A liberal not wanting to debate...knock me over with a feather.

Aut viam inveniam aut faciam

I am is a state of astonsihment and shock!  A liberal is unwilling or unable to defend her ignorant opinions in an unbiased public forum!

Two problems with that:

1. She doesn't know the "Theos."
2. And she doesn't know the "Logos."

Other than that, she's perfectly qualified...

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

I listened to the interview, and spent most of the time scratching my head.

• Miller's argument is that the Bible can be used to support gay marriage is based on the Bible's promotion of love and "inclusiveness." Well now that's the kind of blank check argument that embarrasses intelligence. How does the promotion of love require society to "tolerate" everything? It's as if the moment you use the "love" argument, you associate that with the unwillingness to tell anyone that what they're doing is wrong.
• At one point, Miller argued that we think that our contemporary understanding is how we've always understood marriage. But, she counters, this is just a recent reinterpretation. After all, she says, in the nineteenth century, men routinely had mistresses, and went to prostitutes.
  • Her point is irrelevant, since those practices weren't based on biblical interpretations, as she insists our current attitudes are.
  • The fact that men did those things, even commonly, doesn't mean that religious people condoned it. Consider drug abuse. It may be relatively common - but does that prove that religious people condone it?
  • The religious attitudes, especially the ideas grounded in the Bible, haven't changed at all.

Her argument is a mish-mash of muddled ideas. She's pushing the concept that to be "inclusive" and "loving," we must all accept gay activists' definition of marriage, otherwise we would be insulting them, and that's not very loving. Apparently, it is insulting and un-Christian to disagree with someone's agenda, no matter what it might be.

I still argue that this whole thing is a wild goose chase. Opposition to gay marriage in civil society isn't based on biblical interpretations, so muddying the waters by offering biblical alternatives is just a distraction. It's the media's attempt to drag the debate into religion, and they've already convinced the public that any discussion of religion in public is inappropriate. They want this discussion to become a religious debate, so they can push it aside.

How could God be in favor of gay marriage? How could he be in favor of
a marriage that won't create any progeny? Gays wind up old and alone
without any kids to take care of them. How could God be in favor of
that?! A big lie is that you are born gay. This is just false. Most
gays become gay because of a childhood trauma, especially when they
grow up with just one parent or have been abused by one parent. They
are like addicts whose lives are controlled by this mental illness
called homosexuality. Two in three AIDS cases affect gays! Syphillis
among gays in SF is rampant! Because males are naturally more horny and
when the meet in gay bars the only reason they meet there is their
sexual orientation. No inhibitions as between males and females. No
need to worry about contraception and unwanted babies. Thus, why any
pesky condoms? No wonder promiscuity is the standard among them. How
could God condone a lifestyle that gives you a lower life expectancy
than chain smokers?

There are good reasons why gayness is dangerous and not harmless. God
is smarter than any liberal. And deep down, all gays know they're
sinners and they are desperate to legitimize their sick lifestyles
through making it look holy and acceptable by dint of "gay marriage."
no, God is against gayness but for gays. There are plenty of them who
beat their addiction and are now happily married heteros.

Gays are a threat to society because every person who becomes gay is one person less able to start a family and keep society alive and healthy. Add to that the rampant venereal diseases they spread among society, they are a major threat to our society. And Satan's explicit goal is to destroy society by destroying families. Without families, there can be no healthy society.

Furthermore,elevating gay partnerships to the status of the holy wedlock, we give our children the wrong message. And many kids and teens are susceptible to the gay propaganda juggernaut and in adolescence they easily fall prey to these dangerous teachings. We have to resist these devilish plans by all means.