In her April 24 post at The Seeker blog, Chicago Tribune's Manya Brachear asked readers how they would keep the peace between Armenian and Greek Orthodox priests that maintain the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. Brachear also noted the concern at least one reader of the Tribune expressed as to the grammatically, historically, and theologically sloppy way in which the print edition rendered a caption describing the church (emphasis mine):
Revered by most Christians as the site of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the sanctuary was built over the place where Jesus is said to have been buried.
It’s the latter description of the church that sparked a newsroom debate this week. Reader Marcia Smith Marzec of Joliet pointed out that a caption in the Tribune’s April 21 edition described the church as "built over the site in Jerusalem where Jesus is said to be buried."
"Even non-believers know that for Christians, Christ rose from the dead, and therefore is not ‘buried’ anywhere," Marzec wrote.
After surveying the staff for solutions, our public editor, Tim McNulty, ruled that the caption could have been more accurate. "Without getting all Sister Bernadette on you, I think it is wrong," he said. "What’s needed here is the ‘perfect infinitive’ that shows an action prior to the verb."
McNulty argued for "where Jesus is said to have been buried." Simply replacing the word "is" with "was" wouldn’t work because people are still saying that Jesus was buried there, "even as we all know that the place is empty now."
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Brachear must have just
April 25, 2008 - 13:58 ET by suzycreamcheeseBrachear must have just watched a Simcha Jacobovici/James Cameron Christian production. She seems a little discombobulated.
To be honest, Islam is the
April 25, 2008 - 14:50 ET by JungusTo be honest, Islam is the major religion in Palestine and they believe that either there where 2 Jesus' (one crucified and one escaped) or that the "real" Jesus escaped and left someone else to die.
In other words, they think that someone connected closely to Jesus (if not Christ himself) is buried there. So I can see where she might have picked that up.
Islam nothing
April 25, 2008 - 23:29 ET by VinceP1974Islam didn't make its way over to Israel until more than 500 years after these events occured. It offers no new information that is credible.
Sorry, gotta go with the Tribune
April 25, 2008 - 14:50 ET by nkviking75Much as I hate to do it, I have to side with the Trib on this one. Jesus was buried. He didn't stay buried, but he was buried.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
I thought---
April 25, 2008 - 14:56 ET by misterbillI thought he was entombed????
You're right
April 25, 2008 - 15:05 ET by JungusYou're right nkviking75, I ment to say why she would slip up on implying that Jesus is still buried there. My bad.
I'm a little confused as to
April 25, 2008 - 18:39 ET by CortillaenI'm a little confused as to what you are agreeing with: The original, printed caption, "...where Jesus is said to be buried", McNulty's correction, "...where Jesus is said to have been buried", or the correction McNulty dismissed, "...where Jesus was said to be buried"? I agree with McNulty, but his is a correction of the actual caption from the ChiTrib article, so I would think that means he and I both disagree with the print version. Stupid English language...
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Buried or entombed
April 25, 2008 - 23:36 ET by VinceP1974Matthew 27:59 Joseph took the body [of Jesus], wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,and placed it in his own new tomb that he had cut in the rock.Then he rolled a great stone across the entrance of the tomb and went away
Mark 15:46 After Joseph bought a linen cloth and took down the body [of Jesus], he wrapped it in the linen and placed it in a tomb cut out of the rock. Then he rolled a stone across the entrance of the tomb
Luke 23:53 Then he took it down, wrapped it in a linen cloth, and placed it in a tomb cut out of the rock, where no one had yet been buried
John 19:41 Now at the place where Jesus was crucified there was a garden, and in the garden was a new tomb where no one had yet been buried.
I was at this place in Israel, it's called the Garden Tomb. It's right next to a dingy gas station/bus stop that has a little rocky hill adjacent to it with a skull pattern on its face.
The website for it is here
http://www.gardentomb.com/
New writers needed
April 26, 2008 - 08:58 ET by CobraMan"After surveying the staff for solutions, our public editor, Tim McNulty, ruled that the caption could have been more accurate."
And even after "surveying the staff," they still get it wrong. Here's a suggestion: Laid to Rest. You know, oldspeak (language that is rarely used any more) for buried, entombed, interred, etc. It's past tense, and non-specific and is, therefore, universal in application for past events, even for a case of resurrection like how Jesus was "laid to rest" but didn't' stay that way for long.