The global warming alarmists are beginning to lose the PR battle, at least that is what a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll is indicating. But this has the usual purveyors of climate change doom-and-gloom trying to rationalize the shift in public opinion.
The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin, who regularly has her objectivity called into question on the issue of anthropogenic global warming, attributed this to nothing more than political polarization. Eilperin, a former contributor for the left-of-center Huffington Post and wife of the liberal Center for American Progress' so-called "climate specialist" Andrew Light, appeared on MSNBC on Nov. 28 and offered that explanation.
"What you're seeing is increasing political polarization," Eilperin said. "What we've seen is from since three-and-a-half years ago where there was kind of an all-time high in terms of people believing in it. You've seen the biggest drop among Republicans by about something like 22 points, and then independents dropped less than that and then with Democrats, it was a much smaller drop - just about 6 points."
Eilperin didn't offer the possible explanation that anthropogenic global warming really is as Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., called it years ago - a "hoax" - and that is why the issue is losing steam. Instead, it's just politics and the weather.
"So, both I think what you're seeing is more - becoming more of a political issue as it looks like the Obama administration is both acting on this issue and preparing to ask Congress to act," Eilperin continued. "And then on top of it, sometimes it's just things just like the weather. If it's not quite as hot as it had been a couple of years ago people sometimes start to question it."
Perhaps Eilperin could have offered her viewers another reason why it seems to be losing traction as a threat - the science that has allegedly been settled and the assertion the time for debate is over is being called into question, especially after ClimateGate (The term used for a data breach at Britain's Climate Research Unit, University of East Anglia when a hacker apparently broke into their system and made away with thousands of emails and documents that showed scientist, some on the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, had colluded to shape the data to exaggerate the threat of global warming, or as The Wall Street Journal called "Rigging a Climate ‘Consensus'").
Instead, Eilperin credited a well-organized global warming skeptic movement with "their own Web sites" swaying Republicans and causing this shift in polling.
"Well, what we have seen is that there has been a doubling of the number of skeptics from 13 percent three-and-a-half years ago to 26 percent now," Eilperin said. "So they have boosted their numbers and certainly people who question human activities linked to climate change. They're very active online. They're organized. They have their own Web sites. They weigh in frequently. So, there's certainly that but again, it seems that they're making the most headway with Republicans, who are obviously to some extent hearing from their leaders - that this is an issue that doesn't rank as high on the priority list as others."
Eilperin was still hopeful for some sort of climate change agreement and predicted it won't be legally binding, but just lip service suggesting the United States would do something about it in the future.
"The best deal he could get is kind of a political agreement rather than a legally binding treaty right now, which would not only incorporate actions by the United States and other industrialized countries, but also by our economic competitors, which is China and India," Eilperin said. "And so that's what he really is looking for - political deal where all the countries that contribute to greenhouse gas emissions will come together and agree to cut them in the coming decade."





















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→ All she knows
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 16:52 ET by Cool ArrowAll she knows is that she's having an extremely bad hair day so it must be from global warming.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
I was just gonna say CA~~
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 16:59 ET by BKeyserWhat's she blamin' that hairdo on?
→ Helmet hair
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 17:11 ET by Cool ArrowYou know they were having a good laugh after she left the make-up room.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
"And just for you, Mzzz
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 18:32 ET by celator"And just for you, Mzzz Juliet, our hairdressing staff created the new Olive Oyl look. It's real purty."
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Princess Leia
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 07:15 ET by motherbeltActually, I think it's a "Princess Leia" look gone rogue.
MB.. yes, that's it! That's
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 13:31 ET by celatorMB.. yes, that's it! That's what happens when you use WD-40 to style hair. The only good thing is that your hair won't squeak anymore. ;+}
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
yes, so she can....
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 08:14 ET by spepperyes, WD40, so she can slide her entire head up Obama's....oh never mind.
I was thinking that with
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 14:50 ET by Kat Outta the BagI was thinking that with just a little extra frizz, she could be Roseanna Roseannadanna's sister.
WHEN SCIENCE GOES "BAD"
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 21:11 ET by reelman46WHEN SCIENCE GOES “BAD”
The University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit has reversed its long-standing policy and agreed to make its climate database public so that other researchers can check the conclusions that have been reached by global warming alarmists who, until now, have been the only ones with access to the data. What is not clear from this report is whether the formulas and calculations that were applied to the data to obtain published results will also be made public………and so on…Nov 2009.
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CRAWFISH NOTE:
A crucial part of my job for 27 years was to teach college frosh Biology and Zoology. The heart of this science teaching was a day on “the nature of science” early on in every course. The mere fact that “research” data is hidden is WRONG, borderline evil actually (except perhaps military nuclear-type secrets).
Science requires that the world of researchers be able to “verify-duplicate” ANY research data-procedure-result. It fact checks itself and always has until GW arrived as the latest crisis. The mere fact “global warming data” had to be pursued via FOI Act is a huge red flag.
All this secrecy strongly suggests BAD science research…there are no legit excuses. Of course the modern liberal (secular socialist) avoids debate, microphones and the truth (reality) 24-7.
Now we hear that a mere 3 trees with the “desired rings” were used to change decades of data and the trees contrary to that desired data were avoided…sounds like creative research by democrats seeking tax $$$ for “PC” (aka acceptable) grants.
Science is about discovering TRUTH, inconvenient or not.
http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish
Reel, agree. There seems to
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 21:47 ET by celatorReel, agree. There seems to have been collusion (world wide, it seems) among the scientists, research fund raisers, Universities, politicians, the MSM--and who knows who else-- to perpetuate this "crisis", at the cost of defrauding the taxpayers, and the gain of pocketfuls of money. A perfect storm of corruption.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
These are the new
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 16:53 ET by ahusser"Deniers"
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
Eilperin says we all know
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 17:12 ET by d1carterEilperin says we all know this is true so just shut up! You denier!
Anglia has agreed to
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 19:03 ET by d1carterAnglia has agreed to release the database to the public....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6678469...
PR Stuff
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 20:10 ET by dboThis is just pure public relations and damage control. Phil Jones already admitted a couple of months ago that he has destroyed all pre-1980's original data and all that is left is "adjusted data". More here.
Hubert Lamb is rolling over
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 06:04 ET by danboHubert Lamb is rolling over in his grave.
"You lie!" Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)
Behavior under uncertainty
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 17:30 ET by KC MulvilleIf you knew the answer to a question yourself, you would never need experts. It's precisely because you don't know the answer already that you're forced to trust experts.
And that's the key word: trust.
ClimateGate is about a breach of trust. The "experts" have shown that they're not trustworthy. And, since they're recommending massive funding for themselves to study the issue, as well as massive disruptions to the economy, setting back economic growth and killing off hundreds of thousands of jobs ... betraying our trust was not a good move.
Trust no one and the cake is
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 23:23 ET by Dan The Man 2Trust no one and the cake is lie.
Which came first
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 18:04 ET by tim413political polarization or an adundance of loony liberal ideas? Here's an open letter to the Senate: Please do not do anything until you've seen a thorough cost-benefit analysis.
Stop federal judges from foisting their notions of "fairness" on the States. Amend the 14th Amendment! - tim413
What is she saying? 1.
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 18:07 ET by EdhenryWhat is she saying?
1. That democrats are slow learners? or
2. That they root harder against US conomic success?
I'm starting to believe it...
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 18:18 ET by ingram207You know, I have to admit that I am coming around to something...
When I first heard the assertion that conservatives had a lot of hot chicks and liberals got all the ugly chicks, I thought it was a crock. Now, though, I'm starting to see the light...now that's a face for radio or newspapers!
Oh, wait! Let me guess!!
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 18:38 ET by motherbeltThe "polarization" is because of the way dissenters "paint" it. Or "portray" it. It couldn't be that the more people find out about it, the less credible the claims are and the fishier the "evidence" seems....
Nah...can't be that.
AGW
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 19:04 ET by mike221bThe religious group Anthro-Climatism is begining to have their house of cards crumble before there very eyes.
NO ATTENTION
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 19:59 ET by nadadhimmiPAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN, I AM THE "GREAT OZ".
This is playing out EXACTLY
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 20:20 ET by bse5150This is playing out EXACTLY like the ACORN scandal did. I expect it to go the same way. More emails will have to be leaked to get these turds in the MSM to admit there is a real problem here.
BSE5150...
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 08:11 ET by danybhoyI'm sure you are right, the MSM will try to sweep this under the rug like they are trying to with the ACORN story.
Here is the deal, both the GlobalWarming/ClimateChange moffia & ACORN should both be hit with RICO investigations. Pure & simple.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
Politics or corruption?
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 20:33 ET by cajun2Who cares which one? The problem is corruption is rampart in DC, the media, and now science institutions all have destroyed confidence in any of them. Froma Harrop had a column today in my local rag. She says the same as all liberal media.
I quote from her column: "Our job is to choose which experts to believe. But how?" Well first, she never mentions climate gate in her article but she does quote several of the rascals in the dirty emails. One of them is Josh Willis from NASA putting down another "expert". So how are we to choose when the media and the scientist are all corrupt?
At least Penn State will draw attention even if it is a farce. Senator Inhofe may also bust but at least he too will draw attention.
Lack of credibility is more damaging than political polarizing. I am writing emails everytime I see an article that is about global warming but does not mention climategate.
This isnt science but I wonder if this info was added to the data. On 12-11-08, it snowed 3-6 inches in most of south Louisiana including the New Orleans area. The first time it snowed here in 22 years.
If it is about global warming, economy, health care, or jobs. I demand the truth. I will harrass and holler til I get it.
Thanks NB for leading the way.
Explaination of ClimateGate
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 20:52 ET by Gary_in_SeabeckAn easy explanation of what ClimateGate means, ClimateGate emails and computer programs were taken from a main server at the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia. It is not known if this was a theft or the actions of a whistleblower, disgusted with what the lead scientists at CRU were doing.
ClimateGate exposed the cabal of 20 – 30 scientists (not just at CRU) that peer reviewed each others papers, strong-armed scientific journals to only print their views, and then sat on the IPCC panels as authors judging which published studies go into the IPCC final reports. This is why they always keep shouting “peer reviewed studies, peer reviewed studies, peer reviewed studies”. They owned the peer review process.
ClimateGate exposed that this small group has been adding positive corrections to the raw global temperature data, inflating the amount of published temperature rise over the last 50 years. Both CRU in the UK and NASA-GISS in the US add these biases. At CRU, the programmers did not even know what and why some corrections were added every month. Only since satellite monitoring for comparison have the amounts of biasing leveled off.
ClimateGate exposed the leaders of this cabal instructing each other to delete emails, data files, and data analysis programs ahead of already filed Freedom Of Information Act requests for raw data and computer codes, clearly a crime.
ClimateGate exposed the “trick” about the Hockey stick figure and other studies that performed proxy construction of past temperatures. After all, reconstruction of the last 1,000 years of climate is the first step in predicting the future with super computer programs as explained below:
So shut-up or be called a denier,
live the way we tell you to live,
pay more for everything, and
just send money for my research on the effects of global climate change on horseshoe crabs (which have been around for about 440 million years through all possible temperature ranges).
I hope that this makes the ClimateGate controversy easier to understand.
Leaked data
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 04:13 ET by CiampinoI have been going through the emails - interesting reading to say the least. Here's an extract I left at http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2009/11/28/open-thread#comments
Look for Selective Reporting
The old game of 'lowering expectations'
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 21:39 ET by SATerpObama and his pals hoped to come out of Copenhagen forcing cap and tax down our throats. But by the time it's over, they'll be claiming they just wanted to 'raise awareness.'
love the doo
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 01:50 ET by wizardjrwhat's with the Olive Oyl hairdo??
not a hairdo
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 08:10 ET by speppernot a hairdo-- just got tapped by Bluto off camera--
Now, if Dick Morris and
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 03:40 ET by RR GOPNow, if Dick Morris and Bill O'Reilly finally disavow global warming, then I'm thinking that this would have permeated deep enough into American Society so that most that used to will quit buying this load of Marxist-formulated crap.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
kicking and screaming
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 08:08 ET by spepperyeah, lots of well intentioned folks like O'Reilly et al, who although they might pay lip service to the "warmers" position, even though we all know it to be a crock, Climategate might just be the thing that drags them kicking and screaming from any further attempt at validating their hoax--
"Climate Change Data" DUMPED, DELETED, DESTROYED ...
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 10:59 ET by Jayke... IT'S THE SUN, STUPID!
http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2009/11/no-science-is-possible-cru-has.htm...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece
And the sun is BLANK!
http://spaceweather.com
Climate Research Unit website is "OFFLINE" ...
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 08:40 ET by JaykeThey can't even run a website.
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The main CRU webserver is currently down.
These pages are being served from the CRU Emergency Webserver.
Not all pages from the main server are available,
and what pages are available may be out of date.
Climatic Research Unit
How convienient for them.
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 09:17 ET by nadadhimmiHow convienient for them.
offline
Mon, 11/30/2009 - 08:04 ET by speppernot to mention, deleted-- bet they are busy trying to wipe everything-- the equivalent of Nazi book burning in progress!
Blame it on the weather! Heh!
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 09:47 ET by CobraMan"If it's not quite as hot as it had been a couple of years ago people sometimes start to question it."
Geez, ya think? Hay, idiots, if the weather is been cooling for the last few years, that's a great indication that the climate is cooling as well. But, hay, who are we going to believe, you or our own lying eyes?
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The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Gee, why is it that
Sun, 11/29/2009 - 18:43 ET by eaglewingz08Gee, why is it that politization and polarization only occurs when conservatives challenge the death cult of liberalism and socialism?
If a liberal said we want gay marriage, abortion on demand and socialized medicine where the us economy will be dead in fifteen years, why shouldn't each of these far left items be deemed as polarizing and/or politicization?Oh Mr. Kotter, ask me, ask me!!
Because liberal democrats are the truth and the light and therefore cannot 'polarize' or 'politicize' any issue. There position is given from God and the High Priests of the international collective soviet ministry.
Anyone who challenges the writ of the left is a blaspheming polarizing knuckle dragging person.