For a panel that airs their opinion nationally on regular basis, it is reasonable to expect them to understand basic political terms. Unfortunately, current “View” co-hosts do not. On the November 18 edition of “The View,” Whoopi Goldberg cited an “Advocate” cover headline reading “Gay is the New Black.” Reading the teleprompter, Whoopi stated “some people don’t agree with comparing this to black suffrage,” paused and, in a puzzled state, admitted “I don’t even understand what that word is, suffrage.” [audio available here]
For the record, and to offer Whoopi Goldberg some free elementary school education, the term suffrage according to “Merriam-Webster,” is defined as “the right of voting.”
Sherri Shepherd, who lacks basic information in geography and history, revealed her ignorance in civics and vocabulary. Sherri clumsily tried to define it as “I guess it’s when black people had to, you know, they didn’t want to die for being black.” The other two co-hosts in attendance, Joy Behar (who previously taught English) and Elisabeth Hasselbeck, did not speak up to offer a definition.
The brief exchange follows.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: The battle for same sex marriage continues. And one of the movement’s mottos is “gay is the new black.” At least that’s what some people are saying. That’s what’s on the cover of “The Advocate” this week. And some people don’t agree with comparing this to black suffrage. I don’t even know if I understand what that word is, suffrage, but I’ll leave it alone, black suffrage.
SHERRI SHEPHERD: I guess it’s when black people had to, you know, they didn’t want to die for being black. They didn’t want to be lynched. They wanted to be able to walk through the front door. They wanted to, you know, you had Jim Crow laws that said you could only, you can not do certain things if you were black.





















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Kudos to Sherri.
November 18, 2008 - 17:51 ET by Mike BrattonShe did a great job voicing Alex's mom in Madagascar 2. Good voice acting. Very nuanced. Kudos, and you should encourage your agent to get you more voice work.
As for your View comments, you should be embarrassed--as should the rest of your cohorts, including Mrs. Hasselbeck.
Your days of pseudo-political talk should be far, far behind you.
In a word, The View is dim.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport...
The view
November 18, 2008 - 18:40 ET by 5kidsnadogI'd love to be able to make a snide comment about the women of The View and their inane talk, but since they stopped being even remotely relevant, and I stopped watching anything that the networks try to grease up and shove down my throat, I wouldn't be able to construct any informed criticism. How bout we all try ignoring them and see if they go away? They only have power if we give it to them, and I definitely don't want to give it to them.
I want the picture that the Hollywood idiots get of me to be one where my fingers are in my ears, my eyes are averted, and my wallet is stuffed full of dollars that will never be transferred to their pockets. Let them see how they do without us..wadda you say?
S&D
November 18, 2008 - 18:51 ET by MichiganVetWith you 100%!
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy
Well, I'm with you, except for one thing.
November 19, 2008 - 13:47 ET by Mike BrattonI don't believe I've ever watched a moment's worth of The View on television. Of course, being a man and being reasonably intelligent, I'm not in their demographic crosshairs.
But here's the deal.
While what they say in their televised kaffeeklatsch is devoid of substance, and therefore not worth anyone's time, not everyone has come to that appropriate conclusion.
Others listen to them, and their chatter actually substitutes for real, legitimate political discourse, never mind how dim it is. As long as people are influenced by it, we have to at least be aware of what sort of pablum they're pumping out.
And I do hope Mrs. Hasselbeck severs her ties with that program at her earliest opportunity.
--Mike
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Reminds me of the gag that
November 18, 2008 - 17:55 ET by mitchsnReminds me of the gag that someone pulled where they got a bunch of female Activists to sign a petition to End Women's Suffrage.
Was it Penn & Teller or the Man Show? I can't remember.
Funny thing was, it was a male who caught on and called their bluff.
My favorite Gag
November 18, 2008 - 18:31 ET by NorthCoasterMy favorite Gag, is when a petition is passed around to ban DiHydrogen Oxide. The videos are priceless as folks shake their heads in wonder at the seriousness of the threat to life posed by H2O.
Open the freaking hatch, Hal!
November 18, 2008 - 22:03 ET by RackieCan be lethal any way it's constituted..
sign the petition!
November 18, 2008 - 22:08 ET by katainkentthe person you save could be you!
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Shame on them
November 18, 2008 - 18:04 ET by El__KabongI'm surprised at the total ignorance of those two. Had they known the meaning of the word "suffrage," they just might be a little more irritated at the the homosexuals' attempt to cloak themselves in the Civil Rights movement. I'm not going to bother reading the linked article. As an American who happens to be black, I am highly offended that these "persons" are trying to appropriate the Civil Rights movement to justify granting of the "right to marry" or whatever. There is no comparison, and any such comparison should be immediately shot down.
actually conservative
November 18, 2008 - 19:49 ET by TruthMongeractually conservative evangelicals have been "the new blacks" for quite some time now
second class citizens we are, back of the culture bus
Dominate education now
Day time network T.V. is a sewer.
November 18, 2008 - 18:30 ET by superconIt panders to the lowest common denominator of Americans there is.Why should we expect intellectual giants to be the ones doing the pandering....?Apparently to be a highly paid co-host on The View you must prove what a retard you are first.Remember their old chum Rosie?Not exactly a brainiac herself.Star Jones?
It is frightening that millions of voting Americans probably get their only political news from that gaggle of Mensa wannabes.Barack Obama's election can vouch for that.They are vendors of stupid and business is good.I could never watch because of the pain they cause me.It makes me suffrage.
"daytime TV",
November 18, 2008 - 18:45 ET by wizardjrtells you all you need to know
Except for the shift workers anyone with an IQ bigger than their shoe size is gainfully employed during the day. Mom's with kids are chasing said villains and pets all day so even if they do turn to idiotville, it's only casual for them.
Every time Whoopi flies to France from America the IQ in both places increases.
"The View" is the show for
November 18, 2008 - 18:52 ET by motherbelt"The View" is the show for women who find "Oprah" too cerebral.
They are passengers on the daytime TV short bus, along with Jerry Springer and Maury Povich.
While I generally speaking
November 18, 2008 - 19:58 ET by Acts 2_38While I generally speaking share your dismissive disdain for those who populate the view, including alleged conservative Hasselbeck, I have a slight bone of contention if you will. I believe that conservatives got their butts royally kicked by Obama and his media cronies for one reason and one reason only. Conservatives don't really stand for much, as long as their pockets are getting fed. Look at the filth these people are teaching your children! Classes on how to be gay and you're worried whether SOMEONE KNOWS THE MEANING OF A FRIGGIN' WORD???? You chose as a candidate someone who was DESPISED by a large part of his own daggone party!! I for one LEFT the Republican party in favor of being INDEPENDENT with his "Gang of Fourteen" buttheads! That and a few other things like Harriet Meyers, Dubai, the elevation of Bill Clinton as some"goodwill" ambassador, you know the drill. The kind of stuff that makes you say, 'these people really aren't even TRYING to win".
I read some of the things that you guys regard as bias or an "attack" and the only thing that comes to mind is that you guys need to friggin' MAN UP!!! ( and if it doesn't apply, don't reply!)
YOU LET SODOMITES TEACH YOUR CHILDREN! And now they're trying to call their abuse of each others anus' MARRIAGE, and you're concerned about THE VIEW?????? There should have been a WAR in this country the first time some homosexual walked into some school talking about "I'm here to teach your children about being GAY"! But nooooo you were fat, dumb and happy as long as the Dow was up. And now in the face of the largest defeat of your party and your ideals, you're worried about whether some brain dead MORONS on the VIEW, know the meaning of a word! Well, LA-TEE-FREAKIN'-DA!
You don't know the meaning of the danged word EITHER. "Suffrage" as appropriated by the Womens Right to Vote movement, was a "re-coining" of an EXISTING term. THe word "Suffrage" dates back to the middle ages, long before voting was en vogue. SUFFRAGE meant INTERCESSORY PRAYER for the vast majority of it's existence. THe civil rights movement was started in the black Churches and was promulgated largely by those institutions long before others got on the band wagon. The civil rights movement was founded, existed and prevailed SOLELY through INTERCESSORY PRAYER, so as a broken clock is right twice a day, this idiot from the view is more right than you. Especially since you thought that the word originated with "voting". That being, only, it's most recent application.
Stop straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. IT's not to late to figure out what being "conservative" really means. Exit hint: It ain't about your wallet bud, liberals want to make a dollar out of fifteen cents as well! Make your calling and election SURE!
Well said!!!
November 18, 2008 - 20:23 ET by MightyMouth..we have been needing someone with the voice of reason around here!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
we ain't conservatives - we
November 18, 2008 - 21:32 ET by TruthMongerwe ain't conservatives - we want economic growth
we ain't independants - we depend solely on God
what we do is true progress - that's what Jesus is about
true progressives:)
love it
Dominate education now
Relax, and define some words:
November 18, 2008 - 21:07 ET by UndercoverConservative*ONE* percent does not a "butt kicking" make.
But like you, I'm registered independent, so I had no say in why the Reps picked the pro-illegal immigration candidate.
"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"
yawn
November 18, 2008 - 21:48 ET by candanceWhat do you want now Keith? Didn't you get banned?
I'm a typical white person.
This shouldn't cause any surprise
November 18, 2008 - 20:03 ET by MearlineThis is the typical obama voter.
I'm astonished!!!
November 18, 2008 - 20:03 ET by mizflame98You mean the hosts of The View aren't well-versed and well-read ladies who hold degrees in political science, philosophy, theology, constitutional law, and foreign relations?
I'M FLABBERGASTED!!!!
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Folks, the "ladies" of "The View" are NOT a great braintrust...
November 18, 2008 - 20:06 ET by PrairieSkyThese women, Elisabeth Hasselbeck included, don't have the combined brainpower to light up a nightlight.
Why does ANYONE care one whit what these lamebrains think or do? I never watch this show...I have never watched this show...I will never watch this show, and it is a mystery to me why anyone watches this show...
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
its a damn good thing
November 18, 2008 - 21:56 ET by TruthMongerits a damn good thing millions rely on the view for information regarding voting and other civic duties i guess - aren't we lucky
case in point: president OBAMA!?!?!?!?!?
wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Dominate education now
TM...My thoughts exactly!
November 18, 2008 - 22:56 ET by PrairieSkyUnfortunately (and sadly), you are quite correct. The fact that before the election (and since) so many got much of their information and news analysis from the great minds on "The View," explains why we are now faced with the reality of President Obama as of January 20th.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
At least Whoopie was honest.
November 18, 2008 - 20:10 ET by jackie3At least whoopie was honest and admitted she didn't know the meaning of the word. The other one should have been honest too instead of guessing what it means. Of course suffrage and gay marriage have nothing in common.
I for one am actually for gay marriage. (I know I'm gonna get beat over the head for this) but to me, if the republicans switched their stance on gay marriage and was for it--it would really hurt the dems and put the party back into the spot of being the new party that was a maverick party. It was a republican president who sought to end slavery. The republicans were the mavericks for equality at one point in time. This is the perfect issue to regain that notoriety.
Of course gay marriage will never go through without the support of the Pope. But if the republicans did take a pro gay stance they would really turn the politics on its head.
Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
You're kidding, right?
November 18, 2008 - 20:20 ET by PrairieSkyThe Republican Party will never, I hope, endorse gay marriage. I also hope that there will never come a time when the party is so desperate to regain it's prominence that it would actually consider endorsing gay marriage.
The Republican Party is about traditional values and principles, and gay marriage is certainly not a part of either of those.
And just in case you didn't know, even Barack Obama is not in favor of gay marriage. That is a fact.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
Prairie
November 19, 2008 - 00:34 ET by RESTLESS 1It's funny how many liberals don't know this. Didn't Biden admit in the V.P. debate that he doesn't favor gay marriage either? Funny how that never came up in the post debate analysis.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
" if repubs favored gay
November 18, 2008 - 21:57 ET by TruthMonger" if repubs favored gay marriage it would really hurt the dems"
LMAO
yeah that'll get em good
Dominate education now
jackie3... Republicans
November 19, 2008 - 00:51 ET by Clear thinkerjackie3...
Republicans might someday support gay marriage, but Conservatives never will. Thank God!
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Jackie3
November 19, 2008 - 01:03 ET by RESTLESS 1Why should Republicans abandon their principles in order to placate ignorant voters? This country does not need a mirror image of the left. It needs a bulwark against the left.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
mitchsn,
November 18, 2008 - 20:16 ET by suzycreamcheeseI remember that man-on-the-street gag about women's suffrage. The man would ask women if they were for or against women's suffrage, and most answered, "Oh, suffrage is terrible! It's an outrage and we shouldn't be having it in this day and age." I guess they thought they heard the word "suffer" and thought, Yeah, it IS a bad thing.
Did these women not learn this in elementary school? They might have learned it in college if they had bothered going.
Suffrage
November 18, 2008 - 20:39 ET by katainkentOh, we were suffering until suffrage,
Not a woman here could vote,
no matter what age,
Then the nineteenth amendment struck
down the restrictive rule.
~Schoolhouse Rock
Its amazing what sticks with you over the years.
a collection needs to be taken up for the women of the View so they can have a pocket constitution on hand for emergencies.
member of the Conservative Independant Witness Protection Program since Nov. 5, 2008
Just for you.
November 18, 2008 - 20:44 ET by mizflame98Maybe I should forward a copy of this to Whoopie & Sherri.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dPF0SGh_PQ
Perfect Demotivator for the Obama Administration
http://www.despair.com/government.html
I suffrage every time I
November 18, 2008 - 20:44 ET by Clear thinkerI suffrage every time I hear either one of these ladies open their mouths!
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Whoopi & Sherri were
November 18, 2008 - 20:53 ET by TN MomWhoopi & Sherri were educated on Black Suffrage by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?
Bahahahahahahaha!
Whoopi is the same dim bulb
November 18, 2008 - 20:54 ET by GrannyGrump42Whoopi is the same dim bulb that doesn't grasp how the Constitution is amended, who evidently thought McCain might have a "senior moment" and send her to the plantation.
Evidently she's literate enough to read the teleprompter. Maybe she ought to read it thru before the show and make sure she understands all the big words.
Help wanted - Apply within
November 18, 2008 - 21:56 ET by RackieYou too can make big bucks being a cluess dipstick.
IT WAS THE MAN SHOW...
November 18, 2008 - 23:36 ET by danybhoyI think it was Adam Corola who did a "man on the street" type of deal asking about women's suffrage. Seveal thought it would be a "good idea" to end it. That was a funny bit, but as a nation, we should be pissed. The people interviewed have gone through our public education system, & are not all there. The more money we pour into public education, the dumber they come out. Big applause for the NEA & the state educational systems...urban schools in particular. El-Rushbo says ignorance is the most expensive commodity we have, he is right.
BTW, KTLK 100.3's Jason Lewis(Rush's usual sub host)talked about when women did get their suffrage, that it has led to more liberal politics. He sited studies that showed this, pointing out that it was the children that were the reason for this. How many times have we heard "...it's for the children?" It makes sense when you look into it.
"...it's still We The People, Right?" Megadeth
I FOUND IT!!!
November 18, 2008 - 23:58 ET by mizflame98Absolutely hillarious. I wonder if Whoopi & Sherri signed the petition?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmKWp4OPoUM
Perfect Demotivator for the Obama Administration
http://www.despair.com/government.html
Thanks miz... That was
November 19, 2008 - 00:05 ET by Clear thinkerThanks miz...
That was great! However, it does show how public education in this country has gone completely down the drain.
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Heck, it also shows
November 19, 2008 - 00:19 ET by mizflame98Heck, it also shows how parents neglect to teach their kids anything. I stopped relying on the schools to be the sole avenue of education a long time ago.
Perfect Demotivator for the Obama Administration
http://www.despair.com/government.html
mizflame... Very smart
November 19, 2008 - 00:53 ET by Clear thinkermizflame...
Very smart woman you are!
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