If you're curious to see how the mainstream Washington, D.C. press views the global warming debate, Newsweek's Eleanor Clift may have tipped off the public off.
On the Nov. 29 edition of "The McLaughlin Group," host John McLaughlin asked about the prospects of a Copenhagen climate change treaty and its possible impact on the U.S. economy. MSNBC and "The McLaughlin Group" regular Pat Buchanan gave some spot-on analysis on global warming alarmist about former Vice President Al Gore and how it pertains to the climate change issue.
"Well, I don't think it's going to have any impact, John, because I don't think it's going to get through the United States Senate," Buchanan said. "And there's a reason for that John, and that's Al Gore's moment has come and gone. The truth is they're changing the name to climate change rather than global warming for a reason."
Buchanan pointed to several anecdotal examples of not global warming, but global cooling and that this issue won't get much traction during economic downtime.
For 10 years, the earth has been cooling - 1998 or so was the hottest year. The polar bear population is doing fine. Antarctica is growing, the ice cap is growing. The Arctic ice cap has stopped shrinking. You take a look around the United States, you're having record cold trends and you got this tremendous real problem in the American economy as opposed to this mythical problem of global warming."
The real reason behind this global warming scare according to Buchanan is to reshape the global power structure.
And for these reasons John, I think it's not going to get through the Senate and I think the, as I say, Al Gore's moment has passed. This whole thing was a bit of a hoax designed to transfer power from individuals and wealth to governments and from governments to trans-national, international corporations, global institutions. And that time has come and it has gone."
Later in the show, Buchanan reiterated his point that global warming wasn't going on and said there was no proof that any of the warming that has occurred in recent history was caused by man.
"It was warming, John," Buchanan said. "It's not been warming since '98. Secondly, there's no known proof it's because of man and there's no known proof it's a great danger."
However, Clift felt inclined to responded, rather emphatically. She said she believes U.S. policy should be proactive toward the issue. Her view is arguably indicative of the mainstream media's sentiment on the debate, and she equated it to blind faith when she told Buchanan there's no proof there's a God either, which didn't mean global warming wasn't a danger.
"It's no known proof there's God, either. How much proof do you need, Pat?" Clift replied. "Oh, it is a danger. It's a danger in many places."
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I bet the real reason
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 22:57 ET by 10ksnookerIs it's a fraud from the start.
Very Simple
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:40 ET by countmein5050Now the liberals have a religion...finally. Global Warming. For years they've harped on separation of church and state to justify tossing out anything that is connected to religion where government is concerned. Well, they've declared Climate Change to be their leap of faith. So why is the government funding a religious based movement? It's on record by empty headed liberals that science is no longer the engine that moves this train wreck...it's faith. Faith that something dangerous is lurking and now, as a government, we all have to fund their religion. We've just nailed them to their own phony cross.
amazing how fast it changed
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:48 ET by Candance MooreWe've gone from "the science is settled" to "prove there's no God" in less than a month.
And speaking of God, praise the Lord for all the skeptics who held in there against persecution. It would have been easy for the entire scientific community to fold. We could be just like Europe and have Cap and Trade over us already.
Good point, 5050
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 00:58 ET by GalvanicFor years, many of us on this site have observed the 'religious' aspects of AGW.
1- The "science" cannot be challenged; "The debate is over," according to Gore; the story must be accepted as Truth.
2- The high priests (Gore, IPCC, Greens) dictate new rules for living under AGW
3- Carbon-credits = indulgences; the wealthy advocates can 'buy' their way out of the restrictions posed by the new rules
4- Indoctrination beginning with the very young; DVDs of "An Inconvenient Truth" handed out to schools for free and presented as 'science'
5- Skeptics are ridiculed and shunned as "flat-earthers" and worse
Now our good friend Eleanor Clift has taken it one step further: equating faith in AGW with faith in God. Amen, Clift! So much for "peer reviewed science." Clift now calls on us to believe.
Global Warming Bombshell
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 08:56 ET by ThisnThatScientists at the University of East Anglia have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
Now it really is based upon faith. LOL.
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"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
I like the next graf....
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 09:26 ET by motherbeltIt means that other academics
are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise
in temperature over the past 150 years.
Gosh, I guess they'll just have to "take it on faith" then.....LOL
weren't?.........
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 09:02 ET by Timothy HWere not the "flat-earthers" the one's with the "consensus" that made it OK to ridicule those who protested? Maybe I'm just forgetting my history. Hmmmmmm...........
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
they can't have it both ways
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 13:01 ET by doug1950From the beginning, the GW crowd has pushed "scientific fact" in our faces about Global Warming. Now we find out (actually we knew all along) their facts are not real but conceived and fudged to make it fit or work for their agenda. Now, that the "facts" have been revealed to be phoney and not factual at all, they suddenly want all of us to suddenly believe by "faith". First and foremost, I would never take anything these people say on faith. They snort and giggle when someone would comment that their faith in God may be more truthful and believeable than all their science data. This is akin to the old switch and bait tactic. Their first line of defense has been blown up, now they sudden got "faith" from somewhere because before they had none and in fact had scorn for anyone who demonstrates faith. This is their religion but it is nothing but a cardboard storefront, catering to the wimpy, crunchy grenola crowd who are followers, not leaders or anyone able to think for themselves. All one has to do is go back and watch Ed Begley to see how much this is disturbing him and his kind. They bought into this lie, bet their whole lives on it and now find out it is a midget with a megaphone behind the curtain.
Q.E.D.
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 13:38 ET by Ten7sThe Warmists have the burden of proof. And so far, all they've proved is that they are scoundrels masquerading as scientists promoting a HOAX masquerading as science.
Re burden of proof
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 15:00 ET by slickwillie2001Absolutely, and level of proof. Let's compare for example the level of detail required for an application for a new drug to the FDA with what the warmists have submitted. Yet the exposure to the theory of AGW is hundreds of times that of a single drug, in terms of human lives as well as dollars.
We need to establish similar guidelines for any theory that demands we spend hundreds of billions of dollars before we go a millimeter further.
"Now the liberals have a religion."
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 09:07 ET by needleWell, it is about time; especially considering that Liberals have clung bitterly to their supreme sacrament of abortion for many years now.
- Relying upon the State Run Media for your information is like relying upon an embezzler for your portfolio management.
- I didn't leave the Republican Party; the Republican Party left me.
Religion
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 10:14 ET by misterbee241It has its false prophet - Al "The Groundhog" Gore, it has its holy book - An Incovenient Truth, and it has its true believers, among them every liberal and socialist in the country and that includes that crazy old woman Eleanor Clift. She was nuts when she was on the McLaughlin Group and she still is. All it needs is a coming Messiah - oh - wait - that's MMM, MMM, MMM Barack Hussein Obama, MMM, MMM, MMM.
"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."
Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941
The Cry of the Truly Desperate
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:03 ET by DaMamaEleanor Clift has got to be one of the best known bubble heads on TV, right behind Joy Behar and Martha Stewart.
When you can't refute and argument, then go right for the "there's no proof that God exists". The battle cry of the truly desperate.
What better way to ignore the question at hand - just change the subject! Clift knows darn well that the jig is up regarding this whole global warming debacle. It's never been true, and now it's being proven and these liberals just don't know what to do with themselves. So let's go after God - I'm sure He won't mind!
"Clift knows darn well..."
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:18 ET by The_Barrel_GuyDaMama --
With any number of other left-side noisemakers, I might agree that they know darned well... In the case of Eleanor Clift, I think your original line is totally accurate: she is a bubble head...
To slightly modify a quote attributed to Harry Truman about Dwight Eisenhower long ago, "Eleanor Clift know as much about global warming as a pig knows about Sunday."
I am convinced that the only way she finds her way to the various TV studios where she appears is an intelligent and faithful chauffer in her limo.
Finally, not only is her appeal to the idea that there is no proof that God exists a sign of desperation, but also it is a clear admission that her belief in global warming is not based on good science but rather an act of faith...
Eleanor Clift's religion....
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:24 ET by motherbeltThat is exactly what I was going to say: she is saying that belief in global warming is an act of faith, similar to believing in God.
Believing in God does not
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:32 ET by d1carterBelieving in God does not cost trillions of dollars. God is free.
God had something to say about Global Warming
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 14:37 ET by doug1950"As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease."
Gen 8:22
Clift has pictures to prove
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 00:10 ET by Dan DiegoClift has pictures to prove her GOD (AL Gore) is real.
bubble head no...
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 09:21 ET by OuttaMyWaybut lack of logic, yes. This has been mentioned many times by commentators of the talk radio variety and on here. i have listened to her since she first starting appearing on that show. She apparently can write well, or at least critic well since she is has "editor" in her title...
ok, so i was going to say something about how people at her level did work hard to get there blah blah blah... but then i realized, my wife has a subscription to newsweek, and i scan through them in "my office". She really does not contribute that much to the mag compared to everyone else that is employed there.
i think if i pulled that little weight around my office, it would not be good for my career, unless it is based on her liberal dogma that she spouts. Plus being on a conservative show weekly, she probably gets a liberal danger pay bonus, because no one else wants to do it!!
The next thing you will see...
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:19 ET by ingram207...is the Chewbacca Defense. It's too bad Johnnie Cochran is dead, because the liberals could really use him right now...
name change
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:13 ET by seventhe name changing is the game changer
It was
global warming and changed to climate change.
Now it Climate data change. We have no reason to trust their numbers. We will have no choice but to reject their predictions.
The perfect perpetual crisis
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:14 ET by ThisnThatThe left needs global warming, climate change, or whatever they will change the name to in the future. It's the perfect perpetual crisis, as Clift has let on. "It may not be warming now, but it could in the future. Or it could start cooling. Or it might be variable, unpredictable. Whatever the case -- we have to be prepared. Somehow. It's a crisis. We need money. And it's too big for just one country -- this REQUIRES W O R L D A T T E N T I O N".
And they don't care how looney this sounds. They ARE the MSM. And they have spoken. And they can attach themselves to world power behind people like Gore and his fraudulant scientists.
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"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
Excuse Me??
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:14 ET by Calypso JonesTHAT's relevant, HOW?
How could it not be relevant...
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 00:54 ET by Trickletown...when it concerns the invisible man in the sky who is reading every thought that crosses your mind and judges you on it. Wake up!
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If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
Not to worry
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:19 ET by octaviojMs. Clift, you need not worry. God will forgive you for doubting Him and replacing Him with environmentalism. All you have to do is repent. As for climate change still there is much to be studied before we claim the human race is doing it and if there is anything the human race can do to stop it.
Speaking of Global Cooling ...
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:26 ET by metaphorsbwithuI get a cold chill everytime Eleanor Clift speaks.
That's something positive, I guess.
metaphorsbwithu
Her religion was attacked so she goes after his
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:27 ET by ApacheWell the right tends to be much more tolerant of a belief in God. While the left tends to replace a belief in god with a belief that humans are all powerful. Some more than others at that. So AGW is a perfect religion for the left. You have the all powerful human responsible for global climate change and the only answer is a larger and more powerful nanny state government. So Buccanan is attacking her religion so she of course responds by attacking his. But I'm sure Buchanan will readily admit his religion is based on faith while she would never admit her religion is based on faith. She would rather believe the ponzi scheme is real science. As they say, fake but accurate.
Where's the proof?
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:27 ET by pbthinkerSo, Clift says "It's a danger in many places." based on what? Based on the faulty science? Based on Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth, which is based on the faulty science? So the climate alarmists have been successful at alarming the skeptical media, or at least that's what they're supposed to be. Isn't that special?
I don't know about anyone else, but the press is, once again, digging themselves a hole. They're avoiding this thing, for what reason it's hard to say, but the Brits are really into it. If, as I believe is going to happen, Copenhagen blows up because no one is going to commit to anything until the science is straightened out, people are going to ask questions about why they didn't know what was going on.
All these people have to do is their jobs. The Democrats can protect themselves, hell they lie all the time so we're used to it. Let the press do the job our founders wanted them to do, ironically, they refuse to do it. Do we really need a 1st amendment to protect the propagandists? No, we need it to protect the internet, talk radio, and Fox News, which this President is trying to silence.
How soon before Glenn Beck is drawing 5 million views at 5 o'clock? The MSM is allowing the Democrats to control the news they're supposed to be highlighting and Fox News isn't getting a piece of that action, thank God. So there are few places to go to get the real news, but people are finding it.
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
"Skeptical media"
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 15:21 ET by Quasi-socialist"Skeptical media" should be in quotes: "'skeptical media'".
Let the Dinosaur media pat
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:28 ET by bse5150Let the Dinosaur media pat themselves on the back while the circle the wagons.
In the meantime folks, let's get to work putting this scandal out there the way we had to do ACORN over the summer.
I've fired off letters to my Congressman and Senators. I'm hitting all the blogs I can find and telling everyone I know.
So she is basically saying
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:30 ET by MaximusBraveheartSo she is basically saying it IS a Religion... lol. We already knew that! M-B
Questions for Eleanor Clift
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:33 ET by motherbeltIf you really think that we have screwed up the earth's climate, and that we can fix it:
How much climate "change" is too much? What's too warm? Too cold?
What if we over-react to warming and instead make it too cold?
What is the "ideal" climate range that we should be shooting for and how do we maintain that? When the warming stops, who decides when it's cool enough, and at what point are we another "climate change crisis point" where we should start trying to warm things up again?
Should we form a committee to make these decisions?
motherbelt - I'm sure the president will hold a seminar and let
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:48 ET by Cape Conservativeeveryone break off into little groups to come back later in the day with their reports. Which will then be discarded because no one really cares about anything other than 'feelings'.
Just think of the billions (trillions?) of dollars spent on this hoax. To universities for study grants and to textbook writers - who is now going to revise all of that false information being fed to our school children? What about the horrific expenses companies have had to endure due to complying with stupid laws made because of this fabricated data? Do you suppose the governator will still demand no big screen tv's in California now? Are they still going to regulate everyone's home thermostat settings?? Can we go back to having a decent-sized, SAFE vehicle now?
Anyone with any common sense knew all along this entire global warming gobblygook was FALSE! I want to hear Al Gore's take on the expose. But isn't it interesting...he is NO WHERE to be found! LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE fits the situation very well.
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butterscotch pudding
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:37 ET by Candance MooreSooo whose side is it now that is acting like an ostrich, blinding following what their leaders tell them while the rest of the world passes by?
You *know* the left is panicking when they're comparing global warming to God.
ClimateGate has been the best Christmas present we could have asked for.
You know they don't have an
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 23:43 ET by Chris M-GYou know they don't have an argument when they derail the discussion with a COMPLETELY off-topic and irrelevant talking point.
talking points
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 00:28 ET by cajun2Last weeks talking points, from Mr.Gibbs, was all Sarah Palin, this past week it has been religion and especially the Catholic Church. They are confused about "climategate" due to the holiday, their talking points memo is late. Notice how the fringe media all follow the same story line day after day. Brilliant military strategy from a great leader is coming Tue. The media will then daily compare his plan to GW's failures without actually discussing the strategy. This will also serve to assist the medias ploy of delay and ignore other important issues. I'm just guessing. All who agree, say aye.
Aye Aye cajun2---
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 01:05 ET by matthewdeanFor someone who (correct me if I'm wrong) spent a career in Social Services, rather than as a politician, I'd say that is some excellent insight.
MD
"There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress."
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
"They" didn't do anything
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 15:36 ET by Quasi-socialistThis was Clift doing what Clift does more often than people notice: offer a rebuttal that invalidates the point she otherwise would be trying to make. Unfortunately, this is more revealing about Clift's own hodgepodge of concepts, than anything else.
Global Warming Derangement
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 00:45 ET by RR GOPGlobal Warming Derangement Syndrome.
You know, if global warming didn't exist they should have to invent it...hmmm....wait a second here!
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
This is a stunning
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 01:08 ET by TenebrousThis is a stunning admission of what we've said all along -- that there is no hard data for AGW. There is a real fear present among the leftist talking heads, because the anger that the tea party folks have been dishing out to the politicians and the media is about to double -- and with the decline in MSM viewership and the suicide of the print media, these cushy and utterly irrelevant leftists stand a real chance of losing their jobs. The only defense they have will be a mewling "I didn't know!" That won't save them from the budget axe.
Put another way, how many Sunday political shows do we need, when they're all indistinguishable from one another?
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We are not writing any laws based on the existence of God.
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 01:14 ET by JWF"It's no known proof there's God, either. How much proof do you need, Pat?" Clift replied.
Yes. We have separated Church and State in this country. We are not writing any laws based on the proof of God. Let us not write any laws based on the proof of global warming either.
Thank you Elanor Clift. Cap & Trade is officially dead.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Atually there are or were
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 12:27 ET by Dan The Man 2Atually there are or were many laws written based on the existance of God and most still persist today. God's laws are based on common sense also, like those such as abortion restrictions . the protection of murdering of innocents and marriage laws too.
just a wee bit inverted there
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 17:06 ET by konoFWIW, dtm2 -- God's laws exhibit common sense; but their sole basis is the eternal truth and unassailable authority of God's Word and will. Common sense is rooted in Natural Law, arising from God (the sole objective foundation of all that is true).
(or something like that.....)
You are right God is the
Tue, 12/01/2009 - 00:45 ET by Dan The Man 2You are right God is the law. I was trying to convey that Gods laws have a common sense to them in taht they were laid down to us for our protection and well being. Like that of eating pork, swine is a very nasty animal laiden with parasites. IMO God knows this and wanted to protect us.
I expect her to break out in to song any moment...
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 01:52 ET by Army BratGimme that old time religion, gimme that ole time religion.....!
Didn't some Brit Court declare AGW to be a religion?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6494213/Climate-change-belief...
Why yes...yes they did... I was hoping I was losing my tiny mind...but...No.
Just click your heels together 3 times and the earth will begin to cool... Oh...wait...
islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
"This philosophical belief
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 13:16 ET by troglodyt"This philosophical belief that is based on scientific evidence has now
been given the same protection in law as faith-based religious belief."
So no...no they didn't. But it's peculiar story.
AGW sacrifice
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 02:27 ET by m1xramWell Clift... when Al Gore performs a couple thousand miracles, gets nailed to a cross for doing nothing wrong, fulfils over 300 prophecies, and raises from the dead with over 400+ witnesses maybe we will consider the religion of Al Gore Warming.
He has already failed... his country.
Over the edge of the Clift
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 03:56 ET by Big MommaThat sound you hear is a death rattle deep in the throats of the highly visible Marxist/Communist/Liberal engorged political Ticks as they gasp for air while they bob and slowly sink. Clift has long held the position of the Kanye West of Journalists.....be smug....be loud....be insulting.....be disrespectful....be wrong. Now she can add the adjective "pathetic" to her resume. There have been some admirably effective punches landed recently by the Conservative majority of this country......and, by God's Grace, there will be more. However, do not expect to see any respectibility in the demise of the Left.
"Look Ma.....I'm King of the World!" B. H. Obama
There's also no proof that
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 05:03 ET by marvlThere's also no proof that Eleanor Clift's head isn't filled with boiled turnip pulp. But, there *is* a pretty solid proof that the lady is a certified moron: just listen to her.
Ya know, if all the GW alarmists would just press their lips firmly together and squeeze their butt muscles for 5 minutes, the average temperature of the Earth would drop 5 degrees from the drop in hot gaseous emissions.
boiled turnip pulp?
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 17:14 ET by konoThat's good. I was wondering if maybe that's where Sandy Berger stashed those docs he stole from the National Archives, there's so much empty room in that head... Heck, that could even be where Saddam hid Iraq's WMDs during the long lead-up to the war.
late post
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 09:34 ET by m1xramSorry for the late post... but I'm wondering if boiled turnip pulp wouldn't supply better logical arguments?
He has already failed... his country.
Are You Serious?
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 06:08 ET by Joe-OaktonFurther proof that Cliff’s reality check, bounced…
An armed society is a polite society
"It's no known proof
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 06:32 ET by Jack BauerSo Clift actually proves the point so many of us have made.
That for the Warm Mongers "the climate change formerly know as global warming" is a RELIGION.
They believe it because it's their God. No scientific proof required.
Jefferson sheds a tear.....
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 07:46 ET by Timothy HJack, not surprisingly, I thought the EXACT same thing as I read this blog. I have been making the argument that the Environmentalism crowd had latched onto climate change as a religion for a long time, and now Eleanor has officially outed the movement for what it is.
I have another thought here. Where is the "separation of church and state" crowd? This one actually DOES fall under the ideals to which Jefferson was referring. The Grand Church of Environmentalism is looking to LEGISLATE it's beliefs, and separation crowd is to busy patrolling for manger scenes..... and Thomas Jefferson sheds yet another tear.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
This is real good....
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 09:37 ET by OzconservativeFound this on youtube, it's great for a laugh!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk
LMFAO!!!!!!
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 09:43 ET by Timothy HOMG, that was so good. Thanks for the link, Oz!
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Where on earth did they find this dizzy broad??
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 09:52 ET by Patriot IIWhat kind of response is that...besides being so idiotic its not worth mentioning......what kind of response is it to the no global wurming B.S.? Idiots like this should be in a home.....with the doors locked! ;)
Where? She's a neighbor of Andrea Mitchell...
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 10:26 ET by SickofLibsValley of the Kings, Tomb 11.
Mitchell's on the other side of the tunnel at #13.
Funny...MEAN, but really funny!
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 11:12 ET by nolotrippen“It is almost impossible to distinguish a politician from a gangster.” (Will Durant, 1931)
I predicted tea parties would return. Now I'm predicting dueling will return.
WHAT IS THE TRUTH
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 10:35 ET by ROSSMANDrudge says critical climate data dumped by scientists, and then writes that the same scientists will publish all the data used in the warming claims!! Did they dump it or do they have it???????????
Actually There are Multiple Proofs of the Existance of G-d
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 11:49 ET by John Galt1776see here
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/108386/jewish/Proof-of-Gds...
Conundrum
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 12:38 ET by Fire BrnsThere is argueable proof that god exist, the people of your religion that were contacted by god(prophets). Unless you are athiest then you will burn in hell.
On the other hand if there is no proof of global warming why believe it? I thought you were supposed to believe it because of proof that the earth was getting warmer???
So the earth is not getting warmer and I am supposed to believe it is without proof? Liberal logic.... *Sigh* Time to eat those guns we love so much. :P
Are you applying the very
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 13:18 ET by troglodytAre you applying the very same reasoning of that rabbi to science? Just wondering how far you come.
Proof of God
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 12:33 ET by bradbenj5952"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?" Romans 9:20
No unbeliever would look at any object designed and manufactured by man and say that it made itself through random chance. Yet those same people can look at something as fascinating and miraculous as http://creation.com/germs-miniature-motor-has-a-clutch and say that it made itself!
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Romans 10:9
"Oh, it is a danger. It's a
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 14:40 ET by bigtimer"Oh, it is a danger. It's a danger in many places."
The only danger is leftist-loon critters like Clift...I saw this yesterday...and she never disappoints with her idiocy.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
What a clift!
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 15:10 ET by Quasi-socialist1) Global Warming is considered a matter of science. The existence of God is not.
2) There is not supposed to be an official policy on the existence of God, but it is exactly what is promoted in terms of AGW--and that's pretty much why you are discussing the subject!
clift v.i., "to clift" to offer a rebuttal that ignores the main context of discussion and/or disproves your main point.
The View
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 15:10 ET by LibertydudeWhy isn't clift on the view, that would really round out that group of dried up morons.
Yep,
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 15:54 ET by Fire BrnsShe is an idiot...
I am tired of idiots downtalking and shunning stuff then using it as a defense.
I have a friend who believes suppresion of freedom is bad but thinks socialism is good.
Can't wait to see what happens when she dies so many years from now and god remembers this.
"It's no known proof
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 21:53 ET by MikeB"It's no known proof there's God, either." I don't know what she would consider as proof, or even adequate proof, but there is a whole lot more evidence for the existence of God than there is for the existence of Anthropogenic Global Warming or Anthropogenic Global Climate Change. Climate was changing before man came along, was changing long before an industrial revolution, and will continue to change long after mankind disappears from the face of this planet. As for global warming, it has been warming since the end of the last ice age. It was much warmer during the medieval warm period than it is today (and yet the polar bears managed to survive that warming period), and it was much cooler during the little ice age ... and all without massive output of carbon dioxide by humankind. For that matter, there is greater daily carbon dioxide output by termites world wide than there is by humans.
There is exactly zero proof that humans are impacting global climate for either warming or cooling.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan