. everyone deserves to love & be loved.
The E! network journalist appears to be cribbing from that great philosopher Miley Cyrus, who on April 20 declared:
@perezhilton i believe that EVERYONE deserves to be happy. thats all im saying ;)
While writing this, Rancic added another Tweet (at about 10:30 a.m.), so this is only bound to keep going for a while:
Miss cali said "I THINK that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman." She's not even sure what she believes! If u...
...if u are going to state something u believe in, then say it with conviction. otherwise, how can we respect ur so-called "beliefs?"





















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First we were told, "You
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 09:43 ET by KevroyFirst we were told, "You need to respect other beliefs". Now we are being told that we must not only EMBRACE those beliefs, we must support them 100% or we are ignorant haters.
Respect beliefs?
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:00 ET by moderncommentaries83How about respecting our beliefs? Hilton certainly didn't respect Prejean's belief that marriage is between one man, one woman...nor does he respect the beliefs of the Californians who voted for Prop. 8 and the beliefs of the other voters across the nation who voted similarly.
Instead, they go to the courts so activist judges can overturn our beliefs.
But we're supposed to respect them.
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam
Open warfare
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 11:11 ET by ThisnThatThe queer group has never been about "equal rights". For years they have not-so-secretly been about "their rights", and only their "rights". There are queer books, written decades ago, telling us exactly how and why they wanted to attack and take over the positions of "straight" people. Their plans included details on how to approach various classes of individuals -- family, friends, etc. Many of these books include forwards, written by Barney Frank, supporting their positions.
And now they think they have reached critical mass, in the courts, in state legislatures, in the MSM, with the liberal political class. And they are implementing those well-laid plans to take over our culture. NOT to integrate within our culture -- but to take it over.
You're seeing the results. We are too frightened to stand up for our rights. Because we "have to be tolerant and understanding" and besides "what does it matter what one does in the bedroom?'
What does it matter? -- you're finding out.
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That's right. They are
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:53 ET by MozillaThat's right. They are treading on our beliefs. Freedom of speech is under attack. I don't mind opposing views, but I do mind when they tell me what to think. I can do what I want and think what I think is right. They can do what they want. But the MSM can't change my belief in traditional marriage being between a man and a woman. This is what Bill O has called a Culture war. The fact is many people believe like us or states like California and Texas and Kansas wouldn't pass and vote for upholding marriage as being between a man and a woman. So the msm's attempt to tell us what to think is an attempt to invade our thoughts and beliefs. Mind Control is not a good thing. We have a right to stand up for our thoughts and voice our opinions. Miss California is a nice wonderful woman and she had a right to say what she felt. Miss California is a good person unlike some who want to just trash people they disagree with. I think Miss California represents Freedom of speech in that she can say what she wants when asked a question about gay marriage. She doesn't have to say what other people want to hear.
It just fits
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:35 ET by Paul Atreideswe are told that being tolerant of other religions means that they can teach their theology in public schools but Christians cannot; they can talk about their doctrine until the cows come home but don't "offend" them by mentioning Jesus; they are allowed to murder women and homosexuals and get a pass but if we just say that homosexuality and abortion is wrong then we are right up there with Hitler.
Respect on command?
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 22:46 ET by klchadwickPerez Hilton (aka. Mario Armando Lavandeira, Jr.) wants to have his cake and eat it too. It is an impossible feat for those whom he expects to find a way for him to be able to this, yet it is easy for him to state his own solution to the problem....one in which he was not asked for his input. How did Mario manage to come across in this manner? He did so by stating that he wished that she had left 'her politics' and 'her religion' out of her answer, while asking her a very loaded question.
I think that anyone who has ever heard of Mario, read his blogs or seen him screaming his opinion at the top of his lungs knows that to him there was one and only one correct answer to that question. The only answer that he wanted to hear was that Miss California (who represents ALL Californians, key word ALL) thought that gay marriage should be a given in every state, without doubt attached. What a coup it would have been if he could have gotten the girl that is a representative of her ENTIRE state, to say that she believed gay marriage was the right thing for everyone especially given the fact that her state is the one that has been battling the legalities of this very subject for so long.
I think that Mario saw Miss California as the PERFECT propaganda tool in light of last year's Proposition 8 voting controversy and the fact that litigation is still ongoing regarding this very subject. I mean, if you can get the hometown girl next door who is supposed to be a mantle of the state, to say that gay marriage should be allowed the question would then be asked...why should ANYONE object? No, unfortunately Miss California has principles which she did not compromise for a crown and a title. She is secure enough in her own skin to not make an attempt at being someone else in order to please the populist crowd...which really ISN'T that populist in CA after all. If it was, then Prop 8 would have been defeated and that would have been in end, well the end in CA at least and it would have set precedent elsewhere.
I think that is it is a shame that Mario (who apparently isn't that comfortable in his own name, much less his own skin) can't respect an individual's right to their own beliefs and opinions if they contradict with his own. I also think that it is ridiculous to ask a question which is steeped in religious morals and political controversy and then say that one's own religion and politics should be kept out of an answer at the risk of 'alienating' others. The fact is, no matter how Miss California elucidated her answer she would have "offended" or "alienated" a cross section of the population. State yes, gay marriage should be allowed in all states and offense will be taken by moderates, evangelicals and those that identify themselves as religious. State no, gay marriage should not be allowed, the definition should remain traditional in nature and a majority of the gay population plus the liberal and populist sectors will be offended. And worst of all, answer the question as Mario suggested (48 hours after the fact) that the decision should remain on the state level and accusations of political posturing, political correctness and populist mentality will be thrown...and would have stuck as well because that wouldn't have been an answer at all, at least not as the question was phrased.
So either way you have it a yes or no answer would have offended in a religious and/or political manner. The only solution that I believe Miss California had to this quandary was to answer the question, as asked, to the best of her ability while staying true to herself in the end. Who would you rather represent you....a lying populist or an honest black sheep? I would take the honest black sheep any day. I am not a fan of Mario's. I am not a watcher of the Miss USA competition (or other pageants for that matter), avid or otherwise. Honestly I am one of those chicks that really still doesn't know the difference between Miss USA, Miss America or any other Miss...in fact the only differentiating factor that I know of comes into play when you add the Mrs. in front of the title rather than the Miss. I claim complete ignorance on the matter of this type of competition, not even knowing that one was being held at the time...the only reason this one came to my attention was due to the fact of this absurd "controversy". That being said, even though I am not a Mario fan or a Miss-Whatever watcher, I do have an opinion on the behavior exhibited by both judge and competitor in this case.
I believe that the competitor's answer should be taken in the spirit in which it was intended....an honest answer a loaded question on a hot button subject. I believe her kept her dignity and maintained her poise throughout, even going so far as to apologize to any that might have been offended at her candor. On the other end of the spectrum I believe that Mario used a harmless beauty pageant as a vehicle to further his own beliefs and causes and more importantly to create and stir controversy which is his stock in trade. I am sure that his web site is booming following this incident and of course a booming site equals more advertising dollars and more publicity for himself.
Not only was it despicable behavior on Mario's part to promote his own personal agenda in a forum such as this, but I find it absolutely disgusting that he would insult, degrade and smear ANY individual for being honest in their answer, no matter how unpopular that stance may be. I congratulate Miss California for a job well done throughout, but more importantly I have enormous respect for Carrie Prejean...the girl without the tiara and sash, for maintaining her self respect and not wavering from her values in the process.
kich... Amen to all of
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 22:54 ET by bigtimerkich...
Amen to all of your well done, succinct post...I could not agree more...plus you filled me in on some more info about Mario, whom I had never heard of until this controversy.
My thanks.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
LOL
Sun, 04/26/2009 - 21:34 ET by klchadwicklol. I'm not ashamed to admit that I am one of those people that will read the tabloids while standing in line at the grocery store, but won't buy them. However, if someone else buys them and they happen to sitting around, once again, I'll pick it up!
How are we supposed to keep track of "Batboy's" latest exploits otherwise? ;0) That is the category that I deem appropriate for the likes of Mario....
http://politicaldesert.wordpress.com
The majority of American's
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 09:49 ET by AcrosThe majority of American's agree with Miss California and the gay communites want this marriage thing to be forced upon everyone even if you disagree. That is what you call disgracful.
"...i know i'm a journalist
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 09:50 ET by Paul AtreidesThat title has as much meaning as "Nobel Peace Prizer Winner" and "Knighthood" these days.
How can a no-name dipshit
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:30 ET by TheConservativeChemistHow can a no-name dipshit on the fucking *E* network who's job is to talk about phony Americans (aka celebreties) who gorge at the trough of freedom and opportunity that is America while contributing nothing to it, call herself a journalist with a straight face?
Although calling yourself a journalist these days is like bragging about being a degenerate...
gratuitous, but...
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 09:51 ET by SickofLibsRancid is somewhat jealous of Perez; he was blessed with breasts.
But "I'm a journalist"? Too rich!
I JUST HAD TO LOGIN
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:07 ET by MillerTimeWarpafter reading your reply - Too Freakin FUNNY ! ! !
The E network ? Is that on cable ? Come on !
This is why you will NEVER
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:28 ET by SickofLibsThis is why you will NEVER see Rancid from the back - she has twin skegs and a 6-ft. RonJon leash hanging off what should be her ass.
If you're going to call yourself a journalist
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 09:53 ET by Paul AtreidesMiss cali said "I THINK that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman." She's not even sure what she believes! If u... ...if u are going to state something u believe in, then say it with conviction. otherwise, how can we respect ur so-called "beliefs?"
Then say it in complete words, otherwise, how can we believe your so-called "journalism?"
The left will never respect
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:00 ET by misterbee241The left will never respect our beliefs unless ours becomes theirs.
"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."
Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941
Another disgraceful incident for the left
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 09:54 ET by krendlerMiss America contestents now being judged for the "correctness" of their answers to politically charged questions. She gave the "wrong answer" according to the judge who asked the question, Perez Hilton, saying that it absolutely was the reason she lost.
The thought police at work.
Whether you agree with the woman's position or not, props to her for having the GUTS to state her true beliefs, consequences be damned.
So how come these fascists aren't slamming Obama for giving the "wrong" answer?
Stop twirling your hair, and put the gum down
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 09:56 ET by KC MulvilleThese gay advocates are trying to accomplish through outrage what they can't achieve through political means. It's posing instead of argument. This is little more than media peer pressure, and the only people it works on are young people, who don't know any better. That's what they focus on: young people, because teenagers don't know any better.
KC
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:17 ET by ozarkapeAre you saying that an 18 year old kid who has been provided for his entire life,who has never had to earn a nickel to support himself shouldn't have the right to vote on the direction the country should take? If so I agree.
No one respects the blue collar until their car breaks down[somethin like that-------Larry the cable guy
It's an adult job
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:36 ET by KC MulvilleFreedom means you can vote for anyone, for whatever reason you want, no matter how stupid it might be. And although I'm tempted to require a minimal IQ test, I still prefer freedom to anyone's private view of what's acceptable, even if it's my private view. I can't demand that 18 year olds vote intelligently, but I can hope for it, and work to persuade them so that they can choose it for themselves. The problem is that 18 year olds are persuaded much more by perceptions of group approval, and they can be manipulated to believe lies about what the group approves of.They need to learn skepticism. The media pushes belief in media authority. It's a tough sell for us, but where does it say that parenting is supposed to be easy?
Gays and issues
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:15 ET by Peter-in-NYCFirst, I don't care about gay rights either way. If someone is gay, good for them.
But what bothers me is that I've been called "homophobic" on the streets of NYC. Someone stopped me with clipboard in hand, "do you have a second for gay rights?"
I said, "only if you have a second to hear me out on gun rights?"
The response, "guns kill people."
My reply, "then no I don't."
As I walk away I hear, "you are a homophobic gun nut, I hope you shoot yourself in the head."
Lovely. I need to get out of this city!
Validation
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 09:59 ET by doug1950The homosexual "community" has been seeking validation for their lifestyle for decades and "marriage" appears to be the avenue they are trying for. If they can accomplish this than they will "believe" the rest of the world finds their repugnant behavior acceptable. It will never happen, in fact this kind of event only shows and illustrates the militant underbelly of the "gays". I certainly do not know why they chose that word, they are the most unhappy people on planet Earth and have the highest incidence of suicide of any group. Apparently, even they can't stand to live with the abhorrent lifestyle either. I don't hate them, just do not agree with them and never will. For the Miss USA contest to have Hilton on as a judge shows just how far out in left field most old institutes have strayed.
Doug
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:43 ET by BlondeDoes this mean the Steel Magnolia will know what kind of ties they wear now?
I still laugh at that, now that I have a corollary to my "epitome of assholery" story.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:12 ET by doug1950lol...I don't think so. I believe she was as confused as I am about that choice of lifestyle and that is why she sought help in her quest for what "one" would wear. It is certain she at least believed in her heart it would not be "mainstream" type of attire; perhaps a little more "flamboyant" in cut, color and style...if you get my drift. We still laugh about it here too, especially about me being caught completely off-guard and my efforts to make her understand I had no idea and my voice as deep as humanly possible, just so she was clear on my particular bent. No room for question there. Good to laugh about it now. thanks!
Ms CA
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:02 ET by greghansonLet's see, attacks on Palin + Attacks on TEA Party participants + attacks on returning war veterans + attacks on Miss CA, is there a pattern here or what? Essentially, the left has decided that the real enemy is the American people. This has actually been going on for a long time, but now it is by far more out in the open, and in your face. Hopefully, more and more people who didn't believe it are starting to see it for themselves.
Does anyone doubt
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:30 ET by Paul Atreidesthat the left would be opposed to waterboarding if it came to using it to extract information from an abortion clinic bomber?
No, there is no doubt. Nor
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:34 ET by MrSnugglesNo, there is no doubt. Nor is there any doubt that the left would be vehemently anti-abortion if gay fetuses* were being aborted every day.
*That is, assuming the imaginary "gay gene" was one day found and there was a way to know if your unborn child carried that gene.
"1984"
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:39 ET by Carl KolchakIt's like the two minute hate speeches from "1984" when everyone screams at Goldstein. The left now seems to have two minute hate speeches for anyone who doesn't worship their left wing politics or says answers that pleases them. Palin and Miss California will probably have their pictures all over left wing sites and the viewers scream hateful slogans at those pictures.
Speaking of 1984
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:13 ET by Paul AtreidesIt was only after a decade of national wars, civil wars, revolutions, and counter-revolutions in all parts of the world that Ingsoc and its rivals emerged as fully worked-out political theories. But they had been foreshadowed by the various systems, generally called totalitarian, which had appeared earlier in the century, and the main outlines of the world which would emerge from the prevailing chaos had long been obvious. What kind of people would control this world had been equally obvious. The new aristocracy was made up for the most part of bureaucrats, scientists, technicians, trade-union organizers, publicity experts, sociologists, teachers, journalists, and professional politicians.
I thought that this was interesting since Orwell was a socialist.
It is a culture war that
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:30 ET by MozillaIt is a culture war that the left wants. The fact is Prez Hilton being a judge was a mistake. His question was loaded and unfair because as was proven as soon as he didn't get the answer he wanted...he had to cry about it and voted against Miss California. One could then make the case she was robbed of the crown unfairly and unjustly. She did nothing wrong. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves. This country was founded on respecting different views and having different people. Same thing happened with Sarah Palin and this is the same MSM and liberal crowd that is passing off Meghan McCain as a spokesperson for the conservatives when she does not speak for us and we don't want her. They can't tell us what to think and since their leader is Obama then there needs no further proof why people at Notre Dame are protesting him and the Tea Party Protests have begun. Add to it Obama's stances on religion and his policies and you see what we have... a culture war on America.
Oh Those Pesky Definitions!
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:05 ET by CGatton"Miss cali said "I THINK that I believe ..." She's not even sure what she believes! ... "
Yessir, a true practitioner of the art of linguistic usage [Rancic]. How could she [Prejean] have thought the word "think" might mean "believe?"
Well duh, oh typically ignorant journalist, who is incapable of spelling those words which are the nemesis of texters, tweeters, and twitters, such as "you," or "your," how about Webster, of the infamous duo, Merriam-Webster. Let's see now - oh yes -
Think : to have as an opinion : BELIEVE - "think." Webster's Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged. Merriam-Webster, 2002. http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com ( 21 Apr. 2009).
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
The left's latest and most
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:10 ET by snaggletoothiePerez Hilton, the left's latest and most valued expert on politics. Before long they'll be wishing they could climb back into the gutter. (And why no teabagging jokes from Olbermann and Cooper?).
a matter of time
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:17 ET by sevensome gay will sue to be allowed to enter a beauty pagaent for ladies.
And the courts will allow
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 11:15 ET by ThisnThatAnd the courts will allow it. I have no doubt, there.
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
This close enough?
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 11:54 ET by SickofLibsThis close enough?
Yet another case of telling
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:32 ET by ThisnThatYet another case of telling us that we, of course, are all completely wrong: "We want to redefine what beauty is," said executive producer Ken Mok
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
What I'd like to know
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:14 ET by RowaneWhat I'd like to know is, why in hell is a homo judging the Miss America contest? Makes no sense to me.
Dick Clark
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:20 ET by MillerTimeWarpwas busy. Doin his latest gig as an auctioneer.
Yeah, I thought all butt pirate judges were on the Food Network.
judges
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:38 ET by SickofLibsWarp, I guess unlike me, you're not "lucky" enough not to have a 24/7 homosexual channel eating up bandwidth in your cable lineup...
RuPaul's Drag Race
undemocratic
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:36 ET by ozarkapeHow undemocratic of you. Why I'll bet you evan think a dog shouldn't judge a Miss Feline contest.
No one respects the blue collar until their car breaks down[somethin like that]-------Larry the cable guy
Re Why a homo judge
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 11:32 ET by slickwillie2001That was my first question of course. It's possible that they saw this kind of controversy as likely and welcomed it because that's their politics. It's like inviting someone like Sean Penn to give an award; you can be pretty sure that politics will come up.
If they didn't foresee this happening, then they are brain dead.
first it's not the Miss
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 21:33 ET by red_dragon311first it's not the Miss America....it's Ms USA.....
difference...hotter slutier women
and you are right who's a better judge of hot women ...a gay man
FINALY A REAL CANDIATE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!
http://zod2008.com/index.htm
The definition
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:19 ET by BGStinsonFascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
I guess we are going to have to re-write the 1st amendment:
Freedom of speech (as long as you say what they want to hear); freedom of religion (as long as it does not hurt their feelings or cramp their lifestyle).
Why don't you go to Venezuela where that kinder, gentler, Hugo Chavez treats gays like trash and persecutes them. We live in the greatest country on earth and, yet, the left will not be happy until we are on the same level as Cuba and Venezuela or even North Korea.
Wake up!!
Barry Stinson
Speaks perfect Klingon....
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:33 ET by acumenFrom Giuliana's Bio - "Born in Naples, Italy, Giuliana first realized her dreams of becoming a television journalist at age seven, after moving to Washington, D.C. with her family. Unable to afford a tutor, she learned English by watching television ......."
Evidently, English wasn't the only thing Giuliana learned from the Teletubbies.
My Stance...
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:52 ET by ShanghaiRayon the subject is that 1) I'm not gay so I'm no expert on gay advocacy or gay rights, 2) almost any type of sex between consenting adults should not be anyone's business (therefore, if gays enjoy what they do, leave them alone), 3) firmly believe in majority rule at the ballot box. In other words, until the majority of Americans in each individual State believe that gay marriage should be allowed then it shouldn't, 4) personally I will never agree to gay marriage and 5) Court should keep their noses out of the legislative affairs of the American people and rule on existing laws implemented by our chosen Legislatures and not make up laws on their own and that any Judge who dares strike down a legitimate law voted affirmatively by the majority of any State Legislature or via referendum of the people should be immediately impeached and thrown off the bench.
Rancic is NOT a journalist
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 10:56 ET by Ozark_SunshineHe's an idiot who can't even spell disgrace. His head is so far up his own backside that he can't even see truth and yet the hypocritical liar has the gall to badmouth a Christian. See how intolerant these liars are.
She Don't Make Me Sick to My Stomach'
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 11:02 ET by Nearly NobodyWhy are conservative women so dang hot?
"Nearly Nobody's News"
it's
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:44 ET by katainkentthe lack of permanent snarl, for starters.
I love to help the helpless but I'm not gonna help the clueless ~Dennis Miller
Rancic should zip it
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:19 ET by ConservativeMissourianSo had Ms. Prejean said what she said with conviction than Rancic would not be twittering about her and everyone else would be leaving her alone right now? I don't think so! It's not about respecting her position; no one would be doing that no matter how she answered the question.
Rancic should zip it
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:22 ET by ConservativeMissourianSo had Ms. Prejean said what she said with conviction then Rancic would not be twittering about her and everyone else would be leaving her alone right now? I don't think so! It's not about respecting her position; no one would be doing that no matter how confidently she answered the question.
Exactly, this is merely the
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:36 ET by MrSnugglesExactly, this is merely the personal attack that leftists always revert to. There is no substance to what they say.
Since when does anyone care
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:28 ET by StewMcKinSince when does anyone care about beauty contests? Are they still on TV? I'm a straight man who is in favor of gay marriage, and I couldn't care any less about this. Where is the controversy? Perez Hilton? The gossip website? Seriously, don't waste another type stroke on this story. Kill it.
The story Stew
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:40 ET by BlondeSince you are so shallow as to refuse see it, or are posing as if there isn't one, is that an extremely public virulent mysoginist attack by a vigilante gay activist against a beauty contestant, for her voicing her own personal beliefs (which just happen to be in the majority in her own state, BTW, as of November 4, 2008) is not only okay with the MsM, it is being papered over as well. See Julie Chen blog post here.
The point of this site, Stew, is exposing liberal media bias. Or did you miss that part?
The media is complicit in an attack on a private citizen, yet again, by the lunatic left. Is that clear enough for you?
If not, you are dismissed.
I hope he fails, too.
let me explain his position B
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:47 ET by candanceWhen they publicly crucified a beauty queen, I didn't care because I wasn't a beauty queen.
Wow - you are incredibly
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:50 ET by StewMcKinWow - you are incredibly rude. I won't waste my time with a response.
*counts the reponses*
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:57 ET by katainkent-
Perhaps you were wrong in your assumption. This IS a story
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:21 ET by pahuberbecause it illustrates what is indeed happening in our culture. You should care... that is the problem.
Wow - you are incredibly
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:50 ET by StewMcKinWow - you are incredibly rude. I won't waste my time with a response.
Of course not
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:08 ET by BlondeYour lack of a cogent response, as well as your knee-jerk attack at me for pointing out your hypocricy, suprises me not in the least. Leftists always have a difficult time dealing in facts.
Alas, I pegged you the first time I saw you post, Stew.
We need a better class of troll, here. ©
I hope he fails, too.
Well, color you "helpless", Blonde
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:35 ET by SickofLibsWow, lil Stew actually has a public enemies list in his profile, and you're the only one on it, B.
Congrats, and let us know what the qualifications are.
LOL
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:44 ET by katainkentthat is the best!
I love to help the helpless but I'm not gonna help the clueless ~Dennis Miller
~Poor tormented guttermouth
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:46 ET by choselife3xThat high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
~chose
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:51 ET by sherylsimsIs Stew McKin Guttermouth?
Oh my, SoL
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:06 ET by BlondeHmmm....qualifications.
That I kicked the stupid troll to the curb in one of its prior iterations, I should think.
Who could it be? The possibilities are endless. As for Stew, though, I have my suspicions.
Thanks for the heads up, SoL....you made my day!
I hope he fails, too.
~Question for you, Stew
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:08 ET by choselife3xWas this rude? How about this?
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Yes
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:13 ET by general companyDisgusting in fact,,,I know you were not asking me, but I thought you might want a sane view as well
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Yes, both. You know what
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:16 ET by StewMcKinYes, both. You know what you're getting out of this? Tons and tons of hits on Hilton's website, which mean more advertising revenue for him. Is that what all the hype is trying to accomplish?
~What I'M getting out of this?
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:24 ET by choselife3xI'd say...nausea.
Another thought. Do you see any 'right-wingers' cursing publicly at proponents of gay marriage? If yes, please supply link.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Aside from the members of
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:52 ET by StewMcKinAside from the members of this site? Is it the cursing that bothers you? Is it the forum at which they're speaking? It must be the cursing, because there are plenty of personal attacks on both side of this argument.
let's break this down Stew
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:02 ET by candancePlease link to an example of someone endorsing gay marriage - and then bullies on the right who called them out by name with personal attacks and went on network TV to bash them without the network giving them a chance to defend themselves.
Look, I already agreed that
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:10 ET by StewMcKinLook, I already agreed that it was wrong and rude for both Hilton (who I can't stand) and E's (a network I can't stand to watch) Rancic to make the comments they did. My one and only point is that as this BS continues to grow, it's only benefitting those who made the negative/derogatory comments. It sure ain't gonna give Miss Cali the crown.
~And MY one and only point
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:24 ET by choselife3xIs that you don't see any public conservative figures cursing those they disagree with. Much less in the kind of numbers we see from the left. Do you dispute this? And if so, can you back it up?
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Before I can respond, please
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:41 ET by StewMcKinBefore I can respond, please clarify: Is it the cursing/swearing part that bothers you, or is it the outspokenness of a queen who runs the most popular gossip site on the web? Are there more public attacks from the left than from the right? I would have to say so. Reason being that they're the ones fighting for something they want. The conservatives for the most part already have what they want when it comes to gay marriage - it's illegal in 46 of 50 states at the moment.
~It is the open vitriol
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 15:03 ET by choselife3xDisplayed by the left that bothers me.
Reason being that they're the ones fighting for something they want.
Show me an example of a conservative public figure cursing and reviling someone simply for respectfully stating their honest opinion, or admit that you are defending a bunch of foul-mouthed, classless dirtballs.
JANEANE GAROFALO: Thank you. You know, there's nothing more interesting
than seeing a bunch of racists become confused and angry at a speech
they're not quite certain what he's saying. It sounds right and then it
doesn't make sense. Which, let's be very honest about what this is
about. It's not about bashing Democrats, it's not about taxes, they
have no idea what the Boston tea party was about, they don't know their
history at all. This is about hating a black man in the White House.
This is racism straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of teabagging
rednecks. And there is no way around that. And you know, you can tell
these type of right wingers anything and they'll believe it, except the
truth. You tell them the truth and they become -- it's like showing
Frankenstein's monster fire. They become confused, and angry and highly
volatile. That guy, causing them feelings they don't know, because
their limbic brain, we've discussed this before, the limbic brain
inside a right-winger or Republican or conservative or your average
white power activist, the limbic brain is much larger in their head
space than in a reasonable person, and it's pushing against the frontal
lobe. So their synapses are misfiring.
On a video blog on his website Hilton said, “She lost not because she
doesn’t believe in gay marriage, she lost because she’s a dumb bitch!”
Now give a straight answer, guttermouth.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
You mean like Dick Morris
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 15:29 ET by StewMcKinYou mean like Dick Morris here:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/03/dick-morris-slaps-d...
Why are you calling me a gutter mouth? Did I use some sort of offensive language?
Welcome back guttermouth
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 15:34 ET by Free StinkerWelcome back guttermouth!
So, I see you managed to create a new account with a new name to sneak back in here.
Why are you liberals obsessed with Newsbusters?
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
~Lookit 'im playin' innocent
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:06 ET by choselife3xAin't he cuuuute....
It sure has been fun watching gutter creep around the site trying to stay below the radar.
"Anybody with a brain, which does not include your co-host" says Dick Morris. Wow, that is one vicious dude!! And he said it to his face, too. Didn't even have the decency to attack him from a safe distance. I can totally see how that is way worse than calling an honest, polite pageant contestant "stupid b!tch" or calling thousands of peaceful protesters "teabagging rednecks".
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
You've seen the video. He
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:16 ET by StewMcKinYou've seen the video. He was screaming out of control. Complete overreaction. But you're right. You conservatives are always right, 100% right about everything. Does that make you feel better? ALL conservatives are always, all liberals are ALWAYS wrong.
~Excuse me, I'm laughing out of control
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:27 ET by choselife3xThis is what you call screaming out of control?
As opposed to, say, this?
This is nice. You're a racist teabagger, and if you're not white you've got Stockholm Syndrome. Wow.
When will you learn to form a decent argument, guttermouth?
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Yeah, chose...
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:58 ET by JerYeah, chose...
Perez's words were offensive, but that first comment to the video blog you linked was more than a match for his ineloquence.
By the way, I would suggest Ted Nugent enjoys a greater "celebrity" status than Perez. Check out this display of rhetorical brilliance [which I believe Sean Hannity has defended.]
Jer
~I didn't read the comments
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 17:10 ET by choselife3xAre they being broadcast on the major networks? Did Julie Chen interview that commenter?
If "stupid bitch" and the "c" word are what you call "ineloquence" I certainly hope you never curse around me!
I never heard of Ted Nugent till last week.
chose...
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 19:09 ET by JerHopefully I can get this posted before my computer freezes up again. So, some quick points:
--I wasn't reading the comments either. At the time it was at the top (right under the video and hard to miss.) It read [edited for taste]: you're a f*cking homo perez, go suck a c*ck. that'll make you happier. FAG*OT And then: I seriously hope this guy dies from AIDS to the eyeballs....Or how about U f*cking gay fag*ot. But let me be clear. I'm not defending Hilton. Indeed several gay and lesbian commenters strongly criticized him.
--I doubt Chen could interview the commenter or even find him (or her). But Michael Bates devoted an entire blog here about three weeks ago to a lib website commenter's offensive remark concerning Palin. So I assume they are fair game.
--I had only watched and was referring to Hilton's video blog, in which he said nothing about the "c" word. Furthermore, you are ignoring the fact that I described his terminology ("dumb bit*h") as not simply ineloquent but offensive.
--Never heard of Nugent until last week? Dear me...you need to put down "War and Peace" and lower your cultural tastes. :-) If it's any consolation, I had never heard of Perez Hilton until today.
Jer
~Lucky, lucky Jer
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 19:24 ET by choselife3xWould I be correct in thinking that Julie Chen would not interview Ted Nugent on the morning show? Especially for calling a young woman a 'dumb b!tch? But because a gay liberal did it the MSM is cool with it. Awesome. Play that freaky gay card, white boy! *grin*
My issue is the double standard applied by pop culture/MSM here. If a straight man called a contestant 'D-B' and the "C" word for saying that gays should be able to marry the sh!itstorm would be epic.
I'm not playing cards of
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 19:38 ET by JerI'm not playing cards of any kind. I'm simply making two points:
1. There's plenty of vile, offensive language from all directions on the political compass, and
2. I responded to your earlier challenge to name "any public conservative figure cursing those they disagree with." The challenge was met successfully. [And Nugent--who has been interviewed dozens of times, and whose incendiary remarks have been consistently defended by Hannity--is much more of a celebrity than Perez Hilton ever was or will be.]
Jer
~My freaky gay card reference
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 19:50 ET by choselife3xWas directed at Hilton. I haven't watched the video yet because the girls were in the room. But, were Nugent's remarks approved of by the MSM? Was his vitriol directed at a non-political figure? Was he immediately interviewed by sympathetic MSM TV personalities?
Just to set the record
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 20:04 ET by JerJust to set the record straight: I thought your "white boy" remark was directed at me--not "gay liberal". [The latter term is only half right.]
Unless you consider Hannity party of the MSM, probably not. Do you contend Hilton's comments were "approved" by the MSM? Nugent's vitriol was directed at Obama and Hillary Clinton. I don't know how soon after that particular rant he was interviewed.
Jer
~Approved
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 20:12 ET by choselife3xBy the MSM.
Did Chen take him to task? I didn't see it, don't watch.
I was just on this thread to torment guttermouth, anyway. *grin*
-
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 20:08 ET by JerAAAARRGH!
Yet another double post.
I had never seen the aforementioned video
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:34 ET by katainkentyou sincerely call that "screaming out of control"?
I love to help the helpless but I'm not gonna help the clueless ~Dennis Miller
You seem to have a history
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:20 ET by PerseusYou seem to have a history of calling anyone who has a strong argument against you guttermouth. Funny, actually.
Perseus
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:24 ET by sherylsimsYou are calling those "strong arguments"??
Ha! You're right. Chose
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:34 ET by StewMcKinHa! You're right. Chose accused Flying Dutchman and pi314 of being guttermouth.
~Incorrect
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:37 ET by choselife3xStudy harder.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
You're boring me now.
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:40 ET by StewMcKinYou're boring me now. You've taken this so far off topic I barely remember what we were arguing about. See you on another thread. Name's still Stew.
~Slink back into your gutter
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:45 ET by choselife3xAnd don't forget the winged @ss you flew in on. If you want to carry more than one alias at a time, you should comment under both rather than trotting a totally fresh nom de plume out to be your second.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
~Perseus, huh?
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:34 ET by choselife3xAnd what do you know of my history, pray tell? Gee, where did Stew go?
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Chose
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:41 ET by sherylsimsI am guessing this is a case of multiple personalities gone ugly. What do you think?
Welcome to the Whack-A-Mole
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:41 ET by SickofLibsWelcome to the Whack-A-Mole lightning round.
Boink - Over here!
No over here - boink!
moles~
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:56 ET by Georgia GirlLOL. Oh my gosh, you guys...I was just reading through this -- you have been mighty busy this afternoon. Unbelievable, the lengths some will go to...well, I see you have it well under control. Sorry for the tedious nature that is the mole game. :(
And to think it was so peaceful here on this site, for about...well, 7 hours or so? Sigh.
Rush Limbaugh mocking
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 15:55 ET by Another Dead KennedyRush Limbaugh mocking Michael J Fox a few years back was about as reviling as a public figure can get. Oh wait, I'm on the wrong site for condemning the actions of Rush.
~Reviling?
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:18 ET by choselife3xThis is really shameless, folks. This is really shameless of Michael J.
Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting, one of the
two,” Limbaugh said.
Rush said what doctors and other experts were saying off the record on Monday
when the news of the Michael J. Fox ads were fresh to the election
buzzlines: That it looked like he must have laid off his medication to
make sure viewers would have a worse-day kinda look at life with
Parkinson’s. As Limbaugh has pointed out, Fox admitted he does such
things (like when testifying before a congressional committee) in his
memoir.
Sooooo....Fox admitted that he was doing what Rush said he was doing, but Rush is a bad guy for saying it?
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Yes, it was petty, juvenile,
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:26 ET by Another Dead KennedyYes, it was petty, juvenile, and disgusting to openly mock someone suffering from an incurable disease. Maybe when your husband or wife has been diagnosed with Parkinsons you'll sing a different tune.
~I was singing?
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:33 ET by choselife3x*Ahem*
Yes, saying that someone is doing something that they are, in fact, doing is quite disgusting. I mean, it's not like Rush mocked Fox's deliberately manipulative behavior. He mocked Fox for having a disea....oh, wait....
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
juvenile and disgusting...
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:43 ET by SickofLibs...you mean like your screen name?
You are so far gone KDW that you think this thread deals with
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:56 ET by pahuberRush that it does with one twisted sick chick.
Words, meanings, etc, etc
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 17:26 ET by acumenYes, it was petty, juvenile, and disgusting to openly mock someone suffering from an incurable disease. Maybe when your husband or wife has been diagnosed with Parkinsons you'll sing a different tune.
You are incorrectly using the word "mocking" in place of the more correct word - 'criticising'.
As in this paragraph from USA Today; "Similarly, some have criticized Fox's ads as exploitive. Conservative radio commentator Rush Limbaugh claimed Fox was "either off his medication or acting" during the ad.
BTW - How is this for a different tune? My wife has an incurable disease (Lupus). Unlike Fox I will spare you the hell she and our family have endured as she has steadily declined over the last 10 - 15 years. Yet neither my wife nor any family member, including myself, think exploiting human embryos for any reason is a noble endeavor. On the contrary, we think it is a selfish, if not a highly disturbed person that would promote the harvesting and destruction of human embryos in a self-serving attempt to obtain better health for oneself. The fact that you choose to focus on Rush's criticism of Fox instead of the selfish exploitation utilized by Fox speaks volumes about how callous and self-centered we have become as a Nation. That sad reality is the essence of juvenile.
KDW ~ Do you even have a point?
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:52 ET by pahuber?
He does
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 17:01 ET by sherylsimsBut his hat almost completely covers it.
BAHAHAHAHA!!!
Ba-da-bum-Tsh
LOL ~
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 17:24 ET by pahuber: )
only benefitting them?
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:33 ET by candanceWhat shall we do? Let the bashfest go unchallenged so the public will just moveon.org and never think about what actually happened? So teens who watch Perez Hilton will never hear anyone say it was wrong?
If this had not become an issue on NB, would you have voluntarily criticized Hilton for it? Do you have any plans to talk to kids in your life about how this kind of bullying is bad?
Oops, look what I found, popular Christian websites already condemn public bullying of gays, and aside from snarky comments on a message board we do not make habit of attacking people. Can you say the same about the left's tolerance of us?
What shall we do? Well the
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 15:06 ET by StewMcKinWhat shall we do? Well the first problem is that newsbusters doesn't make the evening news, so all the chatter here is pretty much destined to stay here. That's why Rush and Hannity will continue to do their part to condemn this.
I have no kids, and naturally I don't plan to speak with my pets about this - they won't get it.
As far as the left tolerating the right, I can't say. I don't visit leftist websites as they have no interest to me. Although I'm certain the left hates you as much as you hate them. I'm looking for a better rounded education into the psyche of Americans of all different parties and beliefs.
~Candance
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:12 ET by choselife3xIt sure does get old when they willfully misunderstand your point so they can dodge a direct question they don't want to answer.
yes chose
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:39 ET by candanceThe technical term for that is being "obtuse" and people do it all the time.
Conservative women are beautiful...
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:31 ET by goodsoulmanbecause they are intellectually, morally and ethically sound. Miss California has shown us how precious 1st Amendment defense is in this toxic left-liberal environment. Now "The Chosen One" has said that he is "open to prosecutions" after the criminal leak of Bush-era security memos. This HYPOCRISY, THOUGHT POLICE should make all of us "sick in the stomach". But alas! Rancid Rancic can only see a mile out of West Hollywood that lost all semblance of Americanism long back. And to that piece of St**l Perez Hilton, I guess his last "session" was unsatisfactory, so he came as judge (weren't they supposed to be impartial?) to Miss USA event. All frustration, brutha!
I salute Carrie Prejean for her beauty, intelligence and INTERGRITY. Way to go Carrie!
My Virtue is my White Hope!
You forgot to mention...
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 13:31 ET by Eugeniaconservative women also shave and bathe. Can't say the same about someone like Janeane Garofolo, et. al.
The Marketing of Evil
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:35 ET by BlueCat57Time to remind everyone to read:
The Marketing of Evil by David Kupelian
One of the chapters is on how the gay rights movement was marketed to America.
Let's make this book #2 on Amazon and show the liberals who's boss.
so..
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:45 ET by katainkentbasically the Miss USA pageant really is all about the boobs.
I love to help the helpless but I'm not gonna help the clueless ~Dennis Miller
HMMM
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:48 ET by rick007What makes me sick is the thoughts of that fat pig B. Frank bent over getting his butt pounded .
THANKS RICK007
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:07 ET by jacktheripperyou just ruined my supper!!!!
" The Future Is X Rated"
The Height of Hypocrisy
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:05 ET by energynow"sorry i wasn't clear...i was referring to miss california as a disgrace. life is short. everyone deserves to love & be loved."
Except, of course, anyone who doesn't agree with your views.
Mock or criticize, either is fair
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 18:05 ET by slickwillie2001I see nothing at all wrong with criticizing or mocking someone suffering from an incurable disease if that person is crassly exploiting his own physical condition that resulted from the disease to sell me some piece of political propaganda.
TMZ - E! vs. Access -- Battle of the Twits
Tue, 04/21/2009 - 18:56 ET by Rush FanTMZ reports that Access Hollywood's Billy Bush, who co-hosted the Miss USA Pageant, got into a Twitter fight with Giuliana Rancid Rancic.
Billy Bush did point out to Rancic Rancid a fact that everyone in the liberal media always fails to mention:
Bush: interesting. Tensions mount with passion. hard 4 people (not just G.R.) to remain level. but Obama has same stance as Miss USA. need him.
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Rancid
Wed, 04/22/2009 - 10:55 ET by jessieHJessie R. Hamby Speaking of an ignorant discrace, how you doing, Giuliana?
I think Rancic is nauseated
Sat, 05/16/2009 - 01:29 ET by RogerCfromSDI think Rancic is nauseated by the knowledge that Prejean is more famous than she is.
A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.