Congratulations, America. It's a she-male!
Trumpeting an "exclusive," ABCNews.com is proud to announce that transsexual Thomas Beatie is pregnant again. As we've documented at NewsBusters, the biologically female pregnant "man" was the mid-summer fascination of ABC News both in broadcast and on its Web site, ABCNews.com. Beatie gave birth in July but is preggers again and that's enough to make the Breaking News e-mail circuit at ABCNews.com.
Here's the text of the Breaking News alert I received in my inbox around 11:30 a.m. EST today:
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
'Pregnant Man' Thomas Beatie Tells ABC's Barbara Walters He Is Expecting Second Child [11:07 a.m. ET]
For more, go to abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396
The Web site currently has two Beatie stories in its "top headlines" rotation: a tease for the Barbara Walters exclusive, and a photo montage entitled "At Home with the Pregnant Man."





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November 13, 2008 - 14:22 ET by TexndocI saw a clip of these two lesbians being interviewed by Barbara Walters and of course she plays into the "he" "him" and that crap that an six-year old with the basic knowledge of the birds and bees can figure out. Barbara points out it says "male" on his driver's license, and "he's pregnant"! How thid this happeth!!??? asks the idiot BaWa.
let's call a spade a spade
November 13, 2008 - 20:35 ET by lotrRadical left-wing propaganda.
May all concerned take heed, lest the programming destroys your mind and soul.
And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. -- Edgar Allan Poe
Wrong, but only half wrong
November 14, 2008 - 14:18 ET by AshleeTransexuality is not 'Left Wing Propaganda,' nor is this story persay, but I'll admit many are using these people to their own political ends. I know transexuals get about ZERO respect here based off of some quite heated debates I've read in the past, however, it does exist, there is extremely strong scientific evidence regarding hormone washes during development of a child and even brain chemistry that refute the idea that this is 'not legitimate.' Sure, chromosomes determine a person's biological sex, but that's obviously not what we're talking about, if it was, then yes, all women would identify as women and all men would identify as men. That, however, is not the case, and as more funding goes into this research of how these anomolies occur, more evidence comes to the surface that it *is* a legitimate issue and occurance in human development as physiology.
I'm just happy to see a semi-positive, if not a tad sensationalized, viewpoint on transexuals and that many are quite normal people, merely trying to live their lives as normal as possible given their circumstances. Let it also be noted, if you're gonna judge, read the whole story. The man in question went thru over a year of deciding to become pregnant, and only did so in order to have a child as his wife as infertile.
Either way, no one is trying to recruit people to be gay or transexual, they just merely want people to let them live their lives without discrimination or harrassment.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
the proverbial lead (Pb) in the pipes....
November 14, 2008 - 14:55 ET by lotrShe is not a man -- she is biologically female. And given that she is also homo sapiens, this would make her a woman by definition. Alas, it would appear that insidious, incessant programming has indeed taken its toll...
When one "self-identifies" as something not grounded in reality, as is the case here, in an otherwise non-PC paradigm such a person may very well be diagnosed as suffering from some sort of psychosis, perhaps delusional disorder.
And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. -- Edgar Allan Poe
Please, just do the research, I'll even lead you to the water
November 14, 2008 - 15:52 ET by AshleeSeriously. I have extensive links on this particular subject, and, in my own honest opinion, I have a sympathy for trans people that greatly overshadows that of Homosexuals. I still believe both are conditions one is born with mentally, however, not everything can be 'cured.' Also, again, while I still believe it is a preference or 'wiring' one is born with, there is still little to no evidence to even BEGIN making the slightest theory backed by science that one can be born into a gender and sexual role and yet still prefer that same gender/sexual role in intimate relations.
As I said before, this is neither a case of psychosis or delusion, rather, it is, most likely for the majority of them (cutting out the crossdressers and drag queens) it is purely an issue of in utero development. Seriously, google the hormone bath theory, or the study they did in which after conducting tests upon deceased humans, the ones in the study who identified as female but born male had similar brain structure and stimulus patterns to that of a biological female without only a 1-5% differential. The differential in regard to heterosexual and homosexual men in the study? Both the homosexual male and heterosexual male were within I believe it was like 4-5% to 18% difference. The truely telling factor? The fact that the human male brain and female brain, the tests they ran upon them, showed signifigant difference in how they produced and recieved stimuli and the overall structure of much of the brain itself. This is extremely telling stuff and is basically the internally bio equivalent of an intersexxed individual, only in this case, an intersexxed brain (body male, brain female.)
I agree, to produce children, one must still be biologically female. However, as I also said previous, the man in question had to put transition on hold, much to his sadness and frustration, but felt it was worthwhile to share a child with his wife and begin their own family. It presents a tough explaination to the children, but as I said, as time progresses we learn more and more about the situation of transexualism and that it *is* most likely explainable through science, and, in most cases, presents an issue where the individual falls on the very gender line itself, making it difficult to justify forcing them into one side or another.
Also, as someone who used to loathe the idea of such things due to growing up in quite a more blindly judgemental time, I was surprised to find out such information and I can assure you, people of this issue *know* long before they even reach middle school. Many know as early as age 5. I know many are going to say
'thats WAAAAAY too young...' However, it is psychological theory, believed by much if not the majority of pyschologists who study early childhood behavior, that a child is aware of their 'gender identity' between the ages of 4 and 8 years old.
These people don't just do this for kicks or because they wanna wear clothes of the other gender, they did not wake up one day and decide they are gonna just have a go at the other sex because they are bored. These are *real* and tortured people who live in a society that believes its their appearance and genitalia that decide whom they are, regardless of their own true identity.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
Ashlee... ..all of that
November 14, 2008 - 15:58 ET by bigtimerAshlee...
..all of that ifo is wonderful wonderful..it still has not a thing to do with the fact that only a WOMAN can have a baby...
I am sick of people in he msm or others anywhere trying to twist this differently.
It is that simple.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Agreed wholeheartedly BT.
November 14, 2008 - 16:23 ET by AshleeAgreed wholeheartedly BT. I personally would give that person the respect of calling them a man, however, currently, he is technically still 'she.' You're also right that the media uses the idea of a pregnant man as an eye catcher and admittedly, and sadly for the actual person in question, it works. I think the main goal of the man in question was to illustrate that not all transexuals are creeps, weirdos, and porn stars, and that many just want to lead as normal a life as possible. I think knowing now not only the backlash, but that the liberal media never cared about spreading tolerance, just to get attention to themselves as 'sympathetic' as a way to vie for votes, he would have rethought going through all this.
Also, the man in question, albeit still physically female, was in the process of becoming as physically and biologically male as possible, but only stopped when he realized his wife could not bear a child. If you watch the whole story, the man was and still is quite tore up with having to go thru with birthing the child as it felt foreign to him, but was a 'worthy sacrafice.' SO, in turn, its not just the case of a woman wanting to be a butch lesbian that is viewed as a man. This person genuinely finds no affinity to their birth gender or sexual makeup, but sacraficed a year of his transition for the sake of creating a family for him and his wife.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
prosperity disease pandemic
November 14, 2008 - 20:21 ET by lotrShe will be a "she" until the day she dies. It is etched into the very fabric of her being, every bit as much as being homo sapiens is etched into the fabric of her being. What's next? What about those who "self-identify" as a different race, or species? What about those who fancy themself a cat, or a horse? There is scientifically no difference. She subjectively fancies herself as something which she is objectively not.
Yet another case of prosperity disease, and the media propaganda machine is making it pandemic. On the one hand, I truly feel sorry for this poor woman, who is apparently suffering from sort of delusional psychosis, but no one seems to truly care. Kind of like the person sitting at the dinner table with food on their face, looking like a fool all evening, but no one says anything out of fear of "hurting their feelings." On the other hand, however, the only reason we are even having this debate is because she has the luxury to fancy herself a male.
And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. -- Edgar Allan Poe
*le sigh*
November 15, 2008 - 15:51 ET by AshleeLOTR, if I believed you would actually read it or not just poo poo it immediately, I'd drop some real science of this on you. I agree, it IS a conundrum because 'she' will always be bio-female. However, *he* will do anything he can to come close to whom he is and again, I dunno if you are just skimming my post or ignoring this point, but the science in this DOES show that one CAN, albeit a freak occurance, be born biologically one gender yet mentally wired for the other. It happens, and I know thats a major wrench in the gears, but as I said, physically intesexxed people exist and it took YEARS for people to just *accept* that it occurs and not just think 'well, lets just sew that one up, its a boy.' or 'we can just cut it off and your daughter will be fine.'
Its a given humanity dislikes such confusing and puzzling issues. However, it happens and this is simply a case of an intersexed brain, not so much on a strictly physical level.
I just don't see how you view this as someone 'just having fun and fancying themselves the opposite gender.' Seriously. Do you KNOW the kind of awkward life he is set to deal with? I'm sure he was aware, and yet is so assured in who he is that he continues to be himself in the face of people being rude and refusing to even try to understand and others who want to but simply *can't.*
Just know one thing, you can think the science is junk, you can this this person is a 'freak,' hell you can even make a blanket statement that they all are freaks; thats your choice and it speaks alot to your character, to some good, to some bad.
However, DON'T think this is just some fun game for this person. It's a curse. We simply all try and work with the hands we are dealt and sadly this person was given an uno card and an old business card to play with, hardly fair if you ask me.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
Ashlee, Link some REAL SCIENCE WILL YA!!
November 15, 2008 - 16:31 ET by upcountrywaterLOTR, if I believed you would actually read it or not just poo poo it immediately, I'd drop some real science of this on you.
How about some good old fashioned gene testing!
Androgynous *people* don't have babies
The truth is insensitive
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just the facts, ma'am
November 15, 2008 - 20:17 ET by lotrLook, she is not a male. That's the hard, cold biological fact. She's not a male. No matter how much money she wastes (while somebody else exploits and gets rich off her condition) on chemical and/or surgical modifications to her secondary sex characteristics, she remains female. Period. And don't go lecturing me about science. I make a fine living of it, and as a detached observer, I'm calling the spade a spade, like every good scientist ought to do.
I am not suggesting that she's doing it for kicks. I am not even suggesting that it may not appear "real" to her. However, were she living in poverty, worry about basic survival, she would have no problem being a "she." Everything you have said (i.e., that there was some sort of chemical imbalance during development leading to a delusion of being the opposite sex) does not lead me to believe otherwise.
And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. -- Edgar Allan Poe
bt...simply???
November 14, 2008 - 23:32 ET by LionKing"It is that simple."
bt, it's not that simple. What if there is a "man" trapped in the body of a woman? Quit with the biological crap...what about if she feels like a man? You make it seem like feelings don't matter. How hateful and callous.
Do you like dogs? What if a person feels like they are a dog? Are you going to treat them ugly too? What if Hillary wants to be Obama's b*tch...are you going to decry that also?
Feelings...nothing more
November 14, 2008 - 23:36 ET by Clear thinkerFeelings...nothing more than feelings...la.la..la.la.la...lala.
Proof - Liberals Are Looney-Toons!
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LK you may have a point
November 14, 2008 - 23:36 ET byhhhmmmmm, i feel like popcorn..................
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
botg???
November 14, 2008 - 23:39 ET by LionKingHow does that feel?
Now that you have outed yourself, you can come out of the kettle. Can we call you Kernel Bruce?
LK... You have me
November 14, 2008 - 23:41 ET by bigtimerLK...
You have me cracking up laughing...I'm not kidding...
Thank you...so much needed tonight you will never know...that was a post I sure would like to frame on the wall...
Beautiful!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Get a wider doggie
November 14, 2008 - 23:52 ET by Dan DiegoGet a wider doggie door.
The cost of living's going up, and the chance of livin's going down. - Flip Wilson
Dan Diego...I love your
November 14, 2008 - 23:58 ET by bigtimerDan Diego...
I love your tag-line!
I miss Flip to this day...he was one in a million.
Geraldine anyone?
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
You do realize your entire
November 14, 2008 - 16:38 ET by NL207You do realize your entire argument about transexuals distills thusly: Transexuallity is a disease, an abnormal condition arising from chemical origins within the victim's body.
If it really is a disease, then it should be cured, not accommodated, which is what you are calling for.
As for describing this surgically / chemically mutilated individual as a man ... that just reveals how little intelligence or common sense you've got.
I believe your incendiary
November 14, 2008 - 16:47 ET by AshleeI believe your incendiary tone and downright rude demeanor speaks much more for your character than what you see as speaking for an assumed supposed lack of intellect and common sense on my part.
Again, I never said it was psychosis. These people have perfectly 'normal' brains, it just happens to be that due to some issue in utero, all but confirmed 100% by modern science, the brain did not recieve the hormone wash that occurs ALONG with the Chromosomal development. I for one think MANY transexual people would MUCH rather take a pill that 'realigns' their brain to their bodies.
Afterall, most WANT to be part of life's party, not on the outside looking in. Until we find a way to medically 'fix' or rather, since there's nothing *technically* wrong outside it being attributed to the wrong bio body, 'realign the brain, then we don't really have much choice for transexuals outside of forcing them to assimilate to great personal, spiritual, and emotional torment, or damn them to a 'freak's' life simply because society has to have an opinion about anything it doesnt like or understand.
As for anything else, I imagine talking to you is again like talking to a brick wall, you've got it all figured out and don't care to view actual science as a POSSIBLE, not complete, but *possible* explaination. Because GOD FORBID something *sooooo* gross ever be, you know, not born of sexual perversion.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
MSM likes a pro-lifer?
November 13, 2008 - 14:22 ET by Mica the MagnificentThe poor kid(s) do not have a chance to grow up without therapy.
Guess the MSM will show respect for pro-lifer's, but only if they're freaks.
This story has always
November 13, 2008 - 14:25 ET by Clear thinkerThis story has always driven me crazy. There is NO such thing as a pregnant man. It was a woman that had this baby... NOT A MAN!
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Dear baby (babies)
November 13, 2008 - 14:27 ET by FinerThingsClubMemberInTrainingBecause of our incessant and selfish need to procreate against the will of man, you will surely be effed up for life.
Don't worry, we have a good shrink on speed dial for you when you're ready and waiting!
ABC poll sez : 99% 0bama voters feel she's ah he.
November 13, 2008 - 14:27 ET by upcountrywaterand that the x-men, is real science.
thank you public school
First Mutt's Viet Nam 2
IranianUranium
One can only hope
November 13, 2008 - 14:28 ET by islero47These kids grow up to be rebellious teens and become... hard core Evangelical Christian conservatives!
Sarah Palin/Jason Lewis 2012
Obama, pathological nacissist: http://www.faithfree...
Two questions: Why the
November 13, 2008 - 14:29 ET by motherbeltTwo questions:
Why the big H would a woman who actually wants to have babies decide to become a man, in the first place????????
And why should anyone care?
<sound of duct tape being ripped off roll>
Weird road to riches
November 13, 2008 - 14:34 ET by nkviking75Do you suppose this WOMAN likes the attention and is making money off her children?
Welcome to the era of unity, you racist!
mb... I couldn't agree
November 13, 2008 - 16:47 ET by bigtimermb...
I couldn't agree more...I am sick of this BS, sick of the attention this gets, sick of looking at the picture of the publicity whore, feel sorry for the kids, the msm makes me ill...pass your duct tape...please!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Please, not attacking, but read before you speak/judge
November 14, 2008 - 14:25 ET by AshleeNot that it will matter to any of you as you are solid in your personal and spiritual distaste for transexuals, but *he* did not choose to have the child on a whim. *He* identifies as a man, and I doubt anyone could understand fully unless they had the situation happen to them personally. At any rate, as I said, *his* wife was hoping to bear a child and begin their family, yet after many attempts and tests, it was deemed that she was not only not taking the in-vitro attempt, but that she was indeed infertile.
After discussing it over time, the transexual man decided that, even though this would only ADD more ammo to the haters and critics out there, saying it proves she's not a man, why would a man wanna get pregnant etc, yet the happiness of their own personal family unit allowed *him* to not only overcome *his* own qualms about this (because I doubt ANY man *wants* to be pregnant) and overcome the obvious critics of *his* decision.
You don't need to invite them into your homes, and you can continue to think this is just some liberal conspiracy to turn your children gay, but it isn't. Its to spread knowledge. I agree, propaganda is not knowledge, yet there have been HUGE leaps in discovery in regard to transexuals and how such a situation might come to be.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
Not a HE
November 14, 2008 - 14:40 ET by LionKingBaisc biology lesson for another liberal.
Within the human species, females of this species bear children. This person may have some resemblance in appearance of bing a man, but reproductively, she is a woman.
This person is nothing more than a media circus-freak...bearded lady.
Just for the record, since
November 14, 2008 - 16:01 ET by AshleeJust for the record, since most apparently don't read my whole posts, since they'd know this already if they did as I've said it more than twice so far...
I am a Socially moderate conservative republican.
Just because someone in your clubhouse doesn't agree, doesn't mean you get to kick them out. Otherwise, the Republican party would just be one group think identity, attempting to indoctrinate and assimilate the independent masses the same way that liberals often try to do.
I for one will not let you, nor anyone bring that kind of shame and air of intolerance to my party. There *is* a right and wrong, but most falls into the gray areas, we need *facts* to figure out just where in the gray. Science tells us this is legit. However, and again, I'm a Christian so I am NOT saying I disapprove of the bible, but it would seem to many here, science is nothing when compared to a book of God's word.....of course tho....as written by a man.
I cant help but think of the game telephone...the story keeps changing ever so slightly depending on whos telling it, science on the other hand is pretty much right there, take it or continue on in the face of *fact* that already disproves the issue you have, and why?!
ewwwwww because its sooooo weird..... Please, I'm sure many of you have done MUCH more disgusting things at some point in your private lives, I only hope that if this kind of judgement is in your hearts upon reaching heaven, that God doesn't hold you to such a standard. Afterall, everyone has their dirt, some just think hiding it or ignoring it gives them the right to claim the ability to cast stones.
Don't worry, this 'woman' as you love to emphasize (who isnt hurting you in the least, nor attacking your lifestyle) will get hers. Sadly, so will all of us. We may not know your secrets, we may believe you are picture perfect in your existence in accordance to God, however, God knows better.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
ashlee...sheesh
November 14, 2008 - 16:09 ET by LionKingYou assume too much.
I never wished anything ill to this woman, I merely was stating facts.
I am not a Republican per se, I am a conservative.
As for the Bible, it is the inspired Word of God; as such, it is accepted by faith to faultless. Furthermore, Jesus emphasizes love, not hate. You may have heard this: "Love the sinner, hate the sin."
Sadly, all I was saying is that this woman is being exploited by the media -- anytime someone is exploited, even by their own hand, we should pity them.
If that is what you meant,
November 14, 2008 - 16:53 ET by AshleeIf that is what you meant, forgive me, I took it as 'pity the person because they are being used and are a freak.' I agree with half of that. He is no freak, he is someone born into a horrific scenario I wouldn't wish on even the most evil of men (or women.)
I do agree though, I feel sorry for his family now, I do believe at first he thought he was bringing light to the less controversial side of this issue, showing, again, not all transexuals *are* freaks or sex addicts or porn stars as most of modern hollywood and society would have us believe. Like I said, I think now, realizing that the liberal media simply took the story and ran with it, knowing it'd draw press. Its a shame to think neither side cares for these people, and I'll give conservatives credit where it's due, at least you all are flat out honest on how you feel. I know plenty of libs who feel the same, yet the second they got that poly sci degree and ran for local office, anytime someone asks their ideas of such issues, they *of course* say they sympathize and *understand.*
Conservatives may be jerks at times, but at least they are honest. Liberals seem to rather only speak the REAL truth they believe in when the cameras are off and the company is all in agreeance with any and all things said.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
Ashlee...what twisted
November 14, 2008 - 14:46 ET by bigtimerAshlee...what twisted logic...a man cannot have a child..I do not care how anyone tries to spin it..it boils down to that...
by the way...keep it private, I don't need this sick BS thrown on the television screens as if this is a man having a baby...it is a WOMAN.
You said it all...you don't need to invite them into your homes...so the msm should quit doing just that.
this is for the leftist twisted sick logic that they are trying to enforce on us out here as normal, we should just accept it as normal, we are going to indoctrinate your kids via school, msm, that this is the norm, biology be damned, this is a man...liberal mantra...repeat it often enough.. therefore it is a fact...
....well, it isn't going to work....period.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
absolute bottom line.
November 14, 2008 - 14:49 ET by katainkentabsolute bottom line. this PERSON put their own personal feelings above that of a childs.
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Assuming you are an adult,
November 14, 2008 - 15:10 ET by Jack BauerAssuming you are an adult, here's a little knowledge you should have learned by now:
In the species homo sapien sapien , MALES cannot conceive, carry and deliver a baby. Only FEMALES can do that.
Therefore a person performing such an admirable task, to maintain the species is, by definition, a FEMALE. No amount of testosterone this FEMALE injects can change that fact.
I am shocked by the shoddy level of sex education you have received thus far. Let this be your first remedial lesson.
By the way -- you will also find that apart from this female's physical characteristics that make her a female (Uterus, birth canal, ovaries, hips) she also has the two female X sex chromosomes. You know, two of the things that makes it possible for the male and female to combine to create new life.
I watch Bones and CSI so I do know this stuff.
The 2000s
November 13, 2008 - 14:29 ET by KC MulvilleAnd when God was surfing the decades for entertainment, the angels suggested that he visit the 2000s. But when He found it such a freak show, he went back to the 1540s. At least they could sing properly back in the 1540s.
X Files
November 13, 2008 - 14:30 ET by bschoomReminds me of the story 'Oregon town elects nation's first Transvestite Mayor'.
you mean XX Files
November 13, 2008 - 20:45 ET by lotrTo those who contend this woman is a woman: Correct you are!
She is genetically female right down to her DNA, possessing two X chromosomes. No matter how much $$$ she blew on genital mutilation and modification of secondary sex characteristics, at the end of the day she is still female right down to the very fabric of her being.
Funny how God will not be made a fool.
And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. -- Edgar Allan Poe
What would make a good story.
November 13, 2008 - 14:32 ET by TexndocInstead of ABC and Walters playing up this "man" pregnant crap, when it's just a story of two lesbians, I wish a serious reporter would maybe do a story about how does this story play in the gay community? They know "he's" not a "pregnant man" but ABC and Walters insist on the sensational angle. Is this helping or hurting causes like Prop 8? Would a story of 2 lesbians and their child not be more palatable to the public than a manufactured freak show?
Ba-Wa? Larry King? Abc? West Hollywood?
NotMan!
November 13, 2008 - 14:32 ET by NorthCoasterPregnant woman, who looks like a man, is pregnant again!
I know it's not PC to say this, but this "pregnant man" story...
November 13, 2008 - 14:39 ET by PrairieSkyjust creeps me out. I understand the sex-change angle and everything, but the fact is, that despite this person's outward appearance, "he-she" is in fact biologically and genetically a "she" which is why "he-she" was, and is apparently again, able to have a baby.
I have some real questions about why this person wanted to become a man in the first place. The urge to physically give birth to a child is, I think it is safe to say, a distinctly "female" thing to have. Why did this person want to become a male? "He-she" apparently wanted to become a man in appearance, and yet wants to retain his/her ability to give birth, which is the quintessential and defining ability of women.
Am I the only one who is confused by this?
And, ABC's continued fascination with this story is bizarre.
This whole story ranks at the top of my "weird stuff-o-meter!"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
No, you're not the only
November 13, 2008 - 14:43 ET by motherbeltNo, you're not the only one. I asked the same question above.
And I think it's beyond creepy into downright sick and perverted.
PS... Don't ever
November 13, 2008 - 14:43 ET by Clear thinkerPS...
Don't ever apologize for not being PC. You as a free American should not be made to feel guilty for speaking the truth. This story is "creepy"!
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Amen
November 13, 2008 - 14:59 ET by moderncommentaries83Thank you for saying what should be glaringly obvious.
Do you really know what this does? This reduces children to commodities, possessions...accessories that are to be created (or, sadly) destroyed as needed to fit one's lifestyle.
It makes me sick that we not only celebrate such behavior, but condemn and are hostile toward, say, a family like the Duggars who have several children and a strong, traditional marriage rooted in faith.
Everything is topsy-turvy in the modern world.
And liberals confidently proclaim the youth will continue to make things more liberal. Uh-uh. Youth rebels against authority, and you don't rebel against liberals by becoming more liberal...
Children are the new puppies!
November 13, 2008 - 16:41 ET by andophiroxiaIt seems that every special-interest group seems to legitamize their need to exist by having kids.
Feminists had kids but God forbid you involve the dad. Abort it if you don't want to keep it, or keep it but ditch dad, or do as some real hardcore ones did. Don't touch a filthy man, get inseminated. Awesome.
Gay people getting inseminated with their brother's/gay friend' sperm/sister's/lesbian friend's egg in order to have a kid of their own. Then, they predictably break up, and have all these kids in tow, not only where Mommy/Daddy went, but to deal with a non normal relationship.
They go and scream to think of the kids, but their own complicated "lifestyles" I think are pretty much indicative what they think of their children and their mental health and stability.
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
Clear...Thanks...
November 13, 2008 - 15:18 ET by PrairieSkyI've never been the most PC person in the world anyway...I have always tended to be the type of person that calls a spade a spade.
That said, I'm not trying to denigrate someone for their own personal choices and decisions concerning their perceived "sexual identity." But, the choices and decisions being made in this particular situation go way beyond that and strike me as very, very strange, and very possibly destructive.
Can you imagine how these parents are going to explain to their children, the circumstances surrounding their births? Lord help those kids...
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
I have never felt entirely
November 13, 2008 - 16:09 ET by SeashellI have never felt entirely comfortable with gay couples adopting kids, but this goes beyond the pale. I think it is almost sinister of these women to do this to these kids.
Seashell...It is clear that...
November 13, 2008 - 16:36 ET by PrairieSkythat the "he/she" that is having these children is only thinking of him/herself. I can't even begin to imagine what is motivating this person to do this, but I have a suspicion that some sort of warped desire for attention may be a big part of it.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
Conservatives should embrace this story
November 13, 2008 - 14:48 ET by TexndocThere's really no better example of political correctness run-amuck. She wants to be called "he", she gets pregnant, the PC police insist she be called "he", and all the media gets stupid. How can "he" be pregnant!?!!
Awwww, ain't that sweet? A
November 13, 2008 - 15:18 ET by winston smithAwwww, ain't that sweet? A regular Kodak moment. Like something out of Disney. And who got "him" pregnant? It must have been outside the "marriage". Or was "she" previously a "he" who still has some of the equipment attached and operational? Thanks ABC for the perverted freak show, I was really getting bored watching stories about the financial collapse of nearly every major industry in the U.S. and how we'll all be living under socialism in a matter of months. It's comforting to know that the "regular" people out there are going about the business of their "normal" private lives.
Tex
November 14, 2008 - 16:02 ET by NorthCoasterIt's just like telling the King he has no clothes. Some folks just don't recognize the obvious.
Hell no!
November 13, 2008 - 15:06 ET by FinerThingsClubMemberInTrainingYou're spot on.
It's creepy as all get-out. Even my most socially liberally friends are miffed by this one.
You can only think of the hell this kid will experience on the playground in about seven-eight years.
It's beyond selfish to me.
Barbara points out it says
November 13, 2008 - 14:49 ET by suzycreamcheeseBarbara points out it says "male" on his driver's license, and "he's pregnant"! How thid this happeth!!??? asks the idiot BaWa.
Via the vagina to the ovaries, Babwa.
Look at the smug smile on the woman (father?) in that relationship. "Look at me! I'm so hip and trendy." Wonder how much money they made off this farce?
Baba, you might want to
November 13, 2008 - 15:14 ET by motherbeltBaba, you might want to check into why it says "Male" on his driver's license. That's where the error is.
"This" happened because she checked the "male" box. Period.
Since many love to assume...here I am to bust the falicy..
November 14, 2008 - 16:16 ET by AshleeAre you serious?! Because she checked the 'male' box? Sorry, it's not that easy, that isn't how it works.
Transexual people not ONLY need to go through years of therapy (even if they are completely happy, well adjusted people outside of their gender issue) and basically feel that not only are they in NEED of therapy (admittedly some if not most are, just because of the scars from years of trying to fit in to avoid critique the likes of which is *beautifully* exhibited here,) and also have to PROVE to a psychologist that this is indeed truely how they feel.
Imagine if you had to PROVE your gender before you could live it, sure, its not impossible, but an annoyance that transexuals are ALL too happy to go through, and for what? Many here would claim to 'mutilate their bodies.' That is utter BS.
'Then why Ashlee, why do these FREAKS do it?'
Because its who they are. Simple as that. People ARE treated differently based upon gender and not even just in the realm of sex and love. These are not 'gay men' who want to legally marry. These are not crossdressers who want to live that way all the time. Most of these people are otherwise NORMAL men and women mentally who happen to have a brain that cannot reconcile with the social role their anatomy puts them into, and in many cases, most resent said anatomy as well as it feels 'wrong.'
But enough of all that, my point is, don't go assuming stuff just so you can get a verbal jab in. I dont mean to sound aggressive MB so forgive me if I do, I've read ALOT of the posts here outside of the gay/trans issue and by GOD we are on the same page on oh so much and I *do* respect you and others here, even if we disagree. But like I said, to change even the slightest thing such as the letter on your liscense after 'sex:' is a long and arduous process.
Not only in most states do you need to have your records amended to reflect 'female' or 'male' (depending on the situation, and a process which requires you have already 'lived' as the new gender for over a year AND have multiple letters of clearance to do so from doctors and psychiatrists) but some states even require you have the whole process complete, something that many transexuals need to wait years to do due to the high cost of surgery; all to which most are all too hapy to deal with, and for what again?
To feel comfortable and be themselves without the constant critique of society and themselves. To finally reconcile body and mind.
Besides, if it was as easy as checking a box, you'd have a fiasco on your hands.
Again, I really do want to reiterate that while I am passionate about this and know my stuff, I mean no disrespect or to vcome off as aggressive or assaulting to anyone here. I'm just fed up with people just talking so horribly about these people. They are humans just like you or I.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
What the hell is all of this and why does anyone care?
November 13, 2008 - 15:25 ET by ThalpyWhat the hell is all of this and why does anyone care?
Anyone else think this...
November 13, 2008 - 15:33 ET by CortillaenAnyone else think this... um... thing... is seriously screwed up in the head? The whole "I was a guy/girl in a girl/guy's body, so I changed my body" shtick is creepy enough, but this is "I was a guy in a girl's body so I changed my body but decided to keep part of my girl body because I wanted to still do things that only girls can do so now I'm a guy with girl desires in a half-guy, half-girl body, and I'm having kids". Yeesh...
www.daybydaycartoon.... Proving that conservative comedy is very real.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." - Miyamoto Musashi
I'm at a loss...
November 13, 2008 - 15:48 ET by killbill2The MSM has gone so far adrift it's almost as if they are broadcasting to another species that I don't belong to and can't identify with... This isn't news, it's not even human interest fluff... it's a freak show.
"Bearded lady has baby... Lobsterboy say's he's not the father!!!"
What a shocker.
November 13, 2008 - 15:49 ET by SickofLibsWow. Beatie waited almost 3 whole months before she started up again with the turkey baster.
Well, at least ABC admits to be "exclusively" idiotic.
I forgot about the turkey
November 13, 2008 - 16:17 ET by SeashellI forgot about the turkey baster. Imagine what these kids will go through. It's bad enough that their birth mom is daddy but that they were conceived with a turkey baster? What awfully selfish people.
did they book these
November 13, 2008 - 16:42 ET by katainkentdid they book these children in advance for the years of therapy they're going to need?
what a selfish misuse of such a wonderful gift.
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gross
November 13, 2008 - 17:08 ET by right of wayjust looking at that person (man? woman?) makes me sick.
As a Woman....
November 13, 2008 - 21:11 ET by BiasedGirlThis story pisses me off. She is NOT a Man. She is a woman who chooses to dress and look like a man, but clearly she still has all those lovely woman parts that God gave Her. I can dress my Cat up as a Dog for Halloween, it doesn't make my Cat a Dog.
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Good evening Girl
November 13, 2008 - 21:22 ET by cocodrieYou beat me to it. I was thinking of catching the neighbor's cat and glue feathers on it to make a bird. You should be insulted by the MSM trying to create their own reality. It was impressive when God created Adam, but when He created Eve, I think the angels said "you saved the best for last". These deviates are a disgrace to the human race.
I'm usually pretty liberal bout these things
November 13, 2008 - 21:57 ET by shawn228........but there is something so wrong about this picture
When I look at it, I feel like I got a ice water enema. Must make me a hate monger
He had my vote
So if I re-arrange the
November 13, 2008 - 22:35 ET by Dan DiegoSo if I re-arrange the plumbing on my washing machine, Walters will accept that it's now a hot tub.
Manipulative language
November 14, 2008 - 06:11 ET by Blogger Guy00001It's obvious that no man can ever become pregnant. If it becomes pregnant, it's a woman.
What this article, and leftist wackos in general are trying to do, is program our minds so that the words "man" and "woman" become confused, fuzzy and interchangeable. That goes along with wacko leftist dogma that there are no real "sexes" and that "gender" can be changed with a few pills and cuts of a scalpel.
excuse me whileI go..
November 14, 2008 - 08:35 ET by ginagwen7BARF