Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants to ‘abolish’ carbon usage and sees a direct comparison to the end of slavery.
According to Kennedy, “industry and government warnings” about avoiding “economic ruin” should not be heeded because abolishing slavery did not cripple the British economy as was predicted “Instead of collapsing, as slavery’s proponents had predicted, Britain’s economy accelerated,” he argued. Here's how he put it:
“Lord Puttnam recalled that precisely 200 years ago Parliament heard identical caveats during the debate over abolition of the slave trade. At that time slave commerce represented one-fourth of Britain’s G.D.P. and provided its primary source of cheap, abundant energy. Vested interests warned that financial apocalypse would succeed its prohibition,” wrote Kennedy in a “manifesto” to the next American president in Vanity Fair’s “Green” issue.
An appalling comparison isn't it? Just a few sentences later, Kennedy explained, “Today, we don’t need to abolish carbon as an energy source in order to see its inefficiencies starkly, or to understand that this addiction is the principal drag on American Capitalism.” Then he went out to promote outright “decarbonization.”
Kennedy even absurdly claimed that “economies reap immediate rewards” for ending carbon dependency and cited Sweden’s promise to phase out fossil fuels by 2020. But then he immediately said the Swedes enacted a $150 a ton carbon tax. Kennedy must have trouble with the "reward" concept because taxes sure sound like punishment to me.
















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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants
April 24, 2008 - 09:21 ET by NewsbusterbrownRobert F. Kennedy Jr. wants to ‘abolish’ carbon usage and sees a direct comparison to the end of slavery.“
I see a direct comparison between Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and liberal silliness.
There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Sobbing in my coffee
April 24, 2008 - 09:26 ET by HelenSHave I been mis-informed or isn't there a huge benefit to plants with an increase in CO2? Doesn't it stimulate green leafy growth, increase as well as speed production of fruit? What am I missing? Why the outrage, the panic, the blindness?
Are there that many people really so happy and comfortable being stupid?
I just went and Googled "benefits of co2" and one of the links was this one, about half in Swedish but plenty in English to be useful. Toward the bottom, after a bunch of charts, he says this: "Carbon Dioxide is not even a little bit bad. It is wholly beneficial".
This isn't a difficult concept!
Edited to add this: read the last few comments of the linked report. And then 'splain to me why I should go postal on my nearest libs, i.e. reality deniers!?
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" - Shakespeare
Sure, Bobby, let's outlaw
April 24, 2008 - 09:30 ET by motherbeltSure, Bobby, let's outlaw carbon dioxide, then we can watch all the trees die...you know, those trees that emit oxygen for us to breathe?
Isn't it amazing that these so-called "intellectuals" have no concept of "mutual benefit and dependence"? The way it is now works great. We inhale oxygen, exhale carbon dioxide. Trees and plants inhale our carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen for us to breathe. But these geniuses think they can disrupt that pattern with no ill effect.
Let's try Kennedy's idea, and then see how he defines the "law of unintended consequences."
Huge Benefits to Plants with Increased CO2
April 24, 2008 - 20:53 ET by PopularTechCO2 is essential for plant growth and the mild atmospheric increase has been a boon for plants:
Carbon Dioxide Helps Some Plants Survive Cold Weather, Cornell Researchers Find (Science Daily)
Delay In Autumn Color Caused By Increased Carbon Dioxide Not Global Warming (Science Daily)
- Forests Could Benefit When Fall Color Comes Late (Science Daily)
Duke Study Shows Carbon Dioxide Boosts Pine Tree Reproduction (Science Daily)
Elevated Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Increases Soil Carbon (Science Daily)
Elevated Carbon Dioxide Changes Soil Microbe Mix Below Plants, May Help Plants Grow (Science Daily)
Greenhouse Gas Might Green Up The Desert (Science Daily)
High Carbon Dioxide Levels Spur Southern Pines To Grow More Needles (Science Daily)
High On Carbon Dioxide, Crops Of Tomorrow May Yield More Grain (Science Daily)
Increasing Carbon Dioxide Relieves Drought Stress In Corn, Researchers Say (Science Daily)
More Carbon Dioxide May Help Some Trees Weather Ice Storms (Science Daily)
New Satellite Study Shows Vegetation Increases In North America (Science Daily)
Open-Air Experiment Shows High CO2 Boosts Tree Growth (Science Daily)
Report: High Carbon Dioxide Boosts Duke Forest Growth By 25 Percent (Science Daily)
Study Shows Forests Thrive With Increased Carbon Dioxide Levels (Science Daily)
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We New Englanders know a
April 24, 2008 - 09:30 ET by ThisnThatWe New Englanders know a little bit about Robert R. Kennedy, Jr. If it wasn't for his name, he would be greeted each morning by people in little white labcoats.
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RFK Jr. suffers from the
April 24, 2008 - 09:32 ET by motherbeltRFK Jr. suffers from the inherited gene trait of all the Kennedys...an unreasoning and unfounded belief in one's own superior intelligence, allowing for pompous proclamations without rebuttal.
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April 24, 2008 - 09:38 ET by ThisnThatThis particular Kennedy doesn't have hinges on his doors. He is less inclinded to make statements according to agenda, than making statements that are completely in left field. He truly needs handlers to feed him content, and to derail him when he goes off on one of his personal tangents. It's a sight to behold! But as you probably guessed, not widely advertised.
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MOTHERBELT...
April 24, 2008 - 23:58 ET by danybhoyI'm not so sure it's genetic, but I will say that anything worth a damn about the Kennedy's political dynasty died with RFK. I believe they are arrogant & pompous, but the reason they have been unchallenged is the corrupt MSM, both in New England, & nationally. Ted, RFK jr, Patrick, Michael Skakel( the prick who was convicted of the murder of Martha Moxley with a 6 iron), & William Kennedy Smith (accused of rape, he was aquitted) are all great examples of what you are talking about. I just feel their sense of not believing their crap does'nt smell comes from those who let it slide, rather from within.
Too many people buy into the myth of "Camelot", I see this as the reason for how the Kennedy clan thinking that they have the inerited gene that you mentioned. The idiots who buy into Camelot love "royalty", but seem to forget that our nation had to toss the crown out on it's @$$ to become what it is. They are fools & should be treated as such. Yeah, I want my leader to in place because of an order of succession in a family with a small gene pool.
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RE: We New...
April 24, 2008 - 15:07 ET by geoff.galeYou New Englanders also know that Robby is the willing tool of Caesar Chavez' annual oil giveaway. Sheeesh, wotta idjit.
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Oy comparing slavery to
April 24, 2008 - 09:42 ET by taterOy comparing slavery to carbon. Here's a newsflash...you can get by without slavery if you pay people an honest wage for work. You can't live without carbon dioxide for all of the reasons already described.
Can we abolish liberal ideas?
By justice a king gives stability to a land; but he who imposes heavy taxes ruins it. -Proverbs 29:4
Slavery was inefficient
April 24, 2008 - 17:46 ET by GalvanicWhile religiously-based abolitionist groups in Britain had an impact by spotlighting the human rights issues of slavery, the primary reason that slavery was abolished in Britain was because Britain was leading the West into the Industrial Revolution -- an era in which industrial machines and practices made slavery too inefficient and costly.
If Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants to set an example for Going Green, he can begin with ending his and his uncle's obstruction of the Cape Wind Project in Massachusetts. That project will provide 75% of Cape Cod's electrical power needs if NIMBY schmucks like RFK Jr. would get out of the way.
Lil' RFK is a Licensed MF
April 24, 2008 - 10:20 ET by SickofLibsHe's right about Sweden. By 2020, Muslims will have in essence completed their takeover of that pitifully liberal country, and it will be an extremely accelerated descent backwards to the Middle Ages, where of course the only carbon consumed was from cooking, heating and witch-burning with charcoal.
Lil' RFK should know about this stuff, cause in addition to being a Hah-vaad graduate, he spent another 12 years or so for additional law degrees - meaning, like the rest of his family, HE NEVER HELD AN ACTUAL PRIVATE SECTOR JOB.
Among his many credentials, according to his official bio, Lil' RFK is a Licensed MF - Master Falconer (as opposed to an 'illegal street falconer'), and has organized and led several expeditions, including first descents on three 'little known rivers' in Peru, Colombia, and Venezuela ('little known' to WHITE GUY/ENVIRO-NAZIS from Harvard, but I would guess VERY well-known for millennia to the indigenous citizenry. Sound a bit 'Columbus-like'?).
Need to go back and recheck
April 24, 2008 - 10:28 ET by Dr_LibertyNeed to go back and recheck history. Britain abolished the "slave trade" and its home economy did not benefit directly from slavery as there was not slavery within the British Isles at the time. And, if I am correct, it was not used extensively in their remaining colonies at the time.
Maybe Brits are no longer driving cars, creating electricity or breathing anymore.
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Yo, Bobby
April 24, 2008 - 11:18 ET by CobraManYo, Bobby. If you insist on using an asinine slavery analogy, then I must point out that, by burning oil and coal and emitting CO2 in the process, we're freeing carbon atoms from eons of enslavement and imprisonment.
You see, for millions of years those carbon atoms suffered a long and bitter enslavement and imprisonment underground in the form of fossil fuels. By extracting and burning oil, coal, and gas and creating CO2 in the process, we are freeing those carbon atoms from their imprisonment and reuniting them with their long lost oxygen partners. We then release those reunited families of CO2 molecules back into the free world. What can be nobler than that?
Why stop there?
April 24, 2008 - 11:25 ET by Mica the MagnificentAnd we should pay reparations to those carbon particles.
Free at last, free at last! -- Martin Luther Carbon Particle
Plants enslaved carbon, we free it
April 24, 2008 - 11:30 ET by CobraManPlantlife should have to pay those reparations, as it was their ancestors who enslaved the carbon atoms and not us.
Agreed, CobraMan
April 24, 2008 - 11:34 ET by Mica the Magnificent. . but the bas***ds won't tell us where they keep their wallets.
Just give us freedom!
April 24, 2008 - 11:44 ET by CobraManWe carbon-based humans are being compelled by the free carbon atoms in our bodies to liberate their fossil fuel imprisoned brothers and sisters. That's really all that the carbon wants, freedom, so the plants alive today can keep their ill-gotten gains and to hell with them all.
We'll just have to see what
April 24, 2008 - 12:28 ET by Mica the MagnificentWe'll just have to see what the Carbon Congressional Congress decides, the elected representatives of the carbon particles.
No no no. Not God Bless America, but God Damn America!! - - - Rev. Jeremiah Carbon Particle, Trinity Church, Chicago.
The Carbon Campaign
April 24, 2008 - 14:48 ET by CobraManAre any of them running for Chief Particle of the United States of Matter? Personally, I’m a supporter of the Plasma State.
Oh, the problems of the
April 24, 2008 - 11:35 ET by the_red_stateOh, the problems of the idle rich...
Hot air
April 24, 2008 - 12:05 ET by acumenAs long as we are going back into the future, history has shown abolishing this twenty-first version of slavery would not be complete without eliminating discrimination as well.
A great first start would be getting that controversial Wind Farm up and running off Cape Cod, Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket -- playgrounds for Kennedy and other wealthy powerful elites. Of course Kennedy is opposing this plan because this location is "special" to him. However, isn't every place special to somebody?
Building the wind farm Kennedy so vehemently opposes would truly inform the rest of the nation to what degree these so-called modern abolitionists are committed to implementing environmental change that directly effect not just others but themselves as well.
And the Kennedy's might want to keep some of that carbon around to cover the snow and ice that will accompany the coming ice age.
Hm
April 24, 2008 - 13:31 ET by RainsfordSo, if Sweden and the rest of Europe stop using fossil fuels, does that mean we get them for cheaper? We should launch a media blitz claiming that we will abolish all fossil fuel usage by 2010, and the Europeans, ever trying to one-up us, will vow to eliminate there's by 2009. Once that happens, we can laugh as our oil prices plummet and they ride around in horse-drawn carrages.
Wow, these self-described
April 24, 2008 - 14:33 ET by fitzfongWow, these self-described "environmentalists" have taken self-importance to a whole new level, haven't they? Just when we thought the Iwo Jima moral equivalence was ridiculously hyperbolic, Bobby Kennedy compares his "Green" movement to the abolition of slavery? I'm eagerly awaiting their next self-flattering comparison. What's it going to be? The Virgin Birth? The Resurrection? The Return of the 12th Imam (something tells me that not even they would be that stupid...they do want to live after all)?
Bobby Kennedy compares his
April 24, 2008 - 15:36 ET by motherbeltBobby Kennedy compares his "Green" movement to the abolition of slavery?
How long before we have people going on trial for "Crimes against the Earth"?