Is Whoopi Goldberg becoming the Rosie O’Donnell type bully? It appeared that way on the October 3 edition of “The View.” A discussion about Hillary Clinton’s $5,000 a baby entitlement plan quickly descended into a heated exchange between Elisabeth Hasselbeck and Whoopi Goldberg about abortion.
When Hasselbeck noted that $5,000 a baby could lead to fewer abortions in the world, Whoopi told Hasselbeck to “back off” because Hasselbeck has never “been in a position” where she “had to make that decision.”
Whoopi, who claimed to march in a NARAL rally with Katie Couric, also added Elisabeth should have “a little bit of reverence” to the women who had abortions and then spread propaganda about women “found bleeding dead with hangers in their bodies.”
Full transcript below the jump. Watch the video over at Ian Schwartz's blog.
HASSELBECK: I was very- at heart, I'm very against this policy because I believe it’s more of a gift.
BEHAR: Are you against Social Security, too?
HASSELBECK: No. Against this policy, but then I realized that there is a benefit because I feel like this could maybe cause less abortions in the world. You know, people would keep having kids instead.
GOLDBERG: Elisabeth, Elisabeth, can I ask you one question–can I ask you a question? I just have to ask you this question since you opened this door.
HASSELBECK: Sure
GOLDBERG: Have you ever been in a position to have to make that decision?
HASSELBECK: Never, never.
GOLDBERG: Okay, then back off a little bit. Back off a little bit. Very few people want to have abortions.
HASSELBECK: I'm sure they don't.
GOLDBERG: See, I was listening.
HASSELBECK: I was just affirming what you said.
GOLDBERG: Most people do not want to have abortions. Most women do not have them with some sort of party going on. It is the hardest decision that a woman ever- wait- ever has to make. So, when you talk about it, a little bit of reverence to the women out there who have had to make this horrible decision. And one of the reasons that, that we have had to make this decision is because so many women were found bleeding, dead, with hangers in their bodies because they were doing it themselves. The idea of this was to make it safe and clean. That was the reason the law came into effect. That was why it was done.
Editor at Large
Comments Policy
Oh, you mean like the
October 3, 2007 - 16:15 ET by HypocriteHaterOh, you mean like the reverence the women who wore this T-shirt had for abortion?
And who the hell does Whoopie think she is telling Elizabeth to "back off"? The show is called "THE VIEW"! Not "Whoopie's View" or "The Liberal View Only, Please". I'm getting so sick of this supression of conservative viewpoints. Come on Whoopie, let's have a debate about abortion! What's the matter, are you afraid someone might actually be persuaded from being pro-abortion to pro-life?
Any number of banners and
October 3, 2007 - 16:33 ET by drillanwrAny number of banners and signs carried at pro-abortion rallies in D.C. can be completely offensive and irreverent ... But some can be absolutely maniacal ... “Barbara [Bush] Made the Wrong Choice”
So while I'm sure Whoopi feels (and it's all about feelings with liberals) she was giving "pro-choice" women a warm and reaffirming hug by slapping Elizabeth around, a lot of women see abortion as after-the-fact birth control.
And many who insist on showing up at these rallies seem to have a warped sense oc other people's choices, Whoopi ... When women who have had an abortion show up with their "I regret having my abortion" signs they are met with “Born-Again Bigots” and “You regret your abortion? That’s your fault! Make your man wear a condom!”
http://www.cwfa.org/articles/5582/CWA/life/index.htm
Note to pro-abortionists ... The condom thing ... Practice what you preach.
BTW -
I happen to agree with Elizabeth. You WOULD see women using pregnancies as cash cows, of a sort. However, isn't the $5, 000 supposed to be in the form of a savings bond and not a check?
Maybe the proud mom should
October 3, 2007 - 16:56 ET by vrwc13Maybe the proud mom should have had a picture added to her shirt.
v
"The best option planned parenthood has to offer a woman in crisis is the death of her child".
Whoopi's Abortions
October 4, 2007 - 08:15 ET by kiwikitShe's said that she's had SEVEN abortions so I don't think she's capable of speaking out on the subject. Apparently, like all Democrats, she has no shame and so feels no regret for the seven children she's killed. Do we want our children watching this woman? I don't think so! Not a worthy role model particularly for girls in her race who already are getting pregnant so SOMEONE will care for them!
}}---> Whoopi's reprobate mind
October 4, 2007 - 08:24 ET by Cool ArrowShe no longer (if ever) has a sense of right and wrong.
That which impedes access to her immediate pleasure centers is unacceptable to her.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Perish the Thought
October 4, 2007 - 09:37 ET by WoodyMThat means that someone, well, that someone, you know, had to do it with Whoppie at least seven times. Must have been someone who's blind and deaf.
Another Bogus Left-Wing tactic
October 3, 2007 - 16:19 ET by mattm"Have you ever been in that situation?" Blah balh blah
First off, the proper retort to that rationale is "anyone who has ever been a fetus has a right to talk about abortion."
Secondly, if that's your standard, what about the many women who have had abortions and later regretted it so much that they became leaders in the pro-life movement?
The thing that really struck a nerve with Whoopi-Do is the exposed hypocrisy of her Party (and her furher Frau Clintler) which wants to pay $2500 a piece to kill babies, and give $5000 to each one that makes it out of the delivery room.
The Left gets lamer and lamer every minute.... (or is it more lame?)
First off, the proper
October 3, 2007 - 16:35 ET by drillanwrFirst off, the proper retort to that rationale is "anyone who has ever been a fetus has a right to talk about abortion."
Good one!
See my above post.
Sadly...
October 3, 2007 - 17:02 ET by vrwc13Anyone who has been a victim of abortion cannot speak for themselves.
v
"The best option planned parenthood has to offer a woman in crisis is the death of her child".
Capital punishment
October 3, 2007 - 17:22 ET by NortoBeliever
Abortion is capital punishment without a trial and no chance of appeal.
First off, the proper
October 3, 2007 - 17:17 ET by TruthMattersFirst off, the proper retort to that rationale is "anyone who has ever been a fetus has a right to talk about abortion."
Excellent!
Has whoopi ever been a
October 3, 2007 - 18:39 ET by TruthMongerHas whoopi ever been a Christian?
THEN BACK OFF BABY!
Your not in a position to judge our anti-murder values:)
If Susan B. Anthony were
October 3, 2007 - 16:27 ET by SMGalbraithIf Susan B. Anthony were alive today she'd put a bullet in her head.
And hire someone to put a couple more in just in case.
These people are just......words escape me...
SMG
Note the lack of intellectual diversity on this TV show...
October 3, 2007 - 16:27 ET by sarcasmoI think this says it all, the "conservative" is of course pro Social Security despite the fiscal facts. I guess that's almost-forgiveable, considering the failed program's mysterious "third rail" fact-defying popularity. Then, to top it off, the "conservative" is also for Hillary's huge new giveaway (which will have 0 effect on abortion-rates, IMO) despite a sea of red ink & the threat of looming inflation from current spending levels.
Such intellectual diversity! We see here a typical media-induced "choice" between pro-big-government views and pro-big-government views! TV producers are so dimwitted with their hires sometimes...
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
I am glad Hasselbeck is on
October 3, 2007 - 16:35 ET by mrsimeleI am glad Hasselbeck is on the view. Her thoughtless and illogical views of the World sum up the G.O.P. and neo-conservatives in a "Nutshell". This actually helps the Democratic party because most voters do not take such "extreme" views as Hasselbeck and her ilk.
Funny how the same people that are opposed to abortion could care less if another American soldier gets blown up in Iraq. Funny how the same people that are opposed to abortion would rather give the wealthy a tax write-off than help a few, needy children with healthcare.
No wonder Clinton is doing so well :-)
talking points anyone?
October 3, 2007 - 16:42 ET by american-americanFunny how the same people that are opposed to abortion could care less if another American soldier gets blown up in Iraq. Typical response. Oh, wait a minute, you didn't say, "Who will support all of those unwanted children." You are off your game, go back to the handbook and read the responses you are supposed to give to this discussion.
a - a
October 3, 2007 - 16:53 ET by drillanwrAh, I think when you officially become a lefty/lib you're given a box of cards ... like Richard Simmons "Deal A Meal" ... Deal A Lame Retort
One more time for lefties/libs who were playing with themselves during the last explanation.
Soldiers are adults (you know, grown ups who weren't aborted and are able to make decisions all by themselves) who volunteer ... See: last set of ( )s ... and know completely and perfectly well what they have signed up for, and the risk (possibly sacrificing their lives that weren't aborted) ...
But your concern for the troops brings a tear to my eye ...
They also use the death
October 3, 2007 - 17:28 ET by USA4freedomThey also use the death sentence in the same pattern. The
people who oppose abortion are the ones that support the death sentence..
Just one small difference, the unborn are innocent of
anything except being an inconvenience.
Where the death row inmate probably has had about 10 chances
in appeal to live. That is after killing (more often then not) mutable people.
If babies had only that many appeals..
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
you are preaching to the
October 3, 2007 - 18:32 ET by TruthMongeryou are preaching to the "already intelligent" I'm afraid:(
Conservatives see
October 3, 2007 - 19:03 ET by drillanwrConservatives see every new life as new hope.
Liberals see every new life as a strain on society and the state ...
(Jim Quinn - conservative radio talk host Pittsburgh, Pa. ... ex-lib)
clintoon is only doing well
October 3, 2007 - 16:43 ET by charlietexasclintoon is only doing well in the minds of the demo-rats. loser
Funny, we couldn't care any
October 3, 2007 - 16:46 ET by Chris NormanFunny, we couldn't care any less about your drivel. Time for a troll shift change.
She won't answer, Chris.
October 3, 2007 - 17:06 ET by motherbeltShe won't answer, Chris. She is the personification of the Drive-by Media. She pulls up, lobs a piece of idiocy onto the sidewalk, and then takes off. Then she goes and brags to her friends about how she set all those "right-wingers" straight.
Pathetic.
I think we should all ignore her, since she has no intention of participating in a discussion.
mb, I know. I know. I
October 3, 2007 - 17:14 ET by Chris Normanmb,
I know. I know. I apologize. However, sometimes, I just can't bear thinking, maybe, to these foolish trolls, our lack of response is evidence that we don't have an answer to their typed garbage - that they'll go away thinking they scored some points. While I won't get baited into an exchange, I want them to know that what they type is inane trash.
" No wonder Clinton is
October 3, 2007 - 16:44 ET by ckc1227"
No wonder Clinton is doing so well :-)"
Yeah, almost half of American voters can't stand her, and say they would never vote for her. Yep, she's doing swell.
"
Funny how the same people that are opposed to abortion could care less if another American soldier gets blown up in Iraq.'
Funny how libs like you are so clueless that you equate the voluntary choices of adult soldiers to the slaughter of innocent babies without their input on the issue. It's also interesting how libs like yourself will argue that we need to do something about global warming, even if the scientists are wrong about the cause, but never use the same argument to defend unborn children, even though Planned Parenthood might be wrong about when life begins.
Actually, it's not funny at all. It's pretty sad.
mrsimele, you are an idiot...
October 3, 2007 - 17:08 ET by vrwc13Funny how the same people that are opposed to abortion could care less if another American soldier gets blown up in Iraq.
Comparing this to this? Idiot.
v
"The best option planned parenthood has to offer a woman in crisis is the death of her child".
nod and wave to the happy people
October 3, 2007 - 18:34 ET by TruthMongerwe sure don't care about dead soldiers here that is for sure
mr simele or mrs imele as
October 3, 2007 - 18:44 ET by vrwc13mr simele or mrs imele as it may be, is an idiot - simple and plain...
with apology to Bassndude... Save a Soldier, club a liberal!!
v
My personal awakening to the sadness that is abortion came when I answered the question, "Who were you the day before you were born?" My answer forever changed me. -Just Jason
No, you are the "idiot" for
October 4, 2007 - 00:13 ET by mrsimeleNo, you are the "idiot" for thinking a mass of cells, what doctors refer to as a fetus, somehow takes "priority" over the WOMAN carrying that baby.
Mrs Imele - You were once that "mass of cells" too.
October 4, 2007 - 00:16 ET by Free StinkerMrs Imele - You were once that "mass of cells" too.
And &%$#@! your support of abortion. If my birth mother had idiots like you for advice, she wouldn;t have put me up for adoption. I'd be dead!
FS-
October 4, 2007 - 00:22 ET by drillanwrDon't forget the line of thinking here ...
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
One man's (woman's) fetus is another man's (woman's) mass of stem cells that damn Bush won't allow research funding on ...
drill
October 4, 2007 - 00:25 ET by Free StinkerOh yes. How could I have forgotten? ;-)
Did you ever see the cartoon by Wayne Staykal? A doctor is showing a woman an ultrasound and she exclaims: "That's a baby! Were's the inviable mass of tissue I keep hearing about?!"
we still are a mass of
October 4, 2007 - 17:02 ET by TruthMongerwe still are a mass of cells people
and murdering a human mass of cells is illegal - in this country anyway
A service of the new NB respect police
mrsimile, I was adopted, BTW.
October 4, 2007 - 00:27 ET by Dave RAnd that was in 1964. Had abortion-on-demand been the law-of-the-land at that time, I wouldn't even be here.
(Of course, there are probably a lot of people around here that would think that was awesome, but I digress).
Let's face it, liberals, who are irresponsible literally to the point of insanity, only support abortion for one reason, and one reason only:
Their very own selfishness.
Libs, by and large, refuse to take responsibility for their own actions. They want to go out and have a good time, but they do not wish to deal with the consequences of that little romp. If they cannot blame it on someone else (their usual MO), then they will take out the inconvenient reality of their irresponsibility. In many cases, that means that unborn children, who have done nothing to anyone, die.
All I know of my natural mother is that she was a music major at Georgia State University.
Try going through life dealing with that.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Dave-
October 4, 2007 - 00:41 ET by drillanwrYour bio-mother was a very brave young woman.
Best movie quote (bear with me) "Saving Private Ryan" ...
"Earn this ..."
drill,
October 4, 2007 - 00:45 ET by Dave RThanks.
I found out when I was barely six years old. Way too young for that bombshell to be dropped in my lap. It has seriously screwed with me a bit over the years. Wish I had never found out, actually.
Hard to explain unless you've been there.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Dave - I sent you a PM.
October 4, 2007 - 00:56 ET by Free StinkerDave - I sent you a PM.
Mass of cells?
October 4, 2007 - 00:49 ET by Sergeant ROCKFeel free to present the statistics that show abortion is used to 'save' the mother in the majority of the cases used? How 'bout half then? Okay, how 'bout a third?
My money's on less than 3%.. strawman.
Indoctrinate-U
Our Education. Their Politics.
Sarge,
October 4, 2007 - 00:56 ET by Dave RIt's much easier to kill an unborn child when you have managed to de-humanize it.
Hence the term "unviable cell mass."
It'a all in the terminology, ya know.
Joseph Mengele would be proud-as would Goebbels, Adolf and the rest.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
I am an adult fetus
October 4, 2007 - 17:04 ET by TruthMongerI am an adult fetus - proud of it:)
A service of the new NB respect police
Dave R
October 5, 2007 - 08:59 ET by Sergeant ROCKYou are correct. But, what confounds me is when you have these cases where a pregnant mother that loses her child..er.. I mean: mass of cells... by an act of violence, the perp faces additional charges for the death of that child.. er.. I mean: mass of cells. Shouldn't the perp be charged with practicing medicine without a license? Sounds like a case of having it both ways.
Indoctrinate-U
Our Education. Their Politics.
Great story ... My
October 4, 2007 - 01:12 ET by drillanwrGreat story ... My immigrant Grandparents were married in 1921. Back then the doctor came to your house and you had the babies at home.
My Grandparents' first born was giving my grandmother such a hard time that the doctor came down stairs and told my gruff Hungarian Grandfather he would have to choose between the baby or his wife. My Grandfather, using one of his most favorite and colorful "American" words told the doctor, "Both ... or the undertaker will be carrying your f***ing a** out with them ..." (Used that word a lot when watching boxing on b/w TV)
Poor doctor had to come back to the house six more times to deliver babies with my Grandpap puffing Camel cigarette smoke in his direction (like some angry dragon) on his way up the stairs.
But the real irony here was that as a young girl in Hungary, my Grandmother would accompany her mother, who was one of the local mid-wives, to homes to help the doctor there deliver babies. She was "grooming" her to become a mid-wife. One case involved a mother who was having terrible trouble. As my Grandmother described it, the baby was just too big, and the mother too small. After a very long struggle, and C-sections NOT common or routine in WWI Hungary, the doctor performed what we today call late-term abortion ... or both would have been lost. Remember, my Grandmother was not but a girl. She stood there and watched in horror.
statistics that show abortion is used to 'save' the mother...
October 4, 2007 - 11:42 ET by vrwc13...FACTS...
I would also expect that because of the "Oath" and just plain compassion, that even in cases of "Risk to maternal health" that any doctor would still try to save the live of the "child" if possible.
v
2.8%
October 5, 2007 - 09:05 ET by Sergeant ROCKSo, looks like I had a good guess. However, I would bet that 2.8% is wildly exaggerated. Even so, is 2.8% enough to justify the other 97.2%??
Indoctrinate-U
Our Education. Their Politics.
O.K. mrsimle I will make
October 4, 2007 - 09:41 ET by vrwc13O.K. mrsimle I will make this real simple and plain, just for you:
v
"The best option planned parenthood has to offer a woman in crisis is the death of her child".
mrsimele...
October 5, 2007 - 08:53 ET by vrwc13...hello...you out there? No response to "mass of cells" rebuke?
hmm...thought so. I will be praying for you today.
Proverbs 2
Moral Benefits of Wisdom
1 My son, if you accept my words
and store up my commands within you, 2 turning your ear to wisdom
and applying your heart to understanding, 3 and if you call out for insight
and cry aloud for understanding, 4 and if you look for it as for silver
and search for it as for hidden treasure, 5 then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God.
Do you think that "most
October 3, 2007 - 16:59 ET by motherbeltDo you think that "most voters" agree that it's fine to deliver most of a baby, then stick a suction hose into its skull and suction out its brain?
If abortion is no big deal, then why do most pro-aborts say it's the hardest decision a woman has to make? And just because it's the hardest decision, why does everyone have to accept that she made the right one? Lots of decisions are hard.
Also, if abortion is not big deal, why do politicians pledge to make it "rare"? There are 3700 abortions every day in the US. What number should we get it down to, to have it considered "rare"?
Re the soldiers: we have a volunteer army. Which fetuses volunteered to be aborted?
Nice..
October 3, 2007 - 19:23 ET by BigBOn the one hand, we have an ADULT joining the military to perhaps fight and die for this country and on the other, we have a child getting vacuumed out of the womb. You are an idiot and you are morally blind.
Help a few 'needy children'?? Bush is all for the program...he just doesn't think that WE need to pay for your kid's HEALTH INSURANCE if you make $83,000 a year...moron. Try and figure out the difference between Health Care and Insurance.
And you are exactly right about one thing...the View does help with the Democrats because it panders to blithering, uninformed, shortbus, zipperheads just like you.
Now, this might sting just a little bit.....
Words fail me. You're
October 3, 2007 - 21:01 ET by bretzysdudeWords fail me. You're pathetic.
It's not funny at all.
October 3, 2007 - 21:17 ET by c5thenYou're false statistics are an attempt to provoke anger and/or show a complete denial of reality.
The same people who oppose abortion are the very same people who support the troops and would rather they not have to be deployed, yet understand that necessity sometimes dictates that they must be.
The same people who oppose abortion because it is the murder of an innocent child would rather give all tax payers a tax cut so that they can use more of their own money to give to local charities and help their needy neighbors. Statistics show that people from "red" states give on average 2x more to charities than people from "blue" states.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Fred08.com
c5then
October 3, 2007 - 21:35 ET bythis is at least the 5th 'hit and run troll post' by mrsimele; not worth getting riled about. Actually we are merely waiting on Matt reviewing this ones track record and banning said troll
Yes, you are even more annoying than Blonde. the EYE
botg,
October 3, 2007 - 22:00 ET by Dave RThis brain-damaged troll also misrepresented herself in her bio. Grounds enough for getting the hook, if you ask me.
Long past time to burn her bridge.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Dave
October 3, 2007 - 22:15 ET byMatt does not see all, but Matt does tend to pull the trigger on trolls much quicker than Noel, it's only a matter of time. Then the troll will whine.
Yes, you are even more annoying than Blonde. the EYE
botg, that is why I think of Matthew as the trollinator.
October 3, 2007 - 22:18 ET by Dave RLOL-sorry.
Lame, that was. And I ain't talkin' cherries, either.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Some of us work you idiot.
October 4, 2007 - 00:16 ET by mrsimeleSome of us work you idiot. We check Newsbusters twice a day. We do not lurk on the message board every other minute like losers with no life. Get a grip.
Really?
October 4, 2007 - 00:24 ET by UnsaneYou mean Leftists actually work, instead of sitting around whining for the Nanny State to come intervene and coddle their worries away???
Coulda fooled me.
Surprise,some of us Rightists also work. Some of us are just off on weekdays. And some of us are just highly verbose.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
mrsimile, you are a left-wing nut job with a mental disorder.
October 3, 2007 - 22:02 ET by Dave RThis actually helps the Democratic party because most voters do not take such "extreme" views as Hasselbeck and her ilk.
So, preserving the innocent human life of an unborn child is now considered "extreme" by Marxist/Leninist mental patients such as yourself. How nice.
Funny how the same people that are opposed to abortion would rather
give the wealthy a tax write-off than help a few, needy children with
healthcare.
If you want to pay higher taxes so that parents making $82,000/yr can relieve themselves of the responsibility of paying their children's healthcare bill, then write your check to the IRS today.
This was nothing more than a set-up by the Marxist/Leninist left, as Peloser & Co. knew full well that it was going to be hit with the veto pen.
BTW-I am not wealthy be any stretch of the imagination. You are doing nothing more than repeating the Marxist/Leninist lie that the tax cuts were only for the rich, as I benefitted from them, as did you. Yet, you are probably too stupid to know it.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Baba Wawa is scared of
October 3, 2007 - 23:02 ET by L.N. SmitheeElisabeth Hasselbeck is on The View for one reason, and one only: Of all the conservative women who might agree to be the token on the panel, she's the easiest one of all to dismiss.
Barbara Walters, coward that she is, wouldn't dare have an articulate conservative commentator like, for example, Kellyanne Conway, Star Parker, or Laura Ingraham (that is, #1 New York Times bestselling author Laura Ingraham) sit beside her. They are too learned and self-assured to be drowned out by the likes of two-bit comedian Joy Behar, Washed-up Whoopi, or Baba Wawa herself. To stack the deck for her side, she counterbalanced a Demo-left-antiwar-proabortion panel with someone whose previous claim to fame is Survivor.
However, in Hasselbeck's defense: Lightweight that she is, the one time she stood up for herself and wasn't cowed into submission by Rosie the Blitherer, it was too much for O'Donnell to take -- she ran off with her curled tail between her legs and never returned. That's what Walters is afraid of: a conservative continually besting the leftie ladies on their own turf.
"Well, I've got nothing against the press...they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true..." -- Joe Jackson, "Sunday Papers"
Funny
October 4, 2007 - 00:29 ET by UnsaneFunny how mrsimele thinks freedom is his for the asking on a silver platter.
Funny how mrsimele believes he has the unalienable right to steal from others for daring to make more money than him.
Funny how mrsimele thinks that because other people decide to have children, that I MUST pay for their kids. What's next, mrsimele? Do I next get to pay for YOUR groceries?
Funny how he loves Clinton so much. But then, that isn't so funny. The both of them feel they have the God-ordained right to help themselves to as much of other people's money as possible.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Unsane,
October 4, 2007 - 23:48 ET by Dave RWhat's next, mrsimele? Do I next get to pay for YOUR groceries?
You might be doing that already.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
I also find it funny that
October 4, 2007 - 01:12 ET by RainsfordI also find it funny that the same people who support abortion (the murder of unborn children) are the same who oppose the death sentance (the murder of someone who is a danger to society, has killed, and will probablly kill again). Makes perfect sense to me.
mrsimele, your right. And I
October 4, 2007 - 10:30 ET by bassndudemrsimele, your right. And I agree with you on this one thing, not subject, but this one example. Liberals should not procreate. I cannot help but think that Goldburg should never have kids. Never! And now I am thinking you shouldent either. And if you ever did, they should be taken away from you and given to me. Cause, "I aint stoopid."
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
"GOLDBERG: Have you ever
October 3, 2007 - 16:36 ET by ckc1227"GOLDBERG: Have you ever been in a position to have to make that decision?"
I have never been in a position where I had to decide between raping a woman, and not raping her. I guess I should "back off" from those who have that chose to go through with it.
Furthermore, Elisabeth was most likely never put in that position because she made sure she never would be put in that position.
Now, about this $5,000 baby thing. Since they brought up social security, how about this: Instead of using $5,000 to set up a college fund, how about using the $5,000 to set up a retirement fund instead? That money invested over 65 years would end up being 1-2 million dollars at retirement age, or more. That would mean we could eliminate the social security scam altogether.
OK!! Let's apply that to
October 3, 2007 - 17:06 ET by motherbeltOK!! Let's apply that to "The View"!! None of them are allowed to comment or make a judgment on anything they haven't personally experienced.
Well, that puts an end to THAT show!
Have they ever been POTUS
October 4, 2007 - 17:06 ET by TruthMongerHave they ever been POTUS - then STFU about GWB:)?
How's that? Too disrespectful I think...
A service of the new NB respect police
I know two women who have had abortions
October 3, 2007 - 16:38 ET by american-americanGOLDBERG: Most people do not want to have abortions. Most women do not have them with some sort of party going on. It is the hardest decision that a woman ever- wait- ever has to make.
The two that I know that have had them, were very willing, one of them had several before she turned 21, she was my sister's best friend's sister. Everybody talked about how much of a tramp she was. The other, she was in her 30's and went for her third. I took her to the clinic, (it was a turning point for me). She was in the middle of a divorce, and had gotten pregnant. She told me that her husband raped her and she got pregnant and couldn't bear to have the child. At the clinic, she asked me to accompany her into the procedure because she was afraid. I did, and I will never in my life forget how horrifying that moment was.(the suction hose method) I cried for a long time when I got home. It was a sick feeling in my gut I couldn't get rid of. Before that, I always thought it was a choice to be made by that person. After seeing how disgusting it is, how inhumane, my position changed. Her husband found out about it somemehow. Turned out, he had a vascectomy 10 years prior, it wasn't his. (He was a rich older man, she was a sexy young woman), There was no rape, and she admitted it was her third abortion in the court hearing for the divorce. Needless to say, I have not spoken to her since.
It is nothing but a form of birth control for alot of women, and they pretend that it is a sad day for them, then go do it again when they get knocked up again. Character flaw. period.
So the chickenhawk rhetoric is being extended to abortion now?
October 3, 2007 - 16:39 ET by QueasyYou can't comment on it unless you've been in the situation? Yeesh, nice game that the left has going where they set the rules so only they can comment on subjects.
Experience Necessary Before Opinion?
October 3, 2007 - 23:54 ET by L.N. SmitheeYou can't comment on it unless you've been in the situation? Yeesh, nice game that the left has going where they set the rules so only they can comment on subjects.
Meanwhile, leading the pack for the Democratic Presidential Nomination are Hillary Clinton (no military service) and Barack Obama (no military service). Democrats call Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney "draft dodgers" but they elected Bill Clinton Commander-in-Chief.
How dare I say Clinton's a draft-dodger? Here's how: Slick Willie sought a deferment by deceiving a University of Arkansas ROTC instructor into thinking he wanted to serve as an officer, when in truth, as he wrote the instructor later, he "loath[ed] the military," and had deceived him.
Who said so? The ROTC instructor -- disgusted that Clinton was running for President -- released Clinton's letter.
"Well, I've got nothing against the press...they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true..." -- Joe Jackson, "Sunday Papers"
BS Whoopi...
October 3, 2007 - 16:41 ET by vrwc13GOLDBERG: Okay, then back off a little bit. Back off a little bit. Very few people want to have abortions.
...FACTS...
v
Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore
abortions
October 3, 2007 - 16:41 ET by charlietexasMost women use abortion for a birth control.
so we are supposed to look up to these women as brave?? I dont think so.
Whooperganda from the Soviet View
October 3, 2007 - 16:41 ET by Lame CherrySure Whoopie, 6 million dead babies were all from women who "didn't want to have an aborticide procedure". How utterly ignorant is that!
I know through friends or as school friends a number of women who had aborticide. One had one before "it was legal". There were no coat hangers but the hot little number never was able to have kids, because of it.
Two girls in school had I believe 6 aborticides between them in sexing it up non stop.
Another is the rather plump step daughter of a now divorced friend. Hubby was living his second teenage years and abandoned the kid who decided being wanted was in gang bangs being used by black ghetto trash who were daddy to a host of knocked up Nellies.
Do not even try and go there Whooper with your propaganda as MOST of the women who are butchering or scalding babies in the womb did it to cover up being tramps. The majority of them are not raped in any form........it is all about getting rid of a problem so the fornication can continue.
The one thing that is missing in this is if Liz Hasselbeck had a brain she would have pointed out that she is was never in that position, because she is intelligent, not a tramp, has morals and wasn't out getting doped up or drunk so they were date raped by the jerk stalker they were flirting with.
Aborticides occur not from being forced into anything or any position. Women are doing it because they are getting rid of a life which they don't want to deal with.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
Imagine the look on Behar's
October 3, 2007 - 16:43 ET by Free ThinkerImagine the look on Behar's face if she had asked me if I was against social security and I answered absolutley I was. I wish someone on this show had a brain and a lack of patience to deal with idiots like Behar who speak without thinking. This $5000 a child nonsense is what gives me hope that Hillary will never be elected.
FT,In all fairness to
October 3, 2007 - 17:33 ET by Chris NormanFT,
In all fairness to Ms. Behar, she doesn't have the capability to think. All she has is a file of liberal slogans in her head that she reaches into.
IMO, Joy Behar should have a
October 3, 2007 - 16:57 ET by motherbeltIMO, Joy Behar should have a set of cue cards to read from, and only be allowed to comment on certain topics....like who's going to win on Dancing With the Stars. She is in so far over her head on most issues that standing on the Empire State building wouldn't get her to daylight.
That's the problem above...
October 3, 2007 - 17:03 ET by sarcasmo"The View" simply does not dare to hire a Cathy Young type of fiscal conservative female. It's not like either Wendy McElroy or Tonie Nathan has other TV commitments, either, and various others could do the job but I'm forgetting their names.
BabaWawa, who may be a really nice lady, simply DOES NOT REALLY WANT intellectual diversity on her show, so she refuses to hire women who truly reflect it. Hopefully, the competition's watching this conversation very-closely...
JMR
PS Breaking News!!! Fox News has uncovered a brand new Ron Paul scandal! Apparently, a few fanatical Ron Paul supporters repeatedly "spammed" his campaign with the same dollar bill more than $5 million times!! Yeah, I might stop mocking Fox for that text-poll bias I busted someday -- but it won't be today! ;)
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
The Ron Paul juggernaut
October 3, 2007 - 17:17 ET by Chris NormanThe Ron Paul juggernaut steams forward, crushing all in it's path!
The media does not see it, but...
October 3, 2007 - 17:22 ET by sarcasmoI'd say Dr. Paul's campaign can do with $1 million what would cost any of the RINO-campaigns somewhere between $5 - $10 million. And like I said, the odds in general are bad Hillary-wise, but they're gettin' better Republican-wise, down to 6 to 1, "crushing" Romney. Sigh...A nice 500 Euro bet could have financed a Feb. trip to London at 100 to 1. The Ladbroke's bookies are glad to buy such bets back early at a discount, and on that kind of spread I'd be ahead even after the UK's horrid sin-taxes...
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
This thread may not be the
October 3, 2007 - 17:34 ET by Free ThinkerThis thread may not be the best place, but you are going to have to sell me on Ron Paul. I like what I hear from him on issues like immigration, taxes, limited government, and the constitution, but I saw him interviewed by O'Reilly and he was clueless on the war against terrorism we are currently involved in and will be for at least a generation. I got the feeling he just wanted to withdraw from it and hope it goes away. It was almost bizarre and I came away thinking he had not even thought about it.
Free... There's a really
October 3, 2007 - 17:40 ET by Clear thinkerFree...
There's a really good reason why you had that "feeling". Ron Paul has no business running this country. I personally feel it would be as bad as electing a "phony democrat" (my new term for dems).
Get Email updates from Fred http://socialnet.imwithfred.com/email_alert_july_26.html
Say, think Whoopi got a
October 3, 2007 - 16:57 ET by drillanwrSay, think Whoopi got a call from Rosie?
Rosie: Whoop! I'm sick of this. I expect more out of you! You get in there and smack down that blond Nazi chick the next chance you get!
If you were in my position ...
October 3, 2007 - 17:02 ET by KC MulvilleThe fact that you morally oppose abortion as an option doesn't mean you haven't been in position to make that decision. My wife and I have four children. We tried to be responsible about when to have children, and not add more to the family if we couldn't afford it, but a couple times, reality disrupted our plans. (I don't know about you, but Reality often does that to me.) There came a couple times when it suddenly became financially difficult (OK, disastrous) to have the baby. My wife and I are both devout Catholics, so we never considered any other course than to continue. But we were certainly in the position that Whoopi Goldberg refers to.
My point is that Whoopi's condescending lecture reveals how shallow she is, instead of making her look wiser. She misses the most important issue: abortion is a moral decision, not a financial gamble. Reality doesn't force you to have an abortion, so skip the pretense that if you were in that position, you'd think differently. My wife and I have been in that position, and our morality didn't change.
Abortion is a moral decision about what life is, not a financial decision about what you can afford or risk. If your opinion on abortion (or your morality in general) changes because of your finances, then you're too shallow to understand what morality is in the first place.
KC, God bless you and your
October 3, 2007 - 17:12 ET by motherbeltKC, God bless you and your wife (and I believe He will) for accepting all your children, and not taking the easy way out.
He already has...
October 3, 2007 - 18:32 ET by vrwc13KC, God bless you and your wife (and I believe He will)
Behold, children are a gift of the LORD, The fruit of the womb is a reward. Ps 127:3
v & mrs. v & our 6 little v's
Thanks
October 3, 2007 - 18:19 ET by KC MulvilleYeah - I can't look at any of them and imagine life without them. And I certainly agree with the comment below -- I have already been blessed.
KC -
October 3, 2007 - 17:40 ET by drillanwr"Planned" my two daughters ... 1985 and 1988 ... A few years after my second daughter I found out I was pregnant. I was supposed to be Maid (Matron) Of Honor in my younger sister's wedding that summer, which would have me late in my last trimester (and according to the two previous pregnancies) have me wearing a tent. I was a little upset because my sister and I are very close and I wanted to stand beside her ... but NOT in a tent. My beloved sister gave me one hell of a verbal slapping about my priorities ... saying I was not being myself (the older sister she admired and wanted to be like <blush>) ... BTW, don't misunderstand and think I even thought about abortion ... Anyhow, she brought me back from my selfish vanity just in time for me to spend the next 3+ months on my back completely ill from the pregnancy.
Upon a routine OB visit the doctor was horrified to find I had dropped a lot of weight. He did an ultra sound and found the baby had died and was in the process of miscarrying ... I was literally devastated and didn't believe him that the baby's heart wasn't beating ... I just didn't believe what I was seeing on the monitor. So, he called up the street to a lab, called my husband, and we were sent for another ultrasound ... which confirmed the first. My doctor said I could just go home and spontaneously miscarry, or I could go into the hospital in the morning for a D/C (all I could think was that's an abortion!) He looked my husband in the eye and said, "If she were my wife she would be in the hospital O/R tomorrow morning." I STILL didn't believe him. I just was terrified of them being mistaken.
As fate would have it, the girls had Open House at our Catholic School, and my husband and I ran into our priest in the hall way. He could tell something was wrong in my face, so he took us into the chapel. We told him what was going on. I said how we'd planned our two daughters and hadn't planned this one ... To which he shook his head and said, "You planned nothing. Only G-d plans life." Then I told him how terrified I was about what if the doctors are wrong and I had the procedure and was aborting a baby ...? To which he told me to trust the knowledge G-d had given the doctors who were taking care of me. He met us at the hospital the next morning and stayed with my husband while I was in surgery ...
I was supposed to be out-patient ... But ended up staying, as I "bled out" in surgery and my pressure dropped drastically. When the doctor came into recovery he told my husband and me that had we opted to go home and wait for a miscarriage I might have bled to death before I got to the hospital.
I guess what I'm saying is, wasn't an easy "choice" ... even knowing the baby was not alive.
I don't know why I shared all that, but thought I would because you did ...
Sending you a personal message about Chapter two ...
I am sure that was a hard
October 3, 2007 - 17:52 ET by american-americanI am sure that was a hard thing for you to go through.
I send my condolences to you, and I am glad you had the support of a loving husband and a caring clergyman to get you through it.
I miscarried between my two children also, but mine was not life threatening and I was able to try again immediately to have my second child. She was a perfect baby, a whopping 10 lbs 8 oz..
umm, <ouch!>
October 3, 2007 - 18:06 ET by drillanwrumm, <ouch!>
Talk about stereotypes!
October 3, 2007 - 18:19 ET by KC MulvilleHow can anyone read your story and then imagine that those who are pro-life 'just don't understand?' Pro-lifers understand, much more than the Whoopi Goldbergs of the world ever give them credit for.
You're in my prayers -- definitely.
KC, am-am
October 3, 2007 - 23:44 ET by drillanwrThanks. All's great.
I would have LOVED for Woopie to counter me the way she did E.H. ... Hitting her with my story might have shut her up ... for a few moments, at least ...
}}---> Whoopi's choice
October 3, 2007 - 23:55 ET by Cool ArrowJust the thought of Whoopi in a Ménage à Trois with the Pelosis has the effect of desensitizing the Left to any sort of snuff activity they may want to engage in.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Now THAT's birth control!
October 4, 2007 - 00:24 ET by drillanwrNow THAT's birth control!
Moral Bankruptcy
October 3, 2007 - 17:08 ET by exLibHere is the moral backruptcy of the left on full display.
Whoopie states: So, when you talk about it, a little bit of reverence to the women out there who have had to make this horrible decision.
A little bit of REVERENCE. We are supposed to Revere women who have had abortions? How about compassion and concern?
Especially after that women's magazine interviewed some women whose hearts are hard as nails and would actually go on record saying having an abortion was the best decision they could ever make. It allowed one women to have her career, all it cost was one baby sacrificed on the altar!
Finally, the logic behind the supposed "Reason" to have abortion legal would then require us to give junkies fresh needles, make ALL drugs legal and make sure ALL kids, no matter what the age get good drugs, because how many kids die every year due to OD's and not "doing drugs properly". Just dumb.
"It is the hardest decision
October 3, 2007 - 17:08 ET by TruthMatters"It is the hardest decision that a woman ever- wait- ever has to make."
Why is it a hard decision Whoopie? I'd like for you to expand on this.
Yeah, Whoopi, pleas explain
October 3, 2007 - 17:14 ET by motherbeltYeah, Whoopi, pleas explain why it's a "horrible decision." Because it destroys a... ? Nope, can't go there...because the woman has to decide not to have a ba...nope, not there either...because it means there is a life that will never...nope...
Oh, nevermind. (Emily Litella)
Seems to me whoopie made it
October 4, 2007 - 17:29 ET by 4arrowSeems to me whoopie made it clear that she wants to lick women.
To me this is an abomination.
It damn well should be!
October 5, 2007 - 00:53 ET by 4arrowIt damn well should be! \\\\\\\\\\\you are ending a human life after all party girl.
not funny.
October 3, 2007 - 17:08 ET by tnculpNot for the child.
Hasselbeck is correct in that it MIGHT reduce abortions, but only because the scumbags will have as many children as they can, only to rack up the money and find some loophole to pocket the cash.
You can be darn sure the Dems will put in some statue that allows removal of the money with a penalty. Even with a 50% penalty, the drug abuser pockets $2500 in crack money. But it makes the Dems feel good, so....
It is so predictable what
October 3, 2007 - 17:12 ET by liberal_bug_zapperIt is so predictable what liberals do. "You've never done it, so you cannot comment on it!"
Of course, this only works one way. The liberals who have never had an abortion can be as pro-abortion as they like with no one saying anything one way or the other.
They constantly rag on conservatives for hypocrisy, yet have so much within their own rank and file that they cannot be allowed to continue with this anti-free speech campaign.
____________________________________________________
"We can only reason from what is; we can reason on actualities, but not on possibilities." ~ Thomas Paine
What's the bidding up to now?
October 3, 2007 - 17:15 ET by 10ksnookerIsn't the offer $5,000 a child? Plus support each month from the feds. Worth more alive that aborted. Who knew Hillary Matters was against abortion.
I mentioned yesterday on
October 3, 2007 - 17:30 ET by msh1973I mentioned yesterday on another thread that Elizabeth and Sherri are no match for the likes of Whoopi and Joy. I don't mean this with any disrespect to Elizabeth or Sherri.
Whoopi is so full of hate and disdain for conservatives that she is in full attack mode, making any thoughtful person unable to counter her views. I think perhaps the View producers don't want a smart, articulate conservative on the show (like Malkin, Ingraham or Coulter) because they like it when Elizabeth and Sherri come off as stupid and speechless. Whoopi is nothing more than a bully!
As a matter of fact Laura Ingraham stated today that she has yet to get an invite from the show to promote her book. She placed a challenge on the air today asking the show to give her a call. She promises that if that happens the gloves come off.
don't understand
October 3, 2007 - 17:56 ET by roni don't understand. these pro-abortion people cry and moan about how it's such a tough decision. how can that be? they claim it's not a "person" until it's born. so, if it's not a "person", wouldn't the procedure be like removing a wart. if so, why the concern that it's a tough decision? because they know it's a person and all this angst helps soothe their misguided thinking.
Lib Logic...
October 3, 2007 - 18:03 ET by vrwc13they claim it is not a "person" until it's born...so, why the concern that it's a tough decision?
Their "logic" defies logic, I guess they get it from their leader who once said "It depends upon what the meaning of "is" is."
v
"The best option planned parenthood has to offer a woman in crisis is the death of her child".
Really? Maybe because it's
October 3, 2007 - 20:18 ET by balboaReally? Maybe because it's going to be a person? No, it's not a person yet, but it's going to be a person. Thus the emotion and tough decision. Der.
Bal...No, it's not a person yet, but it's going to be a person.?
October 4, 2007 - 09:52 ET by vrwc13You are kidding right? Normally I can respect your comments, but this is, well stupid. "No, it's not a person yet, but it's going to be a person."
12 weeks Bal, most women do not even know they are pregnant yet.
"The best option planned parenthood has to offer a woman in crisis is the death of her child".
My personal awakening to the sadness that is abortion came when I answered the question, "Who were you the day before you were born?" My answer forever changed me. -Just Jason
Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened. -Winston Churchill. Don't let this be you Bal, not with this one. v
It takes a hell of a lot of
October 4, 2007 - 17:08 ET by TruthMongerIt takes a hell of a lot of brain twisting to be pro-abortion:)
der
A service of the new NB respect police
And here I was, thinking
October 4, 2007 - 10:36 ET by kathleenirishAnd here I was, thinking that the medieval theory of 'spontaneous generation' had been disproven.
Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar.
If it isn't a person yet
October 4, 2007 - 17:11 ET by msh1973If it isn't a person yet what is it , a kitten? I don't see the logic behind that comment.
well killing a kitten would
October 4, 2007 - 17:20 ET by TruthMongerwell killing a kitten would be cruel - and against the law
A service of the new NB respect police
}}---> balboa
October 4, 2007 - 17:18 ET by Cool ArrowDo you deal with the same "emotions and tough decision" when you watch your blue movies, too?
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Put me on that panel and I
October 5, 2007 - 01:00 ET by 4arrowPut me on that panel and I would not back down.
Multitudes in the Valley
October 3, 2007 - 17:42 ET by BarkerGOLDBERG: ...So, when you talk about it, a little bit of reverence to the women out there who have had to make this horrible decision.
So now it's the Pro-Life movement versus the Pro-Horrible Choice crowd.
mrs
October 3, 2007 - 18:43 ET by krismcsherryFunny how the same people that are opposed to abortion could care less if another American soldier gets blown up in Iraq. Funny how the same people that are opposed to abortion would rather give the wealthy a tax write-off than help a few, needy children with healthcare.
Funny how you frequently go off on several topics at once and never have any real points. Focus.
As for Ms. Whoop-dee-doo. Agree with an above poster: She's another bully to replace the previous one. She squelched the topic because she's angry and had to have the upper hand.
Hasselbeck must have pretty
October 3, 2007 - 18:46 ET by Chris NormanHasselbeck must have pretty low self-esteem or sold her dignity, to sit there, day after day, taking crap from these moronic hags. If she isn't strong or sharp enough to defend her beliefs, she should quit the show. Alternately, she could always knock Goldberg and Behar through a wall.
$$$$$$$
October 3, 2007 - 18:47 ET by RJ$$$$$$$$$$$$
RJ, That's why, as much
October 3, 2007 - 18:51 ET by Chris NormanRJ,
That's why, as much as I can't stand Behar and Goldberg, I have even less respect for Hasselbeck. I think she does more damage to conservatives by giving the impression our views are indefensible. She should just go away and let the show become one big lib-fest. Better nothing than what she's doing.
Chris, I've never been a fan of Hasselbeck
October 3, 2007 - 19:07 ET by RJ....and I've said so many times.
But remember her Survivor origins. She's there to win the million bucks, not for ideological reasons.
Oh, I have no hope that
October 3, 2007 - 19:12 ET by Chris NormanOh, I have no delusions that she'll ever volunteer to quit. I mean, what would she do, get a job as a doorstop? A paperweight? This woman is a hopeless dullard.
Whoopi for brains
October 3, 2007 - 19:08 ET by LionKingWhoopi, have you ever been in that position to make that decision? If not, then shut up...you used the same line on Hasselbeck. Maybe if they made a tougher decision not to get pregnant in the first place, abortion would not be considered as a form of birth control by liberals.
Seems to me ...
October 3, 2007 - 19:31 ET by drillanwr... deciding to have an abortion is a bit easier than deciding to have the baby and either give it up for adoption, or sacrifice a piece of your selfish nature and raise the child to be as good a human being as possible.
What's even easier is deciding to either NOT have sex, or to at least practice safe sex ...
(I'm sorry ... The rape excuse doesn't hold water with me. You're raped, you report it, you go to the hospital, they do their thing ... and I don't wnat to hear the woman's too scared ... I know I'll get slammed for that one.)
I'm not in the dark ages. I'm with Tammy Bruce on this one. Education on personal sexual responsibility and contraception, in this ... the 21st century ... SHOULD be far outweighing the need for abortion. The fact that we STILL have a teen pregnancy rate worth measuring tells me the liberal "sex education" system has failed miserably.
Here's an idea for a PSA for Planned Parenthood or "Pro-choice" advocates ... Hell, for Pro-Life advocates:
Since the left in this country is so fond of using children/teens to push their point/agenda we'll be using kids of sexually active age ...
Each will be shown for a second, as in those `give us government free healthcare' ads. Each will look into the camera and declare "I'm "Pro-choice" ... After a few the camera returns to the beginning of the line up and the kids then state "I'm pro-choice ... So I chose NOT to have sex ... or ... I'm pro-choice and I choose not to have sex, but if I do I choose to be responsible and practice safe sex ..."
At the end the kids say "I'm pro-choice and I choose to be a responsible individual ..."
Saw model Kathy Ireland on H&C a few years ago. She told Alan Colmes that she was pro-choice ... in much the same way. I about fell off the sofa!
There is NO defense of abortion!
October 3, 2007 - 20:53 ET by c5thenThe "Hardest decision" according to Whoopie is still a decision to kill a baby. There can be no justification to willfully kill a baby under any circumstances. It's that simple.
The reason that abortion was legalized in the Roe v Wade decision is because the pro-death side HUGELY exaggerated the statistics to make it seem that the issue was much bigger then it really was. They lied to the media, the public and the Supreme Court and that has been publicly admitted by the chief architect of the propaganda program.
Incidently, the left is using the exact same playbook in their health insurance hysteria. They got it to work before, they will attempt to get the lie past the masses again.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Fred08.com
Elizabeth, don't be fooled.
October 3, 2007 - 22:11 ET by tomchrisThese women hate you. They hate your good looks. They hate your normal/heterosexual marrage. They hate your politics (of course). Now, they hate your decision not to have indiscriminate, unprotected sex.
This is a perfect example how the left always take their positions with religious fervor (to make up for an absense of bona fide religious fervor) and demonize anyone with opposing view points. What would Whoopie say next? That people who oppose abortion are like Holocaust deniers?
Let's go Elizabeth. You already slayed one giant. Time to burn your bridges and bring on Ronald Reagan's famous "I AM PAYING FOR THIS MICROPHONE" moment.
GOLDBERG: Have you ever
October 3, 2007 - 22:19 ET by CrimsonfistedGOLDBERG: Have you ever been in a position to have to make that decision?
HASSELBECK: Never, never.
Let me finish that thought. Elizabeth never had that thought because she didn't bang a stranger for a "good time". Sheesh, I would have JUMPED (verbally) all over Whoopi (where didja get such a stupid name?) on that one. You are NOT in this position if you make the correct decisions in the FIRST place, you moron!
WhatAMaroon
Whoopi (where didja get
October 3, 2007 - 22:32 ET byWhoopi (where didja get such a stupid name?)
Yes, you are even more annoying than Blonde. the EYE
Her real name
October 4, 2007 - 09:50 ET by ricklailHer birth name is Caryn Elaine Johnson. (Thanks to Cool Arrow for the info.) I quess she got Whoopi from watching too much Newlywed Game. Or because she was having so much whoopi. You know she killed 5 babies. Anybody that uses an alias has something to hide. The worst part is using an honored Jewish last name.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
I can't wait until the day
October 4, 2007 - 07:15 ET by ricklailI can't wait until the day that the slut really goes off and lets her gutter mouth prevail. Then maybe ABC will get rid of her. It will happen. It's just a matter of time.
Who actually thinks that the Whoopi is any type of role model. I don't for one minute think that she had any misgivings about any of the babies that she killed.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
}}---> Rick, so heartless
October 4, 2007 - 07:32 ET by Cool ArrowRead the inspiring story of Whoopi, a young woman who only had five abortions. I know you'll be as touched as I was.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
I got so many tears that I
October 4, 2007 - 09:51 ET by ricklailI got so many tears that I had to run get a box of Kleenex. What a crock of crap.
Southern by birth, Tarheel by the grace of God!
Five abortions.
October 4, 2007 - 10:06 ET by Jack BauerFive abortions. Wow.
Doesn't that entitle Goldberg to Planned Parenthood's hightest award, as she becomes a...
So she's proud of the fact
October 4, 2007 - 10:18 ET by Clear thinkerSo she's proud of the fact she's a serial killer.
Get Email updates from Fred http://socialnet.imwithfred.com/email_alert_july_26.html
}}---> She should write a book
October 4, 2007 - 10:23 ET by Cool ArrowShe could call it
"Use Your Coat Hanger For Something Besides a Coathanger. I'll bet it would be Funnnny.
That chapter titled "Shish-ka-baby" could be a real knee slapper.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
cool -- looking at that
October 4, 2007 - 11:36 ET by Jack Bauercool -- looking at that photo it seems she also uses a coat hanger to hold her hair in place..
Who knew there were so many non-clothes application for the humble CH?
Whoopi
October 4, 2007 - 11:03 ET by Sergeant ROCKSo, she's a whore with no respect for life? Imagine my surprise..
Indoctrinate-U
Our Education. Their Politics.
I think all abortions, and
October 4, 2007 - 10:54 ET by bassndudeI think all abortions, and I mean all, should be required to be done by C-section. The fetus placed in the mothers hands, and be required to take said fetus to the funeral home and provide proper funeral arangements. And bury the baby and include a headstone that says, "Here lies ____ Aborted by _____" and then the date and place and name of aborting Dr.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
I was wrong. I thought W.
October 4, 2007 - 15:57 ET by 4arrowI was wrong. I thought W. had grown up. On the show she laughed about teaching her three year old grandson a filthy word which he promptly used in public in a restaurant to the horror of W's daughter.
So perhaps we should rethink the Clarence Thomas affair. Blame his African American Grandma.
}}---> 4Arrow what's that supposed to mean?
October 4, 2007 - 16:19 ET by Cool ArrowThat's an odd comparative leap. What do Whoopi Goldberg and Clarence Thomas have in common that would prompt you to make the comparison?
Please clear this up as I've got a really bad vibe on your post.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Dear me, Can you not
October 4, 2007 - 16:57 ET by 4arrowDear me,
Can you not see?
Both behave badly and blame...
}}---> Tell me 4Arrow
October 4, 2007 - 16:59 ET by Cool ArrowHow does Clarence Thomas behave badly (and blame?)? This ought to be interesting.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
eh?
October 4, 2007 - 17:31 ET by 4arroweh?
}}---> 4Arrow
October 4, 2007 - 17:36 ET by Cool ArrowSomehow I knew you'd stall on answering for your awkward comparison between Whoopi Goldberg and Clarence Thomas.
Although it's impossible to actually see perfect transparency, surely I'm witnessing it. Your implication is pathetic. I'm bored with watching you try to worm your way out of it.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Cool Arrow, Are you
October 4, 2007 - 17:38 ET by 4arrowCool Arrow,
Are you native?
}}---> Am I Native?
October 4, 2007 - 17:43 ET by Cool ArrowOf course I'm Native. I have never been aboard a spaceship in my life. What the heck are you talking about?
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
aha! so you ARE a native
October 4, 2007 - 17:45 ET by TruthMongeraha!
so you ARE a native - I just knew it...
A service of the new NB respect police
}}---> Outed by 4Arrow
October 4, 2007 - 17:49 ET by Cool ArrowAnd I've tried so hard to keep my Native shame from y'all for so long.
Not nearly as interesting as touting space cred from Zardok 5, but it's home.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
we never knew yeZarok
October 4, 2007 - 17:55 ET by TruthMongerwe never knew ye
Zardok 5?
do you know someone by the name of ;oaifaof sofwefhfiwhfweaw'fawpxfjwofrw?
he runs a ;lakfdwoepfwe store in owijfweouewhpo
A service of the new NB respect police
}}---> Heck yeah, TM
October 4, 2007 - 17:57 ET by Cool ArrowHis mama used to wash for us. Took in some ironin' too.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
love that guy - he does a
October 4, 2007 - 18:10 ET by TruthMongerlove that guy - he does a great oijofwpeioruwr impression...
A service of the new NB respect police
Yes blonde
October 4, 2007 - 18:07 ET by 4arrowYes blonde haired,blue/green eyed baby girl. and still Mohawk while pale faced \English Grandmaserves tea
Caryn is a catholic girl
October 4, 2007 - 18:13 ET by 4arrowCaryn is a catholic girl gone wild. Caryn aka W.G.confess and be a good example rather than a strummpet.
}}---> Yes, 4Arrow
October 4, 2007 - 18:17 ET by Cool ArrowBetter to sleep with old hen than pullet.
Sorry you lost your old hen.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
bastardo
October 4, 2007 - 18:25 ET by 4arrowbastardo
Better to sleep with old
October 4, 2007 - 18:39 ET by 4arrowBetter to sleep with old hen than pullet. So says cool arrow
What the heck does this mean?
???
October 4, 2007 - 18:47 ET by BlondeSome kind of weird arrow-speak going on here.
My blonde translation device just overloaded.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Sorry, I think I might be
October 4, 2007 - 19:07 ET by 4arrowSorry, I think I might be cause of your arrow overload
regards
4arrow
BTW I am blonde/blue eyed
October 4, 2007 - 19:11 ET by 4arrowBTW I am blonde/blue eyed \mohawk.
4arrow
October 4, 2007 - 19:23 ET by BlondeBlonde, green eyed Swede/Kraut.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Back on topic.Caryn isn;tit
October 5, 2007 - 00:49 ET by 4arrowBack on topic.Caryn isn't it hot under that massive,heavy wig?
For Blonde
October 7, 2007 - 04:53 ET by UnsaneOkay, what is wrong with being German???
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
}}---> I'm impressed 4Arrow
October 5, 2007 - 01:45 ET by Cool ArrowBut you skipped the part about long walks, ballroom dancing, ddf, and seeking companionship.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
A little too esoteric, CA....
October 5, 2007 - 01:40 ET by JerA little too esoteric, CA....I prefer "chicks" to "pullet".
Jer