"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts" the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a Democrat, once said. Apparently, the ladies of "The View" disagree. Debating which presidential nominee has better judgment, Whoopi Goldberg once again forwarded the myth that the Bush administration completely ignored Afghanistan and focused instead on Iraq.
"President Bush came over here to New York City and said we’re going to go get the people who did this to us. He did not go get the people who did this to us. He went to Iraq. Now that’s not where the people were. They were in Afghanistan. [applause] Now how do you miss that? So none of this has worked."
To repeat the same history lesson to Whoopi, the Bush administration began military operations in Afghanistan on October 7, 2001, less than a month after the attacks of September 11. The invasion of Iraq did not commence until March 19, 2003, and even then and to this day, a sizeable military force remains in Afghanistan.
Joy Behar shouted that Barack Obama holds better judgment than John McCain because Obama opposed the Iraq War from the beginning. When Elisabeth reminded that Obama opposed the successful surge, Joy Behar refused to budge stating "the war is the fact. The surge is after the fact."
The transcript follows.
JOY BEHAR: Judgment has a lot to do with it and Barack Obama is the only one who was against going into Iraq when we didn’t have enough information. That’s judgement! [applause] That’s real judgment.
ELISABETH HASSELBECK: Judgment? What about the decision, to be fair-
BEHAR: Before- wait a second- before 4,000 and more American boys and girls were killed, this man said that’s a mistake. Now that’s judgment.
HASSELBECK: He also made a mistake. He made a mistake with the surge when he wanted to withdraw troops-
BEHAR: That’s after the fact.
HASSELBECK: Which would have kept even more- after the fact? The is the most successful, successful-
BEHAR: The war is the fact. The surge is after the fact.
HASSELBECK: -the most successful moment and no one wants to talk about it. You talk to the troops in Iraq, in Afghanistan, when you talk about the surge and the success, why aren’t we discussing that? It is crucial. It is crucial.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: What I find most interesting about all of this is the surge in Iraq may have worked and it may not have worked, but it wasn’t supposed to be there. And the surge, if it we were surging anywhere, we should have surged our behinds into Afghanistan, yes, yes. [applause] I’m sorry that is my, that is my opinion. That is wrong. That is my, that is my opinion. President Bush came over here to New York City and said we’re going to go get the people who did this to us. He did not go get the people who did this to us. He went to Iraq. Now that’s not where the people were. They were in Afghanistan. [applause] Now how do you miss that? So none of this has worked.
HASSELBECK: But that war’s going on.
GOLDBERG: None of this has- the war was not going on when he said that.
HASSELBECK: So that qualifies then, even though he has been wrong on the surge. Judgment-
GOLDBERG: We’re talking about bad judgment all the way around.






















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The only thing that amazes
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 13:24 ET by RedboneProThe only thing that amazes me more than Whoopi's total ignorance on just about every topic is that people tune in to get her 'View' on such.
she is a member of the
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 13:39 ET by ronshe is a member of the "don't confuse me withe facts " club
Who needs the truth...
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 13:39 ET by Meanderingwhen you are Whoopi or any lady on the view. Their audience is just like them to stupid to look anything up to verify their claims. You just get to say what you want no matter what the truth is so long as it furthers your agenda. Poor Justin STILL has to listen to these airheads?
I wouldn't give a fig about
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 13:41 ET by Kenny BunkportI wouldn't give a fig about what the women of The View think, except that millions of voting women in the audience think they actually know what the hell they're talking about.
A gun in your hand beats a cop on the phone.
[applause] then [puke]
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 13:52 ET by SickofLibsThe Mighty Blohar weighs in: "That's judgement!"
[applause]
Better Updated Understanding
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 13:52 ET by JDWIraq: Baghdad just undid the biggest political knot in the country
Anyone who expects the media monkeys to focus on the truth is not wasting their time watching this.
JDW
DAILY WAVE
'Hey Chuck, Stand Up!'
I disagree completely
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 14:07 ET by Prester JohnWhoopi is not a stupid woman and she knows exactly what she is saying, whether it is about Afghanistan or McCain judges reestablishing slavery. She knows we've been in Afghanistan since 2001 and her comment about slavery was, in her mind, a clever piece of political theater. The political side of her knows which buttons to push to get people to vote for the Obama and she will gladly distort whatever facts she needs to even if it sounds stupid to normal thinking people. Remember, most of the audience of this circus aren't normal thinking people and are gullible enought to believe what she is saying.
Now Behar is another matter all together. I doubt if she even knows what planet she is on.
Not even going to read this
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 14:11 ET by bigtimerNot even going to read this today.
I pass.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I understand that some
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 14:39 ET by seaniepI understand that some people don't think we should have gone into Iraq and Afghanistan . . . I get that
I however think we did the right thing, so when you throw it in my face that obama opposed it, I say to you maam, "well gee, he missed the boat on that one, what a maroon"
GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS LIBERALS - NOT EVERYONE THINKS IT WAS A BAD IDEA
Cringeworthy as usual
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 14:39 ET by SpikerMy mother is retired and a regular watcher of this program, and unfortunately is one of the people who believes everything they say. I don't even try to argue about any of it either, it's not worth it. When somebody lives in a blue state and is drowning in all of the pro-Obama propaganda already, I guess the next logical step is for them to turn to Joy Behar for foreign policy analysis.
Whoopsie
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 14:45 ET by TheAssessorIt tickles the crap out of me. Someone told her she was a snappy political commentator and she believed them. She and Barack went to different thug schools but came out the same rap. Put Whoop on the front line in Afghanistan. One look at her and the terrorists will either recruit her as suicide bomber or throw a burka at her and run screaming to their caves thinking we've crafted a horrible new offensive.
Barak Obama is a political sociopath..
Who cares?
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 15:09 ET by pgrossjrWhy does this or any serious site give any press to those clowns? I dont care what Joy or Whoopi say or do nor do I want to be on the same side as anyone who does. They are emblematic of why most thinking people no longer pay any attention to anything that is on the tube. The only thing that is really concerning is that there are enough other retards who watch to keep the show on the air.
In Whoopie Cushion's Defense...
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 15:17 ET by Hooterville DenizenYou can't (consciously) mislead on topics you know nothing about.
Hooterville
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 15:44 ET by cocodrieGreat accurate name for Whoopie. Hooterville was one of my favorite places on tv.
We're Talking Stupid All Around!
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 15:33 ET by ChasvsThere isn't a bigger bunch of stupid B!tches anywhere -- unless you look to Congress and their high-functioning morons like Nancy Pelosi!
The View
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 15:44 ET by IamTinman5 women going to a gunfight with empty pistols.
Unbelievable ignorance
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 17:06 ET by MarcusBrodyThe ignorance of the core members on this show blows my mind. Literally backwards and ill-informed at a fundamental level. How presumptuous to air yourself on national TV, acting as consultants and all the while you don't even know what the hell is going on.
God bless Elizabeth I don't know how she does it or stays sane. I wonder what the off-camera life and office politics are like.
I'd say Behar could be the antichrist, but she's just too dumb.
*&%#&*
Fri, 09/26/2008 - 19:31 ET by Jack Herman"The View" and "Countdown" (actually most of MSNBC programming) should be moved over to the Comedy Channel alongside the "Daily Show".
How many women of "The View" does it take to screw in a light bulb?
One. Ms Hasselbeck is the only one intelligent enough to see the rest are in the dark.