Trouble: Gingrich Talk of Life Begins at Implantation With Tapper
I’m sorry to say the good people at CatholicVote.org are apparently starstruck. Blogged Josh Mercer yesterday: "The Gingrich campaign contacted me directly last night about the comments that he made to ABC News. The campaign sent me the following statement from Newt Gingrich. (Which is also on their website). I am very glad that the Gingrich campaign was quick to respond to the fallout from the ABC News interview and that they came out with a strong pro-life statement which reaffirms the scientific fact that life begins at conception."
Really? A personal note is all it takes to move past Newt Gingrich’s unequivocal statement to ABC’s Jake Tapper on December 2, that “when a woman has [a] fertilized egg and that’s been successfully implanted that now you’re dealing with life”?
Gingrich actually went further than that. When Tapper asked for clarification, “So implantation is the moment for you,” Gingrich more than reiterated, “Implantation and successful implantation.”
So Gingrich added he believes an embryo that does not successfully implant is not a human life either. This can only mean that Gingrich believes an embryo that may initially implant but later miscarries is not a life. What other explanation can there possibly be?
Gingrich campaign’s attempts at damage control
I’ll tell you something. The Gingrich campaign contacted me directly, too, sending me the same statement it sent CatholicVote.org and also contacting me via Twitter.
But Gingrich can’t say one day that life begins at implantation and the next that life begins at conception and get away with it.
One reason this is a huge deal is because in 2001 Gingrich supported federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, which President Obama is currently subsidizing at the rate of ~$145 million a year.
Would President Gingrich nullify that funding? Put his statement to Tapper together with his past support of taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research, and I’d be wary, despite his campaign promise to National Right to Life.
Gingrich needs to be asked how he lines his Tapper statement and his past support of taxpayer funded escr with his weekend statement, “I oppose federal funding of any research that destroys a human embryo because we are also dealing here with human life.”
In fact, I tried. I asked for just a 10-minute interview with Gingrich. Here was his campaign’s answer:
Why? Not to toot my own horn, but mine is the most widely read strictly pro-life blog in the U.S., as I indicated to the Gingrich campaign. To give me a satisfactory answer clearing up this whole controversy would go a long way.
I also tried through Twitter. His campaign had sent me a link to this video, in which Gingrich said on November 19 he advocated Congress passing a law which defines personhood as commencing at conception.
This is great but again stands in contradiction to the crystal clear statement Gingrich made only two weeks later that life begins at implantation.
Thus, I tweeted Gingrich’s campaign, “So he supports something he thinks should be illegal?” In other words, Gingrich, supported embryonic stem cell research in 2001, and somewhat in 2011 (his statement to Tapper on escr was pretty impossible to understand), but also in 2011 he thought human life should be legally protected from the moment of conception? I got no response.
No, this isn’t over, not unless and until Gingrich renounces his statement to Tapper as a mistake.
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OK so we have a "pro-life"
Submitted by ThePickle on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:53pm.
OK so we have a "pro-life" person attacking another "pro-life" person because the 2nd "pro-life" person is insufficiently "pro-life" for the first person.
Sounds like the plot of a "b-list" docudrama.
Well I guess these are the types of issues to bring up during a primary race.
with that rationale even Nancy Pelosi, the "princess" that
Submitted by lrgon on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:18pm.
Newt Gingrich crawled into a global warming bed with would be considered "prolife!"
She said this about those nitpicking Catholic prolifers at a WaPo article:
".. the truth is what I said. I’m a devout Catholic and I honor my faith and love it . . . but they have this conscience thing.’’ http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/princess-nancy-pelosivows-...
TheNew American website:
"Catholics who believe the federal government should not be able to compel healthcare providers to perform abortions “have this conscience thing” that they really need to overcome."
http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-and-morals/9916-pelosi-ridic...
Dude....what the hell are you
Submitted by ThePickle on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 4:05pm.
Dude....what the hell are you talking about?
Absolutely NOTHING Nancy Pelosi has EVER said would lead ANYONE with any semblance of a rational mind to believe she is ANYTHING but a "pro-abortion" fanatic.
Now Newt Gingrich's record is just a bit different:
As a member of Congress, Gingrich voted anti-choice 72 times - out of 74 opportunities.
He voted for "personhood" rights, which would make abortion and many forms of birth control illegal.
He voted 10 times to bar the city of Washington, D.C., from using its own locally raised tax dollars to provide abortion care to low-income women.
He voted to eliminate the nation's family-planning program, Title X. This is the same attack that the U.S. House of Representatives advanced in 2011.
and if you doubt the validity of the above claims...they are taken directly from:
http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/2012/gop-presidential-candidat...
So tell me again how that puts Newt Gingrich in the same boat a Pelosi...hell tell me how that puts them on the same ocean.
Let's have some perspective
Submitted by deadeyedan on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:55pm.
Jill, white-gloved, fine-toothed comb inspections of everyone's positions will reveal these same flaws in just about everyone's statements.
Newt's assertion that implantation must occur is not that far off the mark since no life will result without it. Admittedly this would open up an excuse to use devices to prevent implantation, though.
Still, it may be that Newt was making his statement from a perspective when such devices were not available so readily.
GLOBAL WARMING - authoritarian, rather than authoritative, science
appeasement
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:29pm.
Birth control pill does just that so it may be a political as well as ethical statement trying to appease the most popular method of birth control by women.
Forget about Newt, You've dug deep enough to see him for
Submitted by lrgon on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:06pm.
what he really is - a southern fired liar that is liberal and deceptive. Newt is however the kind of politician that "cafeteria conservatives" like: they lie, cheat on their wives and hang around power centers selling their souls to any king maker that will back them. The don't care one whit for innocent babies nor the country ; their only interest is in themselves.
Very Insulting
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 5:31pm.
Just what do you have against the the South and fried food? (Unless you actually meant, "southern fired", in which case, you would be insulting the fine Southern tradition of barbecue!)
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Maybe Irgon meant a kiln and
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 11:42pm.
Maybe Irgon meant a kiln and the glazed pottery produced known as Liberals.
Are you watching?
Submitted by h8commielibs on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:09pm.
With the attacks against Cain in the communist democrat media's rear view mirror, now its a non stop attack Newt. Princess Nancy announced 'dirt on Newt is coming!'. Where was the fervor against Hussein in 2008? Where was this need to dig up dirt when John and John were the epitome of hypocrisy in 2004? When are we as Americans going to demand this communist/media complex be shut down? We are living in times only told to us from WWII Nazi Germany! Do you understand?
Let the left
Submitted by dan iroticiv on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:26pm.
Why do some conservatives and republicans like Mr. Colburn find it necessary to attack our own. Gosh, do you really think the mainstream media is not going to use your comments against you or your party. Stop it.
Jill, you have some valid concerns.
Submitted by TeachertT on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 3:33pm.
But we shouldn't be choosing a candidate based on ONE agenda. That is also why we should really pay attention to who we send to congress. They are the ones who put the funding for the things like embryonic stem cell research. The President can advocate for it, but he can't provide funding. Or at least that is how it is supposed to work.
My take on when life begins is still in flux. I had IVF 11+ years ago. I had 3 zigotes implanted. One just passed right through. One implanted, but all it made was a sack. Looked like a 1/2 blown up helium balloon. No baby, no nothing inside. The 3rd zygote not only implanted and grew a sack, but there was a baby inside the sack. Nine months later my son was born. Keep in mind, all of this happens BEFORE a woman would even miss her first period. Needless to say, I have spent several years thinking about when life actually begins. Seems to me it isn't as conception, or my son would have a twin. But since we are not God, we can not know which zygotes are life and which aren't. That is why I am still against abortion, embryonic stem cell research, and other after the fact contraception. WE ARE NOT GOD.
Conception vs Implantation
Submitted by MominMD on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 6:19pm.
I am vehemently pro-life, but Newt's concern about the difference is cogent and something to be thought about. The "life begins at conception" laws that Georgia and Mississippi tried to pass are two cases that point out this fine line. Are all miscarriages, even when they occur very early, and only known because pregnancy tests have become VERY good, to be investigated as possible murders? Just a thought.