Matthews Calls West Point, Site of Obama Speech 'The Enemy Camp,' 'Strange Venue'

Matthews Calls West Point, Site of Obama Speech 'The Enemy Camp,' 'Strange Venue'

By Jeff Poor (Bio | Archive)
Tue, 12/01/2009 - 21:28 ET

Either MSNBC "Hardball" host Chris Matthews let one slip tonight, or it was an extremely poor choice of words.

Following President Barack Obama's Dec. 1 speech, which he announced his intentions for increasing troop levels in Afghanistan, MSNBC followed with wrap-up coverage of his speech with arguably three of their most prominent on-air personalities - "Countdown" host Keith Olbermann, "The Rachel Maddow Show" host Rachel Maddow and Matthews.

Matthews referred to a scene from "Gone with the Wind" about the American Civil War as an example of "excitement" going into a war. He said that was lacking in the room during Obama's speech.

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"I think it's true of most wars," Matthews said. "They start with a lot of excitement. I remember the scene in ‘Gone with the Wind' where the rebels are so excited about going to war with the North, a country they can't beat because of its industrial advantage and population advantage. They are going to lose that war eventually."

However, Matthews also said he saw a lot of skepticism among some of the older audience members at West Point, which he called "the enemy camp" and "a strange venue." (emphasis added)

"It seems like in this case, there isn't a lot of excitement," Matthews said. "I watched the cadets, they were young kids - men and women who were committed to serving their country professionally it must be said, as officers. And, I didn't see much excitement. But among the older people there, I saw, if not resentment, skepticism. I didn't see a lot of warmth in that crowd out there. The president chose to address tonight and I thought it was interesting. He went to maybe the enemy camp tonight to make his case. I mean, that's where Paul Wolfowitz used to write speeches for, back in the old Bush days. That's where he went to rabble rouse the "we're going to democratize the world" campaign back in '02. So, I thought it was a strange venue."

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Well,

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 21:43 ET by UpNorth

the cadets were falling asleep, or sitting on their hands. The professional military people were also falling asleep. And why should Matthews be shocked that he saw skepticism, this is a CiC that has used the troops for photo-ops, nothing else. He's denigrated their service in Iraq, which I'm sure really endeared him to the soldiers who've served there.

I'm wondering if Biden managed to write some of the speech, after all we do have the reference to 7-11.

Did Matthews ever refer to Major Hasan as "the Enemy?"

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 23:22 ET by Galvanic

Matthews is known for coming out with some truly stupid statements, but this takes the cake.

If Obama-worshipper Matthews believes that young American men and women -- sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States and obey the orders of our President -- are the Enemy, he's a genuine ass. These men and women are the creme of their generation, and Matthews sees them as the Enemy.

Of course, being a genuine ass is a prerequisite for employment on MSNBC, so his job is in no jeopardy. But he has unwittingly reaffirmed the anti-military attitude that lies just beneath the surface of the Left's empty gestures of "respect for our people in uniform.".

His show should be renamed "Screw Ball." No, better yet, "The Ass Matthews Show."

I agree with you Galvanic

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 02:50 ET by rockyracoon

I agree with you Galvanic that, that was a truly stupid statement by Chrissy Tinkles. Who would've ever thought that a man with a TV show would refer to our Military as the enemy? It stands to reason why Tinkle's show has such low ratings. But I respectfully disagree with you on it "taking the cake," as it were. As long as Tinkles has his own show, he will continue to top himself.

Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.

This piece of crap...

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 09:48 ET by Patriot II

should be loaded up and thrown on a slow freighter bound for kenya....when he gets there, he can tell them he is the official ass kisser of oblahma, the one....and he is preparing for his return to his birthplace!!! I hope scum like this enjoy their slavery under socialism...because these ignorant bast-rds aren't smart enough to know that the media are the first "enemies of the state" to be disposed of.~" read your history moron, if you can read!!!!

I agree, Gal....

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 06:58 ET by motherbelt

Matthew shows his a$$ on a regular basis.

But this was a Freudian slip: referring to West Point as the enemy camp.

That is how a lot of liberals feel about our military.

Which explains how Navy SEALS end up being court-martialed for using "excessive force" on a real enemy combatanat.

Additional point:

Matthews referred to a scene from "Gone with the Wind" about the
American Civil War as an example of "excitement" going into a war. He
said that was lacking in the room during Obama's speech.

Only idiots and bloodthirsty SOB's are excited about going to war.

The blowhards in GWTW were the former.

"That is how a lot of libs

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 08:15 ET by Jer

"That is how a lot of liberals feel about our military.

Which explains how Navy SEALS end up being court-martialed for using "excessive force" on a real enemy combatant."

Well, a lot of libs and Democrats, including me, do not feel that way about our military. And Matthews' statement was ludicrous and offensive.

Now, apparently I'm not supposed to bring up inconvenient facts concerning Republicans such as the following similar incident involving the court martial of a Navy SEAL during the previous administration, but I'll just have to live with the consequences. [I posted the link on Bozell's thread, too.]

Jer

a lot of libs and

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 09:21 ET by motherbelt

a lot of libs and Democrats, including me, do not feel that way about our military

What's your point? I didn't say "all" I said "a lot of." I was careful not to tar all liberals.

And regarding your citing of a similar incident while Bush was in office: again, what's your point? That it happened under a Republican President? I was talking about "liberals" in general, like Matthews, not President Obama. Was the entire military chain of command conservative/Republican while Bush was CinC?

Either way, it stinks. Having it happen under a Republican president doesn't change that.

The command structure of the military is awash in political correctness, as shown by Brig.Gen. Casey's comment that a loss of diversity would be an added tragedy on top of Maj. Hasan's murderous rampage.

Now, apparently I'm not supposed to bring up inconvenient facts concerning Republicans..[ ]..I'll just have to live with the consequences.
Who the heck ever said you can't bring things up? As far as I know, anyone can bring up anything. As for "living with the consequences" (whatever you think they are), I'm sure you'll survive.

the incident

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 09:33 ET by kdizzydaze

you link to was about a captive that had died at the hands of the Navy Seal while being interrogated at Abu Grhaib. Given the state of affairs at that time in 2005 and the outcry from the MSM and sheeple that follow them, the court martial had to take place. Also, since they killed the friggin' guy, something had to be done regardless.

Comparing that with this latest group of Navy SEAL's who, in the heat of the moment of capturing a POS terrorist, beat him up and you come up with two complettely different scenarios. Any real leader would've done what Bush did in the first case, but only a lib douche administration would've pulled this crap in the second scenario.

You know in listening to Obamabi's speech last night (or at least what little I could get through) I found that all of his speeches consist of three major components:

Component 1: Blame Bush or the past administration for a transgression or error in judgment as the main reason for your speech or decision you are speaking in regards to.

Component 2: Be somewhat concilliatory in a condescending way, as if the past administration did not know what they were doing. But that you do.

Component 3: No matter what the speech, what you (the current CiC) are doing is "unprecedented".

Pretty much sums it up. I also see a great game of bullshit bingo once we start pulling from the myriad of buzz words the prez uses in his historic speeches

kdizzydaze..

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 09:50 ET by Jer

Please show me where in the article I linked concerning the Navy SEAL lieutenant who had punched an enemy insurgent in the arm was charged and tried by court martial for the subsequent death of the prisoner while in CIA custody. Maybe I overlooked it.

Thanks.

Jer

it was right in the second

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 12:58 ET by kdizzydaze

it was right in the second paragraph. The punching of the arm was merely one part of the overall. That is what I pulled from it. The issue of possible court martial, etc had to do with the eventual murder of the detainee/POW during "questioning" (read - interrogation).

My point was that charging someone with the murder of a detainee/POW is a bit different than charging someone for injuries inflicted on an enemy combatant while that combatant is being captured on the battlefield.

Perhaps I read it wrong. Please advise if so.

Genuine Ass? Please!

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 07:47 ET by GeneralAl

Please don't refer to Matthews as a genuine ass! A genuine ass is a humble beast of burden! I liken Chrissy to a Vulture! A Vulture is a carnivorous bird who waits for you do dies so it can eat your flesh! That is Chrissy Matthews!

Obummer

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 21:43 ET by creekrat

Obummer is so far in over his head..............God help us !!

Imagine if a conservative

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 21:45 ET by Guapo Diablo

Imagine if a conservative had said this...

If Bill O'Reilly had said

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 21:55 ET by Mr. Mike

If Bill O'Reilly had said this all hell would have broken loose in the MSM. But, the apology would have been asked to be made to Obama not the West Point cadets!

Matthews is the scum under the scum at the bottom of the cess pool. I really should not be surprised.

Chrissy should be forced to

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 21:47 ET by d1carter

Chrissy should be forced to apologize to West Point, each and every cadet and to the American people for such a dumb remark. Even for MSNBC that one was over the line.

Way over the line.

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:31 ET by Thoreau

Way over the line.

Mathew's is a twisted mofo

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 21:54 ET by smgx

Mathew's is a twisted mofo

Olbermann, Maddow and Matthews

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 21:57 ET by Paragrouper

The New Adventures of the Three Stooges.

"Beware the fury of the patient man." - John Dryden

OMG....

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:01 ET by supercon

I said the same thing too. It's because it was so freakin' obvious and such and easy and obvious comparison.

" if Republicans are able to stop Barack Obama on health care, 'it will be his Waterloo, it will break him...." -Sen. Jim DeMint

Can someone please tell Chris....?

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 21:59 ET by supercon

Gone With The Wind was a movie. Not a documentary. It was absurd for him to compare it with reality. To be honest it looked like he was on medication and rightly so. His big hero the tingle master,Barack Obama was actually talking about success in Afghanistan and Chrissie couldn't take it.

I actually watched that segment myself and It was painful to see all three stooges on one panel. Maddow, Olbermann and Matthews. It looked like a funeral over there as they could not believe that Obama was actually bragging about America's prowess in times of war. I'm not kidding. Matthews look like he was going into shock and Maddow was desperately trying to find something positive out of something that was breaking her heart. It was funny. Matthews crack about the "enemy camp" was so insightful because he was just being honest and you know Obama thinks like he does in private but must pretend he is proud of the military in public. Obama despises the military as all lefties do. Obama had to give a speech in front of a group of young people who will actually change the world for the better with courage, sacrifice and commitment instead of giving a speech in front of all the free loading ACORN bums who think they change the world by by shaking down the rich and giving it to crack heads on the street. Obama could never stand as an equal among those fine men and women and they knew it and so did he.

His speech was a flop.

" if Republicans are able to stop Barack Obama on health care, 'it will be his Waterloo, it will break him...." -Sen. Jim DeMint

Who's Chris Matthews?

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:02 ET by Scottyb4292

I don't know if I can possibly persuade everyone on this, but isn't it about time that we just ignore Chris Matthews until he and his station understand that he's not worth commenting on or watching or paying to do a show?

The man is such a sad, pathetic and hateful creature.

Let's get together on the same game plan so that he will just GO AWAY!

I'm With You

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:12 ET by miss911ninja

Anyone who's speaking about the Civil War and refers to the North as "a country" deserves to be ignored. I'm with you!

100% Agree

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:12 ET by countmein5050

Way ahead of you....poke me with a fork...I was done with Matthews at 'tingly up my leg' and nothing I've heard since convinces me I might have been wrong. He is waste of skin.

Amen.

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:19 ET by Red Jeep

Amen.

I'm with you Scotty...

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 08:50 ET by Poljunk

if we ignore this pathetic jackass, maybe, just maybe he'll go away! I have this vision of Matthew ending up as the most irrelevant mouth piece in modern history! let's make it happen sooner rather than later

Chrissy uses a revealing...

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:06 ET by PrairieSky

choice of words in his comments in reference to the military and the cadets at West Point...

"enemy camp"..."rabble rouse"... and "strange venue"...

So...Tingles thinks that West Point is the enemy camp, full of rabble rousers, and is a strange venue...Isn't that nice?

What an ass...Matthews really has lost it. His stupidity was on full view tonight with this latest display of his diarrhea of the mouth.

Somebody, please...Shut this idiot up already.

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

It is indeed odd.

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 04:02 ET by JWF

Set aside his poor choice of words in using a military term to describe a military institution.

Chris Matthews thinks West Point is a Republican stronghold? Possibly even our entire military is Republican? Words escape me. Our military serves under whatever party is elected President. The idea that the military belongs to one party is absurd and indeed revealing of the mindset of people like Matthews.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Excellent observation, Vet...

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 08:56 ET by Jer

"Our military serves under whatever party is elected President. The idea that the military belongs to one party is absurd and indeed revealing of the mindset of people like Matthews."

Jer

EPIC FAIL!!

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:09 ET by Blonde

All the way around.

Obama looked so scared his eyes were wet and on the verge of crying the whole time. He couldn't believe there was no applause. He looked like he was ready to bolt every time he paused for an applause line that never resulted in applause. He looked like he was ready to break down in tears at any second.

I am SHOCKED that he didn't invoke Douglas MacArthur, or any of the other great American leaders who went through the forge of West Point.

My prediction.....the dithering was well placed. Because he knew this speech and this silly "policy" or whatever that bunch of blather was about is going to cost him a 10 point drop in the polls. He was trying to stem the tide of angry opposition, to shove this nasty health care nonsense and Cap and Tax down our throats.

If anyone has any doubts....compare and contrast anything or any time President Bush visited troops to today's little exercise in photo opportunities.

Even Hillary didn't look enthused. The only people in the audience who looked the least bit engaged were the senior officers who thought there may be a promotion opportunity by clapping.

Pathetic. That's the only word in the lexicon. For this speech. For this strategy. For this person who inhabits the Oval Office and pretends to be a war time Commander in Chief.

I hope he fails, too.

Blonde...You got that right!

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:20 ET by PrairieSky

Couldn't have said it better...

As I watched "O" tonight, I found myself thinking for the umpteenth time, "I just can't believe that this yutz is really the president"...He doesn't act like a president, he doesn't talk like a president, and he certainly doesn't lead like a president...He's playing "let's pretend"...

Heaven help us all...

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

I hear you

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 23:42 ET by Arminius

I was at the VA Hospital in Topeka this morning and saw Obama's photo in a frame where Bush's photo used to be. It just didn't look right. I don't ever believe I will be able to see the man-child as our president.

Arminius...Yep...He just doesn't fit...

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 00:08 ET by PrairieSky

does he? I believe that every president has to grow into the job, but there is just something about Obama...He just doesn't seem to be able to do that...It's like with Clinton, only worse. They both just seem(ed) to be pretending to act like they think the president should look and act...Neither of these two men ever belonged as president, and it shows in virtually everything they've both done and said.

1070 days till election day 2012...And counting.

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

Watching Him Squirm

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:23 ET by miss911ninja

Thanks, Blonde, for the description of how the man child looked when applause was not forthcoming. I forced myself to listen to the speech from the kitchen while the TV was on in the living room. I try to avoid watching and listening to him at the same time, which is hard to take. But in this case I would have enjoyed watching him squirm!

Watching him squirm

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 09:05 ET by Spike72AFA

As I've said elsewhere, Cadets are natural BS detectors. When you are pulled out of study time for a mandatory formation to be the styrofoam marble columns for a photo op, that does not engender enthusiasm...

This was another unforced error on the part of the WH. I watched it and kept asking, "what good reason could he have had to go to West Point?" Couldn't come up with one.

Nice summary, Blonde

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:29 ET by Texndoc

Like others, I have a physical revulsion to even watch him speak. But the snippets I saw (and they were brief) seemed to always have a young cadet yawning and a quick cut away. One shot I saw of a very much older man staring at the ceiling with his head back rather than looking forward at the speaker.

Well said, Blonde

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 23:47 ET by KC Mulville

This is what he told the troops:

The war is crucial
But you've got only 18 months to win it, because it costs so much, and we need to fund healthcare at home

Whose war is it?

We didn't ask for this war; they attacked us, and they're concocting attacks on us from there everyday
But the way to win it is to rely on opium-soaked locals to step up and fight for their country, because it's really their fight.

How about an enthusiastic call to fight?

I didn't want this war
The Bush people blew it
I don't have any money to fund it
I'm going to call it quits in 18 months anyway

Yeah ... he owes it to them to give them the best strategy possible. Right. This was it? Right.

I'll be leaving for Ireland any day now. This party's over.

I just wish I had J's flair for subtle, yet powerful words

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 23:57 ET by R D Helm

I came up in a decidedly different environment, which required the frequent use of the direct, in-your-face, as well as the occasional FU approach.

I realize that is not a little off-putting for some, but for me, there really is just no other way.

-And I excelled at English in college, too. All five courses, even. :-(

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.

West Point before MSNBC

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:11 ET by octavioj

I would go to West Point any day before stepping into MSNBC.

Shouldn't Be Suprised

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:17 ET by countmein5050

And I'm not...Matthew has marginalized almost 50% of the voters since day one...why should any one be shocked and dismayed that he now marginalizes the very population of our country who fight and risk their lives daily so that another 50% of the voters can mock and taunt them? Very sad...very sad day. Really, this should fly under the banner of hate speech...and come with criminal charges.

I was in a meeting this

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:18 ET by BKeyser

I was in a meeting this evening so I did not see the speech. Listening to Matthews, it sounded as though this was one of the less "hand-picked" crowds that Barry likes to have as backdrop.

Yet, the first article I saw on the subject once I got home was an AP story by Steven R. Hurst and Darlene Superville which contained this little gem, less than a third of the way into the piece:

After the speech, cadets in the audience — some of whom could end up in
combat because of Obama's decision — climbed over chairs to shake hands
with their commander in chief and take his picture.

I'm wondering why Tingles didn't pick up on that chummy feeling...

Shark! Jump!

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:24 ET by Texndoc

This may be the turning point for Tingles. His global warming e-mails moment. His jump the shark. Who on the right isn't going to run with this tomorrow? Someone wake Drudge.

For a liberal who hates

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:46 ET by rbosque

For a liberal who hates what America stands for and supports our nation's enemies, that would be an enemy camp.

P!ss on Matthews.

Guess Obama should have went to UC Berkeley or Camp Casey

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:47 ET by OxyCon

What a moron!

Like I said in a previous comment, Obama should have chosen Gettysburg or Valley Forge for such a magnanomous speech. With Obama, the event location always has to be as grand as he is (in his own mind). I'm surpised he didn't get on a long boat and give the speech while crossing the Delaware river.

Finally, You Say It Like It Is, Chrissy!

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 22:49 ET by rammingspeed

Matthews is a fully blossomed fanatic. He went crazy for years not getting his way, and once Obama and all the Democrats were elected in '08, he came to think he can say anything he wants, with impunity. The insanity we all knew was there is now being explicitly expressed. It will be his road to ruin.

Well, this helps

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 23:03 ET by Free Stinker

Well, this helps explain why General Electric is considering selling their NBC unit.

خال

I hope Murdoch buys it and

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 23:28 ET by pwoz

I hope Murdoch buys it and shuts it down.

Jeff, I feel sorry for you

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 23:07 ET by Scout Finch

And any other Newsbuster staff that have to actually watch Chrissy and report back to us.

To think that the very same people he considers "enemy camp" would fight to defend his right to announce his inane comments on network TV.... {{{shudder}}}

Deleted

Tue, 12/01/2009 - 23:49 ET by R D Helm

Hell, if I am going to get banned again, I'll be damned if it's going to be on a Prissy Chrissy thread.

The excitement of barack obama and the buffoon christine mathews

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 00:16 ET by NotFondOfLibs

The reason there were no responses during obama's speech is because he delivered it with all the excitement of a statistician giving a review on porta potties in a parking lot. obama showed no leadership qualities at all. On the other hand, mathews was his usual inept, stupid self who has more animosity toward Republicans than Al Queda and the Taliban. If mathews were any creepier, Halloween could be changed to his birthday.

Matthews uses a movie,

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 00:27 ET by DoktorFranken

Matthews uses a movie, ‘Gone with the Wind', as an example of war ''excitement'' pertaining to real life? Caution: Alien Life-Form Alert!

And Chrissy is as ignorant as the tingle up his leg if he doesn't realize that the president (well, maybe not this one) is the Commander in Chief of the military. How could any part of the U.S. military possibly be ''the enemy camp''?

It's times like these that prove Dr. Krauthammer's diagnoses of the Left.

Sarah Palin: The Most Dangerous Conservative In America

I had the same reaction Dok

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 04:06 ET by BKeyser

Gone With the Wind? How far removed from reality do you have to be when the only connection you can make between a 2009 America in a war with Islamic extremists in the other hemisphere, is a Hollywood love story set on the backdrop of a 150+ year old war in the United States?

And as far as the military being the enemy, I think that to a lefty, that is undoubtedly the case. But even more specifically for this president, anyone (in America) not fawning over him is the real enemy. Islamic extremists are merely the yet to be converted.

We don't clap in the millitary.

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 00:42 ET by JWF

There is plenty of speechifying by the upper ranks. You don't clap in ceremonies. You don't even cough. We are taught to suppress it. You wanna clap or cough, do it on your own time.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

MSNBC's 3 Stooges would

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 00:45 ET by marvl

MSNBC's 3 Stooges would hardly know anything about war. So Matthews gets his information from a 70 year old period civil war romance film? That's about what I'd expect from a liberal moron without the organs needed to reproduce.

It's Chrissiee..

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 01:05 ET by OldJoe

Whattdya expect???

From the fourth estate to the fifth column..

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 01:07 ET by OldJoe

THAT's our mainstream media. A bunch of hateful hacks. Stop watching and stop subscribing.

Hey Chris Matthews....

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 01:14 ET by Barker

I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death my right to verbally beat the living hell out of you for saying it.

"I think it's true of

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 04:38 ET by Jack Bauer

"I think it's true of most wars," Matthews said. "They start with a lot of excitement. I remember the scene in ‘Gone with the Wind' where the rebels are so excited about going to war with the North

So Scarlett O'Matthews bases his twitterings on movies written by screenwriter and acted by actors reading fiction.

2010: Mayans predicted it. Science confirms it. The end of the Democrat's world.
Nov 2, 2010 - a polling booth near you.

Chrissy Poo

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 06:03 ET by NavyBuckeye

A better choice for refrence:

"Starship Troopers". The soldiers were so excited to go to war in that movie as well. Their excitement wained just like in this real life war. I know it's about fighting aliens but if you are going to compare real life to Hollywood...you might as well go all the way. Plus in this movie the enemy also hides underground and in the mountains.

I'm so glad that I was grouting the new bathroom tile last night instead of watching this debacle. Who can handle all three:

Tingles, Man Boy and Bathroom Boy all on the same set. Ehhh...I shudder just thinking about it.

He meant poilitically

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 06:31 ET by Norto

which is correct, but still a terrible analogy. If any cadet would watch him, they may or may not get the subtlety of that but it would still hurt.

Did he say 7/11? MacArthur is my hero, just read "American Caesar," by Manchester. Frustrating read, because the author was just like all the other liberals of the time who could not decide if they liked Doug or not.

Matthews needs a bloody lip

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 07:21 ET by gregfahey

Courtesy of the Navy SEALs on trial for capturing terrorist Ahmed Hashim Abed.

No doubt, to him, they are the enemy.

completely ignorant

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 08:12 ET by Libertydude

What would this momma's boy ever know about war. Just what the libs wrote?

This momma's boy wouldn't know or understand the struggles of being in the military.

And him trying to get his head out of butt is not a struggle, just genetics

strange venue

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 08:13 ET by spepper

well CM got one thing right-- it was a strange venue for this president-- then again, any military-related backdrop for this guy, is strange-- in other words, the West Point Military Academy itself isn't strange-- until certain people show up there for photo-op's--

and a newsflash for CM: that "enemy camp" you speak of, has produced certain people that have made the ultimate sacrifice in order for you to live free--

Have you ever had the occasion-

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 08:18 ET by JIMMY1660

to meet or do business with a graduate of any of Military Academy?

Those young faces may deceive you-they are disciplined confident warriors-Once they graduate, have done their tour of active service and enter the private sector, they are some of the smartest most reliable folks on the planet.They get an education in the most strict disciplines.

Unlike most who graduate from schools Matthews would look in favor of.

What an ignorant SOB

BHO- THE PROGRESSIVE PIRATE

Cadets know

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 08:57 ET by Spike72AFA

As a graduate of USAFA, I can tell you that cadets have the most finely tuned BS detectors on the planet. Add to that the "mandatory formation" of getting lectured by a commander in chief who sees you as a distraction from his real job, and there is no wonder you had cadets sleeping, texting and reading (I saw them all).

All Chris Matthews did was let what he was thinking get past the lips. No real surprise. But it is sad and shocking when you think that during a time of real war, the folks who are feeding us the news can be so wrong about who the enemy really is.

Spike

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 09:33 ET by Blonde

I got to thinking about Obama's affect last night, and the total lack of response from the Corps of Cadets. Your comment, above, says it all.

So....I decided to hit Youtube, and what to my wondering eyes did appear....a speech by President Bush. It's not dated, but the references to Bush's last visit, Gen. Petraeus, and COIN doctrine lead me to believe it was shortly before Bush left office.

Compare and contrast. The difference in the reaction to their CIC's words is night and day. Bush's intro was all about his audience, not about himself.

Unfortunately, Obama refuses to learn any lessons at all from his predecessor....and continues to vilify and blame him for anything and everything. I truly hope the audience reaction to his speech shakes him to his core (I thought he looked bloody shakey last night, on the verge of tears at the lack of love).....but he's too vain to get it. I can't wait until his nightmare presidency is over. I felt nothing but sorrow for those poor captive cadets last night, having to sit there politely and listen to someone who so openly loathes everything they stand for. Duty. Honor. Country.

I hope he fails, too.