Perhaps this is going to be a common theme of CNN Headline News "The Joy Behar Show." For the second night in a row, two out of two shows - Behar went after the former CNN Headline News host, now Fox News host Glenn Beck as a head of the conservative movement.
On her Sept. 30 show, Behar guests included HBO "Real Time" host Bill Maher and conservative author and columnist Ann Coulter. One had a favorable view of Beck, and the other - not so much.
On Behar's first show, Bette Midler contended Beck would lead to a Rwanda-style civil war in the United States. Behar posed a similar question to Maher on her second show.
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"What do you make of all this sort of hate speech going on?" Behar asked. "I don't want to mention names but Glenn Beck is watching my show right now and it's possible that he's trying to think of new ways to yell at Obama and cause people to be raging and angry. What do you make of all of that?"
Maher gave a predictable response, branding Beck as "part of the Republican Party" as an effort to tear at it as an institution. However, he wasn't quite as eager to embrace the Democratic Party - which he could as easily be identified as being a "part." Amazingly, the HBO host labeled that political party as being "center-right."
"Well, you know, I keep saying that we don't really have a progressive party in this country," Maher responded. "Glenn Beck is part of the Republican Party. You know, the Democrats as - if you take away the few people I just mentioned before, you know, that's a center-right party."
Maher's claim was the modern Democratic Party is too connected to private industry, whereas the GOP is just a bunch of lunatics.
"They're a great party if you want to - a party to represent the pharmaceutical companies and the health insurance industry and big agriculture and all that kind of stuff," Maher continued. "And then you have the Republicans which are just a bunch of religious lunatics, Flat Earthers, Civil War re-enactors and bimbos."
Maher took it a step further with his attack on Beck with his usual hyperbolic shtick.
"It's not an ideological difference," he said. "They just don't know anything. They're bimbos. [Beck]'s a bimbo and he's a crazy one. I'm telling you - it is not that long before we're going to find Glenn Beck dressed as a woman or playing with his feces or something." Behar laughed in response said she hoped he would melt down on air, adding "that would be so much fun to watch."
However, Coulter later appeared in Behar's show and identified a possible reason those on the left were fixated on Beck. She contended it's the mission of the left to identify a leader of the opposition party and tear them down with character assaults. Behar repeated her assumption Beck was the face of the GOP.
"And also Glenn Beck, the thing with him is, now he's become the face of the Republican Party," she said.
Coulter said she "loved" Glenn Beck, despite Behar's contention he's hate-mongering. Behar asked Coulter if she was jealous of Beck. Coulter explained some of the resentment of Beck coming from all directions, including the right.
"A little bit jealous," Coulter responded. "And I think you get that with many conservatives attacking him but he isn't our leader. Rush Limbaugh isn't our leader. Michael Steele isn't our leader. Sarah Palin isn't our leader. I love them all. But we don't have a leader. A - we are a party without leaders and moreover, it's weird, this liberal obsession with tell us who your leader is and you realize why liberals want to know is because this is they argue. They find who the leader is and destroy him from Newt Gingrich to Tom Delay to Sarah Palin."
As Coulter explained - the conservative movement doesn't have a leader and the entire discussion of who the leader of it is manufactured so the left won't have to debate issues, but instead attack the character.
"So we decided we are not going with a leader this time so you are going to have to argue with us on the facts, on the issues," Coulter said.
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I worry, but hope not.
October 1, 2009 - 07:22 ET by chuckkThe most embarrassing Beck moments are when he and Bill O'Reilly are trying to do a "comedy routine." (Neither man is funny at all.)
When Glenn slinks down and puts his chin in his hand, or tries to do a clownish "double take" at the camera, I cringe.
Beck's either got to become as literate as Rush is on current events, learn to spell and become a deliberate, sincere spokesman..
or he's going the way of Ross Perot....
Seriously, come on man, DECIDE? "Morning Zoo" or serious commentator?
Don't embarrass us, Glenn.
Permanent PMS
October 1, 2009 - 07:32 ET by obageegeeJot Behar, the face of permanent PMS
chuckk
October 1, 2009 - 08:46 ET by sanergononlibi said it below and i'll say it again, you are either a wuss or a faux intellectual (or both)
Actually, he is the kind of
October 1, 2009 - 08:58 ET by Mr. ProsodyActually, he is the kind of conservative espousing the concern more conservatives should.
Beck's salience is often undermined by the overly-energetic, buffoonish sarcasm he imparts to deride the opposition's expected reaction; instead of underlining the subject at hand, it induces cringing.
If one is considered a "wuss" or intellectually dishonest for not wanting truth to be overshadowed by antics, I'm sure "chuckk" would gladly acceptsuch monikers.
Thank you
October 1, 2009 - 09:09 ET by chuckkI'm hoping for a complete reversal of congress in 2010.. I'd be pleased for almost any conservative to re-take the presidency in 2012.
Rush is always amazingly cogent and fact-based, Glenn sometimes comes off as silly. Sean Hannity even lapses into egotism in lieu of substantive arguments for the cause.
I appreciate that someone sees that buffoonery is not the best approach.
Why? Why does Beck
October 1, 2009 - 08:57 ET by MazziWhy? Why does Beck have to "become" anything? He seems to be filling a void exactly as he is.
If you don't like him, turn him off. If you prefer Limbaugh, listen to him. That's the beauty of America - we (still) have the freedom to choose.
No matter what his theatrics, Beck backs up what he says with documentation - that's what really matters.
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Beck, Limbaugh, Levin, Coulter, et al
October 1, 2009 - 07:37 ET by legacyrepublicanThese people are commentators on politics. Behar and Maher are commentators on politics.
Behar is mad because she is not getting as many viewers who are passionate as the other guys.
It is so simple that it eludes her.
Wow
October 1, 2009 - 07:41 ET by srqvetNice to see Joy and Bill raise the level of political discourse. <sarc off> No facts, unlike Beck, simply vitrol.
Glenn has these commies on the run. The truth is hitting them right between the eyes.
They are trying to "Alinsky" Beck, but he won't back down. They are also trying to Alinsky those pesky people with conservative values. We won't back down either! Keep it up haters as your childish arguments are really going to win us over.
Racists.
"They are trying to
October 1, 2009 - 08:01 ET by celator"They are trying to "Alinsky" Beck"
That's exactly what is going on. We can see the coordinated efforts throughout the lefty wacko media, all in tune, all in step. Doing as they are told.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Spot on
October 1, 2009 - 08:06 ET by ApodicticThey have yet to question the validity of his findings - only attack and marginalize the messenger. If he's wrong, then prove it.
RULE 13 FROM ALINSKY...
October 1, 2009 - 08:22 ET by danybhoyThat is the plan, attack whoever is saying what they don't like. Rule 13 is this, pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, & polarize it. The problem is that way too many are on to the game, this is a tactic that is losing it's effectiveness.
The left also hates having Alinsky's rules against them. It pisses them off.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
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Nutz
October 1, 2009 - 07:49 ET by Red JeepGlenn Beck and Sarah Palin just drive the libtards nutz. It is a wonderful thing!
Hear, Hear!
October 1, 2009 - 08:25 ET by expatriotYes indeedy. And with Sarah now #1 at Amazon and Barnes and Noble with preorders it will really push them over the edge.
I forgot...
October 1, 2009 - 15:08 ET by Red JeepMichelle Bachman
mmmm, mmmm, mmmm, Barack Hussein Obama
October 1, 2009 - 08:16 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsGlenn Beck? I thought the Progressives had banded together ("We Are The World") and through their vastly superior group intelligence had convinced all advertisers to stop running ads on Beck's show, thus cutting off his funds and putting him out of business. I mean, they are the smartest people in the world so their plan had to work. Maybe Fox is just showing reruns and none of the stupid viewers have caught on.
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another take down...
October 1, 2009 - 08:20 ET by sarainitalyAll they know how to do is make personal attacks... avoid and attack, avoid and attack.
"Glenn Beck is watching my
October 1, 2009 - 08:30 ET by rwesley"Glenn Beck is watching my show right now"
That statement alone shows how separated this broad is from reality.
Hmmmm
October 1, 2009 - 08:31 ET by Alpedhuez55Put Glenn Beck in a Red Wig and Lipstick...and I bet he could pass for Joy Behar.
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Wait - I thought that
October 1, 2009 - 08:37 ET by MazziWait - I thought that "dressing like a woman" was cool with the left, so long as it's a man doing it.
Anyway - the left's hypocrisy is beyond transparent. Most conservatives couldn't care less what Beck does "after hours" so long as it doesn't hurt innocent people. The "liberals" - the ones who spout everyone's right to be as perverted and depraved as possible- are the ones who mock people for such behavior.
They still haven't realized that those of us who used to just get irritated or ignore them when they are so hypocritical, have changed. They are digging their own graves.
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Maher and Behar
October 1, 2009 - 08:38 ET by dr-goare two of the most informed and intelligent of the cable opinion hosts that CNN and HBO could find to fill their time slots. However, that does not mean that the sadistic few who form opinions after listening to these two cannot emerge from their stupor of ignorance. What is it about me and my ilk that these folks hate so much?
chuckk
October 1, 2009 - 08:41 ET by sanergononlibyou are either a wuss or a faux intellectual (or both)
Maybe.. either or both
October 1, 2009 - 08:49 ET by chuckkBut can you deal specifically with my observations?
Chuckk, he doesn't have to.
October 1, 2009 - 09:17 ET by TenebrousChuckk, he doesn't have to. He called you names like you called someone else names. That's the extent of your logic, and so it's the extent of his. Case closed. You lose.
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hmm..name calling?
October 1, 2009 - 09:25 ET by chuckkWhat "names" did I call anyone?
Joy's Wig Handed to her on a room service tray....
October 1, 2009 - 08:55 ET by chuckkLOL you go Anne! Perfectly prepared and factual as always..
You made Joy look like she didn't even memorize her talking points!
Joyless Numbers
October 1, 2009 - 08:59 ET by Red JeepOpening night total viewers: 559,000 ( about ½ of 1/3 of 1% of the country) . 25-54= 215,000. 35-64= 321,000. Source: TV by the Numbers
Joy Behar is a Meatheat (USDA - Dead From the Neck - UP)
October 1, 2009 - 09:08 ET by MCLANTIEREListening to Joy Behar will make anyone (with a brain) wonder: is CNN so berift of TV personalities that they has to scrape this moron from the refuse to be a host. Is there NO ONE else?
She thinks people actually watch her! I picked this article up to see Ann Coulter! Discussing important issues with her would be like reading to your DOG! Behar has something spoken to her by anyone, and her head tilts -- exactly like a dog! She's a BOOB! She's nothing more than a old Italian woman with some cleavage -- (just like the old grandmothers, she's probably got an entire box of Kleenex stashed down there!) YUCK!
And hearing Bill Maher talk about finding Glenn Beck dressing as a woman or playing with his feces ... sounds like Maher is doing a little PROJECTION! I guess time will tell, won't it Bill?
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Why not
October 1, 2009 - 09:18 ET by theduck6every day Behar and Midler dress up as women and throw proverbial feces.
When wingnuts interview wingnuts why is there surprise they say stupid poo?
If you don't like Beck,
October 1, 2009 - 09:22 ET by TenebrousIf you don't like Beck, don't watch him.
If you don't like Coulter, don't read her.
If you don't like O'Reilly, don't watch him.
If you don't like Savage, don't listen to him.
Grow up and learn how to change that channel!
The world does not exist to serve you with delicacies on a silver platter. You'd think that conservatives would know that instinctively.
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The left is waaay to scared
October 1, 2009 - 14:23 ET by Radical1979The left is waaay to scared of Beck and Sarah Palin not to attack them. Notice how the attacks on O'Reilly have stopped? That's because he's giving Obama a pass on pretty much everything. Beck is exposing a lot that the left doesn't want known, so they're out for blood.
Behar, Mahar
October 1, 2009 - 09:27 ET by cajun2Choose... Behar, Maher, Chris Tingles, OOberdorf, Wolfie, Shultzie, or Stoney Lauer. Lets see.................I go with Beck.
Ratings
October 1, 2009 - 09:40 ET by OxyConOver time, I'd like to see a comparion of Behar's ratings compared to the ratings Beck got when he was on the same network. That would be interesting to see who draws more viewers.
"I don't want to mention
October 1, 2009 - 10:02 ET by Reaver"I don't want to mention names but Glenn Beck…”
For not wanting to mention any names she sure did seem eager to throw that one on the table. The sad thing is she talks like this all the time.
I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me. - Hunter S. Thompson
Isn't her show canceled yet?
October 1, 2009 - 10:23 ET by averageschmoeWait til the ratings come in.
She will be replaced by Christmas and they will have plenty of excuses.
OK, lefties here's how it is: Beck's the hammer, Coulter's...
October 1, 2009 - 10:28 ET by wnaegele...the sickle -- and your the fodder. You DO understand that, don't you?
It's a condition from which
October 1, 2009 - 10:35 ET by Mr. ProsodyIt's a condition from which Ms. Coulter also suffers -- the overarching need to wheedle the opposition in a way that makes all conservatives (as she is a symbol of the modern conservative movement) sound trite and mean-spirited.
I'm all for an opportune zinger, but Ms. Coulter's tend to come off as exceedingly cruel, even when read/heard in context. At times, she seems to be more concerned about putting a heel on the wound than allowing her intellectual capacity to burke the subject at hand.
The Left's mirror mouthpieces do the same thing, the most eye-roll worthy being Ms. Maddow's faux-incredulous, Glenn Beck-like mugging. It renders solid observations to appear to be nothing but reciprocal jestering.
EDIT: This was intended as a reply to chuckk's reply to me above. Sorry.
→ Prosody
October 1, 2009 - 10:39 ET by Cool ArrowI wouldn't change her wit a bit.
Ann Coulter
October 1, 2009 - 15:10 ET by rockyracoonMe neither, CA, I love her and love that she comes at these libtards with both barrels. If others find her too tough on the Dem/liebs tough, change the channel.
Gooooo Annie!!!!
the anti-Coulter...
October 1, 2009 - 21:23 ET by JerWell, you might consider the fact that that is the very reason a good many on the left love Olbermann and his ilk--for going after the right wingnuts with both barrels. Let's all give each other hell, and then, with sputtering indignation, slam the 'other' side for doing so.
Jer
My, my - such high-toned language.
October 1, 2009 - 19:14 ET by BO STINKSMust, first of all compliment your ability to use the English language, Mr. P.
Perhaps you could give an example of Ann Coulter's 'wheedling.' I don't think that word means what you think it means! Ann uses a hammer to make her point and good on her!
"How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!" Sam Adams
Two things
October 1, 2009 - 13:54 ET by Tom in NC1. Beck would probably look better in a dress than Behar on her best day.
2. The only difference between Behar and Maher and a bag of sh*t, is the bag.
Behar, you dreadful, vulgar cow
October 1, 2009 - 10:49 ET by carolina09Maher is fixated on his own poop. That's Behar's idea of class.
"So we decided we are not going with a leader this time so you are going to have to argue with us on the facts, on the issues," Coulter said.
Spot on. There's a world full of political commentary in this one statement. The power of Alinsky is in focusing on an individual, because individuals can feel pain and institutions can't. For decades we've been lashed with Alinsky's whip and now it can't touch us because we have no leader, yet we are more effective every day.
Pervs like Maher are then left to rant about all us t-partiers and make wildly insulting characterizations about what amounts to a potential huge audience for Behar. This is an attempt to make millions of people into a single individual that they can then pummel. Her show will never be relevant.
I have two things in my
October 1, 2009 - 10:59 ET by black47211I have two things in my pocket for Maher and Behar: Bubble gum and feces. And I'm fresh outta bubble gum.
Who are these people and why should we even care? The last funny thing I saw Maher in was "DC Cab" in the 80's.
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pocket contents
October 1, 2009 - 14:13 ET by konoIs that why you got the elevator to yourself this morning at work? Dude, deliver the feces to 'em before lunchtime, ok?
(Or don't even bother -- both of them are totally full of it already...)
Bill Maher is an
October 1, 2009 - 11:36 ET by fitzfongBill Maher is an intellectual lightweight who has found his niche acting as if he's intelligent by dropping faux-whistleblower one-liners to an audience of mouth breathers. It's easy to come off as a genius if your studio audience consists of drunken, intellectually underdeveloped frat boys trying to get the sorority chicks to sleep with them by pretending to be vocal feminists. Of course, their attempts usually fail, as the bimbos they seek are too busy giving it up to their professors...no quid pro quo, of course. As an unapologetic advocate for that child rapist Roman Polanski, Maher knows that if the feminist chat up routine doesn't work with the Bunnies, champagne works pretty well with quaaludes.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Maher at his scatological best
October 1, 2009 - 14:05 ET by Captain KirockAgreed. Maher has always played to the lowest common denominator while trying to dress it up as witty intellectual banter. His scatological reference shows his true medium.
Maher is good at one thing though: making stupid, uneducated, out of touch Hollywood wannabies feel like their smart.
Maher's tragic existence
October 1, 2009 - 14:39 ET by konoMaher is a dick.
(Too bad for him that's IS and not HAS.)
Ahoy, Cap'n... Let me
October 1, 2009 - 15:03 ET by JerAhoy, Cap'n...
Let me toss you a line:
Maher is good at one thing though: making stupid, uneducated, out of touch Hollywood wannabies feel like their smart[ass persona implies intellectual superiority].
(Hope you don't mind. It was an excellent post.)
Jer
By all means Jer
October 1, 2009 - 17:02 ET by Captain KirockMuch better statement my friend.
Maher brings new definition to the term pseudo-intellectual.
Republicans and Beck
October 1, 2009 - 12:15 ET by nadadhimmiI maintain The GOP dislikes and fears Beck as much as do the Dems. Beck knows, and exposes dailey the collusion between parties in spending, civil liberty destruction etc. The Gop is trying to co-opt and control the Teaparty movement to re- establish their own personal power and eviscerate any return to Constitutional principles. The Teaparty movement will have to evolve it's own leaders and absorb the GOP, not the other way around. Beware the Party hacks like Steele, Army etc. They are Vampires to this movement.
birds of a feather
October 1, 2009 - 13:34 ET by texan1953You'll notice that Behar and Maher never argue the facts. They just go into some pseudo intellectual drool fest and go into usual hate mode. As liberals go... they tend to void and vacant when it comes to an acutal debate. Sadly those that listen to these pitiful people are of like mind. It saddens me that so many people within the democratic have become mind-numbed robots. Saddens me more that these same people vote and have children.
You didn't think O'Reilly was a little teeny funny....
October 1, 2009 - 15:01 ET by StarAZI laughed when O'Reilly and Miller got going on an Obama Olympics--with Rev Wright giving the blessing (God DAMN, America! Bill crowed). Bill Ayres would bring the flaming torch, Miller said. Etc. I must be as childish as Glenn.
Maher/
October 1, 2009 - 15:41 ET by salineWhen someone like Maher or Behar say such vile things, I always wonder what their parenting was like. I wouldn't dream of talking the way they do at home, much less in public, and neither would my children. It must be miserable being a liberal.
I'm sure Behar and Maher
October 1, 2009 - 16:03 ET by George S PattonI'm sure Behar and Maher know all about eating feces, both continually perform analingus on obama.
Yeah, but I can laugh at
October 1, 2009 - 21:38 ET by RR GOPYeah, but I can laugh at these two because they're really pretty funny looking, have no talent, and judging how the stock market's been looking and how the oh-so brilliant economists were apparently wrong about the recession being over, the gravy train for these losers may, hopefully, soon be coming to an end.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.