MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts: GOP Has ‘Sour Grapes’ Over Fast and Furious
It appears as though Thomas Roberts has joined chorus of MSNBC hosts jumping to the defense of embattled Attorney General Eric Holder over the Fast and Furious scandal. In an interview with Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.), Roberts suggested that Rep. Darryl Issa’s (R-Calif.) investigation into Fast and Furious was simply an example of the GOP having ‘sour grapes’ and looking for an ‘ax to grind.’
Rep. Mica countered the liberal Roberts by noting that MSNBC reporters are acting as apologists for the White House and Holder. Mica’s comments came following President Obama’s claim of executive privilege to shield Holder from turning over all the documents requested by Issa and the House oversight committee. [Video follows page break; MP3 audio here.]
Roberts jumped to the White House’s defense arguing that the Obama/Holder Department of Justice had turned over plenty of documents already, so in light of that, "is it just sour grapes on your part pushing forward?”
You do have to give this to Roberts, though, his staunch defense of the Obama administration justifies Rep. Mica's observation that MSNBC has indeed become "apologists" for the Obama White House, a Democratic message machine rather than a news organization.
Below is the relevant transcript.
MSNBC
MSNBC Live
06/20/2012
11:40 a.m. EDT
THOMAS ROBERTS: So we continue to follow that breaking news unfolding on Capitol Hill. The House Oversight Committee expected to vote anytime now on whether to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress then that would move on to a full vote on the House floor coming up in a week or so. Now the committee convened in this hearing after 10:00 a.m. this morning. Florida Congressman John Mica is a member of the Oversight Committee and has been inside that meeting today. He is also serves as the chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee and we’re lucky that he stepped out to join us. Sir it’s great to have you. And I just want to ask you, your reaction to the president’s issue of executive privilege this morning on the documents after February 4, 2011 that you would like to see submitted.
CONGRESSMAN JOHN MICA: Well, unfortunately it’s one more stalling tactic. Last night we had a stalling tactic by Eric Holder. Offered to provide a few more, a little dribble of documents. And if we would close down the investigation. Today the president's proclaiming executive privilege is an outrage, again, there's no basis for executive privilege. We had an agent of the United States killed with drugs that were supplied by a plan that went sour devised by the Department of Justice. This is a serious matter and our committee has the jurisdiction, should investigate this and get all the information and documents relating to this major disaster in the history of the Department of Justice.
ROBERTS: Sir, when you talk about the documents and the dribble that you refer to that have been released to you and this committee, it’s over 7,600 pages of documents.
MICA: Yeah. I heard your apologist, one of your announcers talking about that from the White House. There are close to 100,000 documents and communications we have identified. Now I'm even more concerned that they set the February 4th deadline because February 4th, 2011, Until 11 months forward, they denied that there was even anything going on here.
ROBERTS: But sir --
MICA: Again --
ROBERTS: I think you're referring to our White House reporter Kristen Welker talking who was talking about the release, not an apologist but our White House reporter, NBC News’ Kristen Welker reporting about the 7,600 pages of documents.
MICA: Okay. Well then, the White House reporter who's being an apologist for the White House. Let me clarify that. And the 7,600 documents. That's a selective distribution. Selective information to the committee. This is a committee with investigative jurisdiction. Again, over the Department of Justice which has been involved in an incident in which a federal agent was murdered with weapons supplied by the Department of Justice. This isn't a game. And again, we should get each and every document relating to this incident. Not some game played last night or some injection by the White House today. And if the White House knew any time from February 4th, 2011, to current of what was going on, then there's really big trouble.
ROBERTS: Sir, when we talk about the fact that the investigation by the Department of Justice goes up until that date of February the 4th, you are not entitled to the documents that are after that date so is it just sour grapes and looking like some type of ax to grind --
MICA: We're entitled to any and all documents relating to this case. Period.
ROBERTS: But not if the president issues an executive privilege so is it just sour grapes on your part pushing forward.
MICA: That's absolutely not the case. That's not the case. President’s have exerted that before and, again, that can be contested. Executive privilege is when there are issues of national security, appointments, international situations. This is a possible criminal act, and actions by the Department of Justice in which an agent of the United States government was killed by weapons supplied by the Department of Justice. So, executive privilege, we'll contest that every hour of the day.
ROBERTS: Representative Mica, we’re going to let you go and get back to work. Sir, thanks for your time.
MICA: Thank you.
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Owwwwwy, that smarts........................
Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 2:14pm.
That ladies and gentlemen was a bitch slap.
And
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 2:39pm.
Well done!!!!!
I heard a news story that John Bonehead told Issa to...
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 2:45pm.
...back off a bit over Fast and Furious.
If that's true, his cowardly ass should be thrown the Hell out of congress.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
AGREED!!!
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 2:48pm.
As relieved as I am that Pelosi is gone, "Bonehead" has turned out to be such a disappointment.
Bachman would be one hell of
Submitted by MrSnuggles on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 2:53pm.
Bachman would be one hell of a speaker.
Or Colonel West.
Submitted by drsamherman on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 4:23pm.
Let the Demos try their crap with him.
Feeling the heat apparently
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 3:07pm.
The WH must be holding Bonehead's feet to the fire or something.
That's what happens when you play golf with the devil.
I don't know of any other reason why he would be asking/telling Issa to back off.
-Jon
And not just Boehner
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 3:44pm.
ANY republicn that votes against the contempt charge nees to go. We should show all of these congress-critters what a recall election is all about. You WILL do your job in congress, and you WILL promote the will of your constituents, or you're OUT. Nuff said.
Shill baby shill.
Submitted by NeoKong on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 2:49pm.
Somebody sure is a good little talking point sock puppet.
Thomas Roberts has no idea,
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 3:17pm.
like many of the people who use the phrase, what "sour grapes" means.
It means that after failing to get something one was trying for, he proclaims that he didn't really want it anyway.
It's denigrating something that one can't have as worthless.
After Holder refused, had Mica said "Who cares, we don't need those documents anywyay," THAT would be "sour grapes."
Of course, liberals simply decide that things mean whatever the hell they want them to mean.
Sour Grapes?
Submitted by Pa1adin on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 3:13pm.
Well, yeah. An illegal operation run by the government getting innocent people killed to subvert our 2nd Ammendment rights does make one somewhat bitter and determined to bring it all to light.
LAME STREAM MEDIA
Submitted by A TEXAS GRIZ on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 3:14pm.
will be FORCED to cover this story. MSNBC is freaking out over it, and that is good.
Tommy Bobby is a misinformed infantile hack.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 4:00pm.
Who doesn't know at this point that the "7,600 documents already released" were mostly blank pages or so heavily redacted that they are laughable?
BTW, watching the hearing, I would like to nominate Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) to replace Boner, effective immediately.
Unfair Fight...
Submitted by Jimi Streets on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 4:22pm.
How unbelievably ignorant and childish Roberts' replies were to the Congressman.
Mica was hilarious and effective. MSNBC has really become a pathetic lightweight in the "news" game, in many ways.
The people they hire are soulless, humorless, lying, bitter, automatons that have no integrity: Toe the Democrat line (lying) at all costs, those being - lie at the Dem's direction; willingly suspend the normal human trait of rationality; sear their own conscience after years of lying, to the point that it has no effect on their psyche.
Ratings drop, liars are exposed, creeps get hired, screw up, then get promoted. MSNBC, and actually, liberals in general, have doubled down on the hateful crap that has lost viewers for MSNBC, and lost elections for the democrats.
Keep up the good work!!
Going to hell, but amongst friends....
Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 4:30pm.
Anyone else "uncomfortable" with Roberts talking about "Sour grapes"....
I may get in trouble for that one...................
Sour grapes?
Submitted by ohio granny on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 4:33pm.
One border patrol agent murdered, possibly an ICE agent murdered, 200 - 300 Mexican citizens murdered by guns that ATF allowed to walk across an international border and this idiot calls it sour grapes. What would it take for someone so gutless and clueless to call it what it is?
Of course this is MSNBC, the no news network that is the PR agency of the democrat party. Shame on you Thomas Roberts for saying it is okay to cause the murder of an American Border Patrol agent and kill hundreds of Mexican citizens if it furthers the democrat agenda of trying to gut the 2nd amendment.
What a horrible, dispicable piece of slime you are.
Agreed
Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 7:37pm.
I really HOPE that Romney and the Republicans slam that point home, ONE BRAVE AMERICAN HERO is DEAD and hundreds of Mexicans thanks to Steadman and Obysmal.
Sour grapes my a**.
Tomo, at least two Americans are dead
Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 7:48pm.
because of F&F. BATFE agent Jaime Zapata was killed outside a Mexican city, San Luis Potosi. And another agent was wounded, both by a gun walked across the border under F & F.
Good job, Rep.
Submitted by nolefan2 on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 4:58pm.
Mica. You got your point across in spite of Mr. Robert's attempts to get you to agree with him. I would have loved to have watched you, but I boycott that network.
Grapes?
Submitted by bobsmom on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 7:21pm.
For someone testicularly challenged as Mr Roberts, I'd stay away from talking about grapes no matter what the motivation.
This is much more a negative for Obama than it is for the GOP
Submitted by lrgon on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 9:43pm.
The media has kept the majority of American ignorant of the illegal gun running scandal and now that this is breaking the administration has to scramble to put a positive spin on it; to divert attention away from the unconstitutionality of the scam and the culpability of the AG in trying to cover it up. The majority of the public just now hearing about this scandal have had to do catch up to things that were discussed on "conservative talk" for months!
There were reasonable discussions that this federal run operation was an attempt by Obama and Holder and others to use as an excuse for more gun control laws. With Brian Terry shot by a gun allegedly sold to the cartelists by federal agents this news was spiked by mainstream puppets.
The lesson for the GOP is that in context of the so-called "war on drugs" instituted by a US president from the GOP, is that this war has led to more and more attacks on the constitutional liberties of Americans and the drugs have not been slowed on iota.
EP should be contested because...
Submitted by texasborngranny on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 11:52am.
Congress has asked for internal DoJ emails/documents between Justice officials to see if they misled Congress ; they have NOT requested documents relating to advice to the President.
AG Holder knows such communications aren't typically protected by executive privilege.