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Shorter MSNBC: Voter I.D. Laws Are Racist, Even Though They Seem Perfectly Logical

By Jeffrey Meyer | March 09, 2012 | 13:43

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Once again, MSNBC has continued to prop up Rev. Al Sharpton’s racist conspiracies that state legislatures led by the GOP are deliberately suppressing minority voters through new voter ID laws.

On Friday’s episode of Jansing & Co., radio host and MSNBC substitute host Michael Smerconish led a left-wing attack on the GOP.  The panelists including Pennsylvania AFL-CIO chief Richard Bloomingdale asserted that a person's signature is sufficient identification to vote in the United States. Indeed, both Smerconish and Bloomingdale insisted they have voted that way for years in Pennsylvania with no problems.  [See video below.  MP3 audio here.] 

But as it stands right now, current Pennsylvania laws requires voter who "appear[s] at a polling place for the first time" to bring photo ID with him or her to the polling place. If he or she lacks a photo ID, any number of "non-photo identification that includes your name and address" will suffice.

The discussion continued with Joy-Ann Reid of TheGrio.com claiming that, "they went at the things Democrats tend to do, early voting we’ll just cut that down. or requiring an I.D., things that tend to hit voters that don't vote for them."

Smerconish, no novice to politics, demonstrated his ignorance on the subject less then thirty seconds later when he made the following ridiculous comments:


    I think that there are isolated incidents of voter fraud that get blown out of proportion. One of them happened in my hometown in the '08 cycle on election day, involving the so-called ‘New Black Panthers.’ Truly two knuckleheads in my view looking to get on tv and not to intimidate anybody, but Matt Drudge blew it way out of proportion. Rush Limbaugh then touted it and all the sudden, in the heartland, there was a concern that the election was being stolen.


One can only imagine the outrage Smerconish and other members of the liberal media would express, and rightly so, if the story had been two white rednecks standing outside a polling place in say Selma, Alabama, spouting nonsense and intimidating voters.

Democratic strategist Krystal Ball chimed in by claiming that, “when you look at the fact that 25 percent of voting age African-American voters do have the government ID that they are requiring, it becomes quite clear that this is an effort at voter suppression and a cynical Machiavellian political tactic.”

At no point did anyone on the panel consider that perhaps it would be more constructive for liberals to seek to expand access to photo IDs rather than kill a sensible law.

Indeed, what was ironic at the end of the debate were comments by Reid who admitted that, “I think that people think it's logical that you should show an ID.. I think it's hard to argue with the logic of that when you have for so many other aspects of ordinary life.”

Liberals like Reid cannot hide from the fact that logically one should show an ID  when one votes, but of course like any good liberal has to explain to the audience the racist undertones in voter ID laws that they cannot see without the help of folks like herself and the liberal news networks like MSNBC that endorse their argument.

Below is the relevant transcript.

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JANSING & Co.
03/09/2012
10:03 a.m.

MICHAEL SMERCONISH: So let's bring in our panel now. Richard Bloomingdale is the president of the Pennsylvania ALF-CIO. Joy-Ann Reid is the managing editor of Thegrio.com and Krystal Ball is an MSNBC contributor and Democratic strategist. Richard, let me begin with a fellow Pennsylvanian, when I go to vote, sir, in Montgomery County, I sign my name. Is that enough of a precaution? Is that enough of a legitimacy check in our state?

RICHARD BLOOMINGDALE: Absolutely, Michael. And thank you for having me on the show. You know, for, god, years it's been plenty. Our judges of elections know us and recognize us and it's all about local involvement, and, you know, we're trying to get to this big brother attitude of let's try to make everybody papers, please, when they walk into their polling place. When I have voted in the same place for 17 years and before that 20 years. My judge of elections knows me. A signature is fine. There is no voter fraud as Reverend Al Sharpton mentioned. This is about failed ideas. This is about the right wing --

SMERCONISH: Well Joy-Ann, that's the way it is at my polling place as well. You know, they know me because I'm a blowhard but they also know me because I've lived in the neighborhood for a long, long time. In a neighborhood that has much more transition, I'm sure they don't get to know folks, and I wonder whether ballot security measures are sufficient at present? Somewhere in there, there's the proper balance.

JOY-ANN REID: Well you know what, The thing is the reason that I'm cynical about these attempts to sort of stop so-called voter fraud, I lived in Florida for 14 years. There's no place more transitional than that, people come and go, but when the Republicans in Florida decided to pass voter i.d. laws, they didn't get at the one place that there ever has been fraud, which is absentee balloting, but absentee balloting happens to be where Republicans are strongest so they completely ignored the potential for absentee ballot voter fraud and they went at the things Democrats tend to do, early voting we’ll just cut that down. or requiring an i.d. , things that tend to hit voters that don't vote for them.

SMERCONISH: Krystal, I think that there are isolated incidents of voter fraud that get blown out of proportion. One of them happened in my hometown in the '08 cycle on election day, involving the so-called ‘New Black Panthers.’ Truly two knuckleheads in my view looking to get on tv and not to intimidate anybody, but Matt Drudge blew it way out of proportion. Rush Limbaugh then touted it and all the sudden, in the heartland, there was a concern that the election was being stolen. I guess my point is, it steams there's a lack of data to prove there's a problem that warrants such widespread change.

KRYSTAL BALL: Yeah. As you're pointing out, it's been absolute utter political propaganda, and there's another reason to be cynical other than the reasons that Joy-Ann was pointing out. If you look at which states have really pushed these efforts, and it goes way beyond just a government i.d. , they're attacking this process at every stage from voter registration to when you can vote, as you said the early voting, to then actually being able to vote on election day. But if you look at the states that have really pushed these efforts, they are states that have had large growths in minority populations. Places like Florida and Georgia and Texas have been on the front lines, and when you look at the fact that 25% of voting age African-American voters do have the government i.d. that they are requiring, it becomes quite clear that this is an effort at voter suppression and a cynical Machiavellian political tactic.

SMERCONISH:  Richard, I want legitimate voters out there and voting. One of the things I'm most proud of is I've never missed an election in my life. We need more people voting so long as they're legitimate. And I liked hearing  reverend al say to show an i.d. is not objectionable, so long as we are tapering what form of i.d. it might be to the community we are trying to serve.

BLOOMINGDALE: You know, in going back to what Krystal was saying, this is about fear. It’s about the changing status quo.  The folks that have been in charge are losing power and they want to make sure that people don't vote. You know, anytime -- if you erect a fence, if it's a foot, it's still a fence. If it's ten feet it’s harder to get over, but if it’s a foot high it's still a fence. Any kind of attempt to keep people voting is wrong. You're right Michael, America is about inclusion, not exclusion. And we gotta make sure more people vote and have the opportunity to vote. We don't need to be erecting barriers to our seniors and in Pennsylvania it would disenfranchise a disproportionate number of seniors. We saw wall street and Santorum fail –

SMERCONISH: Thank you. Let me ask Krystal Ball a quick question.  How is this playing with “I's"?  How is this playing with independents? I know that folks who are partisan “D's” are saying it’s voter suppression.  The hard core GOP base says oh no, no, no, it's just ballot integrity. And as I like to underscore the power really rests in the hands of independents in my view come November. What are they thinking as they watch this?

BALL: Well, this is my own personal opinion not based on polling, but my sense is that thus far Republicans have done a much better job of messaging on this issue which is why I'm so grateful to people like Reverend Sharpton who are bringing this to the forefront. Because I think this is the single most important issue facing the country. And it's not just in these voter sup...voter i.d. laws. We also see in the push-back against illegal immigration. Ann Coulter said in her CPAC speech, that  if we allow illegal immigrants to become citizens, the whole country will go the way of California and no Republican will be able to get elected again. This is about a broad range of efforts to keep their people at the polls and more Democratic leaning voters out.

SMERCONISH: Joy -Ann, do you concede that thus far on this issue the GOP has done a better imaging job?

REID: Well, I think that people think it's logical that you should show an i.d. I think it's hard to argue with the logic of that when you have for so many other aspects of ordinary life, but I think that what Krystal said is where it gets to. Look, if you're the republican party right now, let's just keep it real, okay? Your base is getting down to primarily white men. You have lost Hispanics because of the messaging on immigration. You have lost African-Americans decades ago for any number of reasons. You are now largely a southern, western party. You're landlocked to certain parts of the United States. So you can grow your -- you can make yourself a national party two ways. You can either get more people to vote Republican and bring more people in, or you can get more of the other team away from the polls and keep them from voting, and right now I think Republicans are playing a very cynical game. They're saying, listen, we can't grow our base, so we're going to try to suppress the other team.

SMERCONISH: Well I think Reverend Sharpton had the right message for "D's" and for "I's," people who are able to be persuaded on this issue, which is to say -- to ask for identification is not offensive, not problematic, but lets be reasonable as to what form of identification that might be.

REID: If you look in Texas, they're saying student i.d’s  –

SMERCONISH: I know, But a gun license works, yeah. End of argument. Richard Bloomingdale, thank you very much. Joy Ann and Krystal stick around.

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⇒ Of course it's racist

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 2:08pm.

How can any self-respecting White American believe African Americans could be capable of having their picture taken and matching it up with a name and address?  Yes, that's what liberals truly believe.

Liberals take their ownership of the Black Race seriously, patting them on the head with that knowing "poor thing don't know any better" look.

As long as the message is filtered through the appointed spokesperson (Sharpton, Jackson), the condescending paternalism is dampened.

"We shall overcome" and "content of their character" are nothing but words anymore.  The President has now launched "African Americans for Obama".  It doesn't get much more blatantly racist than that.

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Stupid libs

Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 2:55pm.

Yes, liberals believe that it is almost impossible for an 'African-American' to get a free state issued photo ID. They claim it is too much of a burden.

Hey, Smerconish, here's a link right in your state!

Americans keeping their own earnings is a Civil Right! Demand your Civil Rights!
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Oh the humanity!

Submitted by Schofield Kid on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:37pm.

The PA ID card is $13.50, how can anyone possibly afford that? Clearly racist! I think it's pretty much the same in all states. CA is $15 and they even have a discount for lower incomes. How in the name of God do they get away with this argument? Clearly they're counting on non-registered or non-citizen voters to win this election.

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Why is it?

Submitted by Dave the mailman on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 2:08pm.

Why is it 25% of voting age blacks don't have a photo ID?
What is keeping them from getting one? Don't they need an ID to open a bank account? Or apply for a job? Or cash a check? I suppose the white man is "keeping them down", huh? That must be it.
...wait, don't they need an ID to apply from gov't benefits? How is he keeping them down AND giving them benefits?

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⇒ Disgusting, huh?

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 2:14pm.

I don't know about the benefits thing, but Democrats are all too quick to jump in there with the "Jim Crow" meme, a system of laws Democrats created in the first place.

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But, wait!

Submitted by almostacowboy on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 5:18pm.

Welfare and unemployment recip's don't need ID's any more. They can access all their welfare needs on the "free" gov't mandated iPhones!

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But, wait!

Submitted by almostacowboy on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 5:18pm.

Welfare and unemployment recip's don't need ID's any more. They can access all their welfare needs on their "free" gov't mandated iPhones!

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Yah! Darned Right

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 2:31pm.

Voter ID laws are racist. It will prevent all of America's white trash from voting for the black man in the White House.

White race baiters are white race traitors.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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⇒ Nope

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 3:02pm.

They are Human Race Deniers.

Darwin pustulated some races are more genetically valuable than others.

What we're seeing here is the Liberal belief in White superiority.  Regardless of proof to the contrary, liberals believe African Americans should be controlled with threats of a boogerman should they stray from the Plantation.

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Very sad

Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 3:04pm.

Does anyone remember Smerconish on the radio...I mean, before he went insane?

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)
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I stood in line

Submitted by fivestring_assassin on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 3:31pm.

at the Wisconsin DMV for over 2 hours registering a new vehicle...it took 2 hours because of all the time granted to those who need an ID...so, they are getting them and they are free...it's a biigus argument put forth by race pimps and racists at MSNBC

That said, to deny voter fraud doesn't exists is like denying the earth is round

In the 2004 Presidential election, there were 5300 more votes counted than cast in Milwaukee County....the vast majority went for Kerry...incidentally, Kerry won the state by about that same margin
http://www.punditpress.com/2011/04/evidence-of-wisconsin-voter-fraud.html

A Recession is when your neighbor is out of a job. A Depression is when YOU are out of a job.. A recovery is when OBAMA is out of a job Hat tip to Ronald Reagan
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I am feed up with stupid

Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 3:58pm.

I am feed up with stupid ghetto negroes who can sign up for welfare but can't manage anything else. I f they are that stupid they have no right to vote. Yeah I'm a racist, what is your point?

Non, je ne regrette rien. "You aren't angry because I might be a racist, you're angry because you know I'm right".
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Like minded

Submitted by CJohnson on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:15pm.

I love your song.

Hakapelita!
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And the truth, which supposedly sets you free, will---

Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 8:46pm.

be, as usual, ignored by liberals as a way to ensure the plantation numbers are not significantly decreased.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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"News To Me"

Submitted by mad53PA on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 4:10pm.

I live in Pennsylvania and when I went to last vote, I had to provide a photo ID and then provide my signature so it could be checked with the one on record when I first registered.

The Obama/Democratic 2012 strategy is out in the open:

1. War on Women

2. Racist Voter I.D. Laws

3. Income Equality

4. Entitlement State

5. Anti Immigration

Obama can't run on his record, so they are trotting out the old playbook once again.

Conservatives/Republicans are knuckle dragging, socially backward cavemen who want to repeal voters rights, take contraception away from women, insure the rich get richer, prevent immigration and scale down the government so only
the poor and destitute suffer.

This is going to be one horrible dirty election and we better be ready.

Obama: Hopeless Change!

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Missed it

Submitted by Jerry Mack on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 4:13pm.

I have never seen or met an individual that did not have identifacation complain they were not allowed to vote or register. I have heard examples of invalid mothers, poor people and others. Did I miss them or are they in the same category as Bigfoot.

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Whatever happened to the Constitution?

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 4:56pm.

Where did the Founding Fathers demand that voters need photo ID?

Barriers to voting are sinister. Voting is a right! Driving a car is not a right!

Unless the state will drive to everyones house, take their picture, and give them an ID, then this law is bogus.

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Please direct us a photograph of a Founding Father.

Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 5:07pm.

Just one would be fine.

"Where does Barack pit one group against others?"© - Porndamaged2000

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ya don't say?

Submitted by CJohnson on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 6:12pm.

The founding fathers did not require ID to sell guns to untrained juveniles, join militias or to hunt the British regiment. Fathom that, Van.
Sounds like they approved of the unlicensed killing of British sheriffs.

Hakapelita!
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Still doesn't explain

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:27pm.

Why do you want to make it harder for people to vote?

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⇒ VD

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:33pm.

You couldn't possibly be so stupid as to believe that's the reasoning behind Voter ID.

You are?

Sorry.

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You're like a pinball

Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:33pm.

You get batted and go in a completely different direction. We currently require people to register to vote. Is that "sinister"? You must be 18. Is that "sinster"?

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If you're registered...

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:41pm.

why do you need photo ID? You show up, vote in your district, and go home. Are you worried that people are going to vote in your place?

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⇒ VD

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:48pm.

You know why Photo Voter IDs are needed. Unless, of course, you really are that stupid.

I'm still of the belief you choose to play stupid.

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~Same here

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:51pm.

.

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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Voting in my place?

Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 8:04pm.

That sounds "sinister". I'm sure it's NEVER happened....ever. You are right, this is just racism.

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photo ID is needed ....

Submitted by NL207 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:51pm.

because there are election districts where ...

  • dead people are registered
  • people who no longer live there are registered
  • nonexistent people are registered
  • illegal aliens are registered

“Vacant lots had several voters registered on them. An eight-bed halfway house had more than 40 voters registered at its address,” Engelbrecht said. “We then decided to look at who was registering the voters."

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You are a total f'ing moron

Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 8:56pm.

Funny that people have to have a photo ID to cash checks (government or otherwise), drive cars, and redeem their tax-on-the-statiscally-challenged (that would be lottery) tickets, but they cannot produce a photo ID to vote?

Seriously, just how colossally stoopid are you?

All you lefty pr*cks are really upset about is these laws make voter fraud a little more difficult.

You aren't fooling anyone, you lying POS troll.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

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Voting is a right

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:16pm.

Driving a car is not a constitutional right.

How often do you show up to vote, only to find out that someone voted in your place?

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~They vote under DEAD PEOPLE'S NAMES

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:24pm.

Click on this.
 

316,000,000 results enough for ya?

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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Actually,

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:40pm.

what really happens is people, who are alive, vote, and then they die.

Can you prove when these people voted, and when their time of death was?

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Lets look it up brain damage*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:53pm.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/01/south-carolina-attorney-general-...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/11/video-nh-poll-workers-shown-handing-ou...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogzIIjgaBtg

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html

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~Oh, wait

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:59pm.

I got you millions of links you could look at to find the answers to those questions and you want me to go one step further? Yeah, I don't think so.
Why don't you sit up straight, wipe the drool, click on a half dozen links and get back to us when you've read them.

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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You ask too much WB*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:05pm.

I was more kind and sympathetic to the mentally damaged. I only gave him 4 links to review, and made it easy, one of them is a video....;-)

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~You're too nice

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:10pm.

but I guess someone has to be. 

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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Lets make it easy for Mr Damaged*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:20pm.

My favorite, Dr Thomas Sowell is now on Hannity talking about Derrick Bell. Awesome review of a radical.

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Your proof of voter fraud

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:20pm.

Is conservative activist James O Keefe committing voter fraud! Priceless!

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Yes damaged, priceless*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:23pm.

He shows just how EASY it is to do.

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Ya gotta remember, Ms. Caj,

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:31pm.

Ya gotta remember, Ms. Caj, that this dope is too stupid to comprehend the irony of the purported voter fraud. He thinks that O'Keefe actually went in there and did it because that's the way he is - ahh, the mind of a liberal idiot......................long on self-importance, and short on knowledge or common sense.

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It's on video

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:41pm.

O Keefe commits voter fraud.

You really showed me who commits voter fraud....Conservatives!

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Source it troll. You are a proven liar and must source all.

Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:47pm.

braindamage2000: So how come when people like Michael Steele and Sarah Palin criticize him, the GOP makes them backtrack?

braindamage2000: When Michael Steele criticized him, the RNC made him apologize.

  braindamage2000: ...I can't give you a document that proves that the GOP pressured Steele to apologize to Rush.

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~Oh yes, they do!

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:49pm.

That's why they're so eager to have voter ID laws!

Wait. -------

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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Amazing this lib

Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 11:01pm.

Who is embarrassedly thick, still thinks he can make a coherent point. Cringe worthy to say the least.

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty
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I find your feined support for the Constitution offensive

Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:26pm.

...you insignificant communist puke.

Many of my ancestors, as well as my extended and immediate family members, fought to preserve this nation's founding document and the nation it brought about. 

Several of them did not come back alive.

I will not tolerate a clueless Obama ass-kisser like you defiling that document, as he is doing all he can to destroy it, along with the nation it founded, and government-educated sh*t-heads like you are supporting him all they way.

Get the Hell out of my country, you GD'd mother f*cking POS traitor.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

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Carrying a gun IS a Constitutional right

Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:29pm.

And in my state I need photo ID to buy one and a permit on me to carry.

Proud member of the 53%!
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Dave*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:35pm.

Dave, my friend. Dont stoop to this guys level. We need you calm and safe to continue the fight one troll at a time. Dont go blowing a gasket, we cant afford to lose any real patriots.

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c2, I get what your saying

Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:53pm.

...but I lost the uncle I was named after a few months ago, who was a naval aviator and Skyraider pilot in Korea.

Right now, four rooms away from me, my dad, a Marine who fought in the same war, is little more than a vegetable, as his Alzheimer's is very close to doing him in.

Our country is literally staring it's demise right in the face, and people like this ingrate of an idiot are a big reason reason for it.

Vd can go straight to Hell, for all I care, and take his retarded spawn with him.

As for my gaskets, I'm not all that sure I have any left at this point.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

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c2 understands Dave*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:00pm.

Those of us who are a little older than this troll have all lost someone who made the ultimate sacrifice for the freedoms we take for granted. We appreciate all of those who are still patriots and love our country. We are all angry at the thought of losing the rights our family members died for. We are all angry that these liberal idiots have no sense of value for their freedoms because THEY have never given nor sacrificed anything for those freedoms.
But we must stay disciplined, live by the rules our fathers taught us, we must stay calm but alert. The fight we will soon face will not be the kind our fathers fought. But it will be a new kind of fight. We must prepare, we must gather our friends and neighbors to join with us and we must do so through this new technology. But we cannot lose sight of the big picture. We cannot change our values, our convictions, who we are, if we do, then they win without a shot fired

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~Here ya go, y'all

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:05pm.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m09281Y2pt1qdai8qo1_500.jpg

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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That would make a great screensaver.

Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:08pm.

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~Good idea!

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:29pm.

Now I'm torn between that and the 'Breitbart Is Here' image.

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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Dave, I totally know where

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:03pm.

Dave, I totally know where you're coming from with regards to your father, because I went through the same thing with mine about 5+ years ago, and it's a tough gig. And my baby grandson never flinched throughout the 17 gun salute either, up at Punchbowl!!!

I get a little animated when I'm dealing with morons like Vapid Drip, because it's unfathomable to people like us that somebody can be THAT stupid, clueless, classless, delusional, and uninformed...............but, as you well know, look at about half of our population, look at our Congress, and look at our completely illegal and illegitimate POS so-called 'President'!!!

There's a reason I always say that my father would be rolling over in his grave if he knew what was happening to this country.

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killa,

Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:12pm.

There's a reason I always say that my father would be rolling over in his grave if he knew what was happening to this country.

I am just glad my dad cannot grasp what this communist  Kenyan fraud is doing to this country, as I am pretty sure it would have killed him by now.

Hell, it might even yet kill me.

No joke.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

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Is your comment meant as

Submitted by Schofield Kid on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:41pm.

Is your comment meant as satire? If not you are an imbecile.

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Very Dunce lays claim to

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:59pm.

Very Dunce lays claim to using 'sarcasm', but nobody else seems to get it.

And did he just wonder if someone else would vote in your place??? Naaah...........that wouldn't happen would it?? Not any more than dead people would vote, or felons in jail, or even cartoon charaters.......................and we haven't even started in on the people that vote numerous times.

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How widespread is voter fraud?

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 8:20pm.

Do you have those stats?

How does a cartoon character vote?

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⇒ Or a Snowbird?

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 8:28pm.

Does not meet minimum requirement to qualify as specious!

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~If this guy sticks around, I'm going to invest

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 8:36pm.

in www.lmgtfy.com.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003808207_votefraud27m....

On Monday, Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn's forms "are clearly fraudulent." On Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., ...

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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Bru, this clown(VD) is just a troll.

Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:31pm.

I'm thinking he's a paid Kossak troll, judging by the number of his comments and the lack of depth, thinking and intelligence he's shown.  Either that, or a founder of DU, same level of smarts, same dull writing that one finds over there.  Either way, another lefty moron.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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Fraudelent registered voters dont vote

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:29pm.

Because they're not real people!

Mickey M ouse does not show up at a polling place to cast a vote!

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Whatever you say, Venereal drip

Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:41pm.

Now run along, comrade, as it is time for George Soros to get his wax job, and you know how cranky he can be if he doesn't get it on time.

He might even drop you through the trap door right into the gator pit.

Hope your knee pads are nice and thick, as rug burns can get really dried out and peel this time of year.

And that itching...

-Dave

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Getting obvious now Damaged*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:38pm.

That post above was your worst yet.
How did Mickey Mouse get a ballot? A registrar will tell you, if a M Mouse submits an absentee ballot with a valid address, they must count the ballot. A fraudster does not have to show up at a polling place...

And did you know that anyone can register to vote at any food stamp office???

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For Mickey Mouse to submit a ballot, he has to register

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:43pm.

To register to vote, he needs...wait for it...VOTER ID!

So, yes, Mickey Mouse can fill out registration forms, but Mickey Mouse doesn't get registered to vote! Because he cant show ID!

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For Mickey Mouse to submit a ballot, he has to register

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:43pm.

To register to vote, he needs...wait for it...VOTER ID!

So, yes, Mickey Mouse can fill out registration forms, but Mickey Mouse doesn't get registered to vote! Because he cant show ID!

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Catch up damaged*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:52pm.

Can you think further than an inch?

All you need to commit voter fraud is to have ONE, one crook in the registrars office. THAT is usually the person who goes to jail, not the fraudulent voter. Did you bother to read any of WB's 300Million links? Many of them will explain in great detail how easy and often voter fraud takes place EVERY election. And because every state is different, some still use paper ballots not machines, a myriad number of ways to commit voter fraud has been created..

Those states that use machines, some have contracted out the set up and moving of the voting machines to the polls. Another excellent opportunity for fraud.

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Yup, you're right, Vile

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:38pm.

Yup, you're right, Vile Dork............you really put me in my place with that retort. It's true................there has NEVER been any record of ANY fraudulent voting - EVER - because they AREN'T 'real people' (By the way, are YOU a 'real' person???) And right here, right now, is the FIRST time that anyone has ever even considered the idea of having Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, Elmer Fudd, Adolph Hitler, or other ficticious or cartoon characters voting................and basically ALL voting on the Democrat ticket.
Apparantly I'm just here on an international website spreading rumors.

Hey, VD, the storm here just blew a tree down in my yard, and I'll bet you $10 that the tree is smarter than you are!!!

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If it didnt land on the house

Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:47pm.

It is.

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Hey, meat.............the

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 8:53pm.

Hey, meat.............the cartoon characters vote the same way the dead, the felons, the multiple, and the frauds do...........and, in case this is news to you, you are - as I've said before - either the densist, most delusional, most uninformed person I've ever seen online...............or you're as brainwashed as Boy Barry - whose WHOLE LIFE is a lie - thus, he has no way of knowing the truth, because in his mind, he IS the 'truth'...........and whatever he thinks or says becomes 'the truth'.

Actually,I think you're acting dumb, just for the attention.......................that's a standard troll tactic.

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Venereal Damaged

Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:24pm.

I don't know if you are trying to be a contrarian or just trying to play lawyer. Either way, you really suck the big one.

No stats needed. You know full damn well that people have tried to vote as Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny.

Quit while you are ahead before you make a bigger ass of yourself than you already have.

For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me.  As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.

Ian Anderson "Wind up"

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Trix,

Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:27pm.

Quit while you are ahead before you make a bigger ass of yourself than you already have.

LOL - Is that even possible?

-Dave

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You're confusing registration forms with ballots

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:24am.

Some yahoos tried to fill out fraudulent forms to get paid. But those fraudulent forms dont result in ballots being issued to real people.

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poor damaged*

Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:32am.

Your agenda blinds you to full comprehension ...

What part of "corruption" do you not understand?

Read some of those links on voter fraud. It is quite diverse and creative. MOST of the corruption involved in voter fraud is from WITHIN the system. The bureaucrats responsible are so many and so varied from state to state that it opens numerous avenues for corruption.

Arguing that voter fraud does not occur is rather naive, ill informed, or an imbedded state of denial.

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So, if its in the system

Submitted by Vandamage2000 on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 2:38pm.

Then how does photo ID stop corruption in the system?

I'm trying to understand how the scam works.

Someone dies, and so the fraudsters find out who has just died and is still on the registration rolls, and finds their name and address and shows up to the voting booth, saying they are that person at that address?

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Ignore this troll. He is a confirmed liar and will lie again.

Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 5:01pm.

braindamage2000: So how come when people like Michael Steele and Sarah Palin criticize him, the GOP makes them backtrack?

braindamage2000: When Michael Steele criticized him, the RNC made him apologize.

braindamage2000: ...I can't give you a document that proves that the GOP pressured Steele to apologize to Rush.

Of course he can't. He LIES.

 

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You could stop at 'I'm trying

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 9:00pm.

You could stop at 'I'm trying to understand', meat...............and that's giving you the benefit of the doubt, which you haven't proven that you deserve.

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Sorry to be somewhat vulgar, but, Oh, Bullshit, VD.

Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:05pm.

This is no barrier to voting, THIS is a barrier to voting. 

How about if someone wants to exercise their right to vote, they make the effort to get off the couch and go get a pic taken.  The cost is minimal, and in some states, absent.  You're just afraid that a few elections won't get stolen. 

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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UpNorth

Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:17pm.

Next election we'll be seeing a lot more of that I'm sure. After all, it worked the first time.

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No doubt, Rad, along with the SEIU controlling the voting

Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:26pm.

machines in some states. How convenient for Barry and the dems.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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Why doesn't the Right combat

Submitted by stratman on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 5:00pm.

Why doesn't the Right combat this ridiculousness by listing the places that already have voter ID regulations. They could start with Cuyahoga County, which covers the Greater Cleveland area, a heavily Democrat weighted area with high percentages of Black, Hispanic, Appalachian Whites, and Asian in the city proper. People seem to be able to vote without much of an issue. I guaran-damn-tee if there were a problem that the local rag The Cleveland Plain Dealer,TV, and radio stations would be trumpeting it. They are not. There is no problem.

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Duh

Submitted by CJohnson on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 5:48pm.

Obama has no ID. End of story.

Hakapelita!
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WHAT MADNESS

Submitted by squirefld on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 7:43pm.

Being from Pennsylvania two things caught my eye. One, Republicans want to stop Democratics from voting against them. Yes!! We want the dead Democratics to stop voting and we want the Democrats who are registered under different names in 10 different districts to stop voting against us.

The voting numbers in Philadephia and Pittsburgh may fall in half.

The other "RACIST" comment that was aired was that 25% of blacks don't have or don't know how to get a photo ID.

MSNBC and it's guests are implying that that blacks are so inferior they don't have the intelligence, ability or creativeness to figure out how to get a Photo ID. How "disguisting" this is and MSNBC is now a part of Comcast. Comcast better get on the ball and start rolling some heads.

squirefld
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Well, if the precincts in Detroit would enforce Michigan law,

Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 9:13pm.

the number of democrat voters would drop by about 30K. Yep, there are about 30K more registered voters than there are residents. I wonder what the figure for Chicago is? I'm sure they probably have more dead voters than live, registered voters.

We can thank the National Voter Registration Act, signed by Billy Jeff, for this.  Under that law, election officials have to wait two federal election cycles to purge the rolls of dead, or in Detroit's case, convicted felons.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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OMO! I want to start a poll here....

Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:53pm.

Is VD dumbest troll evah (believing all of the leftist pap?)? ~ Vote 1

Or just another DKos Idjit? ~ Vote 2

I wish I could add an official "poll" here.....

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wait Blonde*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:59pm.

I dont think damaged is that stupid. I think he came here with a pre conceived notion of how easy it would be to debate with a bunch of ignorant, uneducated, racist rednecks..His posts read like he is talking to a kindergarten class, both simplistic and condescending. It shows though, that he is a typical lib troll. Bigoted and full of kool ade.

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LOL, caj

Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 11:07pm.

I think he comes off as a high school freshman.

Wide eyed, bushy tailed, and dumber than dirt!

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I thnk the guy is denser than

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 03/09/2012 - 11:32pm.

I thnk the guy is denser than Brazilian hardwood, and by design. But I also think that he's an attention-craver,and even though he's making a complete moron of himself here, he's reveling in the fact that people are interacting with him, even if they're ridiculing him and disdaining him for being so stupid.

As for myself - I was just about to respond to a totally ignorant answer that he gave to me, but I think it's a dead-end road with this fool, so I'm not dealing with him anymore. Like I said, I've got a downed tree right outside my window that has more sense than ol' Vacant Drip.

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Come on, J. Dirt is way smarter,

Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:36am.

more articulate, and, more than likely, better looking.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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