To explain the high level of hatred for Governor Sarah Palin, the September 18 edition of "Fox and Friends" invited Bloomberg News columnist Caroline Baum. Ms. Baum, who claims to have studied it extensively, later used a vulgar term to describe which direction women voters will lean.
The Bloomberg columnist explained that Governor Palin "made the Democrats’ road to the White House less inevitable." Democrats, feeling a sense of entitlement, are outraged that, in a very hostile political environment for the Republicans, this election remains competitive. When Gretchen Carlson asked what this close election means "for the future of the Democratic party" Baum hypothesized that the Democrats are "bankrupt in terms of appealing to the population in terms of ideas."
Warning: vulgarity below.
Addressing the issue of Sarah Palin attracting Hillary voters, Caroline Baum declared "the pro-choice versus not seems to be a much bigger issue than, you know, she has tits versus she, you know, has another body part that men have."
The transcript follows.
GRETCHEN CARLSON: She’s a governor that came out of nowhere to help the Republicans win in November, but Democrats seem to be leveling their harshest attacks at Governor Sarah Palin rather than John McCain. Do they hate her or do they fear her? What is it Brian?
BRIAN KILMEADE: I’m going to ask Caroline Baum that if you don’t mind waiting here. She’s a columnist for Bloomberg News and has done an extensive study on this. What does your gut tell you Caroline? Where does the hatred come from?
CAROLINE BAUM: The hatred comes from the fact that, that Sarah Palin, for the first time, has made the Democrats’ road to the White House less inevitable. You know, there was an entitlement, inevitable, this inevitability. This is our moment, this is our time, Obama has said. And all of a sudden, it went from the convention to the crowds at campaign rallies. And the Democrats are saying who is she to upset our apple cart?
CARLSON: Because, by all accounts, the Democrats should win this election if you look at what’s been going on. If you take the pulse of the American public if we’re talking about the war and now you’re talking about the economy, but the fact that, that might not happen, what does that create for the future of the Democratic party?
BAUM: Well, it means they have to look into the mirror and perhaps accept that they are bankrupt in terms of appealing to the population in terms of ideas. I mean, it has never been so good for a party out of power as you said, unpopular president, unpopular war, lousy economy, housing in the tank, the stock market now falling off the cliff, and 80 percent of the public saying that the economy is on the wrong track. If they can’t win now, when can they win?
KILMEADE: What I don’t understand is, if you are a Democrat, are you a Democrat first, or for example, a woman first that sees a breakthrough? I mean, there’s no, there’s a huge breakthrough here regardless of your party.
BAUM: If you’re asking me, I, I think the idea that she would appeal to Hillary voters, you know, the pro-choice versus not seems to be a much bigger issue than, you know, she has tits versus she, you know, has another body part that men have.
[laughter]
CARLSON: Did you just say, did you just say- Alright, I-
BAUM: Am I allowed to say that?
KILMEADE: I’m walking out.
CARLSON: Then walk out. Brian has to leave on that comment. But I got the point Caroline. I definitely got the point.





















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BIDEN'S CANS
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 16:34 ET by sawing battaWhen Joe puts on weight, he might be able to rival sarah's.
If McCain doesn't immediately create an ad from this he is nuts!
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 16:35 ET by smartestmaninamericaIf McCain doesn't immediately create an ad from this he is nuts!
"Democratic Congress May Adjourn, Leave Crisis to Fed, Treasury"
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aVPBaUbYV_qQ
What to do
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 17:06 ET by CarlosSSenate Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday, is that ``no one knows what to do''
Since no lobbyists have shown up with briefcases full of cash Harry is at a loss for legislative ideas.
This is Fox & Friends
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 16:49 ET by ThisnThatThis is Fox & Friends trying to attract the daily KOs viewer. They could have bleeped this out, you know.
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Thought it was "Live"
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 17:01 ET by Indiana JoeThat's what the screen said. I saw this, and immediately noted the "LIVE" tag in the corner. It could have been bleeped in re-broadcast, I guess, but in the midwest I presume "LIVE" means, well... LIVE!
BOTH men onstage with her at the time beat a hasty retreat. Fu-u-nny!
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Don't most live broadcasts
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 18:53 ET by ThisnThatDon't most live broadcasts have a small delay built in to cover "unexpected moments"? I know that's true in live radio broadcasts that have guests calling in, so that a censor has time to insert a beep or simply cut the sound around that moment. I assume that live TV broadcasts would also have a delay built in.
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Yeah, radio does
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 21:35 ET by Indiana Joebecause of the call-in aspect. That's their only control. But I don't think live TV does that, except maybe on a "man on the street" type thing. Otherwise, they control their "talent."
But I don't actually know. No one acted like they could have stopped it, that's for sure!
And remember the "wardrobe malfunction?" That's LIVE, baby! ;^)
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Indiana Joe, yes, there is a delay in most broadcasts...
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 21:49 ET by goldenthroatYears ago when I was hosting a late night talk show on radio, our phone system would role into an 8 second delay mode so that we could cut off obscenities and other idiotic callers before they went out over the air.
Many radio and TV broadcasts have as much as a 10 to 15 second delay now. But it doesn't take away the fact that that the broadcast is still "live".
"The sun's not going down, the horizon's moving up!" - Firesign Theatre
Lesson learned
Fri, 09/19/2008 - 01:14 ET by UnsaneBack in the day, Fox and Friends did NOT have a delay built in like your show did. I was watching once in 2003 where they paid for their stupidity live and on the air. I can't imagine any radio or TV program not having one, especially when they have call-ins from the general public.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
BOTH men onstage with her at the time beat a hasty retreat.
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 20:39 ET by steve2526Watching her on H&C tonight I said to my wife that Sarah has a big set of brass cojones.
Apparently they're bigger than either Doocey's or Kilmeade's!
A member of the right-wing media
Other than the vulgarity,
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 16:55 ET by motherbeltOther than the vulgarity, she made good sense.
The Democrat sense of entitlement has been threatened, and like two-year-olds who have had their ice cream taken away, they are having a fit.
Well, it means they have to look into the mirror and perhaps
accept that they are bankrupt in terms of appealing to the population
in terms of ideas
She hit the nail on the head.
Exactly, except when has a
Fri, 09/19/2008 - 01:02 ET by ladyrvtExactly, except that when has a Liberal and/or Democrat ever, and I literally mean EVER, admitted or taken responsibility for their own failings? It is ALWAYS someone else's fault. ALWAYS.
Show me where I'm wrong.
**crickets**
Oh, and tits-tits-tits *giggle*
What!!!
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 16:58 ET by charlietexasHey...................Joe has man boob's, doesn't that count for something???? Obama just has milk dudds......
butt.....instead of Penis envy, ist now called t*t envy???
wow....we've come so far.......
mom
THat's NOT Caroline Baum!!
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 17:21 ET by Calypso JonesIt's TOOTSIE!! No wonder she can talk about t**ts with a disconnect. You just KNOW she has none!
vulgar?
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 17:24 ET by right of waypersonally i don't think this word is vulgar. i know it was one of george carlin's 7 words you can't say on tv, but it's such a cute word. it sounds like a nabisco snack doesn't it? say marge would you please pass the ....
Alot of you...
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 17:31 ET by ImAllRightAre afraid of way too damn much if the word 'tits' scares you.
Quit being a bunch of self-righteous cowards and move on.
Tits, how horrible, how will any of us sleep tonight? - Knowing that some random lady on Fox & Friends said something that all women and fat guys have. Oh, the horror.
Grow up.
What are you Justin, 6? 7? Do cooties still have you scared of those icky girls?
Thanks for the laugh there junior.
"Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive.” - William F. Buckley Jr.
Well, speaking for myself,
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 17:36 ET by Indiana JoeWell, speaking for myself, it's not the word. It's just the rarity of hearing it on a morning news/talk show. That's about all that makes it noteworthy, IMO. Printed, it would have been nothing at all.
It was funny. She says, "Can I say that?" and the men are running for cover. It just seemed to catch everyone flat-footed.
;^D
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Tit-for-tat...
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 17:41 ET by AmericanEnergistI saw it live...and I sort-of felt it was a refreshing change for a guest to explain something in more viceral terms. Identity politics isn't the best way to judge a candidate, but for the self-hating (liberal) women who hate Gov. Palin because she is a conservative is beyond reproach.
www.ArmchairEnergist.com
Edit
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 18:03 ET by sixlbs9ozYou mean, "used a vulgar term to describe why women voters lean."
Hee hee.
6lbs
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 21:38 ET by Indiana JoeAt least you didn't say "used a vulv... ''
uh,... never mind.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Vulgar is as vulgar says
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 20:11 ET by pocomocoBaum and Jane Fonda must be visiting the same porn sites.
Yeah....
Thu, 09/18/2008 - 22:04 ET by neighbYeah....but NOT as big as Baum's....
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Fri, 09/19/2008 - 00:57 ET by ladyrvt.