Fox News, just as Glenn Beck previously, picked up on an observation that the rest of the mainstream media largely ignored: brush left in place under environmental groups’ pressure fueled much of the fires in southern California. While all of the network’s morning shows ignored this angle (NBC’s "Today," ABC’s "Good Morning America," and CBS’s "The Early Show") the October 25 edition of "Fox and Friends" contained this report from Adam Housley.
"One of the fires up here, near Big Bear hasn't burned that many homes. And we're being told it's because of the forest clearing plan that's been very controversial. We reported on this in years past. There are some certain extreme environmental groups against this. And they don't want underbrush cleared. They don't want some trees cut down. They don't want big branches trimmed. But in the areas where that was done, not one home burned. Here in Running Springs, that process has not been put into place, and there have been hundreds of homes lost. And there are some people up here saying the reason why is because this forest clearing plan was not used."















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of course it won't be
October 25, 2007 - 16:31 ET by bamananaof course it won't be reported till they can find some way to blame it Bush.
If they did blame "Brush",
October 25, 2007 - 16:39 ET by Chris NormanIf they did blame "Brush", it'd be a typo...
Haha... nature has a way of
October 25, 2007 - 16:44 ET by MightyMouthHaha... nature has a way of cleaning up no matter how bad the human "insects" screw up! Looks like the tree huggers lost their trees regardless of how good their intentions where. (funny... but mostly very tragic)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I remember --
October 25, 2007 - 16:58 ET by kdizzydazeI remember when Bush was working on a Forestry bill of some sort several years back and he explained how the clearing of under brush would greatly help in minimizing forest fires and deadly blazes.
I also remember several whack job environmentalist groups spouting how much they were against the bill (courtesy of the MSM).
In places of San Diego
October 25, 2007 - 17:00 ET by rx4musicIn places of San Diego County it is illegal to clear brush in some areas. The environuts have made it nearly impossible for people to get permits to do the works because it is supposedly the habitat for species like the "gnat catcher". People have been fined as much as $5,000 for clearing brush on their own property (without a permit).
Googling the gnat catcher I even found this! I had almost forgotten! Sorry Noel.
To be fair ... Glenn Beck
October 25, 2007 - 17:12 ET by drillanwrTo be fair ...
Glenn Beck on his show on Headline News the other night had on two guys who were noting how poor forest management, under pressure from enviro-groups, have not been cleaning out old fuels on the forest floors, and dead and diseased trees and such ... And how these groups have pressured state and local governments into forbidding folks from even managing their own properties in such preventative ways.
But that IS Glenn Beck ... The lone voice of reason on CNN.
The rest of the TV media have been obsessed with pinning it on global warming ... and looking for a way to pin it on Bush, via the Iraq war.
Yes, I did cite Glenn Beck
October 25, 2007 - 17:29 ET by Justin McCarthyYes, I did cite Glenn Beck on my post. I said that none of the network morning shows covered it. I know that on "60 Minutes" in Scott Pelley's global warming alarmist story, he very briefly mentioned the brush issue. Other than that, they've been largely quiet.
Oh, cripes, Justin ... I'm
October 25, 2007 - 18:36 ET by drillanwrOh, cripes, Justin ... I'm sorry. Yes, you did cite Beck. Sorry, not reading/looking very closely today ... One of those days ...
My bad.
This is what annoys me about the press.
October 25, 2007 - 20:49 ET by pbthinkerThis is the thing that annoys me about the media. If the Democrats wanted forestry management, because it really is the right thing to do, they'd be pressuring local governments to get it done. Instead, all because of politics, they avoid this issue because it is Democrat constituencies who are against it. It's good for people, good for states, good for the country, and the press is still taking sides. Just like Global Warming, some of them have to know Gore is wrong on this issue, and yet they remain quiet. The Silence of the Lambs at work
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
What's the root cause?
October 26, 2007 - 08:51 ET by JohnMReading the above comments and thinking about how we allow bad decisions to be made in the name of supposedly "good" causes...
Why do we pander to these emotions when we know, from experience and factual information, that our very lives and fortunes are at risk, and that we have the tools to manage and reduce that risk? How have we allowed them to blackmail our feelings and force us to do things that make no sense? How do they gain so much traction on the fear and worry over such small things as "gnat-catchers" (whatever they are), when much larger things are put at such great risk? Are we stupid? How do they get so much buy-in to their agenda? What needs to be said to put it into proper perspective?
As the road of progress is laid down, something else is going to get displaced. That's a fact. Knowing that forest species reproduce as a result of fires, we can't build homes in the woods and expect them to NOT get burned - unless we specifically do something to change the environment.
So who will tell these environutjobs that we hear their concerns, understand the loss/consequences, and empathize, but that it's going to be handled rationally, so sit down and behave? If the community can't get them in check, can the banks who lend the mortgages? How about the insurance companies who pay out to rebuild?
As I think of all the misery this activism causes, I see them as obstructing the rational expectation for "life, liberty, and happiness". I wonder if some of this activism doesn't amount to treason...
I think we're just too polite - out of common respect, we give them and their agenda too much leeway. No more Mr. Nice Guy! No more fantasy, feel-good legislation.
We should be more direct, truthful, and insistent that their concerns must have a "baseline" in the reality of the environment, culture, and society that already exists.
Class Action Law Suit
October 26, 2007 - 10:35 ET by PVWhen are we going to turn things around on the environuts? Isn't this the appropriate time for home owners who have lost their homes due to the extreme negligence, abuses of legal power, and scientific malpractice to bring class action law suits against all of these whacko enviro groups.
It's long past time to start hanging these people up on their own petards.
It Isn't Easy Being Green
October 26, 2007 - 15:00 ET by EllisWyattThe following excerpts should shed some light on this situation:
Most people have a mistaken view of environmentalism. They see it as a movement whose goal is to protect the environment so that we, and future generations, may continue to enjoy it. Environmentalists might call for certain sacrifices--like stern priests calling upon us to do penance for our sins--but people take their word for it that those sacrifices will turn out to be for the good of "society." People feel virtuous in paying more for those organic blueberries and spending time washing out tin cans and nasty cloth diapers, because they see it as a sacrifice for the "greater good." And although "going green" may demand some cost and effort, it need not--on this view--be too burdensome nor demand personal hardships that are too great.
But in fact, the goal of environmentalism is not any alleged benefit to mankind; its goal is to preserve nature untouched--to prevent nature from being altered for human purposes. Observe that whenever there is a conflict between the goals of "preserving nature" and pursuing some actual human value, environmentalists always side with nature against man. If tapping Arctic oil reserves to supply our energy needs might affect the caribou, environmentalists demand that we leave vast tracts of Arctic tundra completely untouched. If a new freeway bypass will ease traffic congestion but might disturb the dwarf wedge mussel, environmentalists side with the mollusk against man. If a "wetland" is a breeding ground for disease-carrying insects, environmentalists fight to prevent it being drained no matter the toll of human suffering.
It is simply not true that environmentalism values human well being. It demands sacrifices, not for the sake of any human good, but for the sake of leaving nature untouched. It calls for sacrifice as an end in itself.
Though environmentalists will often claim to be opposed to merely "indiscriminate" or "excessive" consumption of natural resources, their ideology actually drives them to oppose any act of altering nature for human purposes. The environmentalist goal of "preserving nature" unavoidably conflicts with the requirements of human life: Man's basic means of survival is to reshape nature to serve his ends, to take the raw materials of his environment and use them to produce values. But this requires "touching" nature, not leaving it untouched. Even organic crops require land and water and energy; even hybrid cars are built of metal and plastic and glass, and use up fuel. All human activity, on whatever scale, violates the environmentalist injunction to "leave nature alone."
You can read the full article here: http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=15867&news_iv_ctrl=1021
If you're not outraged at the media, you haven't been paying attention.