AP Warns GOP Against 'Risky' Opposition to Debt

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Opposition to excessive debt as "analyzed" by the AP:

Analysis: GOP gambles in opposing Obama stimulus By CHARLES BABINGTON and LIZ SIDOTI AP White House Correspondent Jennifer Loven contributed to this report.

At least two of these folks come with a history. Charles Babington, when at the Washington Post, and Jennifer Loven, in her current position as Democratic flack for the AP, each have a history of writing briefs for the current Democratic position disguised as news reporting or analysis, with Loven having trouble interpreting polls correctly.

WASHINGTON (AP) Eight days after Barack Obama took office as a "change" president, House Republicans have made a huge political gamble that could set the tone for the next election cycle. In unanimously opposing the massive spending bill that Obama says is crucial to reviving the economy, they signaled they are not cowed by his November win or his calls for a new era of bipartisanship. Obama's popularity will slacken, they say, and even if it doesn't voters will reward a party that makes principled stands for restrained spending and bigger tax cuts.

As usual, "bipartisanship" for Democrats means, "do it our way." The cuts to the package were trivial, the remainder a wish-list of payoffs, new permanent spending, and disguised protectionism.

Democratic officials think Republicans are misreading Americans' hunger for action. And if they are right, the GOP could face a third round of election setbacks next year.

Ah, "Democratic officials" believe there's a Republican gamble, therefore there is one. No possibility that the gamble is on the Democrats' side instead. The rest of the article is essentially a Democratic press release, repeating claims that the Republicans are rooting for a weaker economy, and that tax cuts for people who don't pay income taxes are actually offset against payroll taxes. Remarkable that when the Democratic party spent 2006-2007 talking about, "the worst economy since the Great Depression," and actively undercutting the war effort in Iraq, the AP never found time to accuse them of rooting against their country's economy or military.

The House vote makes it easier for Democrats to portray the entire Republican Party as a do-nothing, head-in-the-sand group, though GOP officials call that unfair.

It certainly will make it easier for the AP to portray the GOP that way, as only GOP officials will call it unfair.

Both parties point to polls that they say show support for their respective viewpoints. White House chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel told House Republican moderates this week that surveys find about 80 percent support for the stimulus legislation. House GOP leaders, meanwhile, cited a poll Thursday in which most respondents said the stimulus bill is too expensive. It also found, they said, that 71 percent think it's unfair to give refund checks to people who do not pay federal income taxes.

I don't believe published polls supporting Emanuel's position exist, and the AP doesn't cite any; Gallup has a slim 53% majority supporting the bill, while Rasmussen has the bill supported by 42-39. And while the Gallup poll has independents supporting it 46-40, Rasmussen has them opposing it 50-27. The AP reports no numbers for the Republican claims, and instead focuses on the unfairness of tax cuts. In reality, the political decision here is easy to make. As Powerline pointed out, if the package is seen to be successful, the Democrats will get credit regardless of how the Republicans vote. If the package is seen not to have helped, then Republicans who vote for it will once again have forfeited a chance to distinguish themselves from Democrats. In the world of the AP, only Republicans always take political risks by acting on principle.


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How telling!  For the

How telling!  For the lefties, it's all about politics, and for conservatives, it's all about what's best for the country.  Real contrast.  For conservatives, opposing wasteful and destructive pork spending isn't a "gamble"; it's standing up for the economic truth.

Porkulus

The GOP isn't taking a chance, they are listening

to the people, which the DIMS  are not.   This

is a Pelosi bill, to get revenge on the GOP.  

Everyone I talk to says this package does not

help make jobs.   Its nothing but ridiculous and

I hope it doesn't pass in its present state.     

Only Economic Illiterates support "Stimulus" Spending

Any and all so called "Stimulus" Spending will do absolutely nothing to "fix" the economy. The government has no wealth to stimulate anything. They will either have to borrow money thus robbing capital from the private sector, print it which will cause massive inflation or raise taxes. All of which will hurt the economy. The fact that economic illiterates in ANY poll or the AP think otherwise does not change reality. Stimulus spending did not work in the 30s, it did not work for Japan in the 90s and it did not work when Bush tried it last year. Only reducing the size of government, reducing taxes and removing regulations can truly stimulate the economy.

Keynesian Economics Is Wrong: Bigger Goverment Is Not Stimulus (Video) (Daniel J. Mitchell, Ph.D. Economics)
Obamas So-Called Stimulus: Good For Government, Bad For the Economy (Video) (Daniel J. Mitchell, Ph.D. Economics)

Over 300 Economists Oppose the Stimulus Package (Cato Institute)

There Is No Santa: The Stimulus Spending Ruse (Walter Williams, Ph.D. Professor of Economics)

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

You hit the nail on the

You hit the nail on the head, PT.  The US government has no real economic capitol.  Unless Washington is willing to part with some of it's real property (offices, military hardware, National Parks, etc.) or some of it's intellectual property (start taking out patents and collect royalties), the only capitol they have is the good will of it's citizens.  The citizens had better make better use of their good will.

Communist nations have a form of economic capitol since they own everything.  It's obvious how successful large scale planning is for a nation and it's economy.

Bang!!!

Right on target ... And isn't that the real problem. The Democrats know, they just need some REpublican sandbags to line their foxhole. What a waste of a bag.

→ Political cover

Those sandbags will brag that they reined the Democrats in when the Bill shrinks from $900 Bn to $899 bn.

We've seen this crap before.  Republicans need to KEEP a hands-off outlook.

Ask not what your country can do for you.  Ask what you can do for your country - Khalil Gibran

Yup. Completely brainless.

Brainless debt is how we've arrived at this crisis.  And now the Democrats wish to pay off their benefactors with an orgy of new spending supposedly backed by more brainless debt, which will in fact be printed money.

The GOP, if it wishes to have any future at all must resist this, or at least stand back and not participate in this suicide.

Remember, George Bush 41 was fired by a pissed-off electorate for his brain dead economics, and replaced by a Democrat everyone knew would be just as brain dead, at least until the GOP took over Congress in '94.  George Bush 43's sucessor was fired for the same reason by a Democrat everyone knew was a Marxist.

What we are waiting for is the next Ronald Reagan.  Where is he? 

It's true.

Republicans have always taken a political risk by voting the way they do.  The media will help the Democrats every possible way it can.  Once again, the Republicans have to stand on principle and vote against this bill. 

If Republicans believe it's too expensive, and will not work, they must vote against it and see whose economic theory is correct.  If the Republicans are correct, this will put us too far in debt, which we won't be able to sell off because this is a world-wide crisis.  So, in order to do this, the treasury will have to print money, which means inflation, which brings about different circumstances.  The chances of this being successful are slim, which is why Obama and company are saying it will take years. 

With Bush's tax cuts, we got out of a recession, economically survived 9/11 and continued to roll on, before the Democrats housing policies burst the bubble.  We know that, we saw it in action, no matter what the MSM tried to say about it.  Unemployment was the lowest in years, inflation was under control, and the country had the best economy in the world. 

Republican economic theory says this plan will not work and will prove to have negative effects on the economy.  They have to make it clear why they are voting against it and point out to people that increased funding for birth control will not turn the economy around.  They have to point to each spending portion, that does not improve infrastructure, is taking money away from a recovery that will improve everyone's lives.  If they're clear, and this falls apart as it must, they will be seen as having done the right thing, by the voters, which is the important part.  The MSM is going to try and tear them up, but I believe Fox News and Talk Radio can put enough doubt out there, especially if things fall apart, that it just won't work this time.

Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.  

One point of disagreement:

One point of disagreement: the Law of Supply, Demand and Price is not a "theory".  The Dems are relying on a theory, though: the theories of Keynes, that the govt can be a positive influence on our economy.  The reality is that govt is an expense to us, and can't produce economic growth.  It can only minimize its negative impact by limiting its size, cost and scope.  The Dems' pork spending pill is going in the exactly opposite direction we should be going, at all times, but especially now.

Instead of two competing theories, we really have the truth, and a pack of lies.

I hope all of you will

I hope all of you will excuse me for just a moment...

The AP can go to hell!

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The bill smells like Marx'

The bill smells like Marx' rotten corpse. I wouldn't get within 100 feet of it. Let the Dems take the fall when it drives our country further into the ground.

Marx bill... What's sad

Marx bill...

What's sad is... this bill is worse than Marx in one way. It only pays off the favors owed by Obama to certain groups that supported him with money. Other than that, this bill has almost NO MERIT whatsoever!

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The AP agrees with you

Clear, you say this bill is worse than Marx. Here's what the AP said: "In unanimously opposing the massive spending bill ...". This isn't a stimulus bill -- it's a spending bill, the largest in history, loaded with pork.

I don't see how the AP can miss this fact -- that Obama, with his 11% cut in the military, is now saying we can't afford to defend this country -- instead, we need to spend the defense money on ATV trails, or sod for the mall, or beehives. WHY is no one pointing this out? WHY is Obama saying the military is too fat; yet the deserving ATV riders need a bailout? The people who need to report this simple comparison is the AP -- who aren't going to touch it, because it doesn't fit their template.

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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech

Rahm Emanuel and the AP

Rahm Emanuel and the AP are baldfaced liars. I haven't seen any polls in the past week supporting Emanuel's numbers.

Not that it matters what the polls say. If we didn't develope our own belief structure we would indeed deserve the sheep title the democrats are trying to give us.

The stimulus bill is not a stimulus bill at all but socialistic policy combined with democrat pork.  We have no obligation to support any legislation we believe is detrimental to our country's future. 

  

 

the bailout

 If you want to see what the bailout will do all you need to do is to look at the japanes situation they had 20-25 years ago.

  Same problem .. same fix and the problems that the "fix" was soposta fix never really went away and in fact made things worse

"Risky" opposition to debt? ROFLMAO!

The Ass. Press and their fellow-traveling lefties spent years railing against budget deficits and our ever-increasing national debt (particularly when republicans were in power). 

Now that Obamameister the Boy Wonder is in charge, complete with a "D" behind his name, and whose plan is essentially going to bleed the treasury dry, suddenly any opposition to "debt" is now considered "risky."

Too funny, this dog-squeeze is.

Obamaganda. Gotta laugh at it.  :-)

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

They retrieve an old, battle tested......

democrat poll driven word used by algore in describing the "risky scheme" of dealing with the ponsi scheme that is social security.

Frankly, I don't care if the

Frankly, I don't care if the polls are 70% in favor. I don't think we should make complex financial decisions for the country based on  opinion polls that poll people who have never taken an economics class, and who wouldn't know John Keynes from Alicia Keyes.

I'm really curious about

I'm really curious about something. When Obama goes into the tank within the first few months, sort of like what Clinton's numbers were like in '93 and '94, is he going to be able to come back after the GOP Congress takes over in 2010? This will be very interesting indeed.

Rahm Emanuel  polled the

Rahm Emanuel  polled the house and senate democrats and then came up with the numbers. The Republicans have nothing to lose and everything to gain by voting against the bill. They need to realize that by funding ACORN they are slitting their own throats next election.

What these 2 dufusses are

What these 2 dufusses are really saying is that Democrats are really taking a gamble (do they realize 11 House Democrats voted no, as well?) I regained some respect for the GOP House members after last week's vote. Now if the Senate GOP sticks with their core principles, the message will be loud and clear that they know a bad bill when they see it.

AP propaganda

AP is obviously engaging in propaganda here. Like you said, 11 democRATS voted against it, but that's not 'risky' for them of course.

Let me state the obvious again, the democRATS and their willing accomplices are trying to guilt the GOP into supporting this massive government take-over.. err.. I mean: 'stimulus plan'.. so that the GOP cannot use it as an issue in '12.

(See also; 'Read my lips...')

 

Bolton/KEYES 2012 

If McCain had returned to

If McCain had returned to Washington from his campaign and opposed the TARP bill, he may have been elected....

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→ But he didn't

McCain, as you indicated, went back to the Hill and demonstrated his abilities as an accomplished cross-dressing Democrat.

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HA! HA! HA!

So true!

Bolton/KEYES 2012 

Funny how the Democrats

Funny how the Democrats think that spending money on programs like "The Arts" helps out the economy.  And how does giving "welfare" to somebody motivate him/her to get a job any quicker?  I know that if the government was just sending me checks in the mail I would probably take an hour or two off early everyday.

Don't forget your condoms!

Don't worry they'll sneak it back in when you're not looking.

The 'left' is completely mad. They delude themselves into believing that a new shade of lipstick, in this case: Obama, will result in something other than a pig.

Bolton/KEYES 2012