MSNBC's Chris Matthews has said some things that would make your scratch your head - like getting a thrill up his leg from a speech given by Barack Obama. However, this one will really make you wonder what he was thinking.
On his Nov. 9 broadcast of "Hardball," in an interview with Zuhdi Jasser, president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, Matthews compared the incident of Maj. Nidal M. Hasan at Ft. Hood to Sirhan Sirhan's 1968 assassination of Sen. Robert F. Kennedy.
"You know, I have a hard time with this because people like Sirhan Sirhan, who is still serving time for killing Bobby Kennedy, didn't like what Bobby Kennedy had said on television," Matthews said. "Bobby Kennedy had made political statements saying we're going to sell arms, fighter planes directly to Israel, not under the table. We're going to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Those are the things that triggered his killing spree. He killed one person - Bobby Kennedy, horrifically. But did he become a different religious person because he committed the crime? And when did this happen?" [Audio: Part I here (925 KB), Part II here (1.18 MB)]
But the struggle Matthews was having - that given Reuters had reported Hasan had tried to contact al Qaeda, was that reason enough to intervene on the activities of Hasan (emphasis added).
"See - we have a problem," Matthews said. "How do we know when someone like Hasan is going to make his move and do we know he's an Islamist until he's made his move? He makes a phone call or whatever, according to Reuters right now. Apparently he tried to contact al Qaeda. Is that the point at which you say, ‘This guy is dangerous?' That's not a crime to call up al Qaeda, is it? Is it? I mean, where do you stop the guy?"
And this was obviously a philosophical struggle for the "Hardball" host, as he reiterated he confusion.
"Well, this guy, according to all the testament, admittedly it has not been admitted into court. We cannot call him the shooter until we have a trial. That's the way we work here, you know, that's how it works in America, certainly not in the news business. You can't call somebody a murderer until you get a conviction in court. And the question here is when can you identify a problem? That's what we have to deal with. And you say it's an ideological point - you can find the problem. But then we get into the business of checking out on people's thinking. And that's the problem.
Incredibly, this wasn't just a one-time lapse for Matthews. He reiterated his question, if contacting al Qaeda, an institution classified as a terrorist organization by several international governments and organizations, was crime (emphasis added).
"When does a person become a danger, when they have a certain thought system? Or when they go out and buying semi-automatic pistols, or when they start phoning up al Qaeda, saying how can I join the gang? I mean, where do you stop a person? This is criminology, maybe not ideology, but or even religion. But how do we weed out a guy - it seems to me, all of the warning signs, I mean, we have seen them all now. It's like looking at pictures of Muhammad Ata hanging around convenience stores and going to ATM machines. We got all kinds of information on this guy after it's too late."
Amazingly, Matthews even compared himself to Hasan - suggesting his actions were just criticism of the United States invasion of Iraq, with just one subtle difference.
"But this guy was running around shooting his mouth off saying how he hated this country's wars with - look, you can listen to me on television and hear me saying I didn't like the war with Iraq. You know, I don't agree with the war on Iraq and a lot of Americans didn't like the war with Iraq. They didn't start shooting people about it."
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Ok Chris, how about this?
November 9, 2009 - 21:25 ET by BKeyserOk Chris, how about this? Let's say there were intercepted inquiries to al-Qaida and let's say they occurred on multiple occasions. If you suspected an attack was imminent, and knowing what you know now (13 dead, nearly 40 injured) would you have intercepted and waterboarded this guy if it meant preventing the massacre from happening?
No because intercepting
November 9, 2009 - 22:55 ET by MrSnugglesNo because intercepting those communications is UNCONSTITUTIONAL according to this bum and his leftist friends.
What me worry?
November 10, 2009 - 00:54 ET by ThoreauIt's unConstitutional without a judge issued warrant for private citizens(before the Patriot Act). But if you sign your ass over to the military, it is not. You are their property. The court of law is not the same. Your "Rights" are not the same.
If any of you have stayed on "old" military bases you can still hear the 1950's style clicking when they listen in on a call. It's understood and they have the privilege under National Security in it's true form to do so. This is appropriate and legal, and it is not new.
But regardless of who he called, it didn't matter apparently. They didn't discharge him or line him up against a wall for treason.
I'm guessing what we're seeing is only half the news here. I'm getting that balloon boy feeling. Calling Al Qaeda seems like an easy and politically correct out. I smell BS.
What would be worse is if he called an Imam in Falls Church, Virginia. One with a school. One with a school who's graduates are convicted terrorists. That would be worse, wouldn't it.
That would mean the enemy is within, not without. And it would have nothing to do with Al Qaeda.
The basic takeaway here is that Islam is a religion of peace because everyone that isn't a muslim will either die or submit(pay jizya). Those are your democratic options in their belief system. There is no other when they are the majority or the victors, whichever comes first.
If you think that jives with the Constitution or Bill of Rights in any way, then that's where your logic fatally fails you.
Islam is the issue here. It isn't complicated. Read their books. The Quo'ran and Ahadith. It's in black and white. Grow a pair and see what they are for yourself. Spend some time reviewing the latest of the verses(they are deemed the most correct- because he was making it up as he went along).
This issue isn't going away. Understand it and fight it. They aren't extremists. They are normal- historically and scripturally- to the letter.
Islam was the issue when the towers fell. It was the issue when Thomas Jefferson was the Commander in Chief. It was the issue during the Catholic Crusades. It's the same sh|t different day. Either wrap your brains around what it is or get used to getting your ass handed to you. This absolute ignorance and politically correct BS are going to get us all killed.
They know a lot more than we do.
November 10, 2009 - 01:06 ET by CO2Maker"I'm guessing what we're seeing is only half the news here. I'm getting that balloon boy feeling. Calling Al Qaeda seems like an easy and politically correct out. I smell BS.
What would be worse is if he called an Imam in Falls Church, Virginia. One with a school. One with a school who's graduates are convicted terrorists. That would be worse, wouldn't it."
Or if Al Qaeda called him. The Brits intercepted one email from a Muslim terrorist group in the UK to Najibullah Zazi, in Denver, who was arrested recently by the FBI and Homeland Security.
British spies help prevent al Qaeda-inspired attack on New York subway - Telegraph
Also, the latest from ABC News is that the Army knew of Hasan's contacts with AQ for a while. Why they didn't act to prevent what happened or to apprehend him is not known.
Fort Hood Shooter Tried to Contact al Qaeda Terrorists, Officials Say - ABC News
I don't know Chris
November 9, 2009 - 21:33 ET by MES41067Maybe before he kills 13 of our Soldiers.
(Lenin called them "useful idiots" I for one have no use for them.)
"That's not a crime to call up al Qaeda, is it?"
November 9, 2009 - 21:31 ET by shannon76I was just going to send newsbusters the link for this one.
Let me be clear...I know social liberals hate black & white, right & wrong b/c of their need to find the gray in everything. BUT...allow me to draw the line for you, mr. "thrill up my leg"...YES! It IS a crime to call up Al Qaeda. No one calls them up just to say, hey what's up.. i'm just chillin'.. you?
I'm actually surprised (somehow) that someone actually verbalized their need to defend Islam to such an extent, that they'd equivocate on whether or not contacting Al Qaeda crossed some sort of line.
There's no way what Chris Matthews said should go unnoticed. It is the essence of this diarrhea of political correctness that is not just silly, but now dangerous.
(And, btw, I've watched the interview twice. There is no rhetorical loophole to excuse Mr. Thrill's thought process. He honestly and sincerely believes that contacting Al Qaeda is much ado about nothing). I'm so amazed at the extent to which certain media outlets are willing to go out on a limb to whitewash this incident as osmotic PTSD or whatever else they're cooking up. Amazing. And they'll never admit they got the wrong angle on the story.
14th Ammendment to Constitution
November 10, 2009 - 07:47 ET by ThisnThatIs it a crime? Mathews needs to read the 14th Ammendment, Section 3, to the Constitution:
Communicating with Al Queda as a military officer is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. How much more clear does this have to be to get bastards like Mathews to take notice?
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I know (having read it)
November 10, 2009 - 13:07 ET by HockeyKidI know (having read it) that the UCMJ convicts Hasan's actions as murder and treason, punishable by death.
What I don't know is whether the current crop in the head shed will allow justice to be done under the UCMJ, or will come up with some touchy-feely dodge. And THAT pisses me off, speaking as a vet.
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Clarification
November 10, 2009 - 14:15 ET by UnsaneThat portion of the 14th Amendment was aimed directly at a group of citizens long dead - Confederate office holders and high officials.
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Barney Frank may not know
November 9, 2009 - 21:31 ET by bse5150Barney Frank may not know what a pot plant looks like, but that Liberal spittle-flying fool Matthews sure acts like he does.
Only one thing to about this:
November 9, 2009 - 21:31 ET by Bettendor"You just don't get it." - Pa Grape, "Veggietales"
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Crime
November 9, 2009 - 21:33 ET by ShanghaiRayI guess it depends on why you are contacting Al Qaeda. If you are trying to get Bin Ladin to surrender and "throw in the towel" so to speak, then I guess it'd be ok, however, if you are asking for suggestions and/or help to murder an American then yeah..it's a crime of conspiracy at least.
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In bending over backwards
November 9, 2009 - 21:39 ET by Chris NormanIn bending over backwards not to offend Muslims, Matthews has now seriously offended everyone else. I'd say that this demonstrates that Political Correctness has just about come full circle and is very near to lapping itself.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
How many people are in there, Matthews?
November 9, 2009 - 23:08 ET by GalvanicI watched Matthews utter his nonsense on his show tonight, and whatever point he was trying to make was incoherent. It was if all the voices in his head were speaking simulataneous, and we were hearing bits and pieces of that chaos. Matthews was -- as usual -- ridiculous.
On the other hand, his Muslim-American guest in that segment was quite good an dspot on.
What?
November 9, 2009 - 21:42 ET by ghblogMaybe we should have been listening in on that call? How does one get Bin Laden's number? Maybe at the mosque.
Just when I think that Chris "thrill up my leg" Matthews could not get more irrelevant, he tops it.
at the mosque
November 9, 2009 - 23:04 ET by TjexciteHow does one get Bin Laden's number? Maybe at the mosque.
Is it in in the back by the lost cat or learn guitar postings.
Do you want to throw a Jihad....
Call Bin Laden (202)-456-1414 (that is the White house number)
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November 9, 2009 - 21:43 ET by Eugenia"...Chris Matthews has said some things that would make your scratch your head...this one will really make you wonder what he was thinking."
Good post, Jeff. The only thing you have to remember is that liberals such as Matthews don't think; they feel their way through life.
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Just when you think these
November 9, 2009 - 21:43 ET by ConservativeRexJust when you think these squawkers have reached a new low, they astound you with their stupidity. Matthews needs his ass kicked just for verbalizing something so stupid.
Maybe ol' Chris is dropping a dime on our government operatives out in the field to our enemies. He has access to some of the most traitorous folks in our government. Maybe he needs to be put on a watch list. Drop in on his cell phone calls. Might be worth a try.
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Birds of a feather
November 9, 2009 - 21:44 ET by viluzionLiberals instinctively defend anybody who, like themselves, hates America. Don't expect the lame stream media to do much else.
Could it be?
November 9, 2009 - 22:03 ET by srqvetCould this and other media spin be more related to the first mass casualty TERRORIST attack since 9/11 rather than Hasan's religion? Just thinking the LSM is trying to protect Obamao from criticism concerning the manner in which Homeland Security determines who might be a threat.
Good news, the libtards have moved from calling conservatives racists to calling conservatives extremists. A distinction without a difference, but heck, the racist charge wasn't sticking.
Obamao Homeland Security--if initial reports are true, you got a bunch of our young heros killed. Shame on you Janet and Barry!!
Treason is a crime
November 9, 2009 - 21:56 ET by SkipperMLMCome on Chris...I was taught in elementary school that treason is a crime.
Treason- a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason
Treason is a Federal offence punishable by death.
However, he and KO wanted to have W executed.
Well, Chrissy, if its NOT a
November 9, 2009 - 22:12 ET by RowaneWell, Chrissy, if its NOT a crime to call Al Queda it damn well should be.
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This is a complete disconnect.
November 9, 2009 - 22:14 ET by JWFThat's not a crime to call up al-Qaida, is it? Is it? I mean, where do you stop the guy?
No. It is not a crime. But it is a big red friggin flag that says you should not have access to unarmed soldiers of the United States.
Idiot.
Eh, I would've said that
November 10, 2009 - 11:02 ET by Mike SargentEh, I would've said that slightly different.
It isn't a crime to call al-Qaeda. But if it isn't your job (in the military) to contact the enemy with words (PsyOps), and the FBI already has a file on you as a possible threat; and if you make contact with the people who have sworn to destroy America...what is your purpose in doing so?
Al-Qaeda isn't like a 7-11, people. They have a purpose, and it isn't anything friendly to the U.S. military. This jerkweed should have been yanked from active duty five minutes after the FBI found out about his activities.
But in Washington, agencies don't talk to each other. So he wasn't.
Matthews Logic: It's not
November 9, 2009 - 22:14 ET by Chris NormanMatthews Logic:
It's not a crime to watch the operations of a bank: people coming and going, the armored car delivering the cash, etc.
It's not a crime to buy a ski mask
It's not a crime to have a friend wait out in front of a bank in a car with the engine running
It's not a crime to have your hand in your jacket pocket
It's Bush's fault the bank was robbed!
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Good one, chris!
November 10, 2009 - 14:20 ET by Secret ConservativeAs I read the blog post and the comments I found myself thinking, "If this had happened during the Bush Administration, these same faux-journalists would be screaming because Bush did not prevent this from happening. But since it happens on Obama's watch, it becomes a criminal act, not a terrorist act, and the murderer/terrorist is considered innocent."
You know it galls me every time I read an article about this or hear a news report and they refer to this guy as the "alleged" gunman. Who the heck ELSE do they think he is?
I am also annoyed because a lot of the same media types who are treating him like just another suspect (innocent until proven guilty) are ready to crucify the MILITARY for not doing something before this happens. But you can be sure, if they HAD booted him out or jailed him or something, he would be screaming "Muslim discrimination" and the media jokers would be screaming right along with him.
SC... Bulls-Eye! 'Doubli
November 10, 2009 - 14:25 ET by bigtimerSC...
Bulls-Eye!
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When the Men in Black knock
November 9, 2009 - 22:30 ET by CO2Maker"You want to know why I called Mr. Ahmadinejad? Well, he has posted a "Looking for centrifuges" notice on CraigsList and I wanted to get some details. Something wrong with that?'
"Al Qaeda? I called their tourist office. Yeah. I wanted some literature and stamps, yeah, postage stamps, with all those neat curlicues. Cool writing. No no, nothing about jihad or guns. Stamps for my nephew's collection, promise!"
"Hamas is a bad outfit? Man, I didn't know. I mean, c'mon, Hamas, Fatah. Can't tell 'em apart without a program, you know. I was looking at their fall catalog so I could buy one of those neat patterned scarf things that sort of look like hound's tooth, you know? I wanted to get about four of them for friends at Christmas and Chanukkah. Buy 'em together and save of the UPS bill."
Wasn't Matthews the guy....
November 9, 2009 - 22:30 ET by superconwho just a couple of weeks ago was all angwy that the Tea Partiers were going to get someone hurt by bringing a gun to a rally....? Now it's all "Since when is calling al-Qaeda a crime..?" Except for all that soldier killing the guy is just a simple war protester in Chris's eyes. Could this guy possibly be a bigger tool ?
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Good point
November 9, 2009 - 22:32 ET by CO2MakerBut the real problem is the easy availability of hand guns.
What a guest!
November 10, 2009 - 00:32 ET by tim413CO, I hope your tongue is firmly planted in your check.
Regarding the guest, was that guy mute?
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But of course.
November 10, 2009 - 01:12 ET by CO2MakerSupercon pointed out how Chris is talkign out of both sides of his Wide Frog Mouth, but as damning as that is, CTWMF can easily slide out of that rebuttal and shout "hand gun violence" and turn this into a hand-wringing exercise about the 2d Amendment and America's violent culture (the non-Muslim part, filled with Christian abortionist killers and predatory lenders).
Jasser,that's my baby.
November 9, 2009 - 22:38 ET by CO2MakerWho does he look like?
I think he looks like a young Brent Musburger (who has to be the biggest a**hole to speak into a college basketball microphone) with Blago's hair.
Just so we're clear
November 9, 2009 - 23:09 ET by Dim BulbHey, screwball, is it still a hate crime to question a black politician's agenda? Please respond! Save me from looking stupid or illiberal.
Chris Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Matthews
November 9, 2009 - 23:18 ET by CO2MakerGot to thinking about this again. Same idea went through my mind first thing:
As Leno said to Hugh Grant, but with emphasis: "What the foxtrot were you thinking?"
Al Qaeda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. So, Chris, are you saying that the government should NOT trace and record a telephone call from a natural-born American citizen of Palestinian parents to the enemy organization in a war we are waging? the organization responsible for the death of 3,000 people in New York?
Wassamatta, you?
→ CO2
November 9, 2009 - 23:27 ET by Cool ArrowDon'cha know? As an MSNBC urinalist, Matthews can give us the dumb trout look and look incredulously around at the twisted wreckage of 9/11. Al Qaeda? No connection there as far as Chris can see.
Fits in perfectly with Obama's offer to have a goodhearted sit-down with Satan Ahmadinajad
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I remember a military officer hoped AQ or Bin Laden would answer
November 9, 2009 - 23:25 ET by gopcongressWhen the war started in Afghanistan, I remember a military commander wishing that AQ or Bin Laden WOULD be telephonically contacted by US forces, so we could get their coordinates and send a Stinger right to their location.
But listen up, Tingles...It's not JUST a crime...IT'S FREAKIN' TREASON!!!
Lily Tomlin as the Telephone operator: "I'm sorry, sir, but the line has been disconnected. You sound... faint sir. Would you like to try to reconnect? We have more where that came from. Sir? Sir?
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If stupid was a crime...
November 10, 2009 - 00:24 ET by Patrick MichaelMatthews would be a felon
Stay Free!!!
If stupid were a crime,
November 10, 2009 - 00:44 ET by Tom1969caFixed.
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Tom... ...and his appeals
November 10, 2009 - 00:48 ET by bigtimerTom...
...and his appeals would have been exhausted by now.
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Chrissy, only you would ask
November 10, 2009 - 01:21 ET by Clear thinkerChrissy, only you would ask such a stupid question. There are two organizations on this planet that people should never, ever, call for a little chit-chat. Al Qaeda would be number one in order of importance and vile behavior, MSNBC would be the second!
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Knee jerks and tingly legs
November 10, 2009 - 04:41 ET by JakeMoMatthews: That's not a crime to call up al Qaeda, is it? Is it?
Maybe Matthews is just looking for some legal advice.
He sounds like one of those guys on To Catch A Predator when Chris Hanson walks in: "It's not a crime to talk to a girl, is it? Is it?"
Using Tingles logic
November 10, 2009 - 04:42 ET by ohiochilithen its ok to call the KKK, the American Skinhead Nazi party, (I don't know what they're called, but you get my point) or the mafia. I mean, after all...maybe they have some good tips on lawn care or a great grilling recipe.
There is a bad smell in my kitchen. I know I haven't taken the garbage out for a day or two, I see the bag of garbage there and smell it, but am I really sure its the garbage? After all, its my fault the garbage is there in the first place and has not been taken care of. The garbage is not at fault for stinking up the place, its just doing what garbage does when mistreated. And who am I to decide what is garbage and what is good? I am forcing my values on the garbage when I throw it into the dumpster. Rather than offend the garbage, I will leave it there to fester and decay. I am hoping that the rot does not eventually make me sick or kill me, but I know that mere stink does not mean the filth is bad.
Using Tingles logic
November 10, 2009 - 05:00 ET by ohiochilithen its ok to call the KKK, the American Skinhead Nazi party, (I don't know what they're called, but you get my point) or the mafia. I mean, after all...maybe they have some good tips on lawn care or a great grilling recipe.
There is a bad smell in my kitchen. I know I haven't taken the garbage out for a day or two, I see the bag of garbage there and smell it, but am I really sure its the garbage? After all, its my fault the garbage is there in the first place and has not been taken care of. The garbage is not at fault for stinking up the place, its just doing what garbage does when mistreated. And who am I to decide what is garbage and what is good? I am forcing my values on the garbage when I throw it into the dumpster. Rather than offend the garbage, I will leave it there to fester and decay. I am hoping that the rot does not eventually make me sick or kill me, but I know that mere stink does not mean the filth is bad.
The spittle champion never
November 10, 2009 - 05:06 ET by Andrew H.The spittle champion never fails to be stupid. This so-called journalist is nothing to watch, less to read and even less to hear. Facts never get in his way. People who think never have a place on his "show." GE is doing itself proud I'm sure. Losing money on this awful network yet?
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
exactly -- it's an enigma, I tell you
November 10, 2009 - 12:52 ET by lotr"Steady." -- Keith Olbermann to Chris Matthews
I suppose it would have
November 10, 2009 - 05:33 ET by RR GOPI suppose it would have been OK for Nazi sympathizers in the United States in the 1930s and early '40s to have wired Berlin asking how they could have helped the cause of the Third Reich?
Actually, it's a crime that people like this get paid big bucks to spout off this nonsense.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Of course it's not a crime ...
November 10, 2009 - 06:08 ET by Jack Coleman... heck, Olbermann does it all the time, he's bin Laden's favorite useful idiot. No more than it's a crime to buy boxcutters and forget that one is in your pocket when you board a plane. Nor is it a crime to learn to fly a plane, even if you can't be bothered learning how to land one ...
Conundrum
November 10, 2009 - 07:04 ET by saw the light"But then we get into the business of checking out on people's thinking. And that's the problem."
And of course, after uttering this, Chris had a sudden epiphany. It is the exact thing we charge and convict people with in this country, called "hate crime" where we punsih people for what we think they were thinking.
Actually, if you said that to him after his statement, I'm pretty sure his head would explode.
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He gets paid to be this
November 10, 2009 - 07:35 ET by msh1973He gets paid to be this stupid? We have really sunk in our journalistic standards.
After my knee-jerk post (below), I see there are others on the
November 10, 2009 - 12:51 ET by lotrsame wavelength.
"Steady." -- Keith Olbermann to Chris Matthews
I do not know where to
November 10, 2009 - 08:05 ET by BDI do not know where to begin with Mathews idiocy.
In fact it IS a crime for a US military officer to contact an enemy organization during time of war with that organization. It is akin to visiting an enemy camp during the civil war. People got hanged when it became known for less.
Tip to Tingles:
November 10, 2009 - 08:10 ET by SickofLibsYou may want to have a look at your staff's business cards. If anything of them have "SoA" (Soldier of Allah) in the title like Hasan's did, that might be the time to make that call to the FBI.
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Nah, scratch that idea... it's probably now a requirement to get hired over at that slimepit.
Actually, yes it is
November 10, 2009 - 09:38 ET by RHawkinsAfter spending the past 28 years in and with the military, it is absolutely against the UCMJ to contact enemy agents. DUH! Ignore the fact it is unpatriotic, those of us who CHOSE the military know that we must live to a higher standard in many areas. The mere appearance of impropriety is also an offense. I assure you that if a military member has religious convictions that prevent them from serving, there are avenues other than murder to get out. The option of refusing an assignment is always available as well. Granted, that would have negative consequences upon a military career, but if you disagree with what your country and it's defenders do, receiving a less than honorable discharge should not prevent one from following such strongly held convictions. It's not like it is a felony offense.
As another poster said, when you are in the military, you have to assume you are being monitored. As a matter of fact, I sit at a computer with stickers on it saying that my use constitutes consent to monitoring...just like the phone on my desk also. Guess what, if you aren't doing anything wrong, then there is nothing to worry about. It amazes me when the people who complain about the government monitoring them are so vocal in saying that 'we' should have noticed and done something sooner to prevent such an incident. And also to make it politically incorrect to more closely scrutinize those that could be a higher risk is complete folly. Much like watching disheveled, furtive acting young men walk right through airport security while a 90 year old woman with a walker is being wanded. We need to use common sense in who and what we investigate and examine, not what appears to be 'fair' or PC.
OMG!
November 10, 2009 - 09:48 ET by jon_torlinI had to use that for the subject line because I honestly couldn't think of some other way to express my disbelief at this guy.
When I saw this, my first thought was "are you effing kidding me???"
The amount and level of excuses people are making for this sleeper agent is astonishing and astounding! Oh hell, call a spade a spade, it's insane!
How much more PC can you get with BS(Barbara Streisand!) like this?
-Jon
my sentiments exactly
November 10, 2009 - 12:47 ET by lotr"Steady." -- Keith Olbermann to Chris Matthews
Journalists Have No Brains!
November 10, 2009 - 10:20 ET by DaMamaI wonder if Matthews would have considered calling on Adolph Hitler a crime some 70 years ago.
thing that make you go... duh?
November 10, 2009 - 11:01 ET by CCsteelcityI would be totally embarassed as a conservative if this guy were speaking this BS on a conservative/republican news program... oh im sorry, Fox doesn't report the news.
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Dear Chris,
November 10, 2009 - 11:27 ET by nolotrippenSomeone calls you and says they have your address and they're going to hunt you down and kill you. Now, it's probably just a crank (or your boss who doesn't like your ratings) so what do you do? I mean, it's just a phone call. It's not like someone who "might" be violent would actually BE violent.
Honestly, you'd be calling the cops, learning how to use a gun, and doubling security around you.
People don't contact Al Queda to order pizza, Chris.
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Does Matthews on countdown
November 10, 2009 - 12:04 ET by wmclemoreDoes Matthews on countdown to no ratings, ever shut his damn mouth?
Does Matthews on countdown
November 10, 2009 - 12:04 ET by wmclemoreDoes Matthews on countdown to no ratings, ever shut his damn mouth?
contacting al Qaeda
November 10, 2009 - 12:37 ET by jbrucebFor a soldier, contacting al Qaeda is called consorting with the enemy. In wartime, like now, the maximum penalty is death. Which should be applied to this terrorist, and maybe Chris Matthews too.
What does one say? I'm stupefied by this clown.
November 10, 2009 - 12:38 ET by lotrEverytime I read one of these blog entries about the bombast of Chris Matthews I really find myself saying "not even worth my time to respond."
Why are they (limosine liberals like Chris) so clueless on the utter privilege afforded them by a strong U.S. military and intelligence? Here he is, spouting off inanity from the security of his New York studio, clueless to the reality that there are enemies out there who would get hard-ons while decapitating his roly-poly ass, and orgasm if they got the chance to nuke Manhattan.
The thing that perplexes me most, however, is how this privileged mediocrity actually gets paid a high salary for what amounts to excrement.
"Steady." -- Keith Olbermann to Chris Matthews
Not a Crime to Call al Qaeda...
November 10, 2009 - 13:02 ET by urbuggenmeCan you imagine the 40/11 different kinds of hell, reporting would be if someone was to locate a Glenn Beck book or find a video tape of this "alleged shooter" at a tea-party rally
Dumbest comment of the year?
November 10, 2009 - 13:03 ET by adamjw2Gotta be one of the dumbest comments of the year, and in the running for dumbest of all time. Someone nominate this guy!
I believe you just did...
November 10, 2009 - 13:04 ET by SickofLibsAnd I second it!
Sorry--still the champ
November 10, 2009 - 14:53 ET by StarAZDumbest still the leg tingle...but this is edging up on it.
Calling AQ not a crime...
November 10, 2009 - 13:37 ET by Big MommaYou're right, Chris....what's the big deal with this "alleged" shooters actions....just another right wing hosejob.
So here's the deal: because this shooter is innocent and being branded unjustly, it's time for you to step in and make things right.
Take Hasan in....surely you can arrange for a hospital bed to be put in your guest room.....let him mend and heal within the loving, warm circle of your wife, your kids, your neighbors and co-workers. Think of the culteral and political lessons he can teach your children.....imagine the stimulating intellectual fireside chats you and "Hassie" can have.
Do it, Chris, do it for your POTUS, your country and your ratings.
.......just think of the tingles.........
"Look Ma.....I'm King of the World!" B. H. Obama
"What's the big
November 10, 2009 - 14:07 ET by Six String Spiff"What's the big deal?"
Wow, will science ever be able to come up with a quantifiable metric that defines just how STUPID these liberals are?
9/11 never occurred to these people. They will never accept that terrorists a real until they are having their throats slit by one.
The MSM reaction to this story should be enough to boil anyone's blood. Mine has been at a rolling boil since the story broke. but hey now, "Lets no jump to conclusions." Even President Self Discovery is oblivious.
Hey Obama, put down the basketball, golf club, bowling ball etc, and DEFEND THIS COUNTRY LIKE YOU ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY BOUND TO DO!
Islamic Religious Services Will Be Held at the Firing Range At 0800 Daily.
Jimmy Carter
November 10, 2009 - 14:41 ET by Jerry MackKnowing that he was one of Jimmy Carters speech writers tells you a lot about him. The worst President in my life time really influenced Tingles. Seems that he is attempting to keep Carters philosopy alive.
He's struggling with it because...
November 10, 2009 - 15:05 ET by stage9..he has no basis for his beliefs. He can't call wrong, "wrong" because he has no reference point from which to label it right or wrong.
Matthews is one of these who will probably admit that he believes in God, but when you start mining down and asking for more specifics as to who he thinks God is, you'd find that his "god" is nothing more than a fuzzy idea and not actual; not Jehovah God of the Bible.
I say this because without a moral reference point - an absolute standard of righteousness that governs your thinking - you will inevitably struggle with where the moral line is drawn. Without a moral standard there can be no moral line.
Some people operate by the moral code of the Bible without even realizing it. Our culture heretofore had been heavily influenced by biblical morality even if it wasn't admitted to by the individual. There was a time for instance when mocking Jesus Christ was taboo. You dare not cross that line. But today that line no longer exists.
As we get further and further removed from that lingering moral standard, we are beginning to witness a culture that is struggling with what right and wrong even looks like anymore. Occurences like that which happened at Ft Hood are beginning to become more and more the norm.
A day or so after the Ft Hood incident, there was a shooting in Florida - a disgruntled man shot up his office building.
Today, in the news a gunman in New York held a principal of a high school hostage, angry at the current government over the war.
Why is all of this escalating? Because we have jetisoned the moral standard of God for "postmodern relativism". We are only acting out what we believe. Each is doing what is right in his own eyes.
CS Lewis once said:
“There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who say to God, "Not my will but thine be done," and those to whom reject God, and God then says to them, "All right, then, not My will but thine be done.”
We are becoming more and more like the second kind.
Matthews struggles with the question because he doesn't have a moral compass to show him the way anymore.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge
Matthews
November 10, 2009 - 15:50 ET by telecasterCriminally clueless......how this small mind stays on TV is a wonder of modern times. The world according to this ditz is world that does not exist.
Can Someone Buy Chris a Clue?
November 10, 2009 - 17:15 ET by vrwc13Can Someone Buy Chris a Clue?
...like in the old game show where one could buy a vowel, I would gladly pay for someome to put a scarlet letter 'F' on him for being a 'failure' as a real journalist.
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"We love death more then you love life!" - Major Nidal Malik Hasan (Fort Hood jihad)
vr... He is one sick
November 10, 2009 - 17:30 ET by bigtimervr...
He is one sick cookie...nothing would help him, as far as I'm concerned he is past the point of no return.
Btw...He's been slammed all over the place with this remark of his on talk radio.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
...along with the tingle down his leg..
November 10, 2009 - 17:38 ET by vrwc13...he shares this with the man in the Whitehouse...Narcissistic personality disorder:
...scores a perfect 10, allowing 2 points for number 9!
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"We love death more then you love life!" - Major Nidal Malik Hasan (Fort Hood jihad)
Chris Matthews: "That's not a crime to call al Qaeda, is is?"
November 10, 2009 - 17:40 ET by StewartIIIChickaBOOMer -- Chris Matthews: "That's not a crime to call al Qaeda, is is?"
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2009/11/chris-matthews-thats-not-crime-to-call.html
Tinglebell's Going Bald
November 10, 2009 - 17:50 ET by farstar99And he's getting more stupid every day.
I wish to God we could trade his worthless life for all those who were murdered by the cowardly Muslim.
Guess not if it's a 900 number..
November 10, 2009 - 18:04 ET by upcountrywaterHow's my shooting, call 1-900-EAT-LEAD