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Yet Again, MSNBC Excuses Bill Maher’s Disgusting Attacks on Sarah Palin

By Jeffrey Meyer | March 09, 2012 | 18:24

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On Wednesday’s edition of his eponymous program, MSNBC anchor Martin Bashir and his liberal panel continued their staunch defense of Bill Maher while ripping into Rush Limbaugh.  MSNBC contributor and former Democratic National Committee communications chief Karen Finney gave her tortured defense of the media's double standard:

You know, he is a public person. Sandra Fluke is not a public person.  Bill Maher is a public person.  Sarah Palin is a public person.   You could make the argument whether you like what Bill Maher says or not, when you are in the public arena,  you do put yourself out there in a way that a private person asked to testify in Congress should not expect to be attacked.  [See video below.  MP3 audio here.] 

So Karen has contradicted herself, saying that Fluke is a random "private citizen" who just happened to be "asked to testify in Congress." In fact it was Democrat Elijah Cummings, the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, who discovered Fluke.  His aides heard Fluke speaking at a televised press conference on February 9 at the National Press Club.  Private citizens do not have the habit of participating in press conferences at the National Press Club. Secondly, if she was a ‘private citizen’ as Finney claims, it was the Democrats that selected her to "testify," making her a public figure.  But even then, her participation was not legitimate congressional testimony, as it was an exchange with a Democratic steering committee, not a duly-constituted congressional panel.



Democratic strategist Julian Epstein chimed in, attempting to distort the Maher comments even further by arguing that:

Bill Maher is not the spiritual leader of the Democratic party as Rush Limbaugh is of the Republican party. Secondly, many Democrats have said that when Bill Maher has used some of the offensive words that he has crossed the line. Third of all, comparing what bill Maher's rift is on Sarah Palin is basically that she is an empty suit when it comes to public policy, and that I think is true and factually based.

Maher may not be the "spiritual leader" of the Democrats, but he makes no bones about his liberal and anti-conservative political sentiments both on his HBO program and when he appears on other televised outlets. What's more, Maher cut a $1-million check to Obama's Super PAC recently, money the Super PAC will not give back, by the way. 
 
What's more, because Maher is a comedian, his comments are supposedly excusable, yet Rush Limbaugh, who on a daily basis makes comedic comments, is beyond the pale? How is that not a double standard?

Liberals have tried to transform Fluke from a seasoned political activist into an apolitical victim of conservative talk radio.  To quote Ms. Finney, “we’re not that stupid.”
 
Below is the relevant transcript:  

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Martin Bashir
03/09/2012
3:02 p.m.


MARTIN BASHIR: Diversion, make believe, victim-hood and insults. And they think bill maher is a bad guy. Joining me now Karen Finney an MSNBC political analyst and former DNC Communications Director , Jonathan Capehart an MSNBC contributor and opinion writer for The Washington Post, and in Miami Democratic strategist Julian Epstein. Good day to all of you. Karen, just so that we can understand her argument, Ms. Palin says that Rush Limbaugh is a good guy because she was called a four-letter word by Bill Maher and the president pals around with terrorists and radicals, right?

KAREN FINNEY: Apparently that's her argument. But you know Martin, here’s what is so important.  Couple of things.  Number one.  I'm hearing this from women this week and last week.  Let's not get distracted. This is not just about a couple of words that Rush Limbaugh used about Sandra Fluke. It is about the whole picture that he painted of her as some kind of slut/whore/make a video of yourself having sex and put it on the web.  I mean it was far more disgusting than just two words. Secondly, you know, he is a public person. Sandra Fluke is not a public person.  Bill Maher is a public person.  Sarah Palin is a public person.   You could make the argument whether you like what Bill Maher says or not, when you are in the public arena,  you do put yourself out there in a way that a private person asked to testify in Congress should not expect to be attacked.

BASHIR: That is correct.  John, yesterday Fox News had this conspiracy involving the late Derrick Bell. He passed away just last October and he’s already now been raised from the dead by fox news and every aspect of his personal achievement working from difficult circumstances raising himself up to such a position of seniority  is completely rubbished. And we're now supposed to refer to him as a radical, is that right?

JONATHAN CAPEHART: Apparently so. But again we're talking about Derrick Bell and we’re talking about the victim-hood of Sarah Palin. We're talking about all of these other ancillary issues, if you want to call the Derrick Bell issue an issue. Because the main thing the Republicans have been running on since 2009 is the economy.  And the economy is by all measures doing better and could be doing much better three, four months from now and certainly maybe at least the administration is hoping certainly by November. They have to do something, talk about something to gin up some kind of questions in the mind of voters before they go to the polls.


BASHIR: And so John, they scrape the bottom of the barrel?

CAPEHART: Of course. Of course, they do.

BASHIR: Julian, is anyone thinking clearly about what it means to rally around and protect someone like Rush Limbaugh?  I mean is it really in Republicans’ interest to be known as an apologist for such an odious loathsome and tired sack of hatred.  

JULIAN EPSTEIN: Yeah, and I think until the republican leadership expressly repudiates Rush Limbaugh, they have to stand for the grand old philistines. I mean look, let's understand why the analogy to Bill Maher doesn't make any sense and just falls down. Bill Maher is not the spiritual leader of the Democratic party as Rush Limbaugh is of the Republican party. Secondly, many Democrats have said that when Bill Maher has used some of the offensive words that he has crossed the line. Third of all, comparing what bill Maher's rift is on Sarah Palin is basically that she is an empty suit when it comes to public policy, and that I think is true and factually based, comparing that to a statement calling a woman a slut because she advocates for contraceptive coverage in the insurance policy is like comparing Bernie Madoff to a shoplifter. The analogy just breaks down on so many levels.  The fundamental point here  is that the Republican leadership is still yet to repudiate what has to be the number one most disgusting comment made in politics in 2012.

FINNEY: But guys, I've got to step up here for the women. It's not just about the comments. It's about this man saying if I'm going to pay for your sex, i want you to video tape it and put it on the web. It is more than just...women feel this very deeply. It's more than just those two words.

BASHIR: It was dressing up everything about this woman’s character in the most insulting manner.  

EPSTEIN: Everybody agrees on that.

FINNEY: I just notice everybody keeps saying these two words.

CAPEHART: I didn't say anything about this.

BASHIR: That's true. But Karen, this conspiracy theory which is being proposed by several commentators that Sandra Fluke was planned and planted by the White House, I mean are they going to say the reason Rush Limbaugh had a massive pilonidal cyst on his backside some years ago is because he was infected by Democrats?

FINNEY: Oh yeah.  Here is be problem Martin.  

BASHIR: No.  Answer the question. Is that cyst caused by Democrats?

FINNEY: Sure.

BASHIR: Ok thank you.

FINNEY: Here is the thing.  We’re not that smart.  I wish we were.  I would love to take credit.   The problem Republicans are having. Women aren't that stupid. They were counting on women being really stupid. And you know what, we’re not.  And it’s not just about...I mean this has really brought up a whole host of issues that have been going on for women in this war on women in the last couple of...last year in particular. It's about the measures that the state legislature that are basically telling women you're idiots and you're too stupid to make any decisions about your own body. So guess what, the government has to tell you when you've been raped. Has to make sure you're not so frivolous with your sexuality that you’re going to try to use rape as a loophole to get an abortion. I mean, just remember, this is layer upon layer upon layer.  And then this kind of conversation coming from Rush Limbaugh. And also, I mean, Republicans know, to me this says we're winning this argument. They’re trying to change the suggest on two things that are not at all parallel. And this is supposed to be the party of smaller government yet they want to get all up in our uteruses.  No, no, no.  We’re not that stupid.  

BASHIR: Ok Karen, I suggest we take a pause for a moment because that was a very powerful argument. We have much more. Jonathan and Julian stay with us if you can, we have much more to discuss.

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I expect nothing less of MSNBC. They are the bottom of the...

Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:35pm.

"outhouse" and that is where they will remain until they scrap their network.

At least this CK fella, or whatever his name is, got some good advice and dropped out as host of the Correspondent's Dinner.

He would have been as big a fiasco as MSNBC is every day!

Jim Webster
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Because a person is a public

Submitted by Soldat44 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:37pm.

Because a person is a public figure you can call them vile and guttural vulgar names?

Is that their excuse??!!

God help us...

'One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church'
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Indeed, it is their excuse.

Submitted by NC Cop on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:41pm.

It's the only one that they can come up with that justifies them turning a blind eye to Maher's vile comments, but allows them to scream bloody murder when Rush says something they don't like.

Here's a hint lefties. In all of the news stories I've read and watched about this ridiculous witch hunt, they have no problem repeating what Rush said about this girl, "slut". How many of them actually printed or said what Maher called Palin?

Now why do you think that is?

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It's a pretty flimsy excuse

Submitted by dzejk113 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:35pm.

I'd be curious to see just how long that excuse held up if someone were to say equally vile and vulgar things about a democrat politician or some other liberal "public figure". Somehow I doubt the Bill Maher defense would hold water with these talking heads under that circumstance.

I heartily accept the motto "That government is best which governs least" . . . Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe -- "That government is best which governs not at all" -Henry David Thoreau
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Yeah but...

Submitted by Rukus on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:24pm.

A million smackers will get ya a lot of wagon-circlin' with this crowd.

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!
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Not public??

Submitted by KornKing on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:38pm.

Once she did the dressed up show for the press, she became public, she made a "choice"

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of course the left excuses Bill Maher...now folks...follow me...

Submitted by thescoots on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:43pm.

I not only cancelled HBO...I went directly to Wounded Warriors Project and made a donation....on behalf of the money HBO won't be getting any more....because WWP deserves, needs and appreciates our support...HBO does none of that...

I have no connection to Wounded Warriors...except for this...I am a veteran....and I want to help them.....Do you? Can you? If you are an HBO subscriber...you most definitely can help them...cancel that tripe....and help your neighbor....he's a wounded veteran with a wife and kids.....please...lets do this together.....

thescoots
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Pretzel Logic!

Submitted by optimist on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:50pm.

I sure hope the libs stretch before they twist like this. They could pull a hammy.

The revolution will be fought at the ballot box
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Stretch and pull a hammy?

Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:21pm.

I want them to BREAK in a million pieces.

I will agree w/ Finny on one thing: Democrats are not smart.

That's just my opinion; I could be wrong. -- Dennis Miller
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Oh, the horror, Bell kicked the bucket JUST LAST OCTOBER.

Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:51pm.

Tell us, O Swarthy One, what is the proper mourning period amongst you Pakis?

Cause I was under the impression it was 12 minutes, as was the in the case of Andrew Breitbart.

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If that's the excuse they

Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:55pm.

If that's the excuse they want to use, Sandra Fluke made herself a public person when she decided to testify before a Congressional committee, and to lobby publicly for a cause she supported. Not to mention that she gave up her right to privacy on her own, by talking about her sex life in public.

She entered the political arena on her own.

I am NOT saying she should be treated badly; but that that's a lousy excuse to use.

But as I've said, they not only have standards, they have double standards, so they are twice as moral.

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what goes around comes around

Submitted by MidAmerica on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:57pm.

I just love the fact that Maher's vile grandstanding to get attention has now gotten him unwanted attention plus he has become Rush's best defense. The more they try to 'expose' Rush the more Maher's comments are recognized as indefensible.

....and Maher's million dollar contribution has now tainted the President. The democrats wouldn't pass on an opportunity to tie a foul mouth Right-wing million dollar contributer to a Republican candidate.

Ya gotta love Maher's black little heart.

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insane

Submitted by driguana on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:12pm.

These people are really insane. What a scary time in this country!

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⇒ Read Your Bible, Mr. President!

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:14pm.

If you are a Christian as you claim, 1 Cor. 8:4 should help.

What it says is that if somebody makes a big show of serving meat that has been sacrificed to idols, refuse it.

So you see, supposed Christian Obama, it's not the money that's dirty, but the fact that Bill Maher is rubbing your nose into his gaudy "big check" presentation.

Daddy Obama approves of calling women "c#nts, sluts, hoes, and some other filthy things on his iPod.

Await the whirlwind.

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They continue to make excuses

Submitted by tcm14 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:46pm.

They continue to make excuses about why Maher's okay, but the real test is if he had said the same things about Michelle Obama, what would their reaction be?

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By making a bullsh*& argument

Submitted by O2bnAZ on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 8:14pm.

By making a bullsh*& argument the left is effectively arguing it's ok to call a black politician the n-word just not your black neighbor..

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Slight modification

Submitted by dzejk113 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:00pm.

According to the left's argument it would be ok to call a black Republican politician the n-word. We all know that's the minor detail the media leaves out when they say it's ok to say vulgar things about public figures, that they really mean it's ok to say vulgar things about Republican public figures.

I heartily accept the motto "That government is best which governs least" . . . Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe -- "That government is best which governs not at all" -Henry David Thoreau
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Once again the Marxists get it wrong on M.S.S.R. (M-BS-NBC)

Submitted by djwolf12 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:47pm.

Rush Limbaugh IS a public person, but since Sandra Fluke has the backing of Dee Dee Myers, former Clinton Press Secretary (who was arrested for Drunk Driving in 1995), Sandra Fluke IS NOW a public person. Thank me very much for pointing that out to the idiots on this propaganda outfit.

"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets". - Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver (1976).
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"and his Sarah Palin jokes"?

Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 11:09pm.

Pig hates Palin, he aint joking.

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty
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So, Julian Epstein is down with Maher's vile

Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 1:22am.

characterizations of Sarah Palin as what he said she was? Because he agrees with Maher about Palin? Because they think Palin isn't up to their standards?  That makes Epstein as vile as Maher.

Congrats, Julian, you're as classy as Maher, I'd bet in your heart of hearts, you'd like to call Sarah some names, too, admit it.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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Bill Maher is not the spiritual leader of the Democratic party??

Submitted by Marsh on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 1:59am.

Rush rarely has guests on.
BIll Maher has Democratic politicians on practically every show and backs them up 99.9% of the time.

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75 seconds.

Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 2:18am.

It takes a 75 second search to spell out exactly what the difference is. 

Karen Finney: Secondly, you know, he is a public person. Sandra Fluke is not a public person. Bill Maher is a public person. Sarah Palin is a public person.

Wrong. It is not that these people are liberal or Democrats or partisan. It is that they are stupid and remain deliberately stupid.

Sarah Fluke is a limited purpose public figure. "A limited purpose public figure is someone who has taken a leading role in a public controversy but who is otherwise a private figure."

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Fluke is not a public person?

Submitted by big.league.slider on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 3:01am.

Fluke is not a public person? Say what? The only reason we're talking about Fluke is because she demanded a public forum. She got exactly what she demanded.

As for Palin, I can't recall her whining about nasty comments from the likes of Maher, unlike Ms. Fluke. Even though Fluke is 30-years-old, she still needs to grow up.

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FREE FREEDOM

Submitted by MCLANTIERE on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 8:18am.

Has women's contraception actually become rallying point of American politics in this election year? CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, Gloria Allred, and Sandra Fluke would have you think so.

But, the real issue should be this: why is Society paying the bills generated by anyone's personal promiscuous decisions? We have become a people who want everything for free. We want a free job, free healthcare, free money, free citizenship, free mortgage. Free Freedom.

Americans want Freedoms without cost.

BTW: the Barack Obama and his Liberal New media love this stuff. Gas prices are soaring, the federal deficit is astronomical, unstable countries have nuclear weapons ... and America's biggest issue on the evening news is the Republican "War on Women". Truly, the Magician Obama has us watching his right hand, while he's pulling rabbits out of his hat with his left. Obama is offering Free Freedom in exchange for a vote.

America has finally gone mad!

FREEDOM to Liberals means "I do what I want ... when I want ... and someone else pays the bill". The "War on Women" is nothing more than a brainstorm from a election-year, divisive government stirring the pot on what one group believes is their "right". A "right" to act promiscuously means a"right" to have taxpayers clean up the mess. The Left would have us believe that the Government has no place telling them what to do with their bodies in the privacy of their bedrooms ... until it comes time to pick up the check. What they want is Free Freedom.

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MSNBC

Submitted by beenaroundyaknow on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 8:37am.

Everyone on MSNBC are political whores for the Democratic party. Oooops, as a private citizen, can I say that?

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Libs are a weird bunch - MSNBC= weirdos on TV

Submitted by gruyere cheese on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 11:16am.

no disrespect to "normal weirdos", as I know quite a few, but they are not liberals and so that makes them normal.

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So No Problemo if Hannity were to call Michelle Obama a C***???

Submitted by krendler on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 11:27am.

So, using their lame-o excuse/"logic", they'd have absolutely no problem if Hannity or Dennis Miller were to call Michelle Obama a C***???

Rich. These clowns keeping digging themselves in deeper and deeper on this. This whole thing has become more than Limbaugh. The media is being exposed, once again, as a group of ultra-partisan hypocrites. And the louder they screech about Limbaugh and offer laughable defenses of Maher, the more hypocritical they appear.

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These people don't walk upright

Submitted by Ken James on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 3:02pm.

they slither on their bellies like the snakes they are.
They are always looking for the clever argument that
makes it appear their actions differ from mere
mortals.They even have an answer for how Joe the Plumber
was treated I am sure. Joe didn't seek publicity like Fluke, it found him.
And the media skewered him, because again, it was different.

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So they would have no problem

Submitted by mrskorn on Sun, 03/11/2012 - 2:37am.

So they would have no problem with Maher saying these words about Michelle Obama, or Nancy Pelosi? I doubt it.

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