Rush Limbaugh Discusses Left's Smear Tactics and His Response

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By Justin McCarthy | October 16, 2007 - 16:58 ET

The October 16 edition of "Fox and Friends" featured conservative talk trailblazer Rush Limbaugh to discuss Harry Reid’s and 40 other Senate Democrats’ smear of Limbaugh. The radio talk show host called the letter "the smear of a private citizen...based on a total lie."

Video (4:21): Real (3.19) and Windows (2.66 MB), or MP3 audio (1.98).

In response, Rush is now auctioning the letter on E-Bay to raise money for the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation, which provides scholarships for children of Marines and federal law enforcement officials killed in the line of duty. Rush noted he will match the final bid to go to the same charity. He asked Reid and the other 40 Democrats to do the same. As of this morning, he has "not heard from them."

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Limbaugh also discussed the hard left organization that perpetrated this smear, Media Matters. Limbaugh asserted that this and similar organizations exist "to try to discredit those of us in the quote/unquote ‘new media’ from having any credibility beyond our existing audiences because they cannot come in the arena of ideas and debate us and win."

Hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade cited a recent poll which showed Rush Limbaugh’s approval ratings in Nevada are higher than Harry Reid’s.

 

The entire transcript is below.

STEVE DOOCY: Actually Rush Limbaugh, right this second, is in one of those buildings behind the Wiggles by about a block. Why? To talk to us. Here's the story: Senate Democrats wrote Rush a letter to get him thrown off the air. They wrote it to his boss at Clear Channel. Well, now Rush Limbaugh is auctioning off that very letter to raise money for our troops. Joining us now on the phone, talk radio legend Rush Limbaugh. Good morning to you sir.

RUSH LIMBAUGH: Hey, hey Steve. How are you? It's such an honor to follow the Wiggles or whatever they are.

DOOCY: The Wiggles that's right. Okay, so you're, right now you're auctioning it off on E-Bay. The bid is $50,300 with three days to go. What is the historical significance, Rush Limbaugh, of this letter that Harry Reid and company wrote you?

LIMBAUGH: Well, there's two things. First, it's, it's an abuse of power. I mean, here you have Harry Reid on the floor of the Senate denouncing me for 10 minutes, reading this letter, then asking his Democrat buddies to sign it of which 40 did. You know, that's a failure. He didn't even get them all to sign. No Republicans did. But they did this during work hours. And this is the smear of a, of a private citizen by this greatest deliberative body in the world based on a total lie that they have to know is a lie. So for that reason it's historic. My parents would not believe this. I wish they could know what all is happening to their son and what their son is causing. You know, the thing about this is most people, I think, cower in this kind of situation. And I'm trying to laugh at it and make fun of them and fight back which is probably putting a bigger target on my back as far as these people are concerned. But this is, this is just something that you can't ignore. Most of the time you ignore these kinds of things but you can't this because this is unique. I don't think in modern American history there's ever been something like this happen where the Senate has gone after a private citizen and asked his partner in broadcasting to shut him up, censor him, apologize him, spank him or what have you.

BRIAN KILMEADE: Sure. What Democrats are saying, and you know this better than anybody, they're saying, "well, that's what you get, Republicans, for going after Moveon.org."

 

LIMBAUGH: Well, you know, here's the -- this is the thing that everybody's missing about this. The Democrats are saying this is tit for tat, look you guys did this to Move On. You made this censor move, so we're going to make Limbaugh get censored. The problem is I didn't do anything here. I was minding my own business, I said what I said on the radio. The same group of people, Media Matters, Moveon.org, it's the same George Soros/Hillary Clinton organization did both things. They did the Moveon.org ad and they did the smear of me. I am the record. They twisted what I said, on purpose, out of context, in order, I think to deflect the Petraeus ad because it totally backfired on him. The country ended up loving Petraeus, the surge is workig, Move On had to pay the full bill with "The New York Times," it totally backfired. They had to deflect that, and so they came at me. But they created both of these. There can't be any tit for tat because they are responsible for both of these episodes.

DOOCY: Sure, now Rush we're looking at some video from, I believe, Philadelphia over the last couple of days where you were on stage, and you're exhibiting this letter that Harry Reid and the other Senators signed and sent to your boss at Clear Channel. Now, as I understand it, whatever is raised on E-Bay you're going to match it right? And the money all goes to the Marines.

LIMBAUGH: It goes to a- the charity is the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation started by a bunch of Marines and FBI agents here in New York in the mid 1990's. And it funds college scholarships for the children of Marines and federal law enforcement officers who were killed in action, such as during the Oklahoma City bombing. There were a lot of customs people in there, Secret Service people that were killed, and, you know, not just military. Sometimes in massive cases they also provides such scholarships for other service branches beyond the Marines so, yeah, the money is being raised will go through Friday at 1:00. I think the big money is holding back here until Friday, so as not to bid this. I think it's going to get huge as we get toward the 1:00 Friday deadline. I'm going to match it. And I have asked Senator Reid and the other 40 Democrats that signed their letter to show their support for the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation and ask them to match it as well.

DOOCY: Yeah, good luck on that, Rush.

LIMBAUGH: I have not heard from them.

DOOCY: Rush, speaking of Harry Reid, how do you- what kind of pleasure do you take in the fact that a local paper out in Nevada has done a public opinion poll and your approval ratings are actually higher than Harry Reid in his own home state?

[Laughing]

LIMBAUGH: I love it because I'm not even a politician. He's been an elected official from Nevada for 30 years. Can you say Tom Daschle? You know, he's, he's not up until 2010, but his negatives are higher than mine. I've got a, got a higher approval rank, two points higher than he is. I think -- where I saw that somewhere. It was a Las Vegas newspaper. The last line was the thing about liberal, "he's trying to be polarizing," which I'm not, but that's what they think. "Harry Reid is just doing it anyway, which is not good." Hillary Clinton, if you look at that poll, too, you'll see in Nevada her negatives are 50. You know, everybody thinks there's a sense of inevitability about her. But I don't, I can't recall anytime in this country electing somebody as polarizing with such high negatives. So this is going to be, and this is all part of the 2008 race. Right now the Democrats are running against me because I have a connection with a large percentage of the American people who think and are open-minded. And the Republicans haven't chosen a nominee yet. So, right now, they're coming after me. It's like a badge of honor.

DOOCY: Well, Rush, you're not alone. They came after O'Reilly. They took some of his comments out of context. And, and look at Media Matters, what they did to Imus.

LIMBAUGH: Well, that's a little -- don't want me in with that. O'Reilly and I have something in common that we were lied about. Imus said what he said.

DOOCY: He did, but Media Matters -- nobody really heard what Imus said until Media Matters brought the tape out and started sending it to different journalists.

 

LIMBAUGH: That is very key. The people that heard Imus say it didn't care. There was no brouhaha for two days, like my comment with Donovan McNabb. I made it on Sunday. It wasn't until Tuesday the world blew up on it, but that was the local Philadelphia media. What you have to understand, at least from my perspective, is that 1988 when my radio show started and gave birth to all of this new media, back then they had a monopoly, ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN. That was it in broadcast. You had the two newspapers, the news magazines and they controlled what was reported, what wasn't reported and what was commented upon. They've lost that monopoly. Liberalism can only flourish when they have a media monopoly. So the Matter Matters organization-- when we say Media Matters, say Hillary Clinton and George Soros. She's even admitted to coming up with the idea and help start it. And it is to, it is to try to discredit those of us in the quote/unquote "new media" from having any credibility beyond our existing audiences because they cannot come in the arena of ideas and debate us and win. They have to shut us up. They have to discredit us. This has been happening to me for 12, 14 years now. I know exactly what's going on and when you do, and you guys have a good beat on it, too. You know what Media Matters is all about. It's a fascinating thing, too you made a good point. I want to elaborate on this talking about Imus. I've got a radio show and I've got a website. And people can come to it. You know, you don't need a secret decoder and a super secret radio to listen. You just turn on the radio and tune to the station I'm on. You come to my website. You can hear what I say, read what I said, but the drive-by media doesn't do that. They take their lead from Media Matters so whatever Media Matters says I said is what they think happened. You know, during this whole thing, Steve, nobody from the drive-bys called me to ask me did you release statements? They just ran with it because they're all on the same playing field, all on the same side of the aisle, the media, Media Matters, you name it. We know this. We know how to combat it. Our connection with the audience is what sustains us during these controversies.

DOOCY: Sure. Now Rush, speaking of the mainstream media, you know, General Sanchez, a couple of days ago, was quoted as saying that it was a nightmare in Iraq. And that little soundbite was played everywhere. But what the mainstream media did not report and I know you did and so did we, was the fact that he went on to a larger lambasting of the mainstream media in general that their coverage, essentially, was dishonest.

 

LIMBAUGH: It was devastating. It was a devastating and accurate indictment. But here's- what they do, Steve, is not a secret. They are who they are. Things are what they are. They do what they do. The thing people need to understand is why. The Democrat party, the drive-by media are willing accomplices with one another. The media itself has now gotten more partisan and more obvious about it than ever before because they've lost their monopoly. So the Democrat party's invested in defeat in Iraq. They cannot afford a political or military victory in Iraq because they have no way they can share in it. They have no way they can say we help. They have been deriding the troops. They have been calling them murderers. Harry Reid says the surge didn't work. He waived the white flag of surrender back in May. The worst thing that can happen is for us to be showing success, which is happening in large numbers over there, and even Thomas Rich at "The Washington Post" now has to admit it. "The Washington Post" in the editorial in Sunday had to admit it. So this, this when Sanchez came out and did his usual beat up the troops and beat up the effort and so forth, that's all they want to hear because that's the narrative. The narrative on the table is we're losing, we can't win, Bush has screwed it up, so ignore everything else which means you never get the truth or you very rarely do in the drive-by media anymore.

DOOCY: Sure, and you mentioned Media Matters, which is an outfit run by this fellow by the name of David Brock who was once upon a time worked on the right then went over to the left side. And in fact, this David Brock character has admitted that he published a bunch of stuff, that he simply had made up. But his organization which is supposed to be a watchdog of conservative misinformation, Media Matters only takes shots at guys like you, at Fox News. They never, ever touch anybody on MSNBC. They never mentioned anybody on CNN.

LIMBAUGH: Well, they do, though, sometimes just for cover. They will rip a Democrat or liberal media person if they attack Hillary. That organization exists for one reason and that's to get Hillary Clinton elected. Make no mistake about this.

DOOCY: Why do you say that Rush?

LIMBAUGH: Because she started it. What do you think MoveOn.org means? MoveOn.org was formed in the 90's. It meant can we move on from the Clinton scandals? You've got George Soros money with all of these organizations in an indirect way. Brock is a flunky. You know, he's been all over the ideological map. Some of the stuff he wrote earlier about Anita Hill, the troopers in Arkansas, he didn't deny the facts. He just said later he wished that he hadn't written them and published them and so forth. But who appointed them an official watch dog and who watches them?

KILMEADE: That's a good point.

LIMBAUGH: Nobody challenges on the left anything they have to say. Media Matters may as well be the executive producers and the line producers for MSNBC's primetime. If Media Matters went out of business, MSNBC primetime would have to go dark.

DOOCY: Good point. Rush, before you leave, you got 30 seconds. In addition to the historic letter that people are bidding on, on E-Bay right now that Harry Reid sent you, what else do they get? The atache case and what else?

LIMBAUGH: Yeah, the Halliburton atache case, by the way. They get that. They get a letter from me thanking them. A couple of other surprises. I'm still thinking how we're going to mount this. I think I want too mount this in an official archival document as though it would be posted in the Smithsonian.

DOOCY: Alright, well, once again, the bidding ceases in three hours, or rather, three days, four hours, 16 minutes and 25 seconds. The bid right now on E-Bay is at $50,300. Rush Limbaugh, we thank you very much for joining us today.

—Justin McCarthy is a news analyst at Media Research Center.

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DFTT...Hey thanks...I

DFTT...

Hey thanks...I was just going to do that...GMTA.

Last I heard on Rush it was past 50,000. (I will punch it up later)

Still silence from Whispering Harry and crew....lol.

I see it is $56,000. now....I love Rush! 

It's now at $56,000.

It's now at $56,000.

Has there been any word on Rush's challenge to Reid et al, to match the bid, as he intends to?

On his show today, Rush had the head of the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation, who explained what they do, how many scholarships they have given out, etc. He also said that Rush has given "millions" (of his own money) to the Foundation.

Backbone

Now if the rest of the Republicans grew a spine like Limbaugh’s maybe true leadership would emerge.

 

As it stands now I’m voting for Rudy.

Rush is the man

I first heard of Newsbusters from Rush.  Brent Bozell, Sean Hannity, Michael Medved, Thomas Sowell, Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, the historian Hansen whose first name escapes me at the moment, Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas, Fox News Channel as a startup long before they got here to my midwest area, Laura Ingaham, Drudge, Mark Steyn(sp? the Canadian columnist who writes from Chicago, I think), Landmark Legal, that white comedian guy, and the list goes on and on and on.  I willingly tune in for my marching orders from this list of so called, by the left, charlatans.  Long live Rush.  God Bless Rush, the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation, and the USA. 

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Fly like a laser guided bomb to any comment you've ever made.  No more time wasting scrolling back and forth.

Rush Baby?

BTW, Justin McCarthy, are you by chance a Rush Baby?  I'm an old fart and you don't look like an old fart, to me.  Good piece.  Thank you.

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Hi nofate... He has got

Hi nofate...

He has got to be a Rush baby...Rush is getting quite a lot of those plus grand-babies too I heard the other day from a caller ...good thing for this country too.

Rush Babies

And thank God, too.  We need them. 

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

 Justin... Thank you so

 Justin...

Thank you so much for having this out here...great work. 

I caught all of these great words this morning from Rush and he is exactly right plus he put it succinctly for all to follow, with little interruption between all of them, it was just delicious...everything and I mean everything was said about the agenda of the msm and the politicians on the left, Hillary/Soros/Moveon/Media Matters...which adds up to treason, war crimes whatever you want to call it as far as I am concerned when it comes to their concerted effort for the defeat for us in Iraq.

For a great hearty laugh for me was when he said the words below...no truer words either...

(Ubermann may want to listen up...of course he will have Rush Limbaugh as Worse Person in the World again tonight dontcha' know...lol.) 

LIMBAUGH: Nobody challenges on the left anything they have to say. Media Matters may as well be the executive producers and the line producers for MSNBC's primetime. If Media Matters went out of business, MSNBC primetime would have to go dark.

Rush is the man, always has

Rush is the man, always has been, always will be.

The Halliburton atache case...was a nice touch

Rush is kicking "phoney Senator" buns

Rush is entertaining the Troops

Rush is giving money (again) to the Troops

Rush is bringing down a Senator who tried to bring him down.....but the Senator stuck his nose in something he should not have. 

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

I laughed myself silly when

I laughed myself silly when he reported that on his show Friday about Halliburton JT....

Just stick it to 'em a little more and give it a good twist!

I loved it...I love it all.

BT, I think Rush is more

BT,

I think Rush is more effective than other conservative talk show hosts because, rather than just railing about the outrageous things the Democrats do, he mocks and parodies them. He cuts them down to size, revealing their hypocricy and shallow silliness - that can do (and does) so much damage.

Couldn't agree more

Couldn't agree more Chris...plus he adds laughter too...something the left just doesn't understand.

I love almost all the parodies that he has...excellent work.

A Tale of Two Hosts

I listened to the last part of Rush and the first part of Hannity today. One has the light deft touch that leaves me laughing, while the other is so heavy handed and earnest that he's depressing. I'll listen to Heavy Handed Hannity, but Rush is in a class by himself..

Chris.... Hear!

Chris....

Hear! Hear!

Now I am off to listen to some of Glenn Beck...it is about Hillary right off the bat, listening to enemies...illegally, nothing new with that scenario with her eh?

BT,One more thing. I'm

BT,

One more thing. I'm getting a little annoyed with Beck and his "plague on both parties" routine. He effectively shows the outrages of the Democrats, but then turns around and includes the Republicans in his "partisanship is destroying our country" mantra. He did it again last night. I don't know what he's talking about or what he wants. Just which Republican is he referring to? I've racked my brain and for the life of me, can't think of a one, who is viciously partisan. I wish the Republicans would show some partisanship and take a stand. How does one oppose what the Democrats are trying to do and remain unpartisan? It's like he's positioning himself so he's not seen by CNN viewers as a Republican or something like that. What do you think?

The democrats' idea of

The democrats' idea of non-partisanship is everyone does what they want.

I am also tired already of people saying both sides need to to stop fighting and do what's right for the country.

Well DUH! That's a no-brainer. The only problem is that the parties have differing ideas about what's "right" for the country. Hence, the arguing. That's what different parties are all about.

mb, Yet Beck includes

mb, Yet Beck includes Republicans in his rants against "corrosive partisanship", without citing why he is including them. I get annoyed with this old "I hate politics, why can't they just fix the problems?" schtick. It goes with the airheadedly "moderate", "I don't vote for the party, I vote for the man" school of voting. Surely, he isn't naive enough to believe that politicians can actually do something without politics being involved. If he wants conservative solutions to problems, does he want the Republicans to go along with the Dems and their "solutions" for the sake of bipartisanship? Like I said, I don't know what he means or wants. Is Besk just sloganeering here, because it sounds good to some?

Yet Beck includes

Yet Beck includes Republicans in his rants against "corrosive partisanship", without citing why he is including themI think he's just sloganeering to some extent.

I agree he's sloganeering to a large extent. They can't just fix the problems (and he knows it) because they not only have different ideas on how to fix them, they can't even agree on what the problems ARE. His "just fix it!" attitude is childishly simplistic.

It's like Obama's platitudes about "a new kind of politics" or Hillary Clinton's "conversation." Sounds great, but doesn't mean jack.

Beck's a sharp guy in a lot

Beck's a sharp guy in a lot of ways, but he just falls down with this. It makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever.

I agree, Chris. I like the

I agree, Chris. I like the guy, but he just drives me nuts sometimes.

Not to beat him to death

Not to beat him to death (because I do like him, overall), but I wish he'd tone down, just a little, all the sarcasm, the eye rolling, the wild gestures, etc. He is pretty funny, likeable, and intelligent, but his mannerisms and schticks sometime get in the way of the argument he is trying to make.

The thing that drives me

The thing that drives me nuts on his radio show (which is where I generally catch him) is the looooong pauses. I hate to tell you how many times I have turned on the radio, heard nothing, and thought it wasn't on the station; I get ready to work the dial, and then he starts talking again.

LOL I guess we have given him a good working over... I do like the guy tho....especially his "duct tape alert!!!"

I call those long pauses

I call those long pauses "The Jim Rome Pause". A lot of broadcasters try to do it, especially locally. I suspect them of not doing it for effect, but to kill some more broadcast time (they don't know how to fill it anyway). I guess we'll just have to call Beck "a work in progress" and hope he settles down.

Rush was in rare form this

Rush was in rare form this morning.

Is there anyone better than this guy? Instead of meekly going away, Rush throws it back in their faces, helps a great charity, and makes the dims look bad once again, because you know none will donate any money themselves.

They DO support the troops though, just ask 'em!

The best and most effective

The best and most effective and deadly ammo is the ammo the enemy/opposition gives you ...

Rush's best comment -

I like when he's defending the phony soldier comment (9/28) - "I was talking about a genuine phony soldier. And by the way, Jesse MacBeth's not the only one. How about this guy Scott Thomas who was writing fraudulent, phony things in The New Republic about atrocities he saw that never happened? How about Jack Murtha blanketly accepting the notion that Marines at Haditha engaged in wanton murder of innocent children and civilians? " 

He says right there that Jesse MacBeth isn't the only phony soldier he's talking about...Jack Murtha?  I didn't know he lied about his service. 

See you are still

See you are still attempting to discredit one of my fine patriotic hero's in life mg...

Don't you have anything better to do than troll with your life?

Murtha is a liar...plus one of our greatest enemies within the House. He is pure filth.

And you r point is? You

And you r point is?

You need to read the book

Stolen Valor
How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of Its Heroes and Its History
B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley

In it you will see how the American fighting man has been inpersonated since the War in Vietnam by people who attempt to pad their resumes by claiming veterans status, such as those like Jesse Macbeth.  Often it is to gain excuse for offense such as phoney PTSD claims, or to falsely nestle in societies veterans safety net.

Oh by the way, did you know that half of the supposed veterans who participated in John Kerry's Anti-Vietnam War Winter Soldier event in Detroit were not actually veterans?  THese were the same guys he speaks of saying

They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

The same thing is obviously happening today as societies losers are setting themselves up for honors they do not deserve in the outlying  years.

Hi BD... I am still

Hi BD...

I am still waiting for Murtha to apologize (right, when pigs fly most likely) about Haditha adn calling our men murderers...

I just wanted to mention this book too, I haven't read it yet but saw Buzz Patterson on Book-Notes on C-SPAN this week-end and want to get it for my husband for Xmas and read it too...I was wondering f you had read any of his work. I really couldn't tear myself away when he was speaking, he tells it like it is, about Hillary too.

....anyway here is a link for those interested.

   'The Left's Campaign to Destroy Our Military'

Actually, old friends of

Actually, old friends of mine served as analysts in the Clinton White House and often referred to a book called "Dereliction" by Patterson which they recommended. 

I have yet to read it, but it was highly spoken of.

Thanks BD.

Thanks BD.

Dereliction of Duty

BD, bt:

Dereliction of Duty, by Robert Patterson

Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Robert "Buzz" Patterson was a military aide to President Clinton from May 1996 to May 1998 and one of five individuals entrusted with carrying the "nuclear football"—the bag containing the codes for launching nuclear weapons. This responsibility meant that he spent a considerable amount of time next to the president, giving him a unique perspective on the Clinton administration. Though he arrived at the job "filled with professional devotion and commitment to serve," he left believing that Clinton had "sown a whirlwind of destruction upon the integrity of our government, endangered our national security, and done enormous harm to the American military in which I served."  

Rush has mentioned this book several times in the past.

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Have you seen the video of

Have you seen the video of blogger Jason Mattera from the Young America's Foundation confronting Murtha about the charges being dropped? Murtha says the trial is still going on...then ducks out the door.

My bet is he will never apologize. He will just hope that it is forgotten; and his willing accomplices in the media will make that happen.

Phony Soldiers

This is a great book.  I read it several years ago, and when Kerry came up, I was amazed at how the media made it appear that the phonies were real.  Once again, in Rush's case, it is the media and the U.S. Senate engaged in willing fraud perpetrated by MM, thus the elect Shillary campaign.  They have managed to perpetrate a Kafkaesque scenario where Rush is accused and pilloried for doing something that he didn't do.

Just another note on Rush's amazing ability to turn it around on them, check out Jim Kalstrom's response on Rush's show this afternoon.  You will need a subscription:

"Nice being with you, Rush.  I have to call you because I want the listening public to know that the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation, which you've been such a tremendous supporter of over the years, Rush, you've been our biggest donor by far.  I mean, ladies and gentlemen, this man has given millions and millions of his own dollars to the foundation, plus he's asked the loyal listeners, and they've donated millions and millions of dollars.  Rush, every time you talk about the foundation, we get letters with ten dollar bills, with fifty cents, with hundred-dollar bills, you know, from thousands and thousands of your listeners.  Now, we're not a political organization.  We come from all different stripes.  Most of us were in Vietnam.  Some were in Korea.  We didn't particularly enjoy coming back to the United States when we came back.  There wasn't much of a welcoming committee, so we feel it's absolutely critical to take care of the troops, take care of these heroes that are fighting this war.  

Whatever the politicians think of it, they're over there supporting the United States, our freedom, our democracy, and to date we've given in excess of 2,700 scholarships to these young children who have lost a parent.  And, Rush, you've financed probably 40% of those.  I mean, you've done more for the military than anyone I know of, and I've been involved in military circles for a long, long time.  So to call you anything but the true patriot, the true supporter of the military that you are, is just absolutely wrong.  I mean, there's no one who has done more for these children, these families, these daughters, you know, these wives." 

 

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Not only Macbeth

I like when he's defending the phony soldier comment (9/28) - "I was
talking about a genuine phony soldier. And by the way, Jesse MacBeth's
not the only one. How about this guy Scott Thomas who was writing
fraudulent, phony things in The New Republic
about atrocities he saw that never happened? How about Jack Murtha
blanketly accepting the notion that Marines at Haditha engaged in
wanton murder of innocent children and civilians?

He says right there that Jesse MacBeth isn't the only phony soldier
he's talking about...Jack Murtha? I didn't know he lied about his
service.
mgerardn

He meant that Jesse Macbeth wasn't the only one fabricating stories about our soldiers and his own experiences. Scott Thomas was another. And someone made up a story about Haditha, which turned out not to be true, and Murtha accepted it.

Limbaugh frequently relays quickly from one subject to another connected one, sometimes in mid-sentence, when he is on a roll. Pay attention. If you can't keep up, take notes.

Taking notes isn't

Taking notes isn't conducive to deliberately misinterpreting comments made by Rush and others.

Good for Rush. I didn't know moveon ended up having to pay

full price for the add. That is great. The best thing Rush says that is so true with liberals is they can't compete in the arena of ideas so they have to try to discredit people with out of context quotes and outright lies. They have to try and silence them.

Anyone who thinks the media has any justification to just run with these Media Matters and Moveon hit pieces without even interviewing their targets is really brainwashed. Cant' some of these liberals even realize that they might not always agree with everything Hillary Clinton or Barrak O'Bama says? They just sit back and cheer when this kind of stuff happens completely oblivious to the fact that they might some day think for themselves and have a different thought than their leaders.

Castro had a lot of people voluntarily signing up for the revolution who later came to regret it but it's too late, they can't talk about it. They only thing they can do is risk their life coming to America on a raft.

ebay update LMAO how wonderful the free enterprise is :)

Posted once again read it!

Entitlement over infrastructure every SINGLE time.

 

You notice Reid and his

You notice Reid and his cohorts have not said a single word about Rush Limbaugh or this story since Rush's announcment? I'll bet Reid had no idea that Rush was friends with the CEO of Clear Channel.

And every time the bid goes up another thousand, Harry Reid must just....well, you know. LOL!

 

Dingy Harry gets even

Dingy Harry gets even dingier...

Limbaugh letter

One would think that since this whole controversy revolves around the issue of reportorial accuracy, Rush would have been quick to correct Doocy's false characterization of the Reid letter. 

Doocy kicks off the interview with the assertion that the letter was written  "to get him [Rush] kicked off the air".  That was not true, and Rush should have said so.

Jer

Oh, really?

Oh, really? It sounds like part of their overall plan to us.

Really

Good attempt to try to change the direction of the story......NOT. 

The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program...........Ronald Reagan

 

Deliberate misinterpretation

Deliberate misinterpretation of remarks - feigned shock and offense - MSM repetition - Explanation - more critiscm - pretended outrage on Senate Floor - More Criticism - MSM repetition - Explanations - More criticism - Demands for "Fairness" Doctrine - Hillary elected - "Fairness" Doctrine re-established - severe limitation of conservative radio talk show programming - no more Rush. Yep, sounds like part of a plan...

Technically true

That is technically true. Reid didn't actually ask for Rush to be taken off the air. He asked Clear Channel to "publicly repudiate these comments that call into question their service and sacrifice and to ask Mr. Limbaugh to apologize for his comments."

Rush has usually characterized that way; he says he has said nothing that he need apologize for. Why he didn't correct Doocy, I don't know; maybe it didn't seem worth the time at the time.

But Reid would not have been satisfied with just an apology, which is why Rush was right to stand firm and say he had nothing to apologize for. It would have been only the first step, like Imus.  If he had succeeded in forcing Rush to apologize, even by saying "if anyone misconstrued my comment,"  the next step would have been getting him off the air.

 

Thanks, motherbelt, and I

Thanks, motherbelt, and I agree with most of your analysis.  But, I doubt if Reid harbored any real expectation of forcing a 'voluntary' apology by Rush.  I think the most he thought possible was some sort of disavowal statement from Clear Channel, and that was a long shot.  It was mostly a PR political stunt by the Democrats in the wake of the MoveOn mess.

Of course, as you probablay know, I'm no fan of Limbaugh, but this "phony soldiers" story was a phony controversy.  Well, let me revise that...not completely phony, but a very weak case nevertheless.

Jer

I notice you said you agree

I notice you said you agree with "most of" my analysis. I suppose you really think that Dingy Harry would have been happy with a "disavowal" from CC? Yeah, right. Once they did that (BIG "if" there), the pressure would have been on for them to "do something about it" other than just words. That's how it went with Imus....first the outrage, then the apology, then the call for more severe measures.

I do agree with you that they fabricated the story to distract from the "General BetrayUs" ad. But I have no doubt at all that Reid thought they could pull it off, and score big if they nailed Limbaugh. But in his self-importance, he ended up hoist on his own petard.

Dingy Harry should have remembered the old saying: If you shoot at the king, you'd better kill the king.

Rush is the BEST

Proud to have been a "Mind Numbed Robot" of Rush's since the first Gulf War. As I first listened to him I thought.....HE THINKS LIKE ME! At that point I found out I wasn't alone in my political views. Since then I have become involved in political matters and take a more confident outlook of life in the United States of America.....Thanks Rush. 

The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program...........Ronald Reagan

 

That is what liberals don't

That is what liberals don't understand. They think Rush tells people what to think. The truth is what you said...people say "Holy Cow, this guy is saying what I think!" and another Rush fan is created.

You are not alone.

As I first listened to him I thought.....HE THINKS LIKE ME! At that point I found out I wasn't alone in my political views. 

Buford:  Amen.  Welcome to a VERY large club.  The left thinks we are all like the robots in those rooms in "I Robot" or "Star Wars: Episode II- Attack of the Clones" with row upon row of empty vacant minds and staring eyes; just existing until we get our orders.  We all know better.

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Murtha is a what?

He says right there that Jesse MacBeth isn't the only phony soldier
he's talking about...Jack Murtha? I didn't know he lied about his
service.
mgerardn

Really?.. You may want to ask a few "REAL" Marines. He's a phoney in SO many ways!

And Jer, Nobody wanted Rush fired?.. LOL! RIGHT!

A demand for his "firing"

A demand for his "firing" over this incident would be sheer absurdity.  Rush would have to commit and be convicted of a serious felony before anyone need worry about his job security.  If there is any individual who is genuinely an "untouchable" in the media, it is Limbaugh.

Now, are there liberals who wish he were not on the air?  I'm sure there are.  Are there conservatives who wish Olbermann were back at ESPN doing only sports commentary?  No doubt.  But I wouldn't want to see any type of ouster campaign mounted against either for mere passionate espousal of political views.  However, I do wish both sides would tone down the rhetoric.

And I do think the issue of the use of the Armed Forces Radio network for partisan political purposes is an appropriate topic for debate. 

Jer

You're missing the point,

You're missing the point, Jer.  A demand for Limbaugh's "firing" would be met with laughter.  Shakedown Sharpton was able to get Imus because the dirty little secret is that Imus' ratings were weak.  He had to seize on the sub-classifications of his ratings to make himself look better.  Limbaugh's ratings are solid and growing...he makes the affiliates and advertisers a lot of money.  He can't be replaced. 

As for Keith Olbermann, I grew up in L.A. where he was a fixture on the local sports scene for about a decade.  He was good at commenting on sports.  He's rubbish at politics.  He's in over his head doing both, and now he's not even good at doing sports anymore.  I couldn't care less if Olbermann stays on the air.  It's NBC's problem if they want to continue riding a sinking ship.

The soldiers want to hear Limbaugh.  Currently they get one hour on Armed Forces Radio...and that's because they overwhelmingly asked for it.  They want all three.  Instead, they get 24 hours of NPR shoved down their throats...and if that isn't partisan politics, I don't know what is. 

The soldiers want to hear


The soldiers want to hear Limbaugh. Currently they get one hour on
Armed Forces Radio...and that's because they overwhelmingly asked for
it. They want all three. -
fitzfong

Right, fitz! I nearly died laughing when I heard Wes Clark talking about protecting our soldiers from Rush because they "can't take care of" themselves like Senator Harkin, who is a "big boy." (are we sending "little boys" to war now???)

That's why I said WE wouldn't need to do anything to keep them from pulling Rush off AFRTS; the soldiers wouldn't stand for it.

BTW, the auction is up to $65,000 now. How does it feel, Harry?

mb

That is hillarious....and great news!  Thx. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

fitz, maybe it was

fitz, maybe it was inadequately stated, but, in fact, that was precisely my point...and the very reason I put Limbaugh in the "untouchable" catgegory.  Liberals may see "red", but Rush means "green".

I think you're a little too tough on KO.  But, having only seen a few snippets of his show, I'm not really in a position to make a fair assessment of his abilities as a political commentator.  I have, however, listened to recorded audios of several of his closing memos which were well done. 

Finally, how about if the soldiers who want to hear Rush have tapes sent to them.  Or listen to podcasts.  It just seems somewhat bizarre for me, a Democrat, to financially enable a conservative spokesman in lecturing a United States military audience about how I allegedly hate them and hate America.  Look, it's still an open question with me, and I'm certainly cognizant of the NPR counterargument.  But, there is at least a degree of balance on NPR that doesn't exist with Limbaugh.  What if Garofelo had a following with the female soldiers in Iraq [stop laughing, I know its a ludicrous concept, but bear with me]; would it be okay with you to have her spew out her anti-Bush bile over Armed Forces Radio programming that you're paying for?  I just think it would be better to leave the politics out of it entirely.

Jer

Jer

It just seems somewhat bizarre for me, a Democrat, to financially enable a conservative spokesman in lecturing a United States military audience about how I allegedly hate them and hate America.  

If this bugs you...think about how we conservatives feel about our tax dollars supporting all of the liberal views on NPR and PBS.

Sauce for the goose, yes? 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

I know, Blonde, and I did

I know, Blonde, and I did make a brief reference to that fact in the last paragraph. The comparison is appropriate but not quite symmetrical, at least in my opinion.  NPR and PBS don't engage in virtual nonstop conservative bashing.

Jer

Jer

is that what Rush does?  Telling the truth and playing the actual quotes is not bashing.  Or is Murtha really pro-serviceman?

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

Quite Right, Jer

But Rush isn't taxpayer funded, now, is he?

Therein lies the critical difference.

What do you have to say about that?

 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

jer

I know its a ludicrous concept

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

how jer

would you have Armed Services Radio broadcasting anti-Armed Services propaganda?  Dispute the ideas fine, but do not use an ad-hominem

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

botg...what ad hominem are

botg...what ad hominem are you referring to?

Jer

Rush

shouldn't be aired why?  Jer doesn't like Rush, Rush is pro-military and therefore very appropos for military radio.  But you attack the man.

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

while you're at it jer

maybe the AP, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NYT, LAT should not be presented to the troops using my money?

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

No, botg, I'm not attacking

No, botg, I'm not attacking the man, I'm attacking some of the things he says.

Jer

and i disagree with the MSM

and i disagree with the MSM bias and we are at a website that reveals those biases.  Meanwhile i don't believe you have been able to show that what is broadcast on the network to the troops (which they want) has any falsehoods.  I have never heard Rush say "Jer thinks....." now if Jer supports Murtha who HAS said... then indeed (by his deeds) Jer supports undermining the troops

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

botg, I believe Rush paints

botg, I believe Rush paints with too broad of a brush with his generalizations about Democrats who disagree with this administration's conduct of the war in Iraq.  That to me calls into question the propriety of it being the subject matter of Armed Forces Radio programming.

But, I said it's still an open question with me, and I understand the opposing views.  However, I do object to the type of rhetoric that Rush occasionally employs.  It goes beyond reasonable and responsible advocacy. 

Jer 

jer

and as i said CBS NBC ABC AP NYT LAT et al paint with too bias a brush; Rush and talk radio balance the MSM would you ban the MSM also?  At least Rush supports their mission, the Times does not.  So which is more appropriate? 

Anyhoo, goodnight

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho