Keith Olbermann this week has been happier than Ralphie Parker on Christmas morning over a left-wing group-generated controversy over Bill O'Reilly. But like the BB-gun-receiving protagonist of "A Christmas Story," lil' Keithie needs to know the dangers of (metaphorically) putting his eye out. After all, on September 9 on NBC's "Football Night in America," Olbermann made a cryptic crack that could be taken to be racially insensitive, if not racist.
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On Tuesday's "Countdown," Olbermann awarded O'Reilly both the "worser" and "worst" person in the world awards to his higher-rated competition at the Fox News Channel. O'Reilly, Olbermann thundered, is a 59-year old "passive-aggressive racist" for his recent remarks about his visit to a soul food restaurant.
Yet 16 days earlier, Olbermann narrated over a highlight reel of the September 9 Buffalo Bills/Denver Bronco game with an odd word-play involving a black wide receiver's first name:
With the Denver drive having stalled, Roscoe Parrish on the punt return. Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles at its finest. He could go the entire distance and does and it's seven-zip Bills.
Now, I'm not saying Olbermann is a "passive-aggressive racist," but a man who makes jokes about a soul food restaurant being the reason for a black athlete's success on the football field should be a bit more circumspect, especially since O'Reilly colleague and black journalist Juan Williams has defended O'Reilly, saying his remarks were grossly taken out of context.
Update 14:00 | Matthew Sheffield. The situations are so eerily similar it's almost enough to believe in karma. There's no possible scenario that O'Reilly can be considered a racist without Olbermann being considered one as well.
Keith Olbermann is a man living in a glass house. He really ought not to throw stones.
Reporters who are going ga-ga over O'Reilly's "racism" need to start looking into Olbermann's.
—Ken Shepherd is Managing Editor of NewsBusters
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This guy is a parody with
September 27, 2007 - 13:03 ET by AvatarThis guy is a parody with nearly zero influence. I still fail to see why we give this clown so much time. Saying that this clown is legitimate news media is the same as asserting that the National Inquirer is a legitimate newspaper.
I wonder if he realizes how obvious his comb-over really is.
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Someone here brought up
September 27, 2007 - 13:15 ET by motherbeltSomeone here brought up this incident a week ago.
It's plain that the MSM has 0, that is zero, zip, nada interest in this. After all, Keith is one of them; he can make racial cracks all day, he could probably joke about carrying a football like a watermelon, because they "know" it's all in good fun (That Olbermann, he's a riot!!) O'Reilly or anyone else, on the other hand, they "know" is a racist, so he can't.
<sarc off>
Frankly, I don't think "Roscoe's Chicken & Waffles" is a racist comment, but you have to wonder how the "racial arbiters" let this one go, and yet get their jockeys in a wad over another one.
Nevermind, I answered my own question, before I even asked it.
OMG, Keith Olbermann has a combover??? I never noticed, but then I don't watch his show and don't pay particular attention to pictures of him either. But from the photo up here, I think it looks more like a toupee.
Macaca Motherbelt
September 27, 2007 - 13:31 ET by vrwc13Macaca:
I guess it just depends upon what the definition of Macaca is!
v
mother... "But from the
September 27, 2007 - 13:41 ET by Clear thinkermother...
"But from the photo up here, I think it looks more like a toupee."
That's what happens to people when they constantly wear a dunce cap!
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I'M THE 1...
September 27, 2007 - 16:36 ET by danybhoyI'm the 1 who has brought this up, in 2 different BathTubBoy references, thanks for remembering. The only media person talking about this to my knowledge is John Gibson on his radio show. I mentioned Jimmy the Greek, Imus, Rush,& Howerd Cossell, they all got sacked from their gigs for what they said. BathTubBoy should be fired by the powers at GE/NBC, but he is a protected class by himself.
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Whoa whoa whoa. "but a
September 27, 2007 - 13:19 ET by balboaWhoa whoa whoa.
"but a man who makes jokes about a soul food restaurant being the reason for a black athlete's success on the football field should be a bit more circumspect"
Where did Olberman say that? Imply that?
Yeah I agree, balboa.. I'm
September 27, 2007 - 13:27 ET by WisdomYeah I agree, balboa.. I'm wondering that too. Keith does that when he narrates sports highlights.. he just gives nicknames to everybody. And since this player's name is Roscoe... Roscoe's Chicken n Waffles is what he thought of. While I don't like watching Keith's show, I do like listening to his sports commentary. I think its a bad idea for Newsbusters to try to imply any kind of racist remark out of this, its going to do nothing but make them look bad.
No one here is implying that
September 27, 2007 - 13:52 ET by motherbeltNo one here is implying that it's racist; in fact I said in my post I didn't think it was. But I also said you have to wonder how the "racial arbiters" let this one
go, and yet get their jockeys in a wad over another one. Maybe wonder WHY they let one go and not another would be a better question.
It's the question of "who gets to decide?"
When conservatives "defend" Ann Coulter by saying "She says outrageous things; it's what she does; it's her bread and butter!" that's not acceptable to whoever was offended. So why should anyone accept "that's what Olbermann does, he gives everyone nicknames" ? Especially when it involves a black player and a black soul-food restaurant?
No one here is implying
September 27, 2007 - 14:00 ET by WisdomNo one here is implying that it's racist;
Uh, have you seen the big red RACIST stamp on Keith's picture?
We SHOULD accept the fact that Keith's sports commentary does involve nicknames because it shows he didn't just say that because the player was black or whatever you want to call it. Go ahead, someone get a hold of Roscoe Parrish and see if he was offended. If he comes out and says he finds it offensive, I will change my stance.
Sorry, I missed it...I was
September 27, 2007 - 14:04 ET by motherbeltSorry, I missed it...I was too busy looking at his combover LOL.
I SAID I don't pay any attention to pictures of him!!
I wouldn't shy away from
September 27, 2007 - 14:49 ET by mattmI wouldn't shy away from calling any of these Libs racist. They focus on race, gender, cultural origin and other superficial aspects of people. Why?
Could it be because they are the racists? Is that why they favor affirmative action - because non-whites, and white females can't succeed without help?
Some guy calls Juan Williams a "happy negro" because he didn't agree that O'Reilly is Hitler, and that's not looked at as a racist comment? Jesse Jackson claimed that blacks can't be racist, yet I have been a victim of anti-white sentiments...but that's O.K. because their great great great grandfather was a slave....And I can't say diddley about it because then I'll be considered a racist.
Frankly, I don't think there are too many racists around anymore, other than Sheets Byrd and a few other Jim Crow Democrat holdovers, I just think Libs use it as a propaganda tool...but are never called on it themselves...
Hillary calls a guy a 'f...ing Jew B...ard' and gets away with it... Condi is called, by Liberals, a house marm or an aunt Jemima...nobody cares.... Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton said nothing....
So, until the hypocrisy and double-standards end, I will consider all Liberals to be racists until proven otherwise.
Liberals get a pass on
September 27, 2007 - 15:50 ET by TruthMongerLiberals get a pass on racism - there can be no denying it...
Meanwhile racist accusations towards conservatives are CONSTANTLY MANUFACTURED out of nothing...
its a DOUBLE-DOUBLE STANDARD
or at least a double standard with hamhocks n' black-eyed peas
Biden would just worry
September 27, 2007 - 16:18 ET by DRM 23Biden would just worry about Roscoe being clean and speaking well. Senator Byrd could not make a comment about Roscoe until, like a good mechanic, he checked under his "hood." Jessie Jackson may think that Roscoe is acting a little too white. Which I didn't realize was such a crime. I guess you can only be racist if you are a conservative.
mattm: "Hillary calls a
September 27, 2007 - 16:43 ET by Jermattm:
"Hillary calls a guy a 'f...ing Jew B...ard' and gets away with it...."
Source?
Thanks, Jer
source ...
September 27, 2007 - 18:00 ET by Dave PierreOf course she denies it, but here's a source:
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/07/16/hillary.book.response.02/index.html
"The three people identified by Oppenheimer (the alleged target of the alleged slur) told CNN that Rodham uttered the slur ..."
Interesting article, Dave,
September 27, 2007 - 23:47 ET by JerInteresting article, Dave, thanks for the link.
Jer
No one here is implying
September 27, 2007 - 16:33 ET by motherbeltNo one here is implying that it's racist;- motherbelt
Uh, have you seen the big red RACIST stamp on Keith's picture? -Wisdom
I was just tracking my comments because I was looking for a question I asked to see if there was an answer. I didn't find it, but I found something else interesting: a blog post from a couple of days ago with the headline MSNBC Graphic Smears O'Reilly and there is a screen-shot of an MSNBC show with a picture of BOR and the graphic "Anchor's Racist Comments."
Now I know why the pic of Olbermann at the top of this post has RACIST stamped across his face. Sauce for the gander.
Ken, I apologize for taking Wisdom's accusation that you really were calling KO a racist (I thought it was unusual that there was no question mark on it when he called my attention to it) at face value. Now I see what your point was.
I think Wisdom owes you an apology too.
I don't owe anyone an
September 27, 2007 - 16:43 ET by WisdomI don't owe anyone an apology. I never defended MSNBC's use of using the graphic "Anchor's Racist Comments" In fact, I don't defend anyone calling BOR racist either, ignorant in this situation yes, racist no. I got from the beginning what Newsbusters was trying to do and I think to try to compare the situations is completely ridiculous and is only going to make NB look bad in the long run and less credible. Although, it may temporarily spark a little controversy and get some site hits up so NB probably knows what they're doing.
You think?
September 27, 2007 - 15:51 ET by general companyI think its a bad idea for Newsbusters to try to imply any kind of racist remark out of this,
That is the point, this is as ridiculous as suggesting BOR's comment were racist. The only difference is that Oberdude gets a pass. BTW he is and always was a lousy sports analyst, never so happy to see anyone leave ESPN then this creep.
"Where did Olberman say
September 27, 2007 - 16:08 ET by Dave Pierre"Where did Olberman say that? Imply that?"
Read the transcript. Watch the video. He said, "Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles at its finest." In other words, the food from the restaurant propelled him.
Got it?
No, that's wrong, IMO. The
September 27, 2007 - 16:12 ET by balboaNo, that's wrong, IMO. The guy's name is Roscoe. So his nickname, in ESPN-esque parlance would be Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles.
do you know what chicken and
September 27, 2007 - 16:15 ET by TruthMongerdo you know what chicken and waffles mean balboa? do you know the background?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_and_waffles
If Rush would have said this on ESPN he would have been fired - oh wait HE WAS FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's a restaurant called
September 27, 2007 - 16:17 ET by balboaThere's a restaurant called Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles. The guy's name is Roscoe.
if Rush woulda said it - he
September 27, 2007 - 16:51 ET by TruthMongerif Rush woulda said it - he woulda been fired...
and you'd be on here whining about his racist comment...
and of course WE would be defending his remarks as no big deal...
of course we are just targeting the liberal hypocracy here
what KO said was really no big deal to us...not because we are racist - but because what he and O'Rielly said really are no big deal....
And I don't think what
September 27, 2007 - 17:05 ET by balboaAnd I don't think what O'Reilly MEANT was wrong, just worded a little poorly.
Plus, Rush doesn't have a history of using nicknames with athletes, does he? Olberman does. Most of Rush's nicknames are derogatory in nature.
Oh, aye, since KO makes a
September 27, 2007 - 19:39 ET by CortillaenOh, aye, since KO makes a habit of tagging
people with nicknames, it's fine when he gives a racially-motivated one to
someone. [/sarc] Look, no one here is saying that KO was being racist, although
there is no way you can deny that "Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles" is a
nickname with racial connotations. The stamp was a bit of irony, as in judging
KO by the same standard he judges others. Taking the stamp as Ken's proclamation
of KO's racism requires as jaded a view as considering BOR's comments
racist. In fact, BOR's comments were quite elegant in the delivery of his
sentiments, something to which certain people are apparently blind. Then
again, the biased mind only perceives what is wants.
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HIS NAME IS ROSCOE!!!!!!
September 27, 2007 - 19:41 ET by mike dYou are ALLLLLLL RACIST for connecting Chicken and Waffles to the color of his skin, when CLEARLY KO was connecting his name, not his skin.
No good racists, all of you!
Look at some other names--
Shawn "Super Size Me" McDonalds
Ben Rothlisberger "with cheese"
Who's the racist? you are, for linking the pun to the color of the person.
RACISTS!
thank you for defending
September 28, 2007 - 16:51 ET by TruthMongerthank you for defending Bill O'Reilly! without realizing it of course...
i think this is the fourth or fifth time Bill has been vindicated on this thread alone - good mileage...
Balboa, JC, et al --
September 27, 2007 - 16:41 ET by Noel SheppardB, JC, et al --
This is kind of a hip reference by KO inasmuch as chicken and waffles dates back to the '30s when celebrities out on the town in Harlem would go to Wells Supper Club after a show. Initially, since it was early morning, folks didn't know whether to have dinner or breakfast. Ergo, chicken and waffles.
Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles, a fairly successful chain in Southern California, was KO's real reference, all seemingly innocent.
However, if Rush Limbaugh had made such a comment when he was working for ESPN, I don't think media would have been forgiving. After all, no matter how you slice, this is making a pun out of a black man's name with a soul food dish/restaurant. It's acceptance, coming from a white man, is therefore going to be determined by the political views of said white man.
Those that don't see the hypocrisy here are frankly either deluded or kidding themselves, for we sadly live in a society where not only are certain races allowed to make racial jokes, but so are liberal caucasians.
Isn't this political correctness running amok? ns
B-I-N-G-O:)
September 27, 2007 - 16:47 ET by TruthMongerB-I-N-G-O:)
Noel, I don't recall Rush
September 27, 2007 - 16:51 ET by JerNoel, I don't recall Rush suffering any consequences several years ago after advising a black caller to take the "bone out of her nose". Do you think Limbaugh should have been condemned?
Jer
when did he say that?
September 27, 2007 - 17:03 ET by TruthMongerwhen did he say that?
Several years ago
September 27, 2007 - 17:28 ET by SanityClause"Several years ago"
Yeah, try sometime in the 70's, in an early Rush gig as a DJ using a pseudonym. Somebody already beat me to posting the snopes reference.
However, the way some still talk about it, you would think it happened last week. And, of course, Rush has apologised.
30 Years Ago?
September 27, 2007 - 17:51 ET by Del DolemonteYet another example of a double standard. When it's Rush uttering a racist statement when he was calling himself "Jeff Christie", or Dubyah driving drunk, "30 years ago" is the same as last week.
But if it's the Clintons or Jean-Claude Kerry, 30 years ago is "ancient history-please move on". (dot.org)
Jer
September 27, 2007 - 17:05 ET by Noel SheppardJer,
Sure. If that's what he said, it's disgraceful. I'd love to see a FULL transcript, and not from the idiots at Media Matters. ns
http://www.snopes.co...
September 27, 2007 - 17:16 ET by balboahttp://www.snopes.co...
thanks bal...
September 27, 2007 - 17:42 ET by TruthMongernow are you saying that rush is racist because of this...? that this indicates that he believes black people are an inferior, criminal race?
or is this something like comments on comedy central about inbred white hillbilly walmart shoppers - just "kinda funny" in a "totally harmless" way...according to CC apologists anyway...?
No, just that he has
September 27, 2007 - 22:00 ET by balboaNo, just that he has been, can be, and will be a gasbag.
just like KO then and BOR
September 28, 2007 - 16:52 ET by TruthMongerjust like KO then
and BOR is vindicated yet again...
Balboa
September 27, 2007 - 20:02 ET by Noel SheppardB,
I asked for a full transcript. This means nothing, but thank you for playing our game, and don't forget the parting gifts from Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills. ns
Sorry Noel, but bal gets to
September 27, 2007 - 20:19 ET by JerSorry Noel, but bal gets to return for tomorrow's show. Sometimes reasonable deductions must be drawn. Obviously, there is no transcript available from the 1970's broadcast in question. But, if you read the complete article at snopes, its nearly inconceivable that the attributed remarks weren't made. Limbaugh would have raised holy h*ll if it were otherwise.
Jer
Jer
September 27, 2007 - 22:56 ET by Noel SheppardJer,
Excuse me, but are you REALLY suggesting that some statement by Rush Limbaugh more than three decades ago, and more than a decade prior to him becoming a national radio personality, is relevant?
I said it before, if this is the best you folks have to prove that Rush is a racist -- with millions of hours of available transcripts since he became the most listened to political radio talk show host in the nation -- you all should turn in your ACLU cards and re-register as Independents!!! :-) ns
Noel: 1. Did I initially
September 28, 2007 - 00:20 ET by JerNoel:
1. Did I initially think the comment was more recently made? Yes, I incorrectly believed Rush had said it at some point during his present tenure as a nationally syndicated talk show host with the EIB network
2. Do I believe the remark is still relevant? Yes, for the reasons I stated in a previous post, although I concede it would have been of greater relevance had it been more recent
3. Is Rush a racist? I don't know, but as I also previously stated, I, personally, do not think he is, and, accordingly, am not attempting to prove that he is
4. Am I attempting to show that he has occasionally made racially insensitive comments? Yes
5. Should I turn in my ACLU card? Don't have one to turn in. O'Reilly has repeatedly advised that the ACLU is the "most dangerous organization in America"
6. Should I re-register as an independent? No such plans at the current time
But thanks for the advice,
Jer
Noel
September 28, 2007 - 10:22 ET by balboaI never sought out to prove that Rush is a racist, just that he'd made those remarks.
libs paint selves into corner - yet again
September 28, 2007 - 16:57 ET by TruthMongerwhat we have undeniably demonstrated here is that if Rush is a racist, and BOR is a racist, then KO is a racist...
But it's so great to see our resident leftoids vehemently defending KO against these dubious racist charges - and consequently Rush and BOR at the same time...
jordon fades back, shoots, and that's the game
I don't think I ever said
September 28, 2007 - 17:00 ET by balboaI don't think I ever said either was racist, did I?
Noel: Below is another
September 27, 2007 - 17:45 ET by JerNoel: Below is another link. The incident occurred more than just "several years ago" and possibly mitigates the offense, except that Rush seems to have a continued history of racially insensitive remarks. I don't think he is a racist, but I do believe he is very careless with his rhetoric, and since he has made a fortune despite, or pehaps because of, that fact, there is very little incentive for him to tone it down.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549
Jer
comedy central offends the
September 27, 2007 - 17:59 ET by TruthMongercomedy central offends the hell out of me as well - EVEN TODAY! So is that careless and insensitive of them...? Should they apolgize every day...?
Jer
September 27, 2007 - 20:09 ET by Noel SheppardJer,
I asked for transcripts. This is another out of context supposed quote. Sorry, Homey don't play that.
Gosh, you folks should be able to do better than this. This is the number one target for liberals in our nation besides George W Bush, and this is ALL you've got to make him a racist.
YAWN. :-) ns
Noel: I didn't realize you
September 27, 2007 - 20:29 ET by JerNoel: I didn't realize you had posted this until I had already commented on your reply to bal. Please refer to it above. Also, note that I had previously specifically stated my opinion that Rush was NOT a racist. Please don't imply otherwise.
Thanks, Jer
Noel, Homey?
September 27, 2007 - 20:45 ET by Dave RSorry, Homey don't play that.
LMAO-Nice to see that I am not the only fan of that wonderfully politically-incorrect show around here.
I thought it the show that Saturday Night Live could have been.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
That's because Rush has an
September 27, 2007 - 16:58 ET by WisdomThat's because Rush has an extensive history of making insensitive and
offensive remarks regarding minorities or other groups discriminated
upon. Olberman doesn't. Olberman has a history of saying some extremely
crazy things, but nothing close to the likes of insulting those groups
in this country that are consistently discriminated against.
This isn't "making a pun" of a "black man's name with a soul food restaurant." It's making a pun out of the only thing he could think of with Roscoe. When I think of the first name Roscoe and if I were attempting to make a nickname the only thing I would think of is Roscoe's Chicken 'n Waffles also.
IMO, Keith is crazy but he doesn't consistently offend discriminated groups. Rush has a history of problems with this so if he said the same thing Keith did, some would question his intent BASED ON HIS PAST. That is the only pass being handed out... your history. Now if you find a history of Olberman comments that have offended some discriminated groups then I would question Keith's intentions.
"That's because Rush has an
September 27, 2007 - 17:02 ET by TruthMonger"That's because Rush has an extensive history of making insensitive and
offensive remarks regarding minorities or other groups discriminated
upon."
Quotes please...?
I don't want to use a
September 27, 2007 - 17:15 ET by WisdomI don't want to use a MediaMatters link, but it is the only site with all the links up on one page. Don't be turned off by Media Matters, just bypass it and go to the links and see for yourself by listening to the audio and reading the transcripts.
http://mediamatters....
thanks Wisdom! this will be
September 27, 2007 - 17:17 ET by TruthMongerthanks Wisdom! this will be fun - be right back...
here you go wisdom - thanks for not running away...seriously...
September 27, 2007 - 17:27 ET by TruthMonger...here's a tiny part of the keith collection for you:
"...as we reported way back in October, involved a pre-penitentiary Paris Hilton. At that time, it wasn't the "A Slut and Battery" that drew our attention — it was what he said:Paris Hilton claims she was punched in the face yesterday morning at a nightclub in Hollywood 'Course she's had worse things happen to her face...And yes, that is what he meant...."
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/great_moments/
And please pick the worst Rush quote you can find on mediamatters and I'll be happy to clarify...
Thanks Truth, I will check
September 27, 2007 - 17:36 ET by WisdomThanks Truth, I will check it out when I get back. And nice to see we are so quick to defend for Paris Hilton :) ... Always have to look out for that girl, she's got it rough...LOL
i love that girl - might not
September 27, 2007 - 17:38 ET by TruthMongeri love that girl - might not get back to you until tomorrow - thanks again!
"Olberman has a history of
September 27, 2007 - 17:06 ET by TruthMonger"Olberman has a history of saying some extremely
crazy things, but nothing close to the likes of insulting those groups
in this country that are consistently discriminated against."
Republicans? Christians? Red Staters? etc...? All suffering severe discrimination in the blue regions right now...thanks to the likes of drool-bucket olbermann and company...
It's like the Gestapo is after us or something...
Wisdom
September 27, 2007 - 17:10 ET by Noel SheppardWisdom,
You have some FULL transcript quotes of Rush making insensitive and offensive remarks regarding minorities that you could share to back up your claim?
Furthermore, whether this was the only thing KO could think of or not, it is still a pun of a black man's name incorporating a soul food dish/restaurant. Honestly, if you can't see this, your SN is quite unfitting, and you should apply for a new one. :-) ns
Nice try at the personal jab
September 27, 2007 - 17:20 ET by WisdomNice try at the personal jab Noel. But I supplied TruthMonger with some links. If you can't see the vast array of comments by Rush Limbaugh that have been deemed offensive and insensitive in the past, then I don't know what to tell you. I like listening to Rush much, much more than Keith, but I'm still able to understand that he has made many controversial and insensitive remarks against discriminated groups over the years.
please see above
September 27, 2007 - 17:28 ET by TruthMongerplease see above
Witless,
September 27, 2007 - 21:08 ET by Dave RUhh, just exactly where in the US Constitution does it say that one has a right to not being offended?
Furthermore, I have been a Rush listener since day one, and I have never once heard him make any remarks about any "discriminated" against group that wasn't satirically based.
As for Olberman, he has a huge problem with those whom he doesn't agree with, particularly conservatives, whom he reserves the most vile references for, BTW.
-Oh, I forgot, as when it comes to hypocrites like yourself ((as pretty much every minority group in this country (including illegal aliens, thanks to brain-damaged libs like yourself) who now have more "rights" than any white person I know of-including me)), that is perfectly acceptable.
I live for the day when minorities in this country, particularly black Americans, finally wake-up and realize that their predicament is largely due to libs such as yourself, who throw them off the liberal plantation the very second they show any inclination to self-sufficiency.
Damn, that is going to be fun to watch.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
the case is closed on this
September 28, 2007 - 17:01 ET by TruthMongerthe case is closed on this now - KO has put the two-faced kabosh on a nice little smear fest the libs had ginned up against BOR...
another day of fighting crime at our heroic NB...
Rush's background is in
September 27, 2007 - 17:11 ET by balboaRush's background is in snarky political discourse. Olberman, yes NOW he's in snarky political discourse, but because he's a former sports guy, the intent behind the comment is not taken as being racist by the media. Rush's nicknames have a history of always being derisive. Is that fair? Nope. But after calling him Dingy Harry, etc., you've kinda made your bed, no?
The dingy
September 27, 2007 - 17:15 ET by Chris NormanThe dingy description fits, you must admit. If the man was any more dingy, Billy Mays would wash him in an infomercial.
That's pretty funny. :-) I
September 27, 2007 - 17:18 ET by balboaThat's pretty funny. :-) I just assumed it was a takeoff of "Dirty Harry."
I suppose it is. No matter
September 27, 2007 - 17:26 ET by Chris NormanI suppose it is. No matter what your politics, the senator's public personality is drab and colorless. He makes Orrin Hatch look like a screwball wild man...
olbermann is just as
September 27, 2007 - 17:34 ET by TruthMongerolbermann is just as "offensive" as Rush - but KO is welcomed into the MSM with open two-faced arms...but conservatives are run out of town - and worse yet usually under MANUFACTURED CIRCUMSTANCES - such as Rush and McNabb...Rush's criticism was of the Philidephia sports media - not McNabb - he was defending McNabb for having extra expectations forced up on him - he was suffering criticism at the time for not performing well - BUT WHO THE GD HELL CARES ABOUT THE TRUTH OF THAT SITUATION - IT WAS ALL THE MSM NEEDED TO SPRING INTO ACTION FROM THEIR WAITING PERCHES IN THE WINGS...
that's the salient point here...
And again who the hell cares if someone is offensive? You have the right to be offended. Celebrate it.
We're just calling libs out on this "racist, offensive comments" hypocracy...
They say that Bush is
September 27, 2007 - 17:49 ET by Chris NormanThey say that Bush is trying to destroy free speech, without saying how. Yet, it's the political correctness employed by liberal groups using the press as their enforcers that really is chilling free speech. It's the ultimate censorship because it makes people censor themselves.
Don't you love it when on
September 27, 2007 - 19:02 ET by motherbeltDon't you love it when on every channel, you see the same newly-offended liberal on every show, claiming that he/she is being "silenced"????
Ain't that the truth...
September 27, 2007 - 20:45 ET by CortillaenThe only thing of most libs being silenced is that little voice called reason. Of course, since this is another self-imposed silence, I suppose it fits the PC bill.
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"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the thi
Yes, it is a takeoff. He's
September 27, 2007 - 18:59 ET by motherbeltYes, it is a takeoff. He's not tough enough to be "Dirty Harry."
And I have to agree with Wisdom on one thing...Olbermann doesn't usually attack minority groups....but that's because he likes to make his attacks personal.
But I guess since he's not a minority or member of a disriminated group, it was fine that Keith called Chris Wallace "a monkey posing as a newscaster."
I hope I don't get challenged to come up with a whole list, because that just came right off the top of my head, and I'm not in the mood to do extensive googling. But I'm thinking (and I don't watch him) if he threw that out, he probably has nice things to say about other people he disagrees with too. But that's OK, as long as he doesn't insult minority groups.
No, I disagree; this isn't
September 27, 2007 - 13:25 ET by SMGalbraithNo, I disagree; this isn't even close to being racist or even racialist (which is the more accurate term).
Let's not engage in the same nonsense that many (not all) on the Left do when it comes to statements involving black Americans.
Granted, had O'Reilly made the comment Olbermann would have likely jumped on him for being, at the very least, racially insensitive. But Olbermann's is the smear artist's smear artist. Were smearing an Olympic sport, Olberman would be a multi-gold medal winner.
But we're not (I hope) going to get in the gutter with him. Let him swim in it by himself.
SMG
This is about consistency
September 27, 2007 - 13:30 ET by Matthew SheffieldNot from Olbermann but from the MSM. If they're going to ask whether O'Reilly is a racist, they need to ask whether Olbermann is one as well.
Reality
September 27, 2007 - 14:46 ET by JDWThe news media has been immunized from prevarication. The fight to control Internet, radio, journalism... is a goal to eliminate facts. Truth cannot survive in a socialistic world thus people such as Mr O'Reilly are smeared.
JDW
CFR: Chung, Riady, Hsia, Trie, Huang, Hsu, Paw... Who's looking?
delete
September 27, 2007 - 19:06 ET by motherbeltdelete
Olbiedog - Bigot in a glass house
September 27, 2007 - 13:33 ET by Gary HallThe man, Olbermann, is jsut another bigot. He has no tolerance of, and only demonstrates fierce hostility towards those who live in other houses.
Bigot - let's go to the Dictionary
Bigot:
(those were the definitions from 3 different dictionaries)
It's not racism unless the
September 27, 2007 - 13:36 ET by Chris NormanIt's not racism unless the MSM asks if it is. Don't bring this up again. Don't you know we here have absolutely no standing on matters like these?
This example of double standards
September 27, 2007 - 13:38 ET by Cape Conservativereminds me of recent sexist remarks made by Chris Matthews - same thing. Okay for anyone on the left to say whatever they wish, but watch what happens if someone on the right were to say something in a similar vein.
Violation of Geneva Codes
September 27, 2007 - 13:40 ET by Carl KolchakUhh, Ken, I think you've violated some Geneva Codes, by mentioning "Christmas Story" and Keith Olbermann in the same paragraph. Darren McGavin was a class act and "19th Nervous Breakdown" Olbermann is not.
"You'll shoot your eye out kid"
Olbermann's comment is
September 27, 2007 - 14:09 ET by sarcasmoIMO, if anything, even more questionable/clueless, but can't they both just be clueless instead of racist? At least, that's how I see it....
JMR
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That's what a sane person would say
September 27, 2007 - 14:11 ET by Matthew SheffieldHowever, the O'Reilly story was a Media Matters produced bit so the answer would be no.
Maybe "we" should...
September 27, 2007 - 14:16 ET by sarcasmoPointedly ask Media Matters' opinion WRT Keith's comment? ;)
And sadly, I'm sorely tempted to go play poker instead of being good & watching the debate tonight. I'll try to convince myself it's not worth it, but it's sure fun...
But thanks again for holding the RINOs' feet to the fire on that debate, especially with Keyes now in the mix and all this race-controversy/BS lately, that should make it quite a show.
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
Be careful Ole lard ass
September 27, 2007 - 14:16 ET by nicksmith112Be careful Ole lard ass Olberloon is a person of color.
Or is that man-tan-gel?
I'd like to apologize to the Lard community for my last remark.
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
Liberals are all racists that is why they focus on race
September 27, 2007 - 14:42 ET by Lame CherryOne speaks about what is on one's inner mind. Liberals always talk about fear, race, sodomy and being found out in their sins........it is why they have this literal phobia and accuse others of it.
The lady Olberman doth protest too much because of what he is.
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Right. And all
September 27, 2007 - 14:47 ET by JasonCRight. And all conservatives always talk about the War on Terror because they're secretly terrorists, right? Just following your pristine logic.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
naah - we're all WARRIORS:)!
September 27, 2007 - 16:30 ET by TruthMongernaah - we're all WARRIORS:)!
Lets see KO use a Nazi
September 27, 2007 - 15:24 ET by mlongLets see KO use a Nazi Salute,calls a Jewish man a monkey,an Hispanic
man a waterboy and now makes a Chicken remark regarding a Black
man...if O'Reilly is racist for what he said then what the heck is KO?
"If the mothers ruled the world there would be no god**** wars in the first place." Sally Fields
Yea Mothers like Susan Smith and Andrea Yates.
in what world are waffles
September 27, 2007 - 15:32 ET by crsheddin what world are waffles considered 'soul food'?
Actually, in Atlanta they
September 27, 2007 - 16:17 ET by Chris NormanActually, in Atlanta they are. Aretha Franklin owns one of the fried chicken and waffle restaurants there. I can recommend it.
crshedd is either a
September 27, 2007 - 16:19 ET by stratmancrshedd is either a Northerner or a foreigner.
Chicken and waffles are big in Cleveland, Ohio too. A now closed soul food joint a couple blocks from where I live had long lines going out the door every day at lunch and sometimes for dinner. Chicken and waffles were a sought-after specialty of the house. Don't forget mac&cheese, grits, greens and banana cream pie or sweet potato pie. These are some of the staples of soul food.
Eat 'em up, yum!
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
And I like everything you
September 27, 2007 - 16:24 ET by Chris NormanAnd I like everything you listed. Now, you've got me hungry. :)
Me too. I just looked in
September 27, 2007 - 16:54 ET by stratmanMe too.
I just looked in the kitchen and have mac&cheese and grits in the cupboard and chicken frozen in the freezer. Guess I could get in the car and get the rest at the grocery store.
What I would really like right now is some New Orleans gumbo, crawdad etouffee and a po' boy. I think I'm a little hungry. :-)
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
Strat, please stop, I'm
September 27, 2007 - 17:07 ET by Chris NormanStrat, please stop, I'm eying my eraser, wondering if properly sauced... :) Actually, last night, I enjoyed take out barbecue from Mr. Powdrell's Barbecue in Albuquerque. Brisket, pork ribs, smoked turkey leg, fried okra, black-eyed peas, and collard greens. Excellent. Now, if we only had a decent creole/cajun restaurant in Albuqueque - Pappadeaux and Copeland's are okay for chains, but...
That sounds like a little
September 27, 2007 - 17:18 ET by stratmanThat sounds like a little bit of heaven on earth, Chris.
I love okra! Glad to hear Albuquerque has some southern BBQ for you. I suffer from the same lack of good cajun cooking in Cleveland. We've got just about everything else in this town. You'd think that with the large southern influence in Cleveland's population - many of the black families have strong connections to the South - there would be a straight up cajun/creole restaurant. With some effort one can piece together most things either already prepared or the ingedients to prepare it from scratch. (Crayfish??)
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
Strat (with apologies to
September 27, 2007 - 17:56 ET by Chris NormanStrat (with apologies to Truth Monger and others),
As long as I have my Paul Prudhomme cookbooks, I'm okay. I even found a place that sells real andouille sausage here, in the Q.
Okay, no more food talk.
Strat
September 27, 2007 - 16:49 ET by Noel SheppardStrat,
Mac and cheese is soul food? Man, I used to live on that in college, and I'm as white as the undriven snow. :-)
My wife found a recipe for mac and cheese a few years ago that we call "Death by Mac and Cheese." The sauce actually starts with a creamy roux that you add the cheese to. Absolutely fantastic stuff. Unfortunately, it's sooooo good that your mind ignores all satiety symptoms and forces you to consume FAR beyond what your stomach can accommodate. :-) ns
You must have a lot of
September 27, 2007 - 17:04 ET by stratmanYou must have a lot of soul then Noel!
I was watching an episode of the British version of Gordon Ramsey's "Kitchen Nightmares" which featured a soul food restaurant in England he was recruited to "fix". The place was called Mamma Cherri's Soul Food Shack and they served mac&cheese. Don't know if the Brits liked it or not.
Your wife's version sounds fantastic. She sounds like a quality woman to take care of you so well.
Cheers to both of you.
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
For something different,
September 27, 2007 - 17:11 ET by Chris NormanFor something different, try Spicy Macaroni and Cheese. Go to www.epicurious.com, type in "spicy macaroni and cheese", and select the top recipe from Gourmet magazine from 1991. It's one of my stand-bys. I guarantee you won't be disppointed.
food forum it
September 27, 2007 - 17:12 ET by TruthMongercan you guys please take this to the food forum or im going to start doing Bible quotes...
Sorry. News bias is my
September 27, 2007 - 17:17 ET by Chris NormanSorry. News bias is my second favorite subject. My stomach and taste buds being the first. I get carried away sometimes... :)
Understood TM. Back on
September 27, 2007 - 17:24 ET by stratmanUnderstood TM.
Back on topic now.
Olbermann will flame out eventually. People get tired of listening to angry hyperbolic commentators in due course.
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
If only the point taken
September 27, 2007 - 17:41 ET by Chris NormanIf only the point taken from this whole manufactured controversy was recognizing the technique of using distorted and out of context comments in an attempt to destroy people to get a boost in ratings.
Not only that, but I
September 27, 2007 - 20:00 ET by JerNot only that, but I understand KO absolutely hates mac&cheese.
Jer
Except for medical reasons,
September 27, 2007 - 23:34 ET by stratmanExcept for medical reasons, hating mac&cheese seems almost un-American. Next you be telling me KO hates Mom and apple pie! ;-)
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
Are you kidding?!
September 27, 2007 - 19:22 ET by mike dLinking Roscoe Parrish to Chicken and Waffles is racist?
Um... hasn't ANYBODY here EVER heard of Roscoes Chicken and Waffles? ANYBODY?! It has nothing to do with his race, in fact to link these two together is CLEARLY RACIST ON YOUR PART, when OBVIOUSLY he was putting Mr. Parrish's first name, uh, duh, which is the same as a FAMOUS eatery in California and around the country.
www.roscoeschickenandwaffles.com
Jesus, Hasn't anyone of you Conservative Nerds ever watched SportsCenter and see what they do to names????!!!
...and BOR is vindicated yet
September 28, 2007 - 17:05 ET by TruthMonger...and BOR is vindicated yet again...like lemmings they are - all off the cliff...
WHAT WORLD???
September 27, 2007 - 21:00 ET by danybhoyIn the same world that tells me about how the steriotypes about fried chicken, bbq ribs, watermelons, pigs feet, & grits are generally eaten by blacks all the time. BTW, Growing up in the north, I never seen a waffle house up here, but you do in the south.
What BathTubBoy said was a lame attempt at comic relief during an NFL highlight package, but he should be held to the same standard as Rush, Imus, Cossell, & Jimmy The Greek. The fact that the MSM who have their panties in a wad about O'Reilly have exposed the double standard they judge people by. The bias is right out in the open, & nobody can deny it. BathTubBoy will never say "I'm sorry" for anything he says on air unless forced to by his paymasters. He will stay in place untill 1 of 2 things happens...1-he has it out with someone above him & he burns his bridges there. He's done that more then a couple of times. 2-Whoever is running cover for him gets sacked when that person's boss decides that MSNBC is losing too much money for too long.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
Apparently in the real
September 28, 2007 - 08:29 ET by Roger the ShrubberApparently in the real world, Sparky.
Wikipedia says this:
This unusual combination of foods is beloved by many people who are influenced by traditions of soul food passed down from past generations of their families.
And we're talking about chicken and waffles with syrup and butter, not with gravy, which is popular in Pa Dutch country (which I have found to be quite yummy).
Try Googling "chicken and waffles" and "soul food".
Chicken and Waffles
September 27, 2007 - 15:36 ET by genethemachineO'reilly was making a serious point about unfounded racial fears. His intent was clear to anyone willing to listen to the statements in context.
In what context is Olbermann's comment NOT rascist. Is Ichiro "sushi powered". A-rod taco bell powered? And I suppose that Peyton Manning is white bread and cracker powered.
I'll get shouted down anyway....
September 27, 2007 - 15:46 ET byWhen the thread was running about the "Nappy headed Ho's", I read some of the most racist stuff I've ever encountered. However, it wasn't from the commentator, but from NB members defending the commentator.
Nothing in this post comes anywhere near it, so I'm surprised this has even appeared.
one man's racist is another
September 27, 2007 - 15:56 ET by TruthMongerone man's racist is another man's freedom fighter:)
Good logic, excusing people
September 27, 2007 - 17:43 ET by Roger the ShrubberGood logic, excusing people speaking in poor taste by pointing out other people speaking in poor taste.
Your sense of relativism is amusing.
it makes sense to them, rog
September 27, 2007 - 17:51 ET by TruthMongerit makes sense to them, rog - we can be happy for that
Your sense of everything is amusing.
September 27, 2007 - 18:39 ET byVisiting NB is like; well it's like going to the zoo, isn't it, "Rogering in the Shrubbery"?
Have a look at the thread on "Nappy headed hoes", and if you're not offended by the majority (YEE HAW!!!) comments, then you must be a church burner too.
That's what I meant, ok?
Mocking Roger's moniker?
September 27, 2007 - 18:54 ET by Chris NormanMocking Roger's moniker? That's pretty rich, coming from someone who calls himself "Eyecare". It's like going to LensCrafters.
Snappy comeback. How will I
September 28, 2007 - 08:10 ET by Roger the ShrubberSnappy comeback. How will I ever get the sting of your wit to go away?
When you offer evidence of something, offer it. Saying "look it up yourself" would not fly in a court of law. Will your third opportunity be the charm?
I never said nobody has ever said anything offensive on this board. I merely pointed out that you are excusing Keefy for being just as boorish and asinine by using said thread (which you are too lazy or unable to find), somehow rationalizing that "two wrongs make a right"...
Bottom line here is that KO
September 27, 2007 - 16:02 ET by rimskyBottom line here is that KO can say whatever he wants, and the MSM turns a deaf ear. BOR's comments, OUT OF CONTEXT, get him fried. Double Standard, people.
Liberals, through their
September 27, 2007 - 16:44 ET by Chris NormanLiberals, through their politics, are innoculated from the Conservative's original sin of inborn racism.
Undercover Brother??
September 27, 2007 - 16:12 ET by compguytracyIsnt that a spoof from the Undercover Brother Movie? Chicken and waffles, sounds alot like what fuzzy zoeller said about tiger winning Masters (i hope he doesnt have collard greens and chicken, Tiger, btw, not black, only half or less) why is this not new like Oreilly? i hate Blowmann since he left whinespn and didnt like him then ( if i had to hear en fuego one more time) Why can he say things that noone else can, maybe he knows not enough people watch his show to make it worth while to complain??
"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?…
Ceteris paribus
Keith - If you're trying
September 27, 2007 - 18:39 ET by drillanwrKeith -
If you're trying to be funny, you're not ... we have Sponge Bob for that.
If you're trying to be witty, my dog is brighter ... and he eats his own poop.
If you're trying to be serious (as in journalism), The National Enquirer beats you hands-down everytime.
If you're trying to get ratings, yeah ... there's a crack addict born everyday .... but they're not very reliable viewers ... You're on when they're out trying to get that fix for the night.
If you're trying to make your Mom proud, she's probably watching Bill O`Reilly ...
Duh!
September 27, 2007 - 19:17 ET by mike dObviously, whoever wrote this story has never watched or even heard of "Sportscenter" and their undying tradition of linking names of players to other famous places, like in this case, "Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles"
Here's the link...
www.roscoeschickenandwaffles.com
I know how much you folks hate anybody who dares criticize your God-like President, but my God, a little background research sure does help some times, doesn't it?
Dumb Neo-cons like me (since
September 28, 2007 - 07:37 ET by Roger the ShrubberDumb Neo-cons like me (since we are tossing stereotypes around like "you folks") see the term "chicken and waffles" and think soul food, think Black southern cooking. It was a dish spread across the country by ex-slaves. Your rationalization of ESPN's usage of the term does not excuse the fact that it conjures the same image that a bottle of Aunt Jemima maple syrup does.
And why do you worship Bush like a God? I certainly don't. If you look at a politician like they are some sort of diety, then you have issues. Right, Al Gore and Ron Paul followers?
EVERYONE !!!!
September 27, 2007 - 19:18 ET by MrShyBOR just a hit a grand-slam on JJ (Jesse) .....
... this after JJ, in his usual monotone/calm demeaner, seemingly had BOR in a corner of not one, but two racial accusations... and that was just part one... commercial break right now :p
Neither is racist, based on
September 27, 2007 - 19:24 ET by GregENeither is racist, based on the comments that Bill said, or what Olbermann said in that piece.
The media are idiots. There is no story on what Bill said. None. The media made it one. But the only story there is how the media hyped it up, that's it. Media hyping something that's nothing, that's the true "news" story, if anything.
Allright!!! Bill O just
September 27, 2007 - 20:03 ET by JerAllright!!! Bill O just gave props to Brent Bozell and MRC.
Jer
Saw that Jer.
September 27, 2007 - 20:07 ET by BlondePosted it on a different thread.
This site just keeps evolving. New posters show up....some stay, others move on. But it is always interesting.
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Hi Blonde...Ain't that the
September 27, 2007 - 21:27 ET by JerHi Blonde...Ain't that the truth. Jer
BOR still dissed Boortz. Yet again.
September 28, 2007 - 23:17 ET by Dave ROh, the shame of it all.
BOR is a Jerk.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Can't we all agree that at
September 28, 2007 - 07:05 ET by Jack BauerCan't we all agree that at the very least, Olbermann is a Stupidist?
Just let it go
September 28, 2007 - 07:43 ET by dwillmoreEnough is enough already.