You might have figured this was coming, that when dust settled from the Sept. 12 march on Washington, D.C., the brain trust at MSNBC would attempt to frame it as negatively as possible.
And MSNBC's resident left-wing curmudgeon-in-training David Shuster didn't disappoint. The former host of the canceled "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue" took a report from the Huffington Post debunking attendance figures and attempted to belittle the event. The story focused on an old photograph that had been circulating on some minor conservative blogs showing a huge crowd for the Sept. 12 march.
Shuster asked Washington Examiner columnist and author of "The Big Ripoff: How Big Business and Big Government Steal Your Money" if some conservative blogs were going to circulate a phony photo, why should the movement have any credibility? But Carney didn't take the bait and instead showed that MSNBC and other mainstream media outlets were committing a similar offense.
"I mean, that's what I would say about MSNBC and a lot of the mainstream media as well," Carney said on MSNBC Sept. 14. "If they can't be honest about what's actually going on in the crowd, why should we believe them about anything else - I mean you guys are focusing on a handful of nutjobs who are at this rally?"
Carney noted that in 2001 and 2002, when the left was actively protesting the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, there were fringe elements in the mix. Those elements were not reported by the media with the same scrutiny MSNBC was dedicating to the tea party movement.
"I was at the anti-war protests back in 2001 and 2002," Carney said. "And I'll tell you, I saw, you know there were anarchist with masks over their faces. And there were at least 20, maybe 50 of those that I saw, I saw people holding up pro-Fidel Castro signs. There were Maoists at those protests and my friend Mark Hemingway - he's a writer. Go back and read the stuff he wrote. There were lots of nutjobs there, but that's not the main story."
And, it's a similar passion fueling this movement that propelled Obama to the presidency, Carney explained
"The main story is people are angry," Carney said. "The same sort of passion that was directed at supporting Barack Obama during the campaign has turned against him."
He admitted the ones circulating the old photographs weren't doing their cause any favors, but only because it was giving left-wing outlets like MSNBC and the Huffington Post fodder to undermine the conservative protesters' efforts.
"People who are lying about crowd sizes, sending out Photoshopped pictures - yeah, they're actually hurting the cause because people like the Huffington Post and MSNBC will dedicate segments to lies about the crowd size rather than to what's at stake and how much money is being spent, what will this debt mean for inflation for interest rates for my children's taxes that they'll have to pay."
He explained those elements were giving the media cover not to have to report on issues and show how General Electric and the pharmaceutical lobby could benefit from the so-called reforms advocated by the administration.
"Is cap-and-trade - that's a giveaway to sorts of corporations, like the parent company of MSNBC, GE. The health care reform - that's supported by Pfizer and PhRMA. I mean, we should be focusing on the issues these people are upset about rather than the lies, so I agree."



















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September 15, 2009 - 06:22 ET by BourbeauIs when the likes of Shuster try to bait you, you shove it right back in their face. The story involving GE and their disgraceful sucking up to this administration is beyond a coverup. It's everything that wrong in Corporate America plus some. For several years now, the GE Board has been controlled by Democrat favorites, and they have generously allowed the bumbing CEO to continue is destruction of the once proud company. It's this nonsense that have allowed the likes of Olbermann, Schuster, Mitchell and Matthews to spew their stupidity daily without any due dilligence to ensure accurate reporting. So all that's left is for those on the right, who choose to contribute to their programming, is to give it right back when they try to distort the real news.
It's a nice try
September 15, 2009 - 06:24 ET by FeynmanFanIt's a nice try but it's not going to change what folks like MSNBC and the MSM are going to report. They are not interested in news; they are interested in pushing an agenda and nothing is going to get in their way... they think.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
I wish they would trace the
September 15, 2009 - 06:33 ET by JerryI wish they would trace the source of those photo-shopped images. With the crowd as large as that, why use altered images??? I smell a rat.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Those anarchists and Fidel
September 15, 2009 - 06:35 ET by motherbeltThose anarchists and Fidel Castro fans protesting Bush: they weren't "nut jobs" they were just "colorful."
FUNNY SIDENOTE...
September 15, 2009 - 06:48 ET by danybhoySomewhere around 2million people, no fights, I don't think I heard about any arrests, & the "teabaggers" cleaned up after themselves. Unlike the professional protesters on the left that don't give a damn about cleaning up & think it's a failure to not force the cops to arrest hundreds of dirty hippies.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
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I was there and...
September 15, 2009 - 07:30 ET by theduck6It would have been impossible for me to get an accurate crowd estimate for 2 reasons. I have virtually no expertise in crowd assessment and it was so vast you had no chance of seeing anything but groups at any one time. I know they didn't allow them to proliferate up the mall because of another gathering on the other end (Black Family Reunion ?), far less well attended.
I am quite cetain it was NOT 2 million or even 1 million. It was, however, more than "tens of thousands" as the MSM reported in their highest estimates. Given that conservatives by their very nature do NOT take to the streets you can multiply the number as if you were talking about cost in today's dollars. For every person there, there were many more who need just one more power grab to make them stand up and say, "ENOUGH". SHould've done it after "prescription drugs" and "the first "Porkulous" bill under Bush.
LET'S DO IT AGAIN!!!
theduck6.....
September 15, 2009 - 08:01 ET by adamsmithThe funny thing is you said it was at least tens of thousands, and eight "Code Pinkers" got twenty times more news coverage by the statist media during the Bush era than tens of thousands of disgruntled Americans jamming up Washington....The press isn't biased, ya think?????????
Oh it was 10s and 10s and 10s of thousands
September 15, 2009 - 08:09 ET by theduck6really, unbiased media my arse.
The unimportance they are trying to paint Van Jones with is just another exhibit. One of 30+ unelected czars with glowing praise and close confidants saying how they've been watching him for a long time and now he's a sidebar.
TURN OFF THE TV NEWS, CANCEL THEW PAPER AND THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!
At some of those Code Pink protests...
September 15, 2009 - 09:37 ET by Iowa Boy...there was more media than protesters. Remember that uncropped shot of all those cameras at Cindy Shehan kneeling at her honorable son's cross in Crawford, TX?
"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Official Motto of the State of Iowa
9/12 attendance
September 15, 2009 - 08:31 ET by Doc_NavyI've been going around and around with a screaming liberal from the Examiner named Ryan Witt. Sometimes I find it completely incredible that there are actual, real live people that think the way that libs do.
I mean this guy has been defending Van Jones and ACORN with the passion of a warrior poet, but with only the writing skill of a highschooler.
On 9/12, I use actual photos from the event and the National Parks Service crowd estimation map (Same one used for the Obama inauguration) to show that a MINIMUM of 350,000 folks has turned up. The guy is still screaming 30,000 to 60,000 max because some DC Fireman gave that estimation (unofficially) at 1pm in the afternoon.
I finally had to chaulk it up to an excersize in mental masturbation, and declare that by anyone's standards... be it 60,000 or 300,00 it was still an unmitigated success considering the organizers were planning for 30-40k.
They wouldn't even give me that. It HAD to be a failure because some Democrat claimed there would be 2 million and there wasn't that many there. I ended the conversation with, "well, we'll see next year... won't we? If the Lefties are right, nothing will change. If the Conservatives are right, there will be a big "vote-out" of Liberal Democrats in 2010."
Doc
Doc, I think the Dims will
September 15, 2009 - 12:31 ET by Hunter12Doc, I think the Dims will get the answer in 2010 about how many were there, in either body or spirit, when they start going down in flames at election time for not listening to their constituents. I know I have a representative and two senators I need to replace.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Watching MSNBC...
September 15, 2009 - 08:46 ET by OldJoeIs like drinking a gallon of high fructose corn syrup!
Is Schuster About to Combust
September 15, 2009 - 09:33 ET by Bighead227Boy, he's taking these protests personally, isn't he? And give that guy an A for the day. Well done, sir.