Joy Behar still complains about Al Gore’s 2000 election loss. In discussing Gore’s Nobel Prize acceptance, Behar implied Gore lost an unfair election. When Whoopi Goldberg reminded Behar that Gore conceded. Behar retorted "that was a mistake" after the Supreme Court, which has final jurisdiction ruled against him.
Behar continued that Gore "should have let them count the votes legitimately...to keep our country the way it’s supposed to be instead of the Supreme Court making the decision." Behar essentially said Gore should have defied the Court to "let them count the votes legitimately."
Behar is forgetting that Gore exhausted the legal system and there were little or no avenues Gore could have pursued after the Supreme Court ruled against him. Also, Florida did have a full state recount, including court ordered hand recounts of Florida’s most liberal counties.
Also of note, was a discussion on a recent Spanish speaking Republican debate. While Whoopi, Joy, and Sherri continued to attack Republicans as allegedly singling out Mexicans. As usual, the facts do not matter on "The View." The co-hosts all agreed hispanics have voted "traditionally Republican," but the numbers do not back that up. In 2004, Bush received no higher than 44 percent of Latino votes, a record among Republican presidential candidates.
The entire transcript is below.
BEHAR: Oh Al Gore.
GOLDBERG: What were we talking about? We were talking about whether he won-
BEHAR: Well, he won the popular vote.
GOLDBERG: Right.
BEHAR: But it was 25 electoral votes in Florida that he didn’t get, that they stopped the count and that’s why he’s angry. But he, he-
GOLDBERG: But he stopped the count. He said I don’t want to hold up the country anymore right?
BEHAR: Yeah, that was a mistake. He shouldn’t have done that. He should have let them count the votes legitimately, I think. Don’t you think people? [applause] To keep, to keep our country the way it’s supposed to be instead of the Supreme Court making the decision. We’re supposed to make the decision.
GOLDBERG: Well, here’s something that didn’t stop, you know, people from doing the, the right thing. The Republicans finally went down to Florida to do a debate in Spanish for the Spanish language television. I was kind of surprised and I know it’s going to shock you that I actually watched a lot of it. But, nobody had a very strong stance on immigration. Nobody talked about those, you know, those illegals. You know how they get when their hair goes "illegals are coming across taking our jobs!" Nobody did any of that. It was like "we are very pleased that immigrants are here." And I was like, who are these people?
BEHAR: Well, they’re talking to Hispanics.
SHERRI SHEPHERD: Did you really think-
GOLDBERG: Yes I did!
SHEPHERD: I did not think for a minute that there.
GOLDBERG: I did not think that there would be one [inaudible]
SHEPHERD: And that’s why they’re [inadible] not talking about that wall.
GOLDBERG: See, well child, I thought [inaudible] there was going to be- now, how could anybody not know if they wouldn’t vote for the person who tells them the truth and says "I’m concerned about this." Everybody knows. You can’t- no ball upon them.
BEHAR: Yeah that’s true. What were you going to say Sherri?
SHEPHERD: I was going to say just like you said to Ron Paul "well, you know you’re not going to win."
BEHAR: Yeah!
SHEPHERD: You know, I thought, they’re probably looking at this crowd going, you know, "we know you’re not going to vote for me."
BEHAR: Well, the hispanic vote has traditionally-
GOLDBERG: Traditionally been Republican.
SHEPHERD: Republican right. But now it’s turned.
BEHAR: It may change since the wall. Unless somebody says "yo qiero Taco Bell."
[laughter]
SHEPHERD: If somebody says "we’re going to build the wall and fortify it." They’re not going to vote for you.
GOLDBERG: If somebody says "build a wall around the entire country including Canada," I think people would have felt better. Because the Canadians would be pissed off too. But if you’re just going to piss off one section of folks, and, you know, it’s funny because we always say it always seems to be one group that are the illegal immigrants because that’s what we see on television all of the time.
BEHAR: Yeah, but also the thing about it is, I would go along with it very forcefully if that meant that terrorists would stay out of the United States. But mostly, if they’re going to stay out, they should really stop them coming in from Canada also. That’s the point, so it just seems to me like it’s against Mexicans.
GOLDBERG: Yes!
BEHAR: Or not necessarily terrorists.
GOLDBERG: No!
BEHAR: As far as I can tell.
—Justin McCarthy is a news analyst at Media Research Center.















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Of Course!
December 10, 2007 - 16:50 ET by islero47Liberals are always bitter! What would you expect?
That was 7 years ago!
December 10, 2007 - 16:51 ET by Free StinkerThat was 7 years ago!
These Liberal idiots can't forget the 2000 election, but they have no trouble forgetting 9/11.
the babblings of idiots
December 10, 2007 - 16:57 ET by rustyf1Who watches this nonsense.
Who watches?
December 10, 2007 - 17:09 ET by Prester JohnA lot of people who don't have anything better to do and who also happen to have the right to vote.
(shudder)
And all this time I
December 10, 2007 - 17:01 ET by BlazerAnd all this time I figured Joy had her panties all in a wad because she was jealous of her more attractive, talented and famous sister Bette Midler.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
Huh?
December 10, 2007 - 17:51 ET by slayerwatcher"And all this time I figured Joy had her panties all in a wad because she was jealous of her more attractive, talented and famous sister Bette Midler."
That's like saying one horse's ass is more attractive than another horse's ass. (literally, not figuratively)
Actually Behar-dy-har-har,
December 10, 2007 - 17:56 ET by BlazerActually Behar-dy-har-har, look's like Bathhouse Bette in drag.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
Behar is Bette Midler
December 10, 2007 - 20:16 ET by motherbeltBehar is Bette Midler without the class...
Don't forget Bette's tirade...
December 11, 2007 - 21:09 ET by goldenthroatMB,
I am not sure either one of them have class. Don't forget the divine Ms. M's tirade on stage a while back when she commented about receiving a fund raising letter from the Republican Party. She then said her response was "go f--- yourself!".
If this is "class", then I have some prime real estate at the base of Mt. St. Helen's I'll sell ya!
"Yeah, that's the ticket!" - Tommy Flanagan
He could have run again in
December 10, 2007 - 17:02 ET by mattmHe could have run again in 2004 if he was so sure he got cheated in '00. Or he could run this year, the way Nixon did eight years after he 'allegedly' got cheated in 1960... (BTW Didn't Nixon run for Governor in CA and win prior to running for president in '68? What did Algy do? Became a millionaire selling doom and gloom.)
Hey Joy-less, Gore lost. He tried to steal the election by counting spoiled ballots as votes for himself. He lost all but one recount, and the one he won was the least reliable. Additionally, there were thousands of disallowed military ballots, and turn-out in the largely republican panhandle was suppressed because of Dan Rather's premature calling of Florida for Gore.
Al Gore's and the DNC's purpose for their devious post-election behavior was twofold: 1. To usurp the election, if possible, and failing that, 2. to delegitimize the Bush presidency.
These people are power-hungry tyrants - not democrats (small "d") and their followers are idiots and/or ignoramuses or accomplices.
Watch for Al to run again
December 10, 2007 - 17:05 ET by Free StinkerWatch for Al to run again with Obama as his VP
I hope he does. Not only
December 10, 2007 - 18:01 ET by RainsfordI hope he does. Not only would it be an automatic win for the Republicans, but he would finally be forced to debate his crazy theories.
Be careful what you wish
December 10, 2007 - 21:00 ET by red_dragon311Be careful what you wish for.
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
The party of the
December 10, 2007 - 17:09 ET by ckc1227The party of the future...still living in the past. Maybe we should recount Florida again.
EXACTLY...
December 11, 2007 - 04:02 ET by danybhoyckc1227,
This is the exactly the problem with the left. They are living in the past, but I'll add that they are NOT students of history. The Dems never seem to learn that what failed then, won't work now, no matter how "well intentioned" their vision for the future is.
Too many still fall for the BS that the Dem leadership puts out, that's sad.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
To liberals, the 2000
December 10, 2007 - 17:44 ET by motherbeltStill bitter? No surprise there. To liberals, the 2000 election is central to everything. Everything eventually goes back to that; it's their lodestone.
A few days ago, NYT editor Bill Keller gave a lecture in London, and of course, being overseas, he bashed his own government. He hit all the high points, a war going "very badly," wiretapping, torture, and, of course the election of 2000, with its attendant questions of legitimacy, which, in Keller's opinion, is driving the reasonable middle of the American electorate [ ] to angry and intolerant fringes.
Yes, if people are getting extreme and wacky on both sides, (according to Keller) it's all Bush's fault for stealing the election in 2000.
They really can't help themselves.
Joy's "Inconvenient Truths"
December 10, 2007 - 17:13 ET by Del Dolemonte1. SCOTUS decisively ruled against Gore 7-2. Their second 5-4 decision that day didn't decide the election, but simply had to do with how to "solve" the mess in Florida.
2. If SCOTUS had sided with Gore, that would have made him even more of an "appointed" President than the evil Bush. That's because they would have been upholding the all-Democrat Supreme Court in Floriduh, which injected itself into the case without even being asked. It was their "appointment" of Gore that was the real problem; even their own Chief Justice said they were breaking the law by trying to re-write Florida election law after the election had concluded.
3. A media recount of the votes in Florida in early 2001 showed that Gore still would have lost, unless a very narrow vote counting standard had been used. Gore himself had already rejected said standard.
4. Gore would never have needed Florida's electoral votes to capture the Presidency if he had simply been able to win his own home state of Tennessee. It would have also helped him to win Clinton's home state of Arkansas.
7-2 Not 5-4
December 10, 2007 - 17:44 ET by Repeal 16-17Thanks Del for mentioning the vote count of Bush v. Gore. Even some Conservatives screw up the vote count. This is because Justices Souter and Breyer dishonestly entitled their opinions as "dissenting" opinions when in reality they were "concurring in part and dissenting in part." As for Joy, she is a typical Liberal. She will claim that the 2000 Presidential election was illegitimate. Why? Not because of the Electoral College. Not because Bush won. Not because a Republican won. Liberals consider any election in which no Democrat, or Liberal equivalent, won to be illegitimate. They can't accept that the People would ever vote, or have ever voted, voluntarily against the secular religion that is Liberalism.
Exactly. If a GOPer
December 10, 2007 - 17:56 ET by mattmExactly. If a GOPer wins, if it's not because of cheating, it's either because the voters were having a tantrum, or were seduced by slick marketing and packaging, or were voting a single hot-button issue, or anything other than that they thoughtfully chose the GOP candidate and platform over the Democrat.
This is why Dems have no problem with vote fraud, or with policies that would make vote fraud easier: anything that helps ensure the 'correct' result is A OK with them.
Conservatives Didn't Screw Up The Vote Count
December 10, 2007 - 18:13 ET by Del DolemonteThey only people who screwed up the vote count were the pro-Gore mainstream media, which more or less ONLY reported the second, closer 5-4 decision.
As a result, many Americans, especially those on the left, never even found out about the 7-2 vote.
"You know how they get when
December 10, 2007 - 17:17 ET by ckc1227"You know how they get when their hair goes "illegals are coming across
taking our jobs!" Nobody did any of that. It was like "we are very
pleased that immigrants are here." And I was like, who are these people?"
The same people who have been saying they have no problem with immigrants all along. The better question is where the hell have you been? The issue is with illegal immigrants, not legal immigrants.
You know how they get when
December 10, 2007 - 17:41 ET by motherbeltYou know how they get when their hair goes ?????
HUH?
"It was like....[ ].. and I was like..."
Sheesh.
Honestly, it's as if
December 10, 2007 - 17:19 ET by ConservativeRexHonestly, it's as if she (Behar) has no sense at all. This woman has some semblance of an education, doesn't she? If she is capable of understanding , she needs to look into SCOFLA. They are the knuckleheads that allowed this travesty to continue as long as it did.
But no matter, GWB won, and that as they say, is that.
Believe it or not, Joy
December 10, 2007 - 17:42 ET by motherbeltBelieve it or not, Joy Behar has degrees in sociology and English. That just proves that you can have all kinds of education and still be dumb as a post.
On the bright side, and to the benefit of many, she is no longer working at her old job, which was teaching at a Long Island high school.
I kid you not.
Somehow, this myth that
December 10, 2007 - 17:22 ET by Col SmokeSomehow, this myth that Hispanics are such "staunch Republicans" has sprung up - fueled by Bush and Rove and their illegal amnesty ploys, for sure. I believe historically, some Cuban immigrants trended Republican, but that's about it.
I hear talk-show hosts (Laura Ingraham, you out there?) always spouting off about what "social conservatives" Hispanics are. Like illegitimate birth, abortions, rampant alcoholism, domestic partner abuse, welfare-taking, law-breaking, etc., etc. are the hallmarks of social conservatism...
Hispanics used to be
December 10, 2007 - 17:56 ET by motherbeltHispanics used to be considered "social conservatives" because of most ot them being Catholic, and the abortion issue.
But no more. A lot of Hispanics are now CINO's (Catholic in Name Only) because of "tradition." Also, the rate of illegitimacy (probably because of an aversion to abortion...NOT that that's a bad thing, mind you!) among hispanic women is rising. This will fuel demand for more social services (welfare, Medicaid etc) which Democrats are more likely to encourage.
President Bush and some Republicans tried to stem this tide by offering amnesty for illegals, but the country said not no, but Hell, no! to that.
And they simply can't out-pander the Democrats.
you are correct to a certin
December 10, 2007 - 21:13 ET by red_dragon311you are correct to a certin extent....it's the LEAGAL ones that are the ileagals are abusing the system. I know first hand...my wife of tem years was here on a over stayed visa, we dated, got married, and i was told "she just doing it to stay here" ect.
10 years and 3 kids later.....nuff said.
but I do know of MANY illegal things going on in the hispanic community. home loans with no SS# ora fake one. Local Income tax adjusters, (not H&R Block ) who do taxes and get thier illegal clients tax refunds, (I know a family who did taxes for th last three years and they got $18,000 back no joke).
so illegals are the ones the dems are shooting for
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
joyless
December 10, 2007 - 17:25 ET by rubberpelletfrancisDoes NB have a Behar fettish? The only thing worse to see on here is Helen Thomas. Both are worth squat.
No Fetish
December 10, 2007 - 18:21 ET by Del DolemonteNo, it's not a fetish. Since "The View" choses to include daily breaking news as part of their format, and longtime ABC News person Baba Wawa appears first on the show's masthead and as I recall also owns a piece of the show. So what they say on the show is fair game for NB.
Are Joy and the rest of
December 10, 2007 - 17:27 ET by Free ThinkerAre Joy and the rest of these gals just stupid or is this contrived to push an agenda? Who is Joy Behar?
Somebody please change the
December 10, 2007 - 17:28 ET by Airforce_5_OSomebody please change the old girls Depends, I think she wet herself.
According to Helen Thomas and Professor Truth I am the Most Dangerous and Psychotic Individual on the Net. Airforce_5_O
Can anything which pees off
December 10, 2007 - 17:54 ET by Jack BauerCan anything which pees off Joy Rehab be a bad thing? I think not.
Also, I hate to be a pedant, but "popular vote"? That pre-supposes voters vote for the President, when in the strict sense they are voting to send representatives to the Electoral college.
Now the framers of the Constitution were, by and large, some of the cleverest men who ever lived. So, I am sure, had they wanted the Presidency to be a mere "popular vote", they would have made it so. As they do, for example in France or Venezuela.
But they DIDN'T!
Joy Behar - Dumbing Down of America Personified
December 10, 2007 - 18:03 ET by BourbeauHow any media outlet can give this woman a seat at the table to talk about anything is beyond stupidity. She's rarely, if ever, quoted making an intelligent comment; more likely, it's some rant laced with venom directed at GW. Get over it Joy Baby, Al was a loser, and so are you; next subject.
Dear Santa,
December 10, 2007 - 18:20 ET by drillanwrAll I want for Christmas is a multi-million dollar contract for Joy Behar to have her own TV show ... In Iceland. Oh, hell ... I'll be nice and let her shop. Okay, France.
How come?
December 10, 2007 - 18:31 ET by IamTinmanJoy, How come it's okay for the Supremes to Rule on abortion, bussing, and all types of discrimination, but not to rule on a process defined by the US constitution?
You are a nitwit!
Amen ...
December 10, 2007 - 21:02 ET by drillanwrAmen ...
Did Joy forget the counts that the Miami Herald and the NYT did?
December 10, 2007 - 19:13 ET by c5thenThey both did exhaustive counts of all the ballots and found independantly that the result would have been GWB picking up a few hundred more votes. Inconvenient truth, that. Heh? Not to mention that Gore wanted to start a re-count before there was any certified results to re-count in the first place. In effect Gore wanted a recount of the network estimates.
Then again, Behar doesn't probably understand anything to do with civics and how the government actually is supposed to work. All she knows is that she thinks her side should win all the time no metter what.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
-
December 11, 2007 - 00:07 ET by dahliatraversThey both did exhaustive counts of all the ballots and found independantly that the result would have been GWB picking up a few hundred more votes.
Exactly. If the four recounts Al Gore called for had happened, they would have gone against him. A recount of the whole state would have gone against him. That's what makes it so embarrassing when Gore supporters like Joy talk about Florida and the 2000 election.
It has always been my
December 10, 2007 - 19:44 ET by fitzfongIt has always been my opinion that to liberals, Florida 2000 was a bigger national tragedy than was 9/11/2001. Nothing liberals have said or done over the past several years makes me feel any differently. The United States is so fortunate that George W. Bush was the sitting President when the attacks occurred. I shudder to think how badly off this country would be if that smug, incompetent robot had managed to steal the 2000 Election. So keep licking your wounds over Florida 2000, fat girl. You don't know how lucky you are not to have gotten what you wanted.
All I want to know is...
December 10, 2007 - 19:45 ET by goldenthroatIs Joyless Behar really that homely looking or do my eyeglasses need cleaning?
BTW, Joyless - we won, you lost - GET OVER IT!
"Yeah! That's the ticket!" - Tommy Flanagan
Believe me, that picture
December 10, 2007 - 19:49 ET by fitzfongBelieve me, that picture flatters her.
put down drinks before reading (he concept will kill ya)
December 10, 2007 - 19:49 ET by RJJoy Behar looks like the love-child of Helen Thomas....
...and Ronald McDonald.
December 10, 2007 - 19:51 ET by fitzfong...and Ronald McDonald.
I've seen better looking
December 10, 2007 - 19:52 ET by BlazerI've seen better looking grill's on work truck's.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
8-9 recounts
December 10, 2007 - 20:31 ET by ScrapironOld, Retired and glad of it. The left wing liberals are losers several times over. They recounted the ballots so many times the wore the hanging chads off and Algorabge lost by more votes on every recount. How may times do they have to be proven wrong?
Justin, besides you, who
December 10, 2007 - 23:40 ET by jdhawkJustin, besides you, who watches whatever you are calling this program. I call it horse crap.
By the way, if there is anything that men dislike about women (Hollyweird portrayals notwithstanding) it is stupid. Yeah, if you are looking to jump some bones. Then, stupid has an upside. But, if you actually have to interact with a woman on any sort of regular basis, then stupid is just boring. Behar is stupid.
Then there is that going down hill thing that she has going . . . ruff ruff . . . What a bowser.
geez ... 7 years and counting ...
December 11, 2007 - 00:48 ET by pmohbuckthe obsession with bush has blinded liberals and the democrat congress to the point where they project themselves as nothing more than drooling morons ... like grown-ups holding a life-long grudge against the kid who beat them in every game on the playground. it's so childish, you've got to laugh
Puppet Show?
December 11, 2007 - 02:53 ET by TeamcheeserAny one else starting to get the feeling that Behar was the Puppetmaster and Rosie was the puppet? So long as Rosie was around, Joy could feed her (bad word choice) all of her liberal gobbeldy-gook and send Rosie out on the View to spew. That way, Joy could stay behind the curtain and never take the flak.
Maybe now, Whoopie is becoming the Puppetmaster and Joy is demoted to being the puppet! The "Circle of Life" sort of thing!
Let's face it, when Rosie was on the show Joy seemed much less controversial. Now that Rosie's gone, Joy has taken her place and Whoopie is the "reasonable" one. Once Joy goes bonkers they will replace her and Whoopie will become unbearable.