Update at bottom (2:03 p.m.): Beck fires back
It's just what the primetime cable news lineup needed - another hour-long program tilted toward left-of-center politics with character assassination on conservatives.
CNN Headline News debuted its "The Joy Behar Show" on Sept. 29, which included appearances by lefty comedian Jeanane Garofalo, CNN's Jack Cafferty and actress Bette Midler. Garofalo doubled down on her low regard for conservative 9/12 and tea party protesters, labeling them as racists. Cafferty went after President Barack Obama for his disregard of the carbon footprint his lobbying efforts in Copenhagen for Chicago to host the 2016 Summer Olympics.
However, actress-turned-Vegas entertainer Bette Midler went straight after former CNN Headline News host Glenn Beck. She was prodded by host Joy Behar, who mentioned Beck as someone who is encouraging a breakdown in so-called "political discourse."
"Someone like Glenn Beck has made gazillions of dollars because he's out there being sort of hateful in many ways," Behar said. "He calls himself a clown and a comedian. Do you think it's funny?"
Midler confirmed what one would probably expect - she's not a fan of Beck at all.
"I don't think he's funny even a little bit," Midler said. "I've never had a laugh from Glenn Beck. In fact, I find him terrifying. I find him terrifying. He's like an old school demagogue, and it's really frightening."
What did Midler compare Beck to? She likened the popular Fox News host to the instigators of the Rwandan civil war, which was the catalyst for the Rwandan genocide where an estimated 800,000 to 1 million lost their lives.
"If you look around at the rest of the world and what this kind of behavior has done, like in Rwanda, where the demagogues got on the radio and fomented all that hate between the Tutsis and the Hutus and the devastation that happened from that, I mean, it's terrifying," Midler said.
According to Midler, that's a possibility in the United States.
"And that could happen, you know, you could turn on a dime," Midler warned. "That could happen here."
Behar reminded Midler the United States is a society that has free speech. However, according to Midler Beck isn't exercising free speech. He exercising hate speech she maintained.
"I don't think hate speech is so free," Midler said. "I'm not for censorship. But I also feel like, be a human being."
Behar explained basic civics to Midler - that what she deems "hate speech" is constitutionally protected. Midler blamed the education system for that sort of rhetoric.
"I think that the people who are educated to be civil are civil," Midler continued. "That's all there is to it. And people who are not educated in any way, who are just a little on the barbaric side, what can you do? But that's the fault of the education system, I think, and the way they're brought up."
*****Update: Beck responded on his Sept. 30 radio show to Midler's accusations.




















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September 30, 2009 - 06:59 ET by OneCleverCookieAmazing that Joy & Bette ignore the Rwandan-esque incident that took place in Chicago last week when the young student was bludgeoned to death by two rival Chicago street gangs.
Howard Dean and Public Discourse
September 30, 2009 - 07:22 ET by allanfIf the concern is purely about public discourse here are some quotes from fromer DNC chair Howard Dean.
Dr. Dean
September 30, 2009 - 07:33 ET by nandrelliis a Douchebag.
'Scuse me. That's Dr.
September 30, 2009 - 07:59 ET by FeynmanFan'Scuse me. That's Dr. Douchebag.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Just like the rest of...
September 30, 2009 - 07:47 ET by Apodictic... the Celeb-Illiterati, the resonate on a closed frequency - understood only by those who suffer from the same madness.
"I don't think hate speech
September 30, 2009 - 07:00 ET by Newsbusterbrown"I don't think hate speech is so free," Midler said. "I'm not for censorship. But I also feel like, be a human being."
Um, is that a "yes" for censorship, Bette?
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Bette Midler comments on current events
September 30, 2009 - 07:04 ET by FeynmanFan*yawn*
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Miss Midler, could you sing
September 30, 2009 - 07:14 ET by HockeyKidMiss Midler, could you sing "The Rose" now, please?
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Yawn is the proper response
September 30, 2009 - 08:49 ET by celatorYawn is the proper response here. ;=]
What I'm trying to figure out is the sequence and order of these Hollywood geniuses, as they waddle and crawl up to the microphone to talk about Beck.
Is it on the basis of height? Short ones speak first, tall ones later?
Is it age? Younger ones first and old used-to-be types last?
Dumb ones first, and really dumb ones later?
Is is education? Those who have made it to the 8th grade go first, and those who attended high school for at least a year go next?
Can't figure it out the order of appearance yet. At any rate, they are all trained seals for the radical left, that's obvious. Honk honk honk.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Bette Midler?
September 30, 2009 - 07:06 ET by client8She's still alive? And Behar is as dumb as a box of rocks, as evidenced by her continued befuddlement on The View.
Is it 2012 yet?
September 30, 2009 - 07:06 ET by neripowellWith our Hollywood Betters cheering for child-rapist Polanski and Midler predicting genocide b/c Beck is on TV, I think we can safely say that our elites have lost all sense of perspective. In fact, they have sold what little credibility they had left.
It's time to put the adults back in-charge. 2012 can't come fast enough.
Fr. Philip, OP
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Thank You Bette!
September 30, 2009 - 07:14 ET by GeneralAl"I think that the people who are educated to be civil are civil," Midler continued. "That's all there is to it. And people who are not educated in any way, who are just a little on the barbaric side, what can you do? But that's the fault of the education system, I think, and the way they're brought up."
In other words, the people on the left are uneducated, after all, they are the ones acting uncivil and barbaric! It is those of us on the right who are civil and, therefore the educated!
Way to go Miss Midler!
Geee....lets see the world
September 30, 2009 - 08:08 ET by BDGeee....lets see the world according to Bette.
Tea Party protestors = Non Violent, clean, and well mannered = BAD!
Leftists and anarchists in Pittsburg = Violent, dirty, and angry = Good!
Thank you Bette for such obvious logic.
Wonder if
September 30, 2009 - 18:23 ET by panzerakcBette knows that the root word of "barbarian" means "noble foreigner"?
I believe Julius Caesar first used the word, describing the Celts he encountered when invading Britain.
Behar's first show features
September 30, 2009 - 07:13 ET by HockeyKidBehar's first show features Garofalo, Cafferty, and Midler? Yeah, this is gonna be a real balanced sort of a program, all right. And "Chaz" Bono's gonna be Miss America.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Is it me or are these show
September 30, 2009 - 07:16 ET by rockyracoonIs it me or are these show business people becoming more & more unhinged?
Projection is one of the lieberal's greatest skills, no matter how looney they sound, they can't keep it themselves.
What I think most worries these lieberals, is that they find that Beck is making sense, and connecting with people and they are starting to listen and agree with him more and more. The truth and the facts are like kryptonite to the lieberal.
So the only lieberal defence seems to be, attack, accuse, and project dire consequenses if they don't get their way.
It's not you.
September 30, 2009 - 07:20 ET by FeynmanFanIt's not you. You have it exactly right.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Oh man....
September 30, 2009 - 07:18 ET by superconThat was painful to watch. I don't know what was worse. Beyhar sputtering concern about people being paid a gazillion dollars to rant and spew hyperbole or Midler trying to appear as if she is up on what goes on in the world by citing Rwanda from 16 years ago. She couldn't come up with a more recent example of genocide or murder...? She should stick to singing.
" if Republicans are able to stop Barack Obama on health care, 'it will be his Waterloo, it will break him...." -Sen. Jim DeMint
Lovin It
September 30, 2009 - 07:20 ET by srqvetSince the loony left is talking about Glenn he must be making a real impact. Way to go Glenn! Keep up the pressure America!
Just wondering
September 30, 2009 - 07:21 ET by srhoadesWho is Betty Miller and why should we care?
More cowbell
September 30, 2009 - 07:22 ET by KC MulvilleWho's requesting more Behar?
There goes another
September 30, 2009 - 07:26 ET by MazziThere goes another celebrity off of my very short list. I always sort of liked Bette, it's a shame that she felt the need to use her recognition to push politics.
Nothing personal Celebrities, but you are NOT the people I go to to get my ideals, morals and values. You are who I turn to to be entertained. (And that includes Chuck Norris and others on the conservative side.)
I mean, come on - as a group celebrities are not the brightest bulbs in the candleabra, they are narcissists (no wonder they are libs, lol), and they are willing to live in the hedonistic cesspool of Hollywood - hardly the best of attributes for values.
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Butte Middler
September 30, 2009 - 07:26 ET by kilrod{"What did Midler compare Beck to? She likened the popular Fox News host to the instigators of the Rwandan civil war, which was the catalyst for the Rwandan genocide where an estimated 800,000 to 1 million lost their lives."}
("Butte Middler"), might be a "typo". Well Butte, why did'nt you and Dildo Bill, and Hog Hil and the rest of your buddies jump into the Rwandan "thing" and do something about it while you had the "powweerr".!!~~!!
(grins) kilrod
If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,??
Glen Beck and Midler/Behar/Garofolo
September 30, 2009 - 07:30 ET by nandrelliWhether you like Glenn Beck or not, you have to admit that he is doing a lot of research and presenting facts (how else could he draw all those charts on his blackboard?).
The facts just happen to be inconvenient for the lefties who are trying to take absolute control in this country, now even going after kindergarten kids whit North Korean style song praising the Dear Leader. That's why they hate him.
Astute observation
September 30, 2009 - 07:30 ET by cman70"I think that the people who are educated to be civil are civil,"
Midler continued. "That's all there is to it. And people who are not
educated in any way, who are just a little on the barbaric side, what
can you do? But that's the fault of the education system, I think, and
the way they're brought up."
I think that sums up society in general pretty well. But don't think for one second it only applies to one side of the politcal spectrum.
Two quick points
September 30, 2009 - 07:47 ET by dmntd1Two quick points:
1) Now that the right has begun to use Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" to great affect, it seems the left is going insane. They can't handle us dishing out to them, that which they've dished out to us in the past. Difference is, ours is based on historical fact, logic and research, and their's is based on feelings, celebrity and the ability to speak lucidly.
2) It keeps getting pointed out that the problem is with our education system. A system that has been started, grown and full of far-left progressive idiots for the past God-knows-how-many years. They're realizing the problem, but shifting the blame (as is normal for their ilk) to the wrong people.
WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare,
Alinskyism and conservatism are mutually exclusive
September 30, 2009 - 12:57 ET by lotrThey are diametrically opposed. Alinksy was the lowest form of human organism: (1) he rejected objective truth as pertains to morality and ethics, (2) he taught that "the ends justifies the means," (3) as a corollary, he also taught that "ridicule is man's most potent weapon" -- in other words, ad hominem attacks are legitimate. These Alinsky sophisms, among others, are anathema to anything resembling conservative (rational) thought and ethics. Unfortunately, we cannot ourselves stoop to this without compromising our very souls. We cannot use the "Ring of Power" for our own purposes, no matter how noble, without it corrupting. Remember: Alinsky dedicated his book to The Father of Lies.
What has changed, however, that is driving the left insane, is that many (but not all) of us are on to them -- Alinsky's rules work best when the other side is blindsided, that is, when good faith is assumed.
"Steady." -- Keith Olbermann to Chris Matthews
Vagina Monologue sequel...
September 30, 2009 - 07:48 ET by Mitch NJcall it the "Anus Diatribe".
Anything that liberals do not like to hear they call "hate speech". That the words and ideas are truthful is irrelevant, if it challenges their world view, they hate it.
If there is any violence, as the liberals increasingly allude to, perhaps it is them that should be fearful. What will happen when the impoverished inner-city poor Blacks, Browns and Whites realize that it was the policies of liberal democrats that have institutionalized inner-city poverty and the dead-end condition they find themselves?
Liberals ameliorate their guilt by redistributing wealth through the force of government. That Glenn Beck points this out is only "hate speech" by those that hate the truth.
This made me lol. Hard :D
September 30, 2009 - 08:30 ET by Mike SargentThis made me lol. Hard :D
To Quote Homer Simpson
September 30, 2009 - 07:57 ET by nadadhimmi"Rock stars, is there ANYTHING they don't know?"
If only she'd sung the
September 30, 2009 - 07:58 ET by JasonCIf only she'd sung the definitive version of Moon River, then her opinion might be listening to. Or if her ill-informed remarks came from the right, that'd be okay too. But as it is, I am so sick of celebrities telling me how to think, by God!
Where is George Costanza
September 30, 2009 - 08:10 ET by FirmwormWhere is George Costanza when we need him?
I hope someone is tracking
September 30, 2009 - 08:10 ET by nicksmith112I hope someone is tracking the race card players?
CNN & MSNBC started the race stuff. Both featured guests and hosts saying that the non Obama believers are racist and want him dead.
Even begala, carville, and gergen exclusively play the race card these days.
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
→ Bette
September 30, 2009 - 08:12 ET by Cool ArrowBlack people aren't much listening to Beck.
Explain how Glenn is going to cause America's blacks to take up machete's and hack each other up as happened in Rwanda.
America is already so riddled with Democrat-fostered black on black crime now that it's become another sacrament of the left.
If more black people
September 30, 2009 - 08:32 ET by mattmIf more black people listened to Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Elder, Parker, Ingraham, etc., they would be more and better informed, and less likely to be influenced by demagogues like Obama, Farrakhan, Wright, Jackson, X, and their local gang chieftans, and would live more successful and peaceable lives.
Liberalism denies God and morality and thus leads to a breakdown of society which leads to crime and despair and invites war and unrest.
It is people like Bette Midler who will bring about a civil war, not people like Beck.
She can't laugh because...
September 30, 2009 - 08:14 ET by urbuggenmeShe can't laugh at Glenn because no one has played "Tootsy" (Tutsis) with her "Whotoo" (Hutus) in years... There is no way Glenn is "terrifying" ... couldn't be any more terrifying than looking in the mirror and seeing herself looking back!
Nope Bug She can't laugh.....
September 30, 2009 - 12:34 ET by connman...because her face has been tightly stretched up behind the ears. If I wasn't told I would barely recognize her. Use to like the old nasty funny Bette but now she feels the importance to speak out for her beloved country.
Saw an interview with Bette a good 18- 20 years ago where she said that she'd married settled down with family and was becoming more conservative. I guess that didn't work out to good for her and her Libtard Hollywood friends. I think its great that they're Demonizing Beck its Great for his ratings.
I wonder if you did a nexis search on Midler and Rwanda if you'd come with any hits (preferably when it actually happened) my guess is that all you'd come up with is the Joy Behar show.
Pssssst <whispers> Emperor Barry isn't wearing any clothes!
Of Course
September 30, 2009 - 08:27 ET by 10ksnookerBut so can stealing other people's wealth so you can give it away ... Which is what I belive they did in Rwanda, and Zimbabwe, and Venezuela ... Tin-pot two-bit dictatrs seem to all have the same plans.
And it really doesn mean you do it directly by confiscation, or writing racism into the health care bills and redistributing wealth that way.
Who watches this creepy show anyway?
Does It Ever Stop?
September 30, 2009 - 08:27 ET by BourbeauWhy is it that cable networks give mentally challenged hosts like Joy Behar a platform to interview has beens like Bette Midler, thinking Ms Midler has something of value to add to the public discourse? If Joy Behar had any sense in between her ears, she'd invite Glenn Beck on to her show, but that would require some thought on her part. The reason this will never happen is Ms. Behar, as with many of those with similar leanings, would not dare engage a Glenn Beck for fear of being embarassed in her own den of stupidity with her limited understanding of the world.
Poor Bette
September 30, 2009 - 08:28 ET by sara123The only ones who have talked about political violence are the Leftists. The only ones who have committed political violence and rights violations at the tea parties are Leftist Union and ACORN thugs. The only ones who are loud and proud of being racists and who express violent race-based intentions are Leftists. These limo-liberals are letting American-Americans know that either we get in line with their Marxist Utopia and total power and shut up about it, or they are going to instigate race violence against us the way they did in the 60's and 70's.
BETTE MIDLER? JOY BEHAR?
September 30, 2009 - 08:46 ET by theduck6what the *&%$ are the qualifications of either of these airheads to speak about anything outside their tiny sphere of expertise?
Behar, minimally funny stand up
Midler, has-been darling of the bathhouse set
"from a distance I can see your a fool
and all your friends are dorks."
Y'know, it occurs to me that
September 30, 2009 - 08:56 ET by Mike SargentY'know, it occurs to me that this viewpoint is actually very well-thought-out, once you warp your thinking into a full Garafolo Delusion.
Think about it. Garafolo believes we're all racists. Suspend your knowledge and ignore the entire history of the Republican party, just for the sake of that argument, just so we can make this argument work (snicker).
The Rwandan genocide was perpetrated by the radical Hutus (an ethnic group which was mainly relagated to being countrified, agragrian types) against moderate Hutus and the ruling Tutsis. It was done by inflaming racial tensions between Hutus and Tutsis. Assuming, against all evidence, that people who listen to Beck are racists to begin with, one can see how this conclusion might be drawn.
Except for a few important details. The Hutus were essentially oppressed through a caste system; cutting off all hope of economic class mobility, and most hope of gaining political power. They were literally second-rate citizens -- which shifted quickly in favor of the Hutus at the end of Belgian colonial rule. And then, as happens often in depressed countries, a military general (and Hutu) overthrew the sitting Rwandan President (also a Hutu). This instability led to worsening conditions within the country, and resulted in the new government using racial tensions to divide the country in their favor.
Hmm. That doesn't sound like Beck.
Hutu Power, as it were, was an ideology that quickly gained sway within the Rwandan government. The government used the state-owned and -operated media (radio and television) to broadcast this hatred in the name of the government.
Wait. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Obama Administration is essentially ignoring the existence of Fox News, with the notable exception of complaining about them whenever they're forced to fire someone like Van Jones. That doesn't sound like government-sponsored hatred to me -- it sounds more like public vetting. I will note, however, that the Obama Administration hasn't yet complained about CNN calling us "teabaggers." They haven't complained about Ed Schultz saying that we want -- actually actively desire -- for people to die of a horribly painful, incurable disease. And they haven't complained about Garafolo calling us racists. Which we're not. Nor should we ever be.
So now the line is more blurred. Which of us are the Tutsis, and which are the Hutus? We don't own the media. We haven't said anything about liberals that they don't routinely say about us (and we routinely decline to respond in kind!). This fearmongering is ridiculous. Behar should be ashamed for not knowing this. I, for one, resent being compared to the genocidal maniacs who destroyed Rwanda.
Tea Party envy at the View,
September 30, 2009 - 08:57 ET by 10ksnookerTea Party envy at the View, it shows...
Actually, I am trying to
September 30, 2009 - 09:01 ET by ConservativeRexActually, I am trying to form a new party in this country: 'The Educated Barbarians' Our policy statement, if we were ever to utter that phrase, would be to stomp liberals to a fine grit. Of course all of this stomping would be done after several rounds of intelligent discourse with any and all Hollywood types to get their views on the stomping they are about to receive. We may be Barbarians and all, but we are not meanies. All opposing views will be duly noted and disposed of as quickly as possible. We only ask for the very same hearings that the liberal intelligencia currently gives us. Again, Barbarians, not meanies. We intend to fully reciprocate all that we have received from the liberals.
Anyone want to lay odds....
September 30, 2009 - 09:06 ET by Prester John....on the likelihood that Midler can even find Rwanda on a map?
Actually, this is
September 30, 2009 - 09:09 ET by TenebrousActually, this is completely unlikely because Americans don't use machetes as their weapon of choice; Americans don't belong to tribes; and furthermore, there is zero desire on the right to engage in mass butchery of mindless leftists (it would be wasting effort, not to mention good bullets). The only truth in what Midler said is that the left is by and large defenseless. That sort of thing happens when you foreswear self-defense, guys.
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A way for CNN to save money
September 30, 2009 - 09:18 ET by JeffC...CNN could have saved money by broadcasting MSNBC's feed with CNN's news crawl. I don't think anyone would have noticed any difference.
You know, hardly a day
September 30, 2009 - 09:45 ET by Kat Outta the BagYou know, hardly a day passes when I don't wonder: "What would Bette Midler think of this?"
/sarc
WWBMT? I have the
September 30, 2009 - 10:46 ET by black47211WWBMT?
I have the bracelet and the matching Bible cover. It's all the rage, dontcha know. Ha!
http://www.pelicanmarsh68.blogspot.com
Citizen Commentators Unite!
Well, let's see. Bette
September 30, 2009 - 09:52 ET by AlanaWell, let's see. Bette graduated high school in Honolulu, according to Wikipedia. She majored in drama at the University of Hawaii, but only went there for three semesters.
That is the sum total of her education. So I'm supposed to listen to her? I don't think so.
The sad part is that the list of actors, singers, etc. who couldn't think their way out of paper bags and who think their fans are yahoos is growing. Lots of my favorites have become people whose movies and albums I won't spend money on anymore.
And believe me, I will not.
Midler
September 30, 2009 - 10:38 ET by charlietexasMore jibberish from Macaroni Midler. If she even watches Beck for 30 seconds, he is just asking questions and doing investigative analysis. He is uncovering what she is covering (like a cat covering up his/her excrement). It is so revealing about entertainers and people on the left. Its ok for them to spew filth at the camera, just don't spew it back.
Additional comment
September 30, 2009 - 10:41 ET by charlietexasBy the way, did you see the time slot they gave Belching Joy? Opposite Larry cadaver King and Hannity? I think Maddow is on MSNBC. She won't last long having mental midgets like Garafalo and Midler. she won't last long anyway. Who is running CNN? Are they just throwing poop on the wall to see if it sticks?
LOL-I wondered what that foul stench was last time I was at CNN
September 30, 2009 - 11:29 ET by R D HelmThanks for clearing that up.
-Dave
The election of 2010 will be our last chance to save our republic. -Neal Boortz
Is it just me, or have I
September 30, 2009 - 10:57 ET by black47211Is it just me, or have I been hearing more from the left about some kind of impending Civil War than from the right?
I thought the right was supposed to be full of militiamen and extremists, making plans to overthrow the government and the left was all about hugs, rainbows, unicorns and Disney movies?
I guess I need to dig deeper and find these radical rightists and their insane plots to foment Civil War, and alert the authorities. Or I could just let the left do that for me, since apparently they are up on this kind of thing.
http://www.pelicanmarsh68.blogspot.com
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You are correct. In West
September 30, 2009 - 12:57 ET by Carl KolchakYou are correct. In West Germany the left wing RAF thought they would start a revolution and went around killing people.
From the link below.
" The gang, founded in 1971 by Ulrike Meinhof and Andreas Baader, an attention-seeking school drop-out, had grown out of the 1968 student movement. Angered by the Vietnam War, by German capitalism and the concealment of the Nazi past of the country's elite, the terrorists bombed department stores, robbed banks and coldly murdered: bank chiefs, chief prosecutors, union officials, American GIs. The state's response, the RAF believed, would show the German state in its true fascist light. Then the Germans would rise up in spontaneous Marxist revolution.
In reality, of course, the Germans did not revolt."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/terrorism-the-red-army-faction-436841.html
Then in Japan, the left wing Red Army was trying to do the same thing, and killed people hoping to start a revolution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Red_Army
In Italy, the left wing Italian Brigate Rossi also tried to do the same thing. From the link below.
"Formed in 1969, the Marxist-Leninist BR seeks to create a revolutionary state through armed struggle and to separate Italy from the Western Alliance"
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/br.htm
Then if the left wingers are victorious, then they will go about setting up left wing secret police organziations like the Stasi, the NKVD, the Sigurimi, the Securitate, the DGI, the StB, etc. to monitor their own citizens because they are so fearful that people will try to launch a revolution against them.
Carl, Nice links! To be
September 30, 2009 - 13:43 ET by black47211Carl,
Nice links! To be added to my ever-growing arsenal of ammo against the left, thanks!
http://www.pelicanmarsh68.blogspot.com
Citizen Commentators Unite!
It's because they're scared
September 30, 2009 - 14:50 ET by AlanaIt's because they're scared of us. That's why Pelosi says, with quivering voice, that she is afraid of violence.
Talking about other shows
September 30, 2009 - 11:52 ET by sevenOlberman devotes half his time discussing O'Reilly
Joey will devote her show to discussing Glenn Beck? I will watch them myself. Don't need a screener or review.
If it comes to a genocidel
September 30, 2009 - 12:07 ET by jistincaseIf it comes to a genocidel war I am gonna head straight to Hollywood and any other lib stronghold that I can think of and take care of business. These people are the lowest order of humans that I have ever seen.
Isn't Behar
September 30, 2009 - 12:09 ET by katiejanesupposedly a comedian? I don't find her funny so does Midler think Behar should shut up?
I'm hosting a Bette Midler
September 30, 2009 - 12:10 ET by Another Dead KennedyI'm hosting a Bette Midler record and video burning party tonight. Can I count on everyone to show up with their copies of Beaches?
xoxo - Ted
You can have "Beaches"
September 30, 2009 - 12:13 ET by BlondeBut no Bette Middler CD's.
I hope he fails, too.
Sometimes (actually quite
September 30, 2009 - 12:23 ET by Another Dead KennedySometimes (actually quite often) I'm completely embarrassed by Hollywood. Despite the loud mouths and attention cravers (and the morons who think Polanski should be exonerated), there are some pretty good people here.
xoxo - Ted
There's always one in every crowd
September 30, 2009 - 12:47 ET by BlondeI kind of tune out these celebutards who feel their opinion about anything and everything is important (and although I think he's wrong about embryonic stem cell research, I admire Michael J. Fox for what he's trying to do, he, after all, has a horse in the race).
So to Bette, I'd say "shut up and sing". Because she is one of the rare vocal talents in the last forty years, and she's not half bad as an actress, either. I had a dear friend who was a huge Middler fan, we'd hang out and listen to CD's for hours on end and yack. So I can forgive Bette for her stupidity...I associate her music with very good times. RIP, Whit.
I hope he fails, too.
I don't know how it is in
September 30, 2009 - 12:59 ET by Another Dead KennedyI don't know how it is in Florida, but in LA they treat celebrity news like the real news. If you watch the Soup, they almost always do a segment ripping on the local morning Fox show here. It's a pathetic excuse for news.
xoxo - Ted
No, only celeb news here is OJ
September 30, 2009 - 13:23 ET by Blondeand since he's in the slam....not much.
I used to watch that show that had Mark McGrath....but just to see him. (Love Sugar Ray, what ever happened to them?).
I can't say I'm surprised that the news out there would portray the celebutards as newsworthy....and being "real". Sheesh, la la land, indeed.
I hope he fails, too.
Bette Midler Warns Glenn Beck Could Set Off a Rwanda-Like Civil
September 30, 2009 - 12:43 ET by wbcWow! She is one dumb broad ...
(Sorry for the pejorative term, but in this case it fits!)
Is there really a public
September 30, 2009 - 13:21 ET by fitzfongIs there really a public demand to know what Bette Midler, Janine Garofalo and other celebutards think about Glenn Beck, Tea Party Protests or anything beyond their upcoming theater engagements and television cameos? With all the chirping they've been doing lately, they sure seem to believe that the public is interested in their political points-of-view. Or is this the fault of the interviewers for asking them to weigh in on subjects they clearly have no competence in discussing?
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Typical Beck Fan
September 30, 2009 - 14:00 ET by TrickletownSomebody was interviewing Beck fans at last weekends big event, asking: " Glenn Beck has said that President Obama has a deep seated hatred for white people and white culture. He has said he believes he is a racist. Do you agree with that?" A couple of people gave non-commital answers. One fellow heartily said "Yes, I believe that Obama hates white people." The interviewer asked him: " Why do you believe that?" The man responded: " Because I am a racist." He smiled, turned, and entered the event.
Draw your own conclusions.
→ Trickles
September 30, 2009 - 14:04 ET by Cool ArrowI conclude you are either unable or too lazy to provide a link to your claim.
I suggest you prove a third possibility.
tinkletown
September 30, 2009 - 14:05 ET by FeynmanFanHard to draw a conclusion without seeing the actual video. Got a link?
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
The conclusion I draw
September 30, 2009 - 14:05 ET by BlondeIs that the man merely pre-empted the charge by the reporter, knowing full well anything he said would be construed as racist.
Game. Set. Match.
Wish I had a clip of it, like Namron shouting down the CNN reporterette.
I hope he fails, too.
You know it sounded like
September 30, 2009 - 17:10 ET by Dan The Man 2You know it sounded like something I would say to a stupid reporter.
But will Beck's civil war compare to Clinton's?
September 30, 2009 - 14:31 ET by Gary HallBut will Beck's civil war compare to Clinton's civil wars?
I think of the big one [DR Congo - 5 million died] that broke out next door to Rwanda - after Rwanda. Certainly President Clinton's effort here to prevent the civil war and numerous genocides and rape wars which followed paled in comparison to his admintted complacency in the deaths of 800,000 in Rwanda.
And, there were plenty who suggested that his actions help lead to the conflict:
When Clinton traveled to Rwanda and promised, "Never Again," as the much larger conflict on the border of Rwanda/DR Congo was raging, at his side was long time campaign contributor (and later to Hillary) and diamond mining tycoon and merchant, Maurice Templesman. The reward for Templesman, Chairman of Lazare Kaplan International Inc? In 1999, in a highly attended by Clinton senior administration officials affair, Templesman was elected Chairman of the Corporate Council on Africa.
Also, this should be an interesting read for Bette in-over-her-head Midler:
There is so much to be curious about - but so little interest out there in MSM land.
(;~/ gary
GH...Remember Dahrfur
September 30, 2009 - 16:08 ET by BlondeThe celebutard chant.
I hope he fails, too.
Darfur... Blondie
September 30, 2009 - 16:48 ET by Gary Hall.. or is that a phonics tweet?
Well, Darfur really flared back up in around 2003?
Oddly enough, Darfur, while horrific, is small fry compared to what went on in Rwanda and the DR Congo (and it still lingers). And while politics in such far off places is indeed difficult (and political), noting that the Bush administration was being widely smeared by the left and the MSM during the 2003 - 2005 period of time, and knowing that they had not sit silent here, I remember reading a published plea - being sent around from the left with attached attacks and Bush smears -- to the piece from SaveDarfur.org which was asking for folks to put pressure on the Bush administration to do more.
I called SaveDarfur.org and asked why they were so neg on Bush as he was actually in the lead in pushing for relief, UN sanctions, Powell was calling it a genocide, etc., and the gal at the org said to me.."oh no... he's the world leader here.. no one else cares.. we're simply pushing for more."
That was fair enough. But the left just continued to personally attack him on that, as well as everything else. One can always argue for their case - but the left is usually screaming hate, from a place of complete ignorance.
Cheers.. gary
Too true, tweet!
September 30, 2009 - 16:56 ET by BlondeI read somewhere, and I can't attribute the quote, but it was something along these lines:
Only an idiot would fight a war on the African continent.
Mogadishu comes to mind. (Oddly, I have Blackhawk Down in my DVD drive on my computer).
Nothing is ever enough for the left....and I've always been under the impression that the screaming hate emanating from the left is always from a place of complete ignorance. Nice turn of phrase, tho, GH.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde
October 1, 2009 - 01:31 ET by ahusserOnce you said the word/place Mogadishu. I immediately thought of the typical dem response to any military issue/challenge. "Runaway, runaway".
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
ahusser...
October 1, 2009 - 01:48 ET by JerYou might recall that after Mogadishu, many "runaway" Republican congressmen were demanding we get out of Somalia immediately. Clinton rebuffed them and maintained our presence there for another six months.
Jer
many "runaway" Republican
October 2, 2009 - 00:49 ET by Dan The Man 2many "runaway" Republican congressmen were demanding we get out of Somalia immediately.
Link it bubba, I dont doubt there were some but many connetates more twoard the majority. Or is it like 1, 2 ...uhhhhh ... many?
Dan...
October 2, 2009 - 01:00 ET by JerIf you'll address me properly, I'll see what I can find for you tomorrow. Deal?
Jer
If you'll address me
October 2, 2009 - 01:30 ET by Dan The Man 2If you'll address me properly
In my neck of teh woods Bubba is proper, its what I call my son and my buds. But I could think of some other names for ya.
Well, if you honestly feel
October 2, 2009 - 01:38 ET by JerWell, if you honestly feel the same affection for me that you feel for your son and buds, then you may address me likewise.
Jer
But the left just continued
October 1, 2009 - 01:44 ET by JerBut the left just continued to personally attack him on that, as well as everything else.
Actually, that's not entirely true, Gary. There was a lengthy diary article on HuffPo, for one example, praising Bush's African initiatives in general. I recall Eleanor Clift doing likewise on TMG. I bet there was a fair amount of positive feedback for Bush from other quarters 'on the left' re Africa.
Jer
Hey Jer.. where the rubber meets the road!
October 1, 2009 - 14:03 ET by Gary HallOh, come on now. In that context - nothing that is said in most political and policy discussions is "entirely true." Yes I can recall the handful of pieces, as well.
Newsweek's May 2006 special issue, "Aids at 25," was entirely devoted to the the subject. While they gave Bill Clinton his own section (a 8 X 10 b&w glossy portrait of himself) in which to heap praise on himself in his own essay, they skipped any coverage of the then President of the US, Bush, who was now recognized as the world leader here. Well, not "entirely true," on page 64, in a text box, they allowed, "Only 3% of Americans know that the Bush admin has more than doubled US spending to combat HIV/Aids in developing countries." You understand the "they allowed?" That's all they would share with the public.
And one wonders why only 3% of othe public knew?
Here's what they should have shared with the broad public:
Too little, too late - How many times is Bill Clinton going to apologize to Africa?
I'd bet that lesss than 1% of the American public was aware that Clinton, Edwards, Cohen, Albright, etc., were out in public defending Bush on the then still held view that they all thought that Saddam had WMD's.
Yes, there are a number of articles and op eds and editorials about Bush's African - 3rd world - initiatives. They were slow in coming. They seem to be, usually, in the "we better cover our butts, and say something context - cause it looks like the damn thing has been extremely successful."
Look for the first many years of it, most of the few pieces written on his efforts here, used much - if not most of the space attacking the details of his effort. Almost all, consistently attacked the abstinence program, and for years the press consistently misrepresented the balance of the funding, saying that 1/3rd of the PEPFAR funding went to abstinence related issues (and they broadly ranted about that.) Fact is, that 1/3 of the prevention portion of the funding went to abstinence. Prevention was 1/5 of the total. 1/3 of 1/5th is shy of 7% of of the total. By 2007, I'd succeeded in getting the LA Times to issue one correction, and alert their staff writers not to make the mistake again.
Just the same - our national media big shots seldom miss an opportunity to interview Bill Clinton and to praise him for his efforts in Africa. While he turned his back on Africa while President, I certainly much support his personal effort now. The MSM had, and has no interest in even bringing up the subject with Bush - never did. They, in the past, often invited Clinton to attack Bush over Bush's efforts. To Clinton's credit, he usually set out to set them straight - immediately, they would usually change the subject to shut him up - they can not tolerate someone speaking truth.
Still - this is what is typical - and this is what most of of the left believes:
San Jose Mercury News Nov., 2008 -- their editorial:
Bush's initiative (it's no longer an initiative - the operational program exceeded all of it's original goals) distributed over 2 billion condoms in Africa. Anytime I correct a liberal (PhD teachers included) with that statistic, they tell me it is not true - PEPFAR did not exist - it was simply a propaganda tool of Bush. The fact is, our national media broadly wanted the public to see it that way - and they broadly pulled it off.
Bush's condom distribution program - Where the rubber meets the road.
(;~> gary
Perhaps Bette's last
September 30, 2009 - 16:50 ET by samhermanmdPerhaps Bette's last facelift shut off blood circulation to her brain. That would be an interesting paper on the adverse reactions to cosmetic surgery, and I am sure Bette has had enough stitches to form a few dozen quilts.
Joy Behar
September 30, 2009 - 17:01 ET by Captain KirockI've said it before and I will say it again: Joy Behar is the stupidest woman on tv.
ChickaBOOMer -- Bette Midler: Wind Beneath My Zings
September 30, 2009 - 17:36 ET by StewartIIIBette Midler: Wind Beneath My Zings
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2009/09/joy-to-behold.html
Glenn Beck had a great time this morning on his...
September 30, 2009 - 19:50 ET by jawebster1radio show responding...whoops, I see the response is posted above. Jim Webster
I thought Behar and Midler were the same person!
October 2, 2009 - 07:49 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasWhat!? I thought Behar and Midler were the same person!
Reality is the good friend of the strong and perception is the cruel master of the weak.
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