Update: Obama finally comes out with strong repudiation. Is it enough? He will also be interviewed on FOX tonight.
Now, everyone has heard Obama's pastor of 20 years preach his racist message of America hate, and Obama has come out with his very weak response. We have also saw the study on how the network media failed in its coverage.
Sometimes we instinctively know the truth. Sometimes it is easy to demonstrate this with a hypothetical question that has an obvious answer.
So, I am asking this simple hypothetical question:
How differently would the media react if John McCain had attended the Westboro Baptist Hate Cult for 20 years, and when asked about it only gave the mild response that he didn't agree with everything they taught? I think we all know that he would be crucified by the media and probably pushed to drop out of the race by the next day.
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That's Different
March 14, 2008 - 16:39 ET by allanfIf McCain had attended Westboro Bapist, or given a talk at Bob Jones University that would be different. He'd be a no hold barred bigot so long as he had an (R) by his name. But if he had that magical mystical (D-AZ) after his name, all would be forgiven. He'd be enlightened.
All the Southern Democratic Segregationists were forgiven. Strom Thurmon, who became a Republican was not. Zell Miller was attacked as a bigot when he endorsed George Bush in 2004.
Wright = Phelps
March 14, 2008 - 22:54 ET by ToddonCapeCodI do believe that Jeremiah Wright is the black Fred Phelps.
Both men hate America. Neither is so different from the other.
I refuse to put "Rev" before either of their names, much like Jesse and Al, because there is nothing Christian about any of them.
Kind of a stretch...
March 14, 2008 - 16:39 ET by mvfreemanThe church Obama goes to has thousands of members. Phelps' group is a handful of nut jobs that are beyond the pale.
Besides McCain has already been linked to a controversial religious leader...
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1400
Let's make that the discussion. Because seriously, if McCain had attended Westboro he would never have been elected to anything, so that makes it a moot point.
Not really that much of a stretch
March 14, 2008 - 17:07 ET by ckc1227Both preach hate and intolerance, one just has a bigger audience and a presidential candidate in his corner.
"Besides McCain has already been linked to a controversial religious leader..."
Last I checked, McCain hasn't attended this guy's church for 20 years, nor has he hired him to work on his campaign.
"http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1400
Let's make that the discussion."
Yes, let's, because what this guy said is tame compared to Wright's sermons of hate.
BFS
March 14, 2008 - 22:19 ET by mvfreemanBFS
Implicating the catholic church in the holocaust is "tame".
Okaaaay.
Not an Obama fan but show me that this guy was on his campaign staff. None of the talk shows I have heard have said that.
Soft Peddling?
March 14, 2008 - 17:13 ET by allanfI am not trying to jump on you, but I think you are undeplaying the significance of Obama's relationship with Wright. The words "spiritual advisor" come from Obama, not conseratives.
The kind of vitriol Wright exhibited does not strike me as an isolated aberration. It raises a legitimate question. Why would Obama associate with someone who put forth such a message?
I believe I heard tonight that
March 14, 2008 - 19:55 ET by Cape Conservativethe good reverend is going to be out of touch for the next three months. (hmmm, until all the primaries are over...hmmmmm)
I guess Obama figures that out of sight will be out of mind - we can certainly count on the msm to not follow through on his whereabouts. I don't think it is going to work, though.
However, Wright remains on the campaign staff...and I believe that will be Barack's undoing.
Gee, I wonder who who who let the dogs out.......
IMO - -Obama-rama is Toast - - -Enter hillary
March 14, 2008 - 20:15 ET by JayTeeThe Reverend is being heard far and Wide....talk Radio, Fox, Drudge, the MSM cannot cover up the Manure pile, the G.D. Reverend has done in Obama.
We have been seated in the Pews of Rev. Wright's Church, and we have heard him speak.
Huckabee was covered like a Glove on MSM....the Reverend is not running of Course, but Religion was made to be an Issue in the Presidential Race. SO be IT.
Ground Control to Major Obam . . . Your ship is falling out of Orbit . . . you can only HOPE things will CHANGE.
If McCain had spoken there,
March 14, 2008 - 16:41 ET by R D HelmIf McCain had spoken there, he wouldn't have even made it beyond the first primary, if even that.
LOL-Of course, speaking as a true conservative here, I almost wish McCain had spoken there.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
RD... Heck, he wouldn't
March 14, 2008 - 16:49 ET by bigtimerRD...
Heck, he wouldn't of lasted one week!
Look what the msm did to Romney and his religion.
bt,
March 14, 2008 - 18:33 ET by R D HelmYeah, the flaming hypocrites of the MSM absolutely crucified Mitt. That was beyond shameful.
Yet, here we have a guy who has been a 20yr member of what I am beginning to see as an racist, America-hating cult, if you will, and the MSM is trying its best to ignore it.
I really believe that part of their motivation, aside from trying to protect Obama, is that so many in the MSM have no problem at all with what the "Rev." Wright is saying about this country and its people. How shameful. I really thought we were further beyond this sort of thing as a nation.
Not only do I hope this tears the Democrat Party to shreds, as I feel they deserve it due to their 50yr history of the deliberate enslavement of minorities, among other things.
I also hope it will cause the same thing to happen to the MSM, as well. Maybe the American people all across the spectrum will finally wake up to the fact that the MSM is truly become a liability to this nation.
I have just about had it with these despicable people.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
RD... Well, unfortunately
March 14, 2008 - 18:39 ET by bigtimerRD...
Well, unfortunately it won't happen to the msm, not any time soon anyway.
The dem. party is another matter.
I just know that Obama waited so long to respond to all of this was because he knew it would be late Friday afternoon and he is hoping it will blow over by Monday morning...so is most of the msm that are in love with him.
bt,
March 14, 2008 - 18:56 ET by R D HelmI think Obama, with his obvious reluctance to meet this head-on, has really blown it here, possibly to a point that is beyond repair.
Last I heard, he still refuses to boot this guy out of his campaign. That alone raises questions about his judgment, along with some other things.
I realize the MSM, just as in the Spitzer case, is trying its best to sweep this all under the rug, but I don't think they can now. I mean "Rev." Wright pretty much vehemently insulted Americans of all stripes, not just fat-cat rich white guys, during some of his tirades.
I think this story has, as they say, legs. I believe ultimately this will knock him out of the running.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Talk about hypocrisy
March 14, 2008 - 17:29 ET by bigtimerTalk about hypocrisy here...on Tucker's show Rosa Brooke's was saying nobody likes to hear yucky stuff...referring to Wright's hate preach...can you believe it?
Yucky!?
If this was anybody and I mean anybody with an R behind their name they would of been skewed by the likes of the bimbo-headed leftist.
Like AB Stoddard and Tucker said later, there will be people looking to see if he and his wife were in attendance during any of his race hating speeches...they both find it hard to believe his supposed innocence about Wright and his views...then Rosa chimed in with well they may not of heard any of this, you know how some people don't listen in church at times...Tucker then said yeah, maybe in a Methodist church...but not this kind of rhetoric.(I am paraphrasing here)
Rosa is desperate, along with a lot of people right about now when it comes to their bubble being burst...leftists want and do believe anything.
Pathetic.
A poll you will not see
March 14, 2008 - 17:31 ET by NBFHere's a poll I guarantee the DNC/MSM media will not conduct:
Would you associate with a "church" whose "pastor" said what Obama's pastor said (God Damn America, etc)?
If any of us wondered
March 14, 2008 - 19:46 ET by Cape Conservativewhat reasoning was behind Michelle Obama's controversial statement re: first time she was proud of her country in her ADULT life...I guess if one sat in a church pew listening to the likes of what this "minister" spewed forth week after week, month after month, year after year for 20 years!!!!, they'd be a bit out of sorts with America, too.
I do believe this will be the undoing of his campaign. Tonight on The Factor there were two supposedly educated black females who made one excuse after another for this so-called preacher. If that is Christian teachings, then I guess I've been attending the wrong church for many many years because I've NEVER heard such hateful rhetoric!
Has the MSM EVER linked to Drudge or a Conservative Blog?
March 14, 2008 - 17:59 ET by exLibI noticed that on MSNBCs front page they are linking to Huff Po. I realize that the purpose of Huff Po was to counter the influence of Drudge with liberalisms, so I have seen at least 2 or 3 references to Huff Po by major media outlets in the last couple weeks.
Westboro didn't hurt Al Gore
March 15, 2008 - 02:20 ET by Lynn DavidsonJohn Stephenson asked, "How differently would the media react if John McCain had attended the Westboro Baptist Hate Cult..."
Well, it didn't seem to hurt Al Gore, but a Republican accepting money and campaign work from Westboro and the Phelps family would not be treated so kindly. Fred Phelps is a registered Democrat and ran for office as a Democrat several times.
What Really needs to be seen
March 15, 2008 - 08:55 ET by sbarkWhat really needs to hit the media is a You-tube video of Mr. & Mrs. Obama in the crowd, listening to the sermon, and giving the "Yes We Can" arm wave high in the air all at the same time.....
Its gotta be out there.....if Spitzers "girl" is on line...so is Obama in church....