Perhaps he's auditioning for a part on MSNBC: The place for Michele Bachmann bashing.
Air America host Montel Williams stepped away from his mild-mannered World Series of Poker playing, Big Orange prescription drug bus driving and medicinal marijuana advocacy roles to fire a salvo at Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., encouraging her to stab herself on his Sept. 3 radio show (h/t Radio Equalizer Brian Maloney):
WILLIAMS (1:30:32): Michelle, slit your wrist.
Go ahead... or, do us all a better thing [sic].
Move that knife up about two feet.
Start right at the collarbone.
Bachmann has been a regular target of lefties in the media time and time again. MSNBC personalities have regularly attacked Bachmann and other conservative women on the network, with Chris Matthew once referring to Bachmann as a "Mata Hari." On MSNBC's Sept. 1 "Countdown with Keith Olbermann," host Keith Olbermann entertained the musings of Dan Savage, a syndicated sex columnist, author and gay-rights advocate, who suggest Bachmann and Fox News host Glenn Beck were trying to get Obama killed.
And Olbermann and the local liberal Minnesota press also went after Bachmann's son on Aug. 13. So, that only begs the question - where is Montel Williams getting his vitriol from?
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Behold the people elevating
September 4, 2009 - 13:05 ET by lsudolemiteBehold the people elevating the level of public discourse in this country.
Montel Williams....just
September 4, 2009 - 13:23 ET by motherbeltMontel Williams....just another liberal who is too stupid to understand a metaphor.
Ahh, this must be the "new
September 4, 2009 - 14:05 ET by winston smithAhh, this must be the "new tone", right?
You people do realize that
September 5, 2009 - 15:40 ET by JRJ08You people do realize that you're vehemently defending a person who is the laughingstock of Congress and is taken seriously by nobody, including her colleagues. Put Bachmann on the right and a box of rocks on the left, and the one on the left will recite the alphabet before the one on the right understands anything about the world in general. Are you not smart enough to know that supporting the village idiot reflects poorly on your own intellect?
Hey! Jr is back!
September 5, 2009 - 15:42 ET by Free StinkerHey! Jr is back!
You got a release from The Ward for the Holiday weekend?
Jr, she must be scoring some serious direct hits, too...
September 5, 2009 - 15:46 ET by R D Helm...else you lefties wouldn't have your thongs in such a knot over her.
-Dave
Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz
Oh yeah. Bachmann's a real
September 6, 2009 - 10:46 ET by JRJ08Oh yeah. Bachmann's a real sharpshooter. We sure need more folks with her intellectual firepower in public office.
→ Jar-Jar
September 6, 2009 - 10:53 ET by Cool ArrowAlthough you would really prefer the likes of Charlie Rangel, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Maxine Waters.
Yours is the party of Stuck on stupid.
Your party is content with having an admitted tax cheat guarding our tax dollars. Your party is content with having a tax cheat writing tax laws.
I agree, we need more like Michele Bachmann.
I disagree that we need more of your party's brand of honesty.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
I thot she was a republican
September 4, 2009 - 13:07 ET by sevenRep. Michele Bachmann, D-Minn., encouraging her to stab herself on his Sept. 3 radio show (h/t Radio Equalizer Brian Maloney):
The way they attack her, I find it difficult to have a "D" behind her name
Thanks
September 4, 2009 - 13:12 ET by Jeff PoorThanks
Another pass by Jer..K
September 4, 2009 - 13:10 ET by Sergeant ROCKI know, I know.. you already apologized.. I mean condemned something he said ten years ago. My bad.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
As part of your relentless
September 5, 2009 - 21:04 ET by JerAs part of your relentless personal attacks, you constantly accuse me of trying to make everything at this site about me, and yet your very first comment here is not a condemnation of Williams, but yet another attack on "Jer..K".
You're not even a clever liar...so easily exposed.
Jer
I am disappoint
September 4, 2009 - 13:14 ET by someloudthunderWow Montel.... just wow.
It sounds as if he joined
September 4, 2009 - 13:45 ET by kgIt sounds as if he joined the Democrat Party.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
Sheesh
September 4, 2009 - 13:15 ET by jdlybrandMore soothing rhetoric from the most tolerant among us. Must have left his 'love beads' at home.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Hey Michelle!!!!
September 4, 2009 - 13:16 ET by kengieCan I hold your hands??? ...let the blood letting begin! Such a silly woman.
kengie
September 4, 2009 - 13:20 ET by katainkentthat's a bit much even for you.
Thank you!!
September 4, 2009 - 13:32 ET by kengieOh I am sooo flattered!
not a compliment
September 4, 2009 - 13:39 ET by katainkentstart trying to remember the user id/pw for your next troll account
~ADMINS, PLEASE REMOVE THIS DISGUSTING PERSON
September 4, 2009 - 13:21 ET by choselife3xDissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
RE: Kenzie You know
September 4, 2009 - 13:40 ET by JasonCRE: Kenzie
You know someone's still a little green when the time they've been a member is measured in hours.
~Green indeed
September 4, 2009 - 13:44 ET by choselife3xWet behind the ears, too.
(I couldn't help myself)
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
NBers, here is positive proof that many libs are mental cases
September 4, 2009 - 13:26 ET by R D HelmThis one appears to be sicker than most.
-Dave
Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz
Kengie-ism #403
September 4, 2009 - 13:31 ET by SickofLibsKengie doesn't see line, trips.
This person deserves to be banned. Kengie, you are a very very
September 4, 2009 - 13:37 ET by pahubersick individual.
PETTY LITTLE LIB PUNK...
September 4, 2009 - 16:32 ET by danybhoyKengie is a 2 bit punk, anyone who supports anything or anybody on Error Amerikkka needs to be medicated. Williams needs to be exposed on a larger scale, & shunned. The man has MS, & we should prey for the guy's health, but his problem is between his ears. He needs to be slapped down. But here may be the biggest slap of all, & I'll borrow this from Andrew Wilkow...If a liberal has a radio show & nobody listens, does the liberal have a show? Montel is over, he just does'nt know it yet.
BTW, the FCC should really be looking into his dumbass coments, it's clearly out of bounds. Kinda like Kengie, out of bounds, you punk.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
Buh-bye. "Beauty is
September 5, 2009 - 17:33 ET by HockeyKidBuh-bye.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
delete
September 4, 2009 - 13:21 ET by motherbeltdelete
Montel
September 4, 2009 - 13:29 ET by acumentakes another hit on abuse.
acumen... ROFL! That
September 4, 2009 - 13:37 ET by bigtimeracumen...
ROFL!
That was some trippy stuff indeed...thanks, I loved it!
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
If dissent equals trying to
September 4, 2009 - 13:29 ET by mattmIf dissent equals trying to get someone killed, and suicide is the correct prescription for a dissenter, than this should be the first one to do the deed and start cutting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
"With any adminstration...
September 4, 2009 - 13:33 ET by Sergeant ROCK... except this one!"
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Outrageous! Montel the
September 4, 2009 - 13:29 ET by bigtimerOutrageous!
Montel the hate-mongerer.
I am sick of the silence from the msm when this kind of rhetoric is spewed from the left in this country...if this was reversed, a white man had said what Montel did we would hear roars of racism, intimidation, scare tactics etc and as well as an outcry 24/7 from the talking heads with Sharpton, Jackson etc demanding an immediate apology, let alone wanting him charged with a hate-crime....congress did pass the thought police crap as well.
I am sick of people taking what one of my favorite gals said out of context...the only hope I have is not only a backlash coming down the road, that we take back the House and the Senate in '10.
btw...No Bill is a Good Bill.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Anyone else notice how much
September 4, 2009 - 13:32 ET by Radical1979Anyone else notice how much trouble Montel had reading her quote?
Rad...yes I did...he must
September 4, 2009 - 13:39 ET by bigtimerRad...yes I did...he must have smoked some right before he spoke and made a bigger arse of himself than he already was.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
More proof that liberals are willing to tolerate anything
September 4, 2009 - 13:37 ET by c5thenAnything except an opinion or idea that is different than their own.
Are we absolutely certain that he was referring to Michelle Bachmann, or could he have been referring to Michelle Malkin or maybe even Michelle Obama?
Well, either way it was a vile comment.
Throw 'da bums out!!!
no incumbent re-elected, with very few exceptions!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
We really don't need that
September 4, 2009 - 13:37 ET by nwahsWe really don't need that type of violent talk in political discourse. Pundits are getting very close to the sedition line. People do not need to be encouraging any type of violence, whether it be self mutilation or assault, as a remedy to government.
"What we have to do today, is slit our wrists be blood brother on this thing." -Michele Bachmann on self mutilation and health care
I agree Shawn
September 4, 2009 - 13:56 ET by acumenThank the heavens we now have Pres. Underdabus bringing a new tone of civilility to DC. Why, if not for those damn GOP aholes.... ///
I willing to bet
September 4, 2009 - 14:07 ET by nwahsMost in the GOP aren't suggesting self mutilation as a protest to Obamacare. I really think we can discuss the the incompetence in government, without suggesting people slit their wrists, "water the tree of liberty," or other crazy crap.
Violent images take normal, healthy dissent and bring it close to the revolution/sedition line. That, we don't need.
IMO
"What we have to do today is slit our wrists, be blood brother on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
Evidently not many people
September 4, 2009 - 14:11 ET by bigtimerEvidently not many people understand what a blood-brother is...heck maybe most never had a friend or two that you were blood-brothers with...especially those on the left...all they know how to do is follow the Alinsky Rules...which is now obvious and has been regarding Bachmann from when she angered Matthews way back when...she defeated them back then, she will again...anybody with a brain and common sense understood what she meant...I thank her for speaking out...we need more, not less of that from the right side of the aisle.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
I was a blood brother
September 4, 2009 - 14:40 ET by nwahsI was a blood brother as a child. I don't remember slitting my wrists or anything as grizzly as that. As I recall, it was a lot of ice and a pin prick. A lot of crap for a stupid club house if you ask me:)
"What we have to do today is slit our wrists, be blood brother on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
"I was a blood brother as a child".
September 4, 2009 - 15:20 ET by UpNorthThat would have been last week?
So you would
September 4, 2009 - 14:14 ET by acumendraw the line at say....biting off fingers? Oh wait, that was a moonbat on the left. My bad. You wanted to only focus the negative on the right. Carry on....
And...
September 4, 2009 - 14:19 ET by Sergeant ROCK... how Rush Limbaugh is inciting this violence.. etc., etc.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
The future of political
September 4, 2009 - 14:19 ET by mattmThe future of political discourse?
"You yellow b.."
September 4, 2009 - 14:27 ET by nwahs"You yellow bast..."
Thats funny :)
"What we have to do today is slit our wrists, be blood brother on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
Um no
September 4, 2009 - 14:38 ET by nwahsThe blog has to do with Montel suggesting suicide. It leaves out the fact Bachmann suggested self mutilation or cutting ones self.
For the record, I am against biting off appendages of any kind.
"What we have to do today is slit our wrists, be blood brother on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
Blood brothers
September 4, 2009 - 14:50 ET by QueenMumFor informational purposes:
"It is still practiced today, but mostly as a throw-back to tribal
times. The tradition of intertwining arms and drinking wine in Greece and elsewhere, is believed to be a representation of becoming blood brothers.
In modern times, a common blood brother ceremony includes having each person make a small cut, usually on a finger or the forearm,
and then the two cuts are pressed together and bound, the idea being
that each person's blood now flows in the other participant's veins.
However, such an act is considered highly inadvisable from a medical
standpoint due to the risk of blood-borne diseases." (Wikipedia)
Personally, I like the Greek idea better.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Depths
September 4, 2009 - 14:19 ET by onewiseguynwahs: truly, the depths of your understanding are stuck at the shallow end. With each post on each article you reveal how either dumb or young you are. Really, you need to stop posting...cut your losses, don't keep digging a deeper grave.
So, I guess
September 4, 2009 - 14:22 ET by nwahsI guess I can safely mark you down as "disagree."
Got it.
"What we have to do today is slit our wrists, be blood brother on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
you're very literal
September 4, 2009 - 14:27 ET by katainkentwhen it suits you.
where is Montel Williams
September 4, 2009 - 13:38 ET by Jack BauerProbably the same place as his viagra.
He grows his own.
September 4, 2009 - 13:47 ET by c5thenApparently vitriol mixed with marijuana causes stupidity.
Throw 'da bums out!!!
no incumbent re-elected, with very few exceptions!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
Just like Palin
September 4, 2009 - 13:45 ET by charlietexasThere they go again.....a good looking conservitive republican woman...they have to make her look stupid and demonize her. They hate women
mom
charlietex... Fear them
September 4, 2009 - 13:48 ET by bigtimercharlietex...
Fear them is more like it. ;-)
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Yes, they hate REPUBLICAN women.
September 4, 2009 - 13:48 ET by pahuberProbably envious that they have brains.
MS is getting to him
September 4, 2009 - 13:52 ET by obageegeeMust be off his meds
Montel and Metaphors
September 4, 2009 - 13:54 ET by ChuchulainnAt the risk of stirring up a hornet's nest, and stepping on some toes, I must say that Motherbelt hit the nail on the head with his comment about Montel being too stupid to understand a Metaphor. However, when President Obama says things like, "You might say America is a Muslim nation," it is not a metaphor. Obama doesn't do metaphors.
Here is another ...
September 4, 2009 - 14:07 ET by SentryDanHere is another case of a person not realizing what is going on. Since Rep Bachmann is against obama's policies, she must be a racist. Remember, both Montel and obama are black. Well, obama is only part black.
Even though has never said anything racial concerning obama, she is a racist in the minds of the liberals because she is against obama's policies. Hell, everyone of us who is against obama's policies is a racist. And many of us are even worse, we are "Right Wing Terrorists". (Actually, we are American Patriots.) Those who do not have the best interests of the country at heart are the terrorists.
Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.
For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.
Also remember folks, that the way to SUPPORT THE TROOPS is to support their mission. Anyone who says that they support the troops but don't support their mission is lying about supporting the troops. And if you want to know, yes I do have a dog in the fight, he is a United States Marine.
I'm often accused of not
September 4, 2009 - 14:16 ET by JasonCI'm often accused of not sufficiently condemning left-wing vitriol and over-condemning it when it's from the right. This seems like as good a story as any to say that, as a hard-left moonbat libtard, Williams' comments are way out of line, and there's really no excess or limit to the scorn that such a remark deserves.
It's easy!
September 4, 2009 - 14:21 ET by Sergeant ROCKSee how easy it is Jer..K?
Your turn now.. you can do it!
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Rock...
September 4, 2009 - 20:37 ET by JerThis is a prime example of why you have no credibility Rock. I have done it countless times. I guarantee you far more than any other lib at this site over the two years I've been here. And, I've defended far more conservatives than any liberals have been defended here by you and those like you.
I've blasted Olbermann, Matthews, Malloy, HuffPost, Dkos, and a number of others--all on more than one occasion. If I do nothing else in my remaining tenure here, I'll pull those posts, and I'll enjoy watching you eat your words.
In other words, it would be wise to know the facts instead of making a fool of yourself.
Jer
lol.. Jer..K
September 4, 2009 - 20:49 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. yeah, I'm sure you did. You just don't feel compelled to condemn this one now. Liberals only get one condemnation per lifetime from Jer..K. Shut yer hole already, old man.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
This from the man that goes around soaping up other men
September 4, 2009 - 20:54 ET by nwahsShouldn't you be taking a bubble bath with Mr. Shy?
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
n...waaaaaahhhhs! *sniff!*
September 4, 2009 - 21:05 ET by Sergeant ROCKAre you projecting again your trists with Jer..K?
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Don't sniff me
September 4, 2009 - 21:07 ET by nwahsI'm not one of your "friends."
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
I have no compunction
September 4, 2009 - 21:07 ET by JerI have no compunction whatsoever about condemning Williams outrageous and indefensible statement. I deplore his remarks in the strongest terms one can conjure.
It was just that first I needed to condemn your despicable and shameful lie. And make no mistake, you are an unabashed, gutless liar.
Jer
How do you feel about the nut job's speech?
September 4, 2009 - 21:13 ET by nwahsHow do your feel about Bachmann's speech urging a covenant for people to slit their wrists in brotherhood. When is the last time you've seen slitting wrists suggested to combat certain legislation? Bachmann sounds more like Jim Jones than a representative.Slit one's wrist in a covenant?? That wacko has watched too many Psycho movies.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
JerK.. unabashed fraud, liar and coward.
September 4, 2009 - 21:14 ET by Sergeant ROCKWell, look at that? After some brow-beating JerK finally comes around to condemning one of his fellow liberals remarks. You're so proactive!
That aside, do continue with your thread hijacking.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
What the hell are you thinking, Jer
September 4, 2009 - 21:17 ET by nwahsSargeant Rock is trying to pick up men here.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
Frankly, I'd like to know
September 4, 2009 - 21:45 ET by JerFrankly, I'd like to know where the conservatives are who should be roundly condemning the disgraceful behavior of Sgt. Rock. Does he have them cowed?
Jer
Condemning behavior? Did
September 4, 2009 - 22:20 ET by nwahsCondemning behavior? Did you see this post? Do you see a lot of repudiation? This person has a problem with Montel so he doesn't attack the subject, he attacks Montel's multiple sclerosis and spasticidy.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
This isn't the firtst time
September 4, 2009 - 21:43 ET by JerThis isn't the firtst time you've played this stupid game, numbnuts. There was the thread several months ago where you called out all the "liberal pukes" for not condemning the offending leftist. Of course, when I did condemn, you had to make some wiseass comment about throwing rocks at pigs.
I trust many here are beginning to see what a flaming ass you actually are.
Jer
Poor JerK.. this site isn't dedicated to you
September 4, 2009 - 21:54 ET by Sergeant ROCKOld man.. you are the one playing games. You spend an enormous amount of time bashing conservatives and conservative posters and it's only when, after a great deal of brow-beating, that you are dragged kicking and screaming into condemning something one of your ilk says or does. It's just so easy in demonstrating what a fraud you are by doing so.
'When you throw a rock into a pack of dogs.. the one that hollers is the one that got hit.'
You have a mind like a steel trap.. full of mice.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Look son, find a post where
September 4, 2009 - 23:28 ET by JerLook son, find a post where I have attacked a conservative here, and I'll show you that it is in response to an attack on me. Guaranteed.
Like I said before, you'll be eating your words as far as your "lack of condemnation" charge. It's sheer nonsense. [By the way, there are treatments available now for early Alzheimer's. Might behoove you to check 'em out.]
Jer
~Congrats, Jer
September 5, 2009 - 10:10 ET by choselife3xYou have an obsessed, batsh!t crazy stalker. You have arrived.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
the sound...
September 4, 2009 - 14:22 ET by katainkentof about 5K PrtScns being pushed ;)
I don't know what that
September 4, 2009 - 14:30 ET by JasonCI don't know what that is...?
screencap!
September 4, 2009 - 14:32 ET by katainkentsorry :)
Uh-oh, am I gonna lose my
September 4, 2009 - 14:35 ET by JasonCUh-oh, am I gonna lose my liberal cred?
Liberal cred? An
September 4, 2009 - 14:38 ET by QueenMumLiberal cred? An oxymoron.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
am I gonna lose my liberal cred?
September 4, 2009 - 14:39 ET by vrwc13...no, you just reminded us what the real enemy can look like...out of line. Your kind and my kind, just kind of disagree usually, kind of...sort of...
v
~Hahahaha!
September 4, 2009 - 14:22 ET by choselife3xas a hard-left moonbat libtard, Williams' comments are way out of line,
And the right-wingnut terrorist mob stood up and said "Amen!"
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
JasonC...thanks
September 4, 2009 - 14:34 ET by vrwc13We may be from different ends of the spectrum, but out of line is just that, out of line. For either side. Sometimes it takes something that far out of line to make us realize that most of us reside in that old 'moral majority' this country was known for, we just for the most part can be at it's opposite ends.
v
Count me in too. What a
September 4, 2009 - 14:35 ET by Another Dead KennedyCount me in too. What a d*ckhead!
"If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen." Ronald Reagan
good stance, Jason
September 4, 2009 - 20:20 ET by RayRaytake a bow
...
September 4, 2009 - 14:26 ET by EugeniaWait. This is Montel Williams the black guy who used to have a t.v. show and has M.S.? HE's on Air America? Who knew either of them were still around.♠
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything."
-- GK Chesterton
Respect is a two-way street.
September 4, 2009 - 14:32 ET by awffp1890Montel always commanded respect on his show telling us that he had served his country in the military and such. Montel, respect is a two-way street. Telling a politician, no matter what side of the political fence you are on, to kill themselves is unconscionable.
"Not for fame or reward, not for place or rank, not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity. But in simple obedience to duty." - From the barracks at Ft. Benning
This is the same guy who
September 4, 2009 - 14:37 ET by nolotrippenThis is the same guy who had a psychic on his show every single week. Psychics are charletons. Montel knows they are charletons, yet he had them on his show as though they were as real as could be.
In other words, he's not above deceit. AirAmerica indeed.
To Montel Williams
September 4, 2009 - 15:06 ET by 1uncle1uncle: Little orphan Annie said 'Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Alittle taste of your own medicine....
September 4, 2009 - 15:10 ET by The FugitiveDear ignorant known as Montel,
Usually when someone of your ilk leaves his wisdom for all to hear, we just sit back and state how appalled we are with your comments and leave it at that. Well sometimes we just can't let it go, and sometimes we just have to give you back what you gave and then some to remind you of what your kind really sounds like...So here goes you useless piece of S**T. Why don't you do us all a tremendous favor and when you have one of your spastic fits of MS ( I am deeply sorry and feel for all that are affected by this horrible disease, and my heart goes out to you all, just not this A$$hole!), please be kind enough to consider the rest of us and spazz your way onto I-80 around midnight just in front of a few Semi's. If anything is left of you, don't worry, you'll be up in no time under Obama's health plan, unless ofcourse, your quality of life is deemed to be as useless as we all know it is, by one of those "Death Panels" you all say don't exist, then it's adios you ignorant useless chrome-domed douche bag.
Why is it that EVERYTIME a liberal opens their mouth, I feel a sudden urge to hand them a roll of toilet paper?
I smell crap
September 4, 2009 - 15:16 ET by nwahsNo, I smell crap in italics.
"spazz your way onto I-80"
I know, you mean only the bad spastic people.
"What we have to do today is slit our wrists, be blood brother on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
You know how it was meant
September 4, 2009 - 16:01 ET by The FugitiveYou know why I said what I said. Was it classy...ofcourse not and that was the point, is it typical of me...HELL NO, but it did prove it's point. If it offended anyone, that should be more the reason for idiots like this moron, with a public forum no less, to think before they opens up their mouths. It should make us all think.
Why is it that EVERYTIME a liberal opens their mouth, I feel a sudden urge to hand them a roll of toilet paper?
I think you can make a point
September 4, 2009 - 16:35 ET by nwahsI think you can make your point without going after a person's physical impairment. I'm sure you don't do that in day to day life, but I can't think of even a rhetorical sense where it doesn't sound plain vile. Like the Obama special Olympics crack - it was meant to be funny, but it was just vile to compare a lack of coordination with physical impairments like spasticity.
"What we have to do today is slit our wrists, be blood brother on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
is there a full moon?
September 4, 2009 - 15:19 ET by katainkentsrsly!
There was last night
September 4, 2009 - 16:06 ET by jacktherippermust have rubbed off
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville
Montel . . .
September 4, 2009 - 16:14 ET by DoktorFrankenWhoa, Dude!! That is like so not like Bill and Ted. Heinous! Bogus!
Take a few more tokes, Dude, and mellow the hell out!
I am very disappointed...
September 4, 2009 - 16:34 ET by PrairieSkyin Montel Williams. I actually used to admire him. The fact that he is a former Marine, along with his work with PPA, and his struggle with MS, had earned him my respect, but this extremely hateful and vitriolic diatribe that he aimed at Michelle Bachmann has ended whatever positive opinion I have had of him. This is something that one would expect to hear from the outer-fringe Left, and not, I used to think, from someone who has a background like Mr. Williams.
I had no idea until this article on NB that Williams was doing a show on AirAmerica...It's a shame that he has succumbed to the insanity that has consumed so many on the deranged Left.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
he's standing up for the brutha
September 4, 2009 - 20:23 ET by RayRayat which point, right-vs-wrong is irrelevant and all that matters is us-vs-them
nobody is more racist than blacks
Perhaps we
September 4, 2009 - 17:20 ET by sam12663should threaten to boycott all of his programs sponsors; oh wait.... that might be difficult to do, seeing as he is on Air America, and the only people that listen to him are his sponsors. Oh well.
President Obama is nothing more than a lying empty suit; a Hollywood
style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to
be a total fraud.
WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
Montel is a National
September 4, 2009 - 17:54 ET by Dan DiegoMontel is a National frontman for "Big PHRMA", I guess they pay a dollar a day and all he can eat, snort, smoke, shoot, etc...
http://www.phrma.org/news_room/press_releases/humanitarian%2c_author%2c_talk_show_host_montel_williams_to_help_educate_americans_about_drug_assistance/
Take you own advice Montel
September 4, 2009 - 18:41 ET by Cho Yi Fan"WILLIAMS (1:30:32): Michelle, slit your wrist.Go ahead... or, do us all a better thing"
After you Montel.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have".
Thomas Jefferson
Well actually
September 4, 2009 - 20:14 ET by nwahsBachmann brought up the grizzly deed of people slitting wrists as some sort of "covenant", and to be "blood brothers" .I was about 21 or so during the Jamestown massacre in Guyana, where a charismatic nut job, Jim Jones, encouraged people to kill themselves in some sort of covenant. Having a politician encourage people to slit their wrists as part of a covenant, sends chills down my spine and I don't care what party they are.
The story here is not the crude joke Montel made out of Bachmann's grizzly suggestion. Its the fact that politician finds it acceptable to use terms like "covenant" and violent images of people slitting their wrists in a political speech. You keep making excuses for these anti-social nut jobs, and you could encourage another Jamestown or Waco. Its safe to say, when the subject has drifted to wrist slitting, you have exited the area of helpful, healthy, discussion and are firmly in the area of manipulation and weird.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
say....
September 4, 2009 - 19:35 ET by Kekela WardThat sounds like sexist hate speech to me (but I don't live on either coast).
Sam: "I hurt somebody's feelings once"
sexist Montel?
September 4, 2009 - 20:28 ET by RayRaywasn't Montel the one calling his wife a "greedy gold digger" during his divorce some years ago?
but he's black, so he can never be guilty of hate speech... not in the USA. In fact, he could have gotten away with saying "white bitch", just like Jamie Foxx did.
Montel sells some kind of overpriced juicer
September 4, 2009 - 20:28 ET by RayRaythe next time his 1/2 hour commercial is on, I think I'll call and explain why I'd never buy anything from him.
→ Sorry RayRay
September 4, 2009 - 21:51 ET by Cool ArrowI think Ed McMahon, Dean Martin, and Jackie Gleason are all dead.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
It Would Be Valid If Miss Bachmann Hadn't Made The Offer Herself
September 4, 2009 - 23:48 ET by The7SticksFirst of all, Montel is ripping off Phil Hendrie's offer that if she would slit her wrists, then he would drop support for a public option healthcare plan. It's all based off of a clip of some townhall rhetoric Miss Bachmann made, where she said she would slit her wrists before she supported a public option. As far as I'm concerned, she can share the same closet with Barbara Boxer because they're both morons regardless of political ideology. Honestly, you should follow Phil Hendrie's advice, drop the Democratic and Republican bullcrap and become a free man who doesn't care about political ideology. I'm one and proud of it.
Hey, hey, hey 7S... Glad
September 4, 2009 - 23:52 ET by bigtimerHey, hey, hey 7S...
Glad you're proud of yourself...finally.
You have yourself a nice week-end as well.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Montel!
September 5, 2009 - 00:46 ET by blazermaniacI have a better idea. Why doesn't Montel do the same the same thing with a knife? He's just another pathetic jerk!
nice
September 5, 2009 - 03:45 ET by OldJoeI guess that riding in that big orange bus can bring out the worst in people.
Liberal tolerance on
September 5, 2009 - 08:58 ET by wiwfLiberal tolerance on parade
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
September 5, 2009 - 10:24 ET by jessieHI never kiked Montel, anyway. I like Bachman. She tells it like I would. Montel is a nobody.
Where is the outrage against Montel Williams' Death Threat?
September 5, 2009 - 10:51 ET by DaMamaMontel Williams is an intolerant, hateful man. He must have read the Alec Baldwin playbook about attacking conservatives. Baldwin said on Letterman during the Clinton years that Rep. Henry Hyde (and his family!) should be KILLED because of the impeachment hearings against Clinton.
Now we have Montel Williams telling Michelle Bachman to kill herself. Will someone please explain to me how these liberal lunatics can get away with this stuff? If a conservatives says anything even close to this type of hatred gets crucified in the media. What a double standard!
Williams is typical of liberals today. They wear their hatred on their sleeve. For them it's free speech. For conservatives, it's intolerance. What a world we live in!
When you're a gutless criminally-minded liberal...
September 5, 2009 - 14:46 ET by stage9..and you see someone like Bachman who is actually successful and intellectually coherent, (not to mention good looking! -not like those plastic skanks in Hollywood) they become a threat to you. Liberals are like the Wizard of Oz...they sit behind a curtain with levers and buttons always looking to pull a fast one on the American people. Then when you have an intelligent woman come along and expose their imbecility they turn into a two year old whiner, sucking their thumbs and crying obsenities. Liberals are bafoons...nothing less.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge
Maybe good looking
September 5, 2009 - 17:18 ET by nwahsGood looking like that nut job character in "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle."
Bachmann invited people to slit their wrists. She's flipping nuts.
"Oh she's so pretty, never mind those dead rabbits she keeps in her purse.."
Bloody covenants?? She needs psychological help.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
nwahs, Wow - that feigned
September 5, 2009 - 17:42 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
Wow - that feigned horror of yours is really convincing.
Many people from many cultures over time have had something like a blood-brother ceremony. It's an act which symbolized loyalty and fidelity.
Since the practice isn't common today, you'd have to be a total idiot (or, in your case, disingenuous) not to know that she was speaking metaphorically.
But you choose to view her words as a literally advocating self mutilation.
Nice try.
I know
September 5, 2009 - 18:44 ET by nwahsMayans were particularly intelligent and bloody, but I thought we had progressed from human blood letting.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
nwahs, Being deliberately
September 5, 2009 - 19:33 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
Being deliberately obtuse - good angle.
Kind of the angle of this blog
September 5, 2009 - 19:40 ET by nwahsWouldn't you say? The reality is Montel made a joke about Bachmann's metaphor and the prostitutes among us don't think we should be so blunt. How's that for clarity, sweet pea?
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
nwahs, So I guess when
September 5, 2009 - 19:49 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
So I guess when you wrote...
... you were just joshin', right?
I ask, because your take on who meant what literally or otherwise seems to have changed.
Aside: I corrected myself in another post - I should have used "figuratively" instead of "metaphorically".
→ hydro
September 5, 2009 - 19:43 ET by Cool ArrowHe's completely out of the closet now. Seems nwahs saves his venom for female conservatives.
Last time I saw nwahs so worked up was when he defended David Letterman for making child molester jokes about Sarah Palin's daughter.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Cool Arrow, No, no -
September 5, 2009 - 19:54 ET by hydrodynDMCool Arrow,
No, no - nwahs really is a conservative.
The fact that he always seems to defend the liberal side of any story is, I'm sure, just some freak cosmic coincidence thing or something.
The honest side of the story is not the liberal side
September 5, 2009 - 20:06 ET by nwahsYou can see Bachmann is speaking figuratively but you can't see Montel was making a joke out of her clumsy metaphor? You have 50 lemmings reciting what a sadist Montel is for making this joke, and not one of them believe it.You have 50 lemmings who think the road to the White House is paved in bullsh*t. You call me a liberal because I'm not going to play a lemming? What liberal BS do you hear me spouting? That government run health care is good? You don't hear that. What right wing BS do you hear me spouting? That Montel is a ghoul that wants to see people off themselves? You won't see that either, but you did see 50 lemmings spouting that BS.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
nwahs, In the one and
September 5, 2009 - 20:11 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
In the one and only post of mine where I mention Williams, I wrote:
How is that me not seeing Williams making a (bad) joke out of a clumsy comment?
And we're obtuse.
hydro...
September 5, 2009 - 20:52 ET by JerBeing deliberately obtuse - good angle.
Acute observation.
Jer
Jer, The perfect
September 5, 2009 - 21:00 ET by hydrodynDMJer,
The perfect response.
Thanks - that made me laugh.
hydro...Thank you
September 5, 2009 - 21:08 ET by JerThank you...good to know I provided a moment of levity for at least one person.
Jer
Oh, for the love of Mike,
September 5, 2009 - 17:46 ET by HockeyKidOh, for the love of Mike, will you go away until you get an education?! It's exhausting to watch all you libs try to argue when you don't have the first clue about language, history, literature, politics, discourse, or practically anything else.
GO TO SCHOOL! Sheesh.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Surely you jest, sir
September 5, 2009 - 18:15 ET by QueenMumIt was a metaphor, nwahs.
Added: Sorry Hydrodyne. Missed your comment. But nothing wrong with repeating it, eh?
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
oh, I see
September 5, 2009 - 18:35 ET by nwahsHer line was metaphor, Montel's line was a serious call for her to commit suicide. Nah, I think its safest if we take both literally.
She's a psycho chick into bloody covenants, and Montel is a sadistic talk show host who wants to see the psycho chick off herself.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
That's what I thought
September 5, 2009 - 18:44 ET by QueenMumThat's what I thought nwahs. You mean it's all metaphorical? ;)
Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit!
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Goose meet gander
September 5, 2009 - 18:46 ET by nwahsWell take a gander at that! :D
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
Good evening nwahs
September 5, 2009 - 18:53 ET by cocodrieYour equiblibrium is off. The safest thing for you to do is have someone install a half ounce lead weight behind your left ear.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
My equilibrium is fine
September 5, 2009 - 18:56 ET by nwahsI drink with both hands ;)
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
You kill me
September 5, 2009 - 19:46 ET by Conservative Voicenwahs, stop with the stand up comedy routine, you kill me...oops, I guess I just called you a murderer.
Michele Bachmann was speaking metaphorically...if she at that moment banished a knife and began slicing herself, then you would have a case.
Mr Williams was also speaking metaphorically...in the way we all have said...go jump in the lake.
Now, go play in the freeway will ya
Ya think?
September 5, 2009 - 19:53 ET by nwahsYa think they were both being less than literal?
Here's the difference. Buchannan's image was violent, even though it wasn't literal. It created an image of a bloody covenant. Has she said "if we do this, we're slitting our own throats" its not as grizzly as crating the image of a bloody ritual. That prompted the joke. It was just so off the wall weird, and of course not literal. Weird, not literal.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
Sure, I don't think Montel
September 5, 2009 - 20:06 ET by Conservative VoiceSure, I don't think Montel was all that serious when he said his remarks....but the tell nwahs, is who you are chosing to attack?...Montel for advocating Suicide, or someone who is using a metaphor to explain her strong opposition...do you even understand blood oaths?
The tell nwahs, isn't Michele or Montel...its your reaction to it. Montel is looking for a cheap laugh...Michele is actually trying to stop something that will absolutely ruin this country...and you chose your side.
Now go jump off a cliff
I'm attacking the lie
September 5, 2009 - 20:09 ET by nwahsI'm attacking the lie that this was something other than a joke.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
so make that claim and
September 5, 2009 - 20:14 ET by Conservative Voiceso make that claim and leave it at that...instead of throwing mud at Michele, that is what people are reacting to you on.
Montel said a joke, it was a stupid joke along the lines of Imus and Letterman, but a joke.
see that wasn't that hard, and I bet no one here will accuse me of being a liberal for saying it.
But it was provoked by an
September 5, 2009 - 20:18 ET by nwahsBut it was provoked by an overly detailed figure of speech! The only thing missing in that setup, was goblet or chalice.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
keep digging nwahs
September 5, 2009 - 20:22 ET by Conservative VoiceI gave you an out, and instead you continued to attack Michele.
By their actions you shall know them
nwahs, How about her line
September 5, 2009 - 19:43 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
How about her line was figurative and his was flippant - and in poor taste.
How about her line was violent
September 5, 2009 - 19:48 ET by nwahsHer line was violent. The image of people slitting wrists is a violent image. What is this another "Well Nazism isn't just about exterminating people " moment? You hear "slitting our wrist" used a lot in benign conversation? Its a violent, grizzly image, designed to take the conversation from discourse to sedition.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
nwahs, Wow. I didn't know
September 5, 2009 - 19:59 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
Wow. I didn't know you were so sensitive.
I'll be sure not to use expressions like "killing two birds with one stone" in future posts. I'd hate for you to lose sleep over such violent imagery.
I'm not so sensative
September 5, 2009 - 20:14 ET by nwahsBut taking a common figure of speech and elaborating it into some sort of blood ritual is a bit different. I'm not saying she's violent, but it was clumsy in a weird way.
Its like instead of saying "kill two birds with one stone" you say " lets crush the heads of two finches and watch the life drain from their bodies as a symbol of our resolve." You can go into too much detail while speaking "figuratively."
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
nwahs, So just to keep
September 5, 2009 - 20:19 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
So just to keep this straight, you've gone from Bachmann being someone who is inviting "people to slit their wrists" and who needs "psychological help" to someone who did a poor job in getting across what she meant.
You do realize that when you post here, your comments stick around after the fact so people can go back and look at them, right?
the floating (decimal) point?
September 5, 2009 - 20:21 ET by katainkent*eyebrow wiggle*
___________________________________________
We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. ~Thomas Jefferson
No
September 5, 2009 - 20:29 ET by nwahsI've gone from using the absurd to illustrate the absurd to the coup de grace. I've gone from taking just enough truth and ladling just enough antagonism over it to put you in the uncomfortable position of having to reject the truth to keep some pride.It really is a child's game, but it makes millions.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
nwahs, Which truth are
September 5, 2009 - 20:32 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
Which truth are you trying to get me to reject?
(By the way, nice use of metaphor there).
That which actually happened
September 5, 2009 - 21:13 ET by nwahsWhich truth are you trying to get me to reject?
And not you personaly of course, but those participating in the thread. The Blog introduces this story as Montel makes a hideous remark that someone should kill themselves. Well that works, I read the blog and begin to seeth inside "how disgusting!"
Then I click on the link to find out what type of horrible devil's voice is inside Montel, to convert him from a fairly sensible, empathetic, Hollywood prostitute to a such a hateful Hollywood prostitute. Imagine my surprise when I hear him chuckling! "HOW SADISTIC! Not only does he wish the woman off herself, he's laughing when he does it!" Then I recognize he is reading Bachmann's words about this covenant. I know the word has many uses, but it seems to stir up Biblical images in me. It is certainly sounding more important that a simple agreement or pact. Its a covenant! Sounds slightly holy.
Then Montel, who is struggling with the text, gets to the part about the wrist slitting and blood brothers pledge in this (holy?) covenant and he laughs even more. He cracks the joke that she should slit her own wrist or better yet, her throat! Disappointment overwhelms me as I realize I've been a victim of bait and switch. This wasn't some callous vile wish in a vacuum. It was a musing, a joke over a clumsy line. I felt like the little kid that gets the cardboard truck in that bank commercial. "This is junk! I want the real truck!" Why did they screw me? I patronize them, why did they give me the cardboard truck?
Then I see 50 or so kids playing happily with their cardboard trucks. Excitedly they howl "It even has a real cardboard motor!" I'm just pissed because its cardboard. So I got the idea to give the truck back in a flamboyant way. Its still cardboard, but now the kids have to pretend its real, or admit they were gaga over cardboard.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
nwahs
September 5, 2009 - 21:40 ET by Conservative VoiceThis is where we agree. We need to be honest, and not make mountains out of mole hills if we are going to be taken seriously.
I absolutely agree with
September 5, 2009 - 21:48 ET by nwahsI absolutely agree with that. Its not always easy, but honesty is a solid foundation to build on. I will be a warrior in that fight.
nwahs, Well, even though
September 6, 2009 - 14:29 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
Well, even though it wasn't me that you were trying to put into a position of rejecting "truth" (which makes me wonder why you posted that to me, then), I'll still comment. I guess the brunt of your comment is this:
See, my issue with you in this thread has been the change in tone you've adopted regarding Bachmann's words. You've gone from statements like this:
To
You see what I'm getting at? My initial post to you accused you of feigning horror over Bachmann's words. The fact that your characterization of her words have gone from taking them as literal to figurative suggests that
1) you were being disingenuous from the start
2) you have been convinced that your initially overreacted to her words was wrong - but just won't admit it
So, which is it? Or is there a third option?
We're going in circles
September 6, 2009 - 16:46 ET by nwahsHow did we wind up back here?
You see what I'm getting at? My initial post to you accused you of
feigning horror over Bachmann's words. The fact that your
characterization of her words have gone from taking them as literal to
figurative suggests that
1) you were being disingenuous from the start
2) you have been convinced that your initially overreacted to her words was wrong - but just won't admit it
So, which is it? Or is there a third option?
I thought I answered your question here.
Let me elaborate. It was hyperbole, the same type of hyperbole used in this blog. Calling it a clumsy line is an acquiescence. I think she's a fruitcake, and the the fact that she chose the word "covenant" was no accident. But calling it a clumsy line instead of getting into her ideas that God is speaking to her, is the fastest way to get to the duplicity in this particular blog.
Now that I've called her a fruitcake this will break off into a branch about that, and how God speaks through people every day. Clumsy line was the fastest way to get down to brass tacks - duplicity.
For the record, I do think God reveals Himself through people, just not the people that yell the loudest about it.
nwahs, Oh, I know what
September 6, 2009 - 16:55 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
Oh, I know what you claim you were doing. I just don't believe you. My quoting you was to show why that is.
There's a line between being hyperbolic or sarcastic and playing dumb or being disingenuous.
Well all your quoting did
September 6, 2009 - 17:15 ET by nwahsWell all your quoting did is prove you don't know what hyperbole is.
Read a little more.
There's a line between being hyperbolic or sarcastic and playing dumb or being disingenuous
That statement is dead wrong. Its false.Most times hyperbole involves being disingenuous. This blog about Montel calling for someone to kill themselves is hyperbole and it is in fact disingenuous. Hyperbole is a conscious distortion of reality. So where in the hell could there possibly be a "line."That statement shows me you know nothing about hyperbole.
Your "dumb" crack is just a testimony that you are out of facts. Duly noted.
nwahs, Most times
September 6, 2009 - 17:55 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
I respectfully disagree. Hyperbole and sarcasm are rhetorical tools. Within the context of an argument, they are typically (but not always) used to exaggerate an opponent's position to show that their argument leads to unacceptable results.
This is what you claim you were doing.
Being disingenuous means you are making statements for the sake of an argument that you don't honestly believe. You might also call this playing dumb in cases where the beliefs you are pretending to adhere to are arguably or obviously wrong.
Using hyperbole or sarcasm works if the other guy knows that's what you are doing. Being disingenuous relies on the other guy not knowing what you are doing.
So I would say that most times hyperbole can't involve being disingenuous.
I think you were being disingenuous.
You were pretending to view Bachmann's words as a literal call for (in your words) self mutilation, knowing that she was only speaking figuratively. When this obvious fact was pointed out to you, you decided to criticize the graphic nature of her words. When your previous posts were pointed out to you, you decided that your whole point was to use hyperbole to demonstrate a flaw in the original post.
If that is, in fact, what your original plan was, then I think the convoluted manner in which you did it undermined that plan.
You're wrong
September 6, 2009 - 19:02 ET by nwahsI'm speaking of political hyperbolic rhetoric, not a generic literary device. Political hyperbolic rhetoric is by its very nature disingenuous. Its a scare tactic! I gave you Bachmann's words in the exact same distorted representation as the author of this blog gave you Montels words. The author of the blog created an obvious, malicious (scary), exaggeration of Montel's joke, and I did the exact same thing Bachmann's words. And if it wasn't painfully obvious that it was an exaggeration, I put in my tagline she was advocating self mutilation in response to health care reform. Yes its disingenuous, its obviously maliciously distorted. Its hyperbolic political rhetoric - like the blog - EXACTLY like the blog.
Now I did introduce some things in posts that are not hyperbole. I don't think she chose the word "covenant" by accident. I think she chose it for its Biblical connotations. Most people in politics use the word "agreement " or "pact" or "contract." Covenant? This is not just a fight, it implies its a holy fight. Thats not hyperbole. Thats an observation. If I were to call it her own little Jihad, that would be hyperbolic political rhetoric.
Still it fairly obvious the theme through the posts was "if you're saying Montel is encouraging suicide, I maintain Bachmann is advocating self mutilation." Get it don't get it. Don't care. Believe it don't believe it. Don't care. I'm not going to dissect a gumball to prove its a gumball. Its boring.
→ Not surprising
September 6, 2009 - 19:14 ET by Cool ArrowAnd it's not surprising tha, once again, you can't let go of a story if it gives you an opportunity to trash a conservative woman.
Your tenacity really shows through against Bachmann, almost as much as your defense of Letterman's child-rape joke.
It's funny. You just can't let go.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
nwahs, OK. So what I've
September 6, 2009 - 20:04 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
OK. So what I've taken away from this whole thing is that you are willing to post disingenuous comments to try to make a point.
Well, that's a perfect way to get people to not take you seriously.
Is nwahs being sarcastic, does he honestly believe what he's posting or is he purposely expressing ideas that he doesn't actually believe in order to make a point?
Who know. Who cares.
Here's a link to the mentioned commercial
September 5, 2009 - 21:50 ET by nwahsIts cute.
→ Yes, clumsy
September 5, 2009 - 20:22 ET by Cool ArrowI wouldn't have used those words. They are overly descriptive.
I wouldn't refer to Barack Obama, Idi Amin, or Wayne Williams as typical black men either, but I have Obama's permission to say it with impunity.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
QueenMum, Actually, now
September 5, 2009 - 19:41 ET by hydrodynDMQueenMum,
Actually, now that I think about it, I think I should have use the word "figuratively" instead of "metaphorically".
Either way, nwahs didn't seem to get the point.
Your slip is showing
September 5, 2009 - 19:44 ET by nwahsScientist
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
nwahs, Sorry - not sure
September 5, 2009 - 19:56 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
Sorry - not sure what you meant.
Care to elaborate?
Oops. Excuse please. Double
September 5, 2009 - 18:09 ET by QueenMumOops. Excuse please. Double post.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Someone say double? I'll have one
September 5, 2009 - 19:36 ET by nwahsAs you mentioned in the earlier post, I think it was the case of Bachmann creating a metaphor and Montel joking about the metaphor. But that doesn't make good copy.
"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.
"TELEVISION PERSONALITY
September 5, 2009 - 18:44 ET by Dan Diego"TELEVISION PERSONALITY Montel Williams apologized Saturday, and rightly
so, for threatening a 17-year-old high school student who had asked him
a fair question Friday while she was covering an assignment as a
Savannah Morning News intern."
"According to Ms. Scott and two witnesses, Mr. Williams threatened to
find and "blow up" the residences of the intern and two reporters with
her." - Savannah Morning News - 3 DEC 07
http://www.savannahnow.com/node/407736
2007
September 5, 2009 - 20:11 ET by katainkentMontel Williams should seek some professional help. Or at least a lawyer if he's going to make this a habit.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. ~Thomas Jefferson
→ Montel
September 5, 2009 - 20:17 ET by Cool Arrow"Do you know who I am? I’m a big star, and I can look you up, find where you live and blow you up" - Montel Williams, to 17-yr old student Courtney Scott.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
he was
September 5, 2009 - 20:19 ET by katainkentjust trying to impress her I'm sure.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. ~Thomas Jefferson
Montel's problem...
September 6, 2009 - 08:02 ET by riverratMontel perfectly demonstrates the radical Leftist's knee jerk reaction to anyone wishing to debate any issue upon which the Leftists have taken a stand....
Hurl insults... The two most common are "racist" and "radical right wing-nuts with "birthers" becoming more popular...
Those the Left can't convince, owing to their lack of brilliance or the facts - they attempt to befuddle with bullshit and insults.
~Oh dear
September 6, 2009 - 09:08 ET by choselife3xHere's another. Yeah, NB is "up and up" and "above the fray" alright.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today