alls I know is i finally get to kill somebody

everyone calls me "psycho"

NRA - yes good move - looks like Charlton Heston may be our next president again:( 

My dad lives in Sun City now - he says there's hardly any crime there - all those WW2 retirees pack heat - he always has as well...

Answer me these two questions: First, why have their been so many shootings in "gun-free" zones? Second, is it reasonable to believe a person who intends to break the law by shooting someone will be deterred by breaking the law to obtain a gun? Actually, you can just answer the second question. That's all that's necessary in evaluating any law which would prohibit guns.

"It's not that I think it should be gone completely...just more laws,
more laws and more laws and more laws...controlling this right..." Riiight, because the "more and more laws" strategy has always helped every problem it's been applied to... "This just in: Laws don't solve problems. People do."

"even that religiously devout grand citizen can let his fire burn a little too hot and someone may get hurt" Pathetic attempt at scare-mongering, pal. The "give someone a gun and they go psycho" argument wore out its dishonest welcome before it was first used. The point of guns IS to hurt people; specifically, people who are trying to do you, your family, or even a random stranger harm. The whole fear of being hurt thing tends to make potential criminals think twice, and those who fail that fear check get to experience said pain (usually accompanied by debilitation) first-hand. The rare nutjob who manages to get a gun is more likely to be subdued by an armed populace than an unarmed one.

"so screw this society" Thanks for letting us know your true feelings. By all means, leave this pathetic hell-hole if you despise it so much.

"at least Japan only has to worry about slashings for the most part." Mm-hm... Statistics please? Since you are interested in facts, try using some. While you're at it, consider the difference in difficulty between stopping a knife-wielding killer with just your bare hands compared to stopping a gunman with a gun of your own. A knife slash is considerably more deadly than I think you realize (supported by your "only has to worry..."). When you get done with that, consider the likelihood that (I'll be nice and assume that no Japanese guns find their way onto the streets), with the current state of international markets, no guns can be smuggled into the country and the difficulty in stopping a gunman with your bare hands.

"Times change...and yes society needs to move as well" Society needs to move away from being able to protect itself? That's an interesting position to take... a stupid one, too. Before advocating change, establish that the given change is good. Otherwise, you get made fun of by people who point out that getting mauled is a change but not a good one.

"if we wanted everything the way it was set up in the 18th century" As far as rights go, yeah, I think they did a pretty good job. Times change, people change, technology changes. Basic rights shouldn't. Again, before advocating change, establish that the given change is good. Change for its own sake is idiotic at best, suicidal at worst. Instead, changes should be made in areas that have problems. Good luck trying to prove that having the right to protect yourself with a gun (which is also a deterrent against criminals even provoking such defense) is a problem.

"well then we haven't been doing too well" Most people here would attribute that to leftist ideas such as gun "control" being implemented. Feel free to argue otherwise, but blanket statements like that certainly don't help your position.

"so now it's time to realize this right needs more control." Better yet, wake up and take a look at the real world. "Now it's time to realize taking guns away from the general public does not prevent criminals from obtaining them." Prove, factually, that government gun "control" lowers crime (picking a single city with strict gun laws and low crime will be refuted with DC, so don't bother with the single example approach), and I'll join the crusade to outlaw guns. Since you can't, I suggest you reevaluate your position.

I direct you back to the second of the questions I asked starting this post. You want to "control" something that isn't controllable. Making having a gun a crime does not prevent criminals intending to use such guns from obtaining them. Instead, you only ensure that criminals have little to fear from their victims.

www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.

"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi

Dan, I picture a short fat bald man sitting naked by his computer looking a pictures of little boys, squinting through round thick glasses...Think this guy wants all the guns gone so someone will not shoot him when he molests their kid?

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

but I'm not too worried about it :) his comment was just a little too redneck for my taste...if that's how someone chooses to live, so be it. Who am I to say ANYTHING. rednecks, guns, the ugly chick in the conservative t-shirts ad...just like heaven