"View" co-host Whoopi Goldberg, an African American woman who grew up in the "Jim Crow" era of the 1950's and 1960's, claimed America is "not as free as it was when I was a kid." This is the same Whoopi who compared modern America to Nazi Germany.
The November 12 edition of "The View" featured noted conservative radio talk show host and best selling author of "Power to the People" Laura Ingraham. Ingraham put veteran journalist Barbara Walters on the defensive on the "do you want to win in Iraq" question. Most notably, though was Whoopi Goldberg’s assertion that America is "not as free" as it once was to Ingraham’s astonishment.
INGRAHAM: It’s a free country though right?
GOLDBERG: Well, it used to be. I used believe that it was, and then a lot of-
INGRAHAM: You don’t think that it’s a free country?
GOLDBERG: Not as free as it was when I was a kid, no, no.
INGRAHAM: I think that, that’s a disconnect.
BEHAR: Nobody was tapping into my phone when I was watching "Howdy Doody."
INGRAHAM: People are flooding into America, because we’re free.
Laura Ingraham also called out the co-hosts on "The View," and in the elite media in general, on not reporting all of the good news that is currently coming out of Iraq. Barbara Walters, who never corrected Joy Behar on her false statements regarding the "Swift Boat" ads, immediately jumped in to say that some things are going well and some are not. Laura Ingraham asked Barbara Walters if she wanted America to win, and Walters immediately grew defensive.
INGRAHAM: We have, right now, in Iraq, really good news coming out of Baghdad. On Veterans’ Day, I think we should talk about that. We have violence down, sectarian violence down, the Al Qaeda is being pushed out and the insurgents by the people of Iraq. And you can sit here, and you can stay with your narrative that we’re big losers and that we’re going to lose in Iraq. But the truth of the matter is things are turning around for the better, and we should recognize it right now.
BEHAR: We’re losing Pakistan now.
INGRAHAM: Let’s recognize it right now!
[applause]
BARBARA WALTERS: Laura, there’s some things going on for the better.
INGRAHAM: A lot of stuff is turning around for the better, Barbara, and you should be-
WALTERS: There are some things that area not, and I think, I think this is a country that is still very unhappy about it. This is still a country that is-
INGRAHAM: But could it change Barbara? Do you want win in Iraq?
WALTERS: Of course we do! No, come on. Of course, we all want to win.
INGRAHAM: Then just say you want to win, and if we’re winning, we should be able to say. If things were turning around, we should say "you know something, it’s not perfect. It’s very difficult, but things are turning around."
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WALTERS: The only thing that I was saying before I was shut off is that we all want things to be better in Iraq. Some things are. Some things are not. But if there are still things that you criticize about the way certain things are being handled, that does not mean that you do not support the troops, and that you do not pray that it all turns out okay.




















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}}---> Babwa
November 12, 2007 - 15:03 ET by Cool ArrowOh how she hated to inch closer to an admission. Babwa must have seen her Dorian Grey reflection for a moment and recoiled inwardly.
how freaking refreshing is
November 12, 2007 - 16:37 ET by TruthMongerhow freaking refreshing is this? Ingraham is on the view now? is it full-time?
Just on for today
November 12, 2007 - 16:49 ET by well99Laura rocks.Her and Michelle are the best.They can deal with issues without needing cards or teleprompters.
Wait til Ann Coulter get an
November 13, 2007 - 12:18 ET by Senior ChiefWait til Ann Coulter get an invitation. I posted earlier to have a show opposite The View time slot with Laura, Michelle and Ann as panelists and invite some liberals, i.e, Sean Penn, Clooney, Striesand, Afleck and the rest of glorified hollyweird folks and leftist politicians. It would kick "The View's" behind pretty bad.
Again, calling Mr. Murdock. Plenty of viewers waiting to see this materialize.
I will watch it
November 13, 2007 - 23:12 ET by well99That would be cool.
BEHAR: Nobody was tapping
November 12, 2007 - 15:09 ET by MightyMouthBEHAR: Nobody was tapping into my phone when I was watching "Howdy Doody."
I had a feeling Behar was helping the enemy! Finally she admits it!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Behar
November 12, 2007 - 16:58 ET by ChaitealoverWho does the old bag think would be interested in tapping her phone now?
Chai
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life. Theodore Roosevelt
Whoppi might be right..
November 12, 2007 - 15:10 ET by Gary HallWhoppi might be right..
Everytime I turn around, the media, led by the taking hand of Democrats, is clamping down on the fair and open exchange of news and ideas for the world. Censorship is back, and where the MSM is not doing it on it's own, the Democrats are trying to legislate it.
Goldberg IS right!
November 12, 2007 - 15:59 ET by kgGoldberg is right. We are not as free as we were 20 years ago. Perhaps she said it for different reasons but the statement is true. Today we have PC police, thought police, can't say many words we could before, can't smoke a cigarette but can smoke rope. Attitudes have changed for the worse. People are angrier, more people dangerous to society feel they can display their perversions and crimes, children can no longer go to the park to play without worry of becoming a victim of some crime, people cram their ideals down our throats and when we choke on it we are called _______phobic.
Yes, there was a time when we were truly free, but not anymore.
Exactly!
November 12, 2007 - 16:08 ET by drillanwrExactly!
And Hollywood leads the way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNCZJls--ec
"Nobody was tapping into my
November 12, 2007 - 15:13 ET by mikej"Nobody was tapping into my phone when I was watching "Howdy Doody."
I've heard smarter arguments given by beauty pagaent contestants.
Oh and Whoopie, I'm sorry that America is such a facist state that you can sit and spew your stupid, ignorant, hateful, venom at whoever you want too w/out any repurcussions whatsoever.
Mike...
November 12, 2007 - 15:17 ET by MightyMouthAny ideas as to what alternate universe these dimwits live in? Simply amazing!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Right, Mike. It's such a
November 12, 2007 - 16:27 ET by motherbeltRight, Mike. It's such a fascist state that everywhere we look, we're face to face with liberals talking endlessly about how they are being silenced.
I would like them to
November 12, 2007 - 16:31 ET by ahusserI would like them to excercise their right to remain silent.
"Nobody was tapping into
November 12, 2007 - 16:29 ET by motherbelt"Nobody was tapping into my phone when I was watching "Howdy Doody." -Whoopi Goldberg
Whoopi, were you allowed to sit anywhere you wanted on the bus at the age when you were watching Howdy Doody?
This shows the sheer idiocy
November 12, 2007 - 15:23 ET by Dan The Man 2This shows the sheer idiocy "We’re losing Pakistan now" because I did not know the USA military was in Pakistan and fighting a war there. It is a severe case of BDS, blame Bush for everything. A gross insight into her thought processes.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Pakistan = Bush's Cambodia
November 12, 2007 - 16:44 ET by drillanwrPakistan = Bush's Cambodia ...
Good cripes! Do these friggin' idiots EVER shut up?
BEHAR: Nobody was tapping into my phone....
November 12, 2007 - 15:26 ET by thomasrhallNobody is tapping into her phone now. They're trying to find terrorists, not idiots.
-Tom-
OMG..LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! The
November 12, 2007 - 16:10 ET by USA4freedomOMG..LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They just have to look at the view, that is where a large batch of them are!!
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Ah - but
November 12, 2007 - 16:17 ET by FastEdeverything she does to become commical, blow-up, so I'd call her a commedic terrorists.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
One can only imaging the
November 12, 2007 - 16:34 ET by drillanwrOne can only imagine the poor-sap FBI, CIA or Homeland Security agent that would have to sit there all day and listen into a "Joy Behar" phone conversation ...
Their guns would have to be collected before sitting down and putting on the headset.
"Nobody is tapping into her
November 12, 2007 - 22:54 ET by Jerry"Nobody is tapping into her phone now. They're trying to find terrorists, not idiots."
Now that is priceless!
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Behar
November 12, 2007 - 15:27 ET by taterWhat I find funny is Joy Joy said two statements which are being ripped here more than Babs fighting to say she wants to win in Iraq. Joy is probably in the same category as Olberman as far as stupidity.
Do you realize how much it costs to run for office? More than any honest man could afford. -Montgomery Burns
"WALTERS: The only thing
November 12, 2007 - 15:32 ET by MightyMouth"WALTERS: The only thing that I was saying before I was shut off is that we all want things to be better in Iraq..."
Goldberg and Behar are the ones out of line. IMHO.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Freedom
November 12, 2007 - 15:57 ET by BradzillaIn a sense I agree with her. For instance, I have to use a helmet to ride a bike or use rollerblades, cannot set off fireworks on July 4th, have to give increasing amounts of my hard-earned money to the government, etc. I don't think that's what she had in mind, though.
She's probably a big fan of
November 12, 2007 - 15:58 ET by Free StinkerShe's probably a big fan of the items you mentioned . . .
Laura not only cleaned
November 12, 2007 - 16:40 ET by drillanwrLaura not only cleaned Bawbaw's clock, but wound it up really really tight ...
"Not as free as it was when
November 12, 2007 - 17:01 ET by Rackie"Not as free as it was when I was a kid, no, no."
... knot free...
What the hell is Whoopi
November 12, 2007 - 17:04 ET by mostlymoderateWhat the hell is Whoopi talking about? A black-jewish-woman that is ugly; how much "freedom" would she have had 50 years ago? I would say that America has become quite the "free" and "tolerant" nation.
"Not as free as it was when
November 12, 2007 - 17:19 ET by Crash"Not as free as it was when I was a kid..."
Excuse me buuuuut .... Whoopie says that "nobody was tapping [her] phone when [she] was watching Howdy Doody."
She was born in 1955. Howdy Doody went off the air in 1960. Of course she felt freer ... she was five. Odds are she didn't have a phone in her house, let alone a television until the mid-60's. They were status items during the early days of television and considered a luxury. Next, blacks were NOT freer then, or has she forgotten?
BEHAR: "We’re losing Pakistan now." This women is thick and has the attention span of a pothead. Uh, Joy honey, stay with Laura, she's talking about Iraq.
Hey Barbara the High Def horror, "we" is not the lefties running the DNC towards Marxism. "We" is you and maybe a few of your closest we's. The we's who really want to win are the men and women in uniform and those of us who identify with conservatives. And something tells me she's not one of us.
Blacks were "free-er" in
November 12, 2007 - 20:37 ET by TruthMongerBlacks were "free-er" in 1955 than they are now - is that what she's claiming? Blacks weren't even as free as they are now in the 60's and 70's when I was a kid - in a very liberal state, no less...
"Not as free as it was when
November 12, 2007 - 17:19 ET by Crash"Not as free as it was when I was a kid..."
Excuse me buuuuut .... Whoopie says that "nobody was tapping [her] phone when [she] was watching Howdy Doody."
She was born in 1955. Howdy Doody went off the air in 1960. Of course she felt freer ... she was five. Odds are she didn't have a phone in her house, let alone a television until the mid-60's. They were status items during the early days of television and considered a luxury. Next, blacks were NOT freer then, or has she forgotten?
BEHAR: "We’re losing Pakistan now." This women is thick and has the attention span of a pothead. Uh, Joy honey, stay with Laura, she's talking about Iraq.
Hey Barbara the High Def horror, "we" is not the lefties running the DNC towards Marxism. "We" is you and maybe a few of your closest we's. The we's who really want to win are the men and women in uniform and those of us who identify with conservatives. And something tells me she's not one of us.
If America is not a free country....
November 12, 2007 - 17:34 ET by szampIf America is not a free country, I would like to know which country they think is free and what is preventing them from moving there. If what they claim is true, they could even request political asylum.
Howdy Doody
November 12, 2007 - 18:00 ET by Carbon SasquatchOf course, it was not Joy's phone. It was her parents' and if they were involved in any political or social activism, Mr Hoover probably did have the phone tapped, their mail intercepted, their bank records examined. Perhaps her mommy had tea with Ethel Rosenberg.
As for Whoopi believing there was more freedom when she was a kid in the 50s, that's pretty much the whole point of being a kid. She didn't have to worry about whether she would be allowed to shop at white-only stores or have playdates with white children...she likely didn't know any white kids and her parents didn't take her to places where her appearance made her unacceptable.
I agree we aren't as free but not for the same reasons
November 12, 2007 - 18:04 ET by LighthouseJI've never been a fan of the PATRIOT Act or any of the things largely because of 9/11. This, cameras everywhere, more invasions of privacy are bound to come.
Put it this way, say in 3 months, we kill Osama and crush Al-Qaeda in Iraq, disarm islamic militants around the world and generally neutralize all forms of terrorism. Do you think cities around the US will take down their cameras, let the PATRIOT Act expire and force government intelligence agencies to give up the swollen surveillance powers that post-9/11 legislation gave them?
Even these domestic laws only apply to us, we could've gone to Iraq without PATRIOT AFAIK-- in fact I would prefer it be like that. When the cameras come down and we have restored the Constitution, then we'll be free.
"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote
"When the cameras come down
November 12, 2007 - 18:46 ET by ckc1227"When the cameras come down and we have restored the Constitution, then we'll be free."
And possibly dead. No biggie though.
Oh, by the way, there is no expectation of privacy on a public street or sidewalk.
I have no problem with the Patriot Act. There isn't one thing it prevents me from doing, well, other than call terrorists in foreign countries. I can live with that infringement.
Oh, so everybody would've
November 12, 2007 - 19:10 ET by LighthouseJOh, so everybody would've been "possibly dead" for the hundreds of years no camera was on any given street corner? What a silly conclusion you've made.
I know there's no expectation of privacy in public, but that's not the issue, is it? The issue is how comfortable we as a society are with allowing the government to suspend rights some of us still hold sacred.
"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote
Cameras
November 12, 2007 - 19:55 ET by Emma GrumpLighthouse, you will never hear the bullet that kills you. I don't understand why some people are so phobic about cameras in public. I go to bank, I am on camera, I fill up my gas tank, I am on camera. I buy groceries, I am on camera, I go to work, I am on camera, but if just one of those cameras helps save one life, then they're worth it. Now, if I were inclined to drop my pants and moon everyone, or if I decided to rob a bank, or a convenience store, or mug an elderly lady, or if I felt like vandalizing cars in parking garages, well, then, heck, I guess I too would scream how my constitutional rights were being eroded. But I'm sure that's just me.
Now, if I were inclined to
November 12, 2007 - 20:30 ET by american-americanNow, if I were inclined to drop my pants and moon everyone
.... You would be popular on YouTube. :-)
Sorry, couldn't help myself...
Seriously though, I don't feel like my freedom is compromised by their presence.
Moon
November 12, 2007 - 21:26 ET by Emma GrumpHa-Ha - Thanks, I'll remember that. when I feel the uncontrollable urge to moon the cop on the corner. But, really, I don't feel my privacy is being intruded upon by the ubiquitous cameras out there. We have cameras mounted on traffic signals so that red light runners can be tagged and ticketed. Doesn't bother me in the least, because I don't do that, because it is against the law, but some folks are livid over this. I just cannot equate something like this with loss of my freedoms.
Again, it's not about
November 12, 2007 - 21:18 ET by LighthouseJAgain, it's not about cameras, it's the principle involved. Cameras being used on the Mexican border is a good move IMO. If there's a camera where a police officer should be but can't because of budget cutbacks, that's one thing. I'm talking about the erosion of our civil liberties at the cost of security.
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
I can't, for the life of me, find any quotes by any credible source that condones erosion of privacy is in the ballpark of a good thing, but that's just me.
"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote
Privacy
November 12, 2007 - 21:44 ET by Emma GrumpBut specifically, exactly what civil liberties have you lost as a result of increased surveillance? I am thinking back 50 years, and I just cannot point to one single freedom that I have lost. We do live in a different world than Wally and the Beaver did, and I don't believe Thomas Jefferson envisioned mass murders at our schools when he penned those words.
It's not about me, it's
November 12, 2007 - 22:19 ET by LighthouseJIt's not about me, it's about all the people in the US that the intelligence agencies now have intelligence by means once (and should still be) deemed unconstitutional.
That's pretty sad you don't think TJ, or everyone else that established our country, that their words are out of sync with todays times. However you try to cut it and slice it, TJ would still roll in his grave if he found out not only what has been done on our part, but more important how complacent people have become. Keep on thinking everything is okay though, good luck with that.
"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote
"Nobody is tapping into her
November 12, 2007 - 18:38 ET by ckc1227"Nobody is tapping into her phone now. They're trying to find terrorists, not idiots."
Best line I've read in awhile. It's true, AND funny.
ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha....
Whoppi is in la-la land as
November 12, 2007 - 18:44 ET by bigtimerWhoppi is in la-la land as usual....Behar still must watch Romper Room, Walters is still a leftist witch...
I just wished conservatives would quit going on this silly little show.
But that's just me and I know full well the argument of why they should...I just wished they (The View) were ignored.
Video on this?
November 12, 2007 - 19:28 ET by MystapittI would love to see Laura clean their clocks. Any video on this? Nothing here or on Youtube.
Whoopi - Not as Free?
November 12, 2007 - 19:53 ET by krista615Excuse me? What was that? Not as free, huh? Okay, Whoopi, let me count the ways….
You are free, in this country, as a black woman with an eighth-grade education, to quote your very own ridiculously high salary – God only knows how much you collect for an hours’ worth of work each day - take it to the bank, and never worry that this money isn’t your own.
You are free to polish your Academy Award while women and children are still being raped and murdered in countries you never bother to visit.
You are free to stand in the middle of the stage at Madison Square Garden to wish Elton John a Happy 60th Birthday, safely guarded by the Secret Servicemen flanking the audience to protect Bill Clinton.
You are free to roam the streets with your bodyguards, your face uncovered, wearing whatever you want, and you never have to worry about being stoned to death because you were a woman who dared to do so.
And if you think there wasn't a real danger that this may have happened to you one day, on American soil, think again.
You are free, Whoopi, to say you are not as free as you once were, while your freedom is being paid for by the blood of our brave men and women. These souls are dying for your right to say, on national airwaves, that you aren’t free. They always have, and they always will, long before we ever got here, and long after you and I are gone.
I beg of you – go over to Iraqi soil, look a soldier in the eye, and say you aren’t as free as you once were. I double-dog dare ya.
Uh-huh. That’s what I thought.
krista -
November 12, 2007 - 19:56 ET by drillanwrHarsh! Very harsh!!
Spot on ...
I wondered how she would fare on The View
November 12, 2007 - 20:44 ET by american-americanLaura seems to have handled herself quite well. I never watch the show myself, as I can't bear to hear their cackling for any more than a couple of seconds soundbite.
I noticed that the transcript notes the audience applauded when she mentioned that they should recognize how well our boys and girls are doing in Iraq. Good for them. Bet that made Bab's head spin.
I agree with Whoopi. We are nowhere near as free as we once were
November 12, 2007 - 21:35 ET by Dave RAnd I bame her, and her Marxist co-horts for that, as well as more than a few RINOs.
Will Laura be invited back?
November 12, 2007 - 22:39 ET by pbthinkerI Love Laura Ingraham. She is, one of the best at questioning liberals on their beliefs. I wish she would have asked Whoopee if she knew anyone that had their phone tapped. I asked this of a liberal, one time, and he just came up with a bunch of crap before he had to admit that, although he didn't know anyone, he knew it was happening. You can't reason with people like that.
Sen. Schumer has said that Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan are going to cause "Republicans" votes, so you know where the liberals stand on this war, they don't want this war won and will do anything to stop that from happening. Their media wing is helping them considerably, by not reporting the good news like they have the bad, and now Hollywierd, with 4 movies in the past few months, is doing their part.
The funny thing is that, in spite of all this effort, the news appears to be getting out anyway. Now, if Barbara would just hire Laura to stay on the show until Elizabeth gets back, more news would come out.
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
The US is currently ranked as the 16th "freest" country.
November 12, 2007 - 22:52 ET by Dave RWe should be THE freest.
Sadly, we aren't.
And we ain't here, either.
Dave by what criteria?
November 12, 2007 - 22:54 ET byFreedom House criteria for an electoral democracy include:
1. A competitive, multiparty political system.
2. Universal adult suffrage.
3. Regularly contested elections conducted on the basis of secret ballots, reasonable ballot security and the absence of massive voter fraud.
4. Significant public access of major political parties to the electorate through the media and through generally open campaigning.
Since we only have two parties well......
(at least it's better than based on free medical care and lack of drugs being illegal)
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
botg,
November 12, 2007 - 23:05 ET by Dave Rhttp://www.backwoods...
Dave
November 12, 2007 - 23:19 ET byWere it in my control there would be a little less free economy as i would tariff China to compensate the American workers for the Chinese using political prisoners and having a labor rate of 50 cents a day.
and that was my answer to the economic link you had up but you fooled me and switched to the backwoods link
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
PC is probably the biggest
November 12, 2007 - 23:10 ET by TruthMongerPC is probably the biggest factor eating away at our freedom here
PC schools make us ignorant - which saps our freedom
PC laws restrict free thinking and speech
Materialistic personal debt cripples our freedom
Big government cripples our freedom - must be financed which cripples our freedom, imposes restrictions which cripple our freedom
Libs haven't done much for freedom
other than now you can get an abortion, get porn, gamble at casinos, watch more trash on tv, in films, in music - so they have advanced some freedom i guess
Laura Ingraham is one of the best communicators of our time...
November 12, 2007 - 23:36 ET by ThalpyWhile Laura Ingraham is one of the best communicators of our time, The View represents some of the worst. During Joy's life it was the Democrats who were busy tapping Dr. King's phones, while the Dixiecrats represented by Democrats Harry Byrd, John Stennis, Russell Long, Al Gore, Sr., Talmadge, Holland, and others were keeping things better for Whoopi by blocking integration, voting, and countless other things. Oh, for the good old days when the Democrats were in power. What a joke. Laura shouldn't add her dignity to such a piece of trash- The View.
No fair
November 13, 2007 - 07:28 ET by well99Just because that is true doesnt mean you have say it.
I hope that...
November 13, 2007 - 00:01 ET by dervishMort Sahl and Lenny Bruce appear to Whoopi in a dream tonight and explain to her what life was like 40 years ago for a potty-mouth comedian. I think there were times when Lenny had as many cops as paying customers in his audience.
EDIT: Turns out Mort Sahl is still kickin'. Maybe he can visit her in person.