Complete with a photo of the president-elect at the pulpit, ABCNews.com is hyping how "Obama Goes Church-Hunting, With Caution" on the Web site's front page.
"In picking church, Obamas will weigh political, religious and personal feelings," the subheading to Russell Goldman's reads.:
Come Jan. 20, Barack Obama knows the house in which he and his family will live, but he has yet to decide at which house of worship they will pray.
Within steps from the White House, the Obamas can choose from a bevy of churches, each offering reasons to be selected, from historic connections to the presidency to historic connections to the African-American community.
Story Continues Below Ad ↓Anywhere the Obamas choose to worship, observers told ABCNews.com, will likely be scrutinized for a political message.
The Obama transition staff would not comment on which church the family was considering or when it would announce a decision.
But for someone perplexed from all the options available at what church to attend, the president-elect has been spending his Sundays working out rather than worshiping:
Obama has attended church sparingly in the past several months, and since winning the election has spent his Sunday mornings at the gym.
"I think he has to use some discretion because of Rev. Wright, and carefully consider where he and his family choose to attend," said pastor Ronald Braxton of the historically black Metropolitan AME Church, located six blocks from the White House.
Although a skeptic might plausibly argue the president-elect's absence from a house of worship points to him being cavalier about the spiritual and theological importance of finding a church home, Goldman took for granted that Obama is devout:
Obama has spoken frequently about the importance of his Christian faith. In his 2006 book, "The Audacity of Hope," he wrote that "the historically black church offered me a second insight: that faith doesn't mean that you don't have doubts, or that you relinquish your hold on this world. ... You needed to come to church precisely because you were of this world, not apart from it."
Having noted how the histrionic ravings of Rev. Jeremiah Wright must be on Obama's mind in choosing a new congregation, Goldman oddly chose to close with the thoughts of another leftist minister, Al Sharpton:
"Ironically, Wright belonged to the United Church of Christ, a middle-of-the-road white denomination," said Sharpton. "The Wright situation must be something on his mind when looking for a church, but I don't know what his thinking is.
"The truth is, it's a new age in America and in America's churches," Sharpton added. "What were once white churches are now mixed. And what were once black churches are now mixed."
—Ken Shepherd is Managing Editor of NewsBusters
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The Search
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 12:09 ET by Delsabegins in the locker rooms of Sunday gyms.
May he find his Church? in the dirty socks!
His religion is Marxism and his God is himself!
Can I get an AMEN?!!
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 13:27 ET by choselife3xCan I get an AMEN?!! (chorus) AMEN!!
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Amen
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:20 ET by misterbee241AMEN, brother. Or sister, as the case might be.
Does it even matter?
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 12:14 ET by FinerThingsClubMemberInTrainingHis sycophants clearly didn't care that he spent a good part of the latter two decades worshiping at the altar of a rabid anti-Semitic Farrakhan wannabe.
This poser is more suited to hang with wingnut protestors and mentally ill homeless hanging across from 1600 than in the Oval Office. I'm sure he'll find something fitting to do with them on his Sunday mornings.
If Obama wants to continue
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:22 ET by misterbee241If Obama wants to continue his 20 year journey in the spiritual desert then any church will do, the denomination will not matter.
However, if he wants to grow spiritually and be assured of his salvation, the he needs a Bible believing/Bible teaching church.
The gym,... way more important
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 12:14 ET by Dano"Although a skeptic might plausibly argue the president-elect's absence from a house of worship points to him being cavalier about the spiritual and theological importance of finding a church home, Goldman took for granted that Obama is devout"
All for show..........he could care less
What good is the gym doing
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:25 ET by misterbee241What good is the gym doing him if he keeps puffing those cancer sticks? http://www.metrolyrics.com/smoke-smoke-smoke-that-cigarette-lyrics-hank-thompson.html
How about...
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 12:24 ET by BKeyserthis one?
Wow BK
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 12:41 ET by jistincaseDid they just transplant his old church to that spot. I bet Jesse Jackson and Wright and guest speakers all the time. Makes me all warm and fuzzy just reading their mission statement.
Looks like a clone of
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:24 ET by misterbee241Looks like a clone of Trinity UCC.
Actually,
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 12:45 ET by DelsaObama's not going to church is the first or second honest thing he has done.
Personally, I don't want him going to church if it is only a photo opp as Clinton was. Clinton made sure we always saw him going and leaving church on Sunday's.
I want him to skip church. God doesn't need one more liar in any of his houses.
The ONE should stay in the dirty socks.
He's his own church
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 12:49 ET by upcountrywaterwhere ever he is.
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Rats rear-end-----
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 13:12 ET by Roscoe MendagoI've felt since the whole Wright thing came about that Obama didn't pick out a church to worship in, his wife and her family did it for him. Michelle grew up in the neighborhood, so what better church for them to attend.
Black Liberation Theology, now that sounds patriotic, must really churn out good Americans. He was raised by whites, now he needs to be taught the word of God. How much thought to religion must he have ever given serious thought to, he doesn't give a rats rear-end about it, it's just a means to an end.
Lets just see how far this guy makes it.....
"Church" goers???
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 13:31 ET by iveseenitall"God Daaaamn America!", "God Daaaamn America!"
(20 years)
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Hussein's choice of a church
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 13:31 ET by cocodrie"to be selected, from historic connections to the presidency, to histiric connections to the african-American community"....."You needed to come to church precisely because you were of this world, not apart from it".
In his own words his choice of a church will be made on political and racist beliefs and motivations - not a belief or faith in God.
Barry and Michelle
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 13:41 ET by iveseenitallMarxists don't believe in God. Barry's and Never-So- Proud's choice will be poltical and racial. I used to laugh every time I saw Clinton with his Bible. I'll do so again with Barry the commie. Read some Dante and see where the hypocrites are burning.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
People are somehow under
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 13:43 ET by Clear thinkerPeople are somehow under the impression that Obama is a Christian.
How surprised would most people be to find out that BLT is not Christianity? Probably quite a few.
How many people would be surprised to know that right after Rev. Wright took over Trinity Church he threw out all the white members? Probably quite a few.
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Not only that, but how
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 14:42 ET by motherbeltNot only that, but how about this:
Obama has attended church sparingly in the past several months, and
since winning the election has spent his Sunday mornings at the gym.
One would think that after not being able to always attend a service on the campaign trail, he would look forward to getting back into a Sunday church-going routine.
Apparently the good Christian thinks being part of the "fabulously fit first couple" is more important than worship.
In my experience, good Christians generally put God first on Sunday mornings. They gym is open all day, I believe.
No such impression here.
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 14:47 ET by Mike BrattonBetween twenty years marinating in ethnocentric, anti-Christian liberation theology and starting up his own cult of personality, why would anyone be so naive as to think Obama could be identified as a Christian?
Now, that is not to say that those of us who are Christians shouldn't pray for his salvation--quite to the contrary. But as things stand, Obama sees both churchgoing and Christianity as props.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport.com
Mike,
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 02:53 ET by RESTLESS 1By praying for his salvation, are you implying that we shoud pray that he is saved, which by his associations so far, I don't see it, or that he will be saved, in which case, if you believe in predestination, would be like pissing in the wind?
I will choose to pray that he doesn't screw up too much.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I will pray that he would be
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:41 ET by misterbee241I will pray that he would be saved.
I believe in predestination but not as Calvinists teach it. I believe that all of us are predestined for one place - Hell. Without Jesus our predestination is Hell. However, With Jesus as savior, our predestination then becomes Heaven and Hell is nullified. We hear the calling of the Holy Spirit and choose to join the elect body called the church. The elect body's predestination is Heaven.
God does not sit in Heaven and point and say, "you, you and you are going to Heaven, but you, you and you are going to Hell."
That would make God a liar and arbitary and not worthy of worship.
Good question, Restless One.
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 09:38 ET by Mike BrattonAnd my apologies for not being more clear. Since Barack Obama is not currently a Christian, by his own declarations, those of us who are Christians have a responsibility to pray that he is saved at some point in the future.
Praying that "he doesn't screw up too much" isn't a bad idea, but there is more eternal consequence for Obama's personal salvation than in his governance.
With regard to predestination: Since we don't have a God's-eye view of the time-space continuum, it is beyond our mortal perception to suggest that Person A is saved, yet Person B has no hope of ever being saved at some point in the future. We are to pray for the unsaved, so that's what I suggest believers do.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport.com
Mike and Misterbee
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 20:03 ET by RESTLESS 1Thanks for your comments. I guess I will have to pray for him. I was kind of looking for a way out of it. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Huh?
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 13:38 ET by Jerry"I think he has to use some discretion because of Rev. Wright, and carefully consider where he and his family choose to attend,"
At this point, ABC's audience has to be wondering... "Who the heck is this Rev. Wright character?", because they surely have not heard about him pre-election.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Obama: "You needed to
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 13:48 ET by JerryObama: "You needed to come to church precisely because you were of this world, not apart from it.."
I thought believers had been set apart from the world through Christ. I thought the world and the world view were antithetical to Christ. I thought the "world" was at war with Christ and His believers.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Romans 12:2
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:50 ET by misterbee241Jerry,
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 20:06 ET by RESTLESS 1He might have know that if he had worshipped at a church with a preacher that actually taught the word of God, and not the "hate America and hate whitey" BS that he was listening to.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Obama As the Prodigal Son?
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 13:54 ET by ChuchulainnYou folks remind me of the older son in the Parable of the Prodigal Son, Luke 15:11-32. You should be happy that someone is returning to the church. Of course in this case he may only be returning for political expediency, but it's a start!
Huh?
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 14:05 ET by ledurchiThe prodigal son went to the gym on Sundays?
What version of the bible are you reading?
Hello led
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 14:11 ET by cocodrie"what version of the bible are you reading?"
My sentiments exactly. Hussein could maybe compared to the prodigal son while he was on his spending spree before he got into the pig-pen.
What?
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 00:55 ET by ChattychitoThere is no law that Christians cant go to the gym on Sunday.
What Bible are you reading. I read the King James Version all others are nonesense.
Chapter and verse please and don't quote me something that can only be attributed or commanded to Israel either.
We are under Grace, we are not under a Sabbbath law to remain in our homes and do nothing on Sunday. that would be a legalistic teaching or at best a cultic teaching.
Good evening Chatty
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 01:43 ET by cocodrieGoing to the gym on Sunday is fine but not in place of church.
The King James translation is not the most accurate translation and has many errors.
In Obama's own words his church is "to be selected from historic connections to the presidency to historic connections to the African-American community"....."You need to come to church precisely because you were of the world and not apart from it". This is directly opposite of biblical teaching.
The point is that he is basing his choice of a church on political and racist motivations rather than a belief and faith in God. His core beliefs are totally anti-christian and he is about to impose those beliefs on America.
Cocodrie...
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:58 ET by misterbee241Could you use the email function here to email me a few? I'd like to take a look at them.Thanks in advance.
Let me help you, Chatty.
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 09:53 ET by Mike BrattonA translation is always better than a paraphrase.
The KJV is an excellent translation, though it does contain a few inaccuracies, and was translated almost 400 years ago, making some of the English phraseology tough for some to penetrate.
There are other translations that are trustworthy, such as the Holman Christian Standard. I suggest you look into the matter.
Now, with regard to your observation about church and Sundays: I've been known to work out, do labor, and perform all sorts of non-church-related activities on Sundays. However, the point is not that Obama goes to the gym on Sundays, but that he studiously avoids church--whether it's Sunday worship, Wednesday night Bible study, or Tuesday visitation.
And your request for chapter and verse, from the KJV translation (my favorite translation, as well) of Hebrews 10:23-27:
There should be no "Lone Ranger" Christians, Chatty. There's a reason the Bible refers to us as "the body of Christ," rather than "the separate, autonomous, non-interacting, isolated loners of Christ."
The refusal to attend anything but a cultic, pseudo-Christian "church" is only one portion of the testimony against Obama.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport.com
You should be happy that
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 14:44 ET by motherbeltYou should be happy that someone is returning to the church.
I will be, when he returns to church. However, as reported, he goes to the gym on Sunday mornings.
I guess he's "church-shopping" now, and once inaugurated he will start again?
The prodigal son separated
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:55 ET by misterbee241The prodigal son separated himself from his family because of his own wants and desires. He was apart from his family on the Sabbath. He came to his senses when he woke up in a pig sty. I hope Obama is merely separated from the family of God, in which case he will be welcomed back as the prodigal son was. But he needs a Bible preaching church where the Holy Spirit will convict him. There are six days in the week in which to go to the gym. There is also Sunday afternoons. Most churches hold services on Wednesday nights and Sunday nights. So if Obama wants to go to the gym on Sunday morning he can always go to church on those other times. The key word is "want" to go.
someone who has the most
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 14:02 ET by Old Europesomeone who has the most extreme pro abortion and infanticide stance dares call himself christian? someone who obviously is just a hypocrite and narcissist calls himself devout? and the media are trying to sell an abortionist as christian? this shows that satan has addled too many minds already. satan is the god of this world and he has taken a stronghold in the media and the public. there is no other explanation for how there can be so many imbeciles out there voting for odumbo.
Maybe a Church where the Theme of Sunday's Sermon...
Mon, 11/24/2008 - 17:58 ET by Dan LaHoodmight be something, warm, something loving, like " Gosh Darn America!"
Anyone who has ever heard Santayana's famous quote about History repeating itself is condemned to repeat it.
oopps!
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 00:49 ET by Chattychitooopps!
He should try Calvary Chapel
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 00:48 ET by ChattychitoCalvary Chapel would be his best choice.
First thing, they don't allow politicians in the pulpit. Only the Pastor
Second, they only use the Bible and teach thru the Bible, book by book, chapter by chapter, verse by verse. No special agenda no hate or politcle support messages. Just simple Bible so you can learn and grow as a Christian.
Three, maybe he and his family would learn how to see themselves the way God sees them. 1) As sinners who need Chrsit, 2) sinners saved by grace and 3) sinners who are growing in grace. Depending on which class he would fall into.
And that is precisely why
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:15 ET by misterbee241And that is precisely why you will never, but never see him near a Calvary Chapel.
Their teaching is very sound. There is only one of their teachings where I disagree with them: that you can lose your salvation. But other than that, I could attend a CC with no problem.
Chuck Smith and Calvary
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 09:27 ET by sherylsimsChuck Smith and Calvary Chapel do NOT hold to the position that you can lose your salvation. They hold the scriptural position that once you are saved you are saved for eternity. I know Chuck Smith and my daughter went to the Bible college in Murietta and even worked there after she graduated. We have gone to Calvary Chapel churches in the past and it has never been taught that you can lose your salvation.
Heh...
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 08:12 ET by misterbee241When I look for a church I look for one that preaches Christ and him crucified, a Bible believing and a Bible teaching church. But then, I dont allow politics to influence my decisions about my eternal destination. I'm sure Obama can find another hate-preaching church with no problem.
I know one for Obama - Foundery United Methodist. This was Hill and Bill's church. It is theologically and politically liberal, and very pro-abortion, like Obamessiah himself. Of course, any Unitarian Universalist Church would work for him too.
The most segregated hour in America
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 09:08 ET by BlueCat57That's what some black pastor in the South called 10 am Sunday morning. In fact he was offering to pay whites to visit his church. Someone needs to get Al a new set of glasses. I don't think people wake up Sunday morning and say "I'm going to a church full of people the same color as me." I think we wake up Sunday morning and as the saying goes "flock together with other birds of our feather." People want to be around others with like interests. And interests tend to break along ethnic lines. I don't go to a Chinese church because quite frankly I'd starve at their potlucks. I don't go Pentacostal church because I'm not an emotional worshipper. I don't go to an Episcopal church because I'm conservative in my beliefs and values. Obama should pick a church because he wants to worship God. Unfortunately he will pick a church because he wants to be seen as religious. You can fool some of the people all the time, but he won't be fooling me any of the time.
"Birds of a feather flock together."
Will Hussein choose a Muslim Church?
Tue, 11/25/2008 - 09:35 ET by PopularTechI mean he was raised Muslim...
Islam an unknown factor in Obama bid (L.A. Times)
"In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school" - Barrack Hussein Obama
- Barrack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim
- Barrack Hussein Obama's Middle Name is Muslim
- Barrack Hussein Obama's Father was a Muslim
- Barrack Hussein Obama's Stepfather was a Muslim
- Barrack Hussein Obama's Grandfather was a Muslim
- Barrack Hussein Obama's Brothers are Muslim
- Barrack Hussein Obama was registered as a Muslim in schools in Indonesia
- Barrack Hussein Obama studied the Koran and attended weekly religion lessons about Islam in school in Indonesia
- Barrack Hussein Obama prayed in mosques in Indonesia
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