Rush, Beck Warn Obama Administration Trying to Bring Country to Its Knees

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They warned back in 2008 what might happen if Barack Obama was elected president, and according to conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh and Fox News Channel host Glenn Beck, a lot of bad stuff is unfolding right before our eyes.

Limbaugh appeared on Beck's Aug. 26 program to discuss the threat of the federal government attempting to regulate the media. He explained the president's policy maneuvers were evidence that this can happen - with very limited opposition in the media.

"The stimulus plan - Glenn, look at what they're doing to the U.S. economy," Limbaugh said. "Anybody with a sense of economic literacy would know that this is not how you create jobs. You do not rebuild the private sector. This is being done on purpose. All of these disasters are exactly what Obama wants - the more crises, the better, the more opportunity for government to say let us in and fix the problem. And, with his number one opposition is on radio and Fox News. His number one opposition is on radio. They can't go Fairness Doctrine because it's too obvious. So, they're trying to do this backdoor route with diversity and ownership, a 100-percent tax on operating in order to pay public radio because they're supposedly fair."

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Limbaugh added that it wouldn't be done without some backlash from the American public - as they value their freedoms.

"It's insidious, but I don't think it's going to work in the end because the American people are too informed, Glenn," Limbaugh said. "They're too aware of it. Their radio means too much to them. Their free speech, freedom in general means way too much to them. And just as they're fighting back on health care and a number of other things, so will they fight back on this."

Beck was less optimistic about slowing the progress of what he perceived to be the Obama administration's effort to grab power when it comes to media. He argued that General Electric (NYSE:GE) CEO Jeffrey Immelt had situated himself, with his position on the Federal Reserve Bank of New York's board of directors and control of GE's media interests, to help the Obama administration achieve these goals. He pointed to MSNBC content as a forewarning of what is to come.

"If you watch what could only be called the organization's or the administration's organ, anything involved with GE or NBC - you've got now Jeffrey Immelt on the board of the Federal Reserve, you have him in the Oval Office, consulting not only health care but the financial situation and they are an organ," Beck said. "If you watch MSNBC, I contend that you will see the future because they are laying the ground for a horrible event that will be - as what they're laying the ground for, anything from the right, there some awful event and I fear this government this administration has so much framework already prepared that they will seize power over night before anybody even gives it a second thought."

Still, Limbaugh maintained it wouldn't happen without some reaction from the American people, thanks to efforts by conservative talkers like he and Beck.

"I think because of what you're doing with your television show, with your radio show - what we're all doing, I don't think they're going to be able to seize it over night without anybody knowing about it," Limbaugh said.


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I wish they were not

I wish they were not correct.

Open your eyes. Look what he's done in seven...

short months.  He has added more to our debt than all of our other Presidents COMBINED.  Only someone who wants to destroy our country would do that.  Jim Webster

jaw... Ed's eyes are

jaw...

Ed's eyes are open, he was saying he wished they weren't correct.

Know what I mean?   ;-)

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

See what I said later. I agree with EdHenry. I still...

think wishing is for Fairy Tales.  Jim Webster

I disagree

I don't think Obama is purposely trying to destroy the country.  I think Obama is just making bad decisions because he's just a lousy President.

I wish you were

I wish you were correct.

Too much brainpower in WH, too much anti-american advice and push from everywhere, too much power in congress and media to chalk this to a mistake. If you wanted to wreck the economy so you could take over, and I mean take over, you would do exactly what he is doing.

I did not think he would be this bad

I agree with EdHenry. We are watching a willful,...

and purposeful destruction of our country.  It's happening right before our eyes and if what has happened has happened in seven short months, think about the next 3 years, five months.  Say goodbye to dissenting voices, with talk radio at the top of the list.  Say goodbye to private enterprise, starting with small businesses that will be taxed and regulated out of existence.  Say goodbye to your paycheck, unless you have a peon job with the government.  Say goodbye to your Health Care because of government takeover.  Say goodbye to Freedom.  Jim Webster

Jawebster1

I agree with you 100%.  This is the agenda for Obama.

EdHenry,

"I did not think he would be this bad"

Actually, I did think he was going to be this bad. What has caught me off guard is the speed at which he got there.

There was a pile of foreign money that helped put the previously virtually unknown Obama in office. I am now convinced that whoever was behind that is the one currently pulling the strings of the marionette Obama.

I'm guessing George Soros is the puppeteer.

Makes perfect sense, as Soros hates this country with every ounce of his existence, and he has the financial clout to pull it off, too.

My fear is that, with the help of ACORN, Obama is going to be handed a defeat-proof socialist congress in 2010.

If that happens, we're finished.

-Dave

I agree with

I agree with Superman. 

I don't think Obama is purposely trying to destroy the country. 

What I think is that he doesn't have a clue what he is doing, or what the end result will be.  He is performing as President by the seat of his pants, using trial and error.  

I heard today that the deficit for this year is larger than the deficits for all of "The failed economic policies of the last eight years" combined!!!

Repeat: bigger than the total deficits of the past eight years!!!

And yet he makes no mention of cutting spending, reigning in giveaways; in fact keeps coming up with ways to spend more!

Paul Greenberg ahs a great column at townhall today in which he comes to the conclusion that

There may be something worse than having a president who is merely wrong, and that's having one who seems lost. 
(emphasis mine)

2010 is the key. Right now

2010 is the key. Right now the country is teetering on the cliff with a just enough pols fearful of re-election. If it goes further left in 2010, you have to plan for the possibility of chaos. And the cures are so easy, no more stimulus $$, tax cuts, increase eligible age of SS and Medicare, decrease government jobs and spending, if you weren't a committed anti-american.

"He is worse than I feared" How's that?  

I'm tired of all of it. 

I'm tired of all of it.  In recent years the federal government has become everyone's focal point because they're so much involved in our lives needlessly and unConstitutionally, and in many cases, simply un-American.  Probably every American has something more they know about (or at least think they do) the federal government than their state and local govt.  It's freakin bass ackwards but the feds like it that way.

And here we are, many of us, are taking time out of our lives,  going to DC on 9/12 BECAUSE of the federal government intrusion and complete overreach.  So I gotta spend my valuable time, in a protest to tell the government to leave me alone.  What a bunch of CRAP!!!!!!!!!!   Why should we have to tell the government to leave us alone, and take our valuable time to go do it??????????

I'm still trying to figure

I'm still trying to figure out why we have to live under Ted Kennedy's dream of socialized medicine just because he died.

Who was Ted Kennedy that the whole country should change course because of him?

I did.

I thought he would be worse. Shows how much faith I had in this clown.

Bad Decisions!?!?!?!?

You can officially place me in the tinfoil hat group.  One day we will all wake up, go to our computers, and the Internet (as it is today) will not be there.  All TV, cable, satellite, and radio communications will be controlled by our new Diversity Czar.  Martial Law will be in force.

All before the elections that should have been held in 2010.

Can anyone explain a different scenario considering what Hussein and his minions have done and are doing to our America?  Can anyone deny that Hussein and his minions are actively destroying our country?

Sadly, no; your scenario is

Sadly, no; your scenario is entirely plausible.  It is very difficult to grasp the fact that the democrat party can issue a statement in response to the first town hall demonstrations, where they say that the Republican party is desparate after losing two straight elections and "every major policy fight on capitol hill," and still blame Bush and Republicans for the "failed policies of the past."  Say what?  We've lost two straight election cycles, and every major policy fight, but are still blameworthy?  No, I don't think so.  I dunno about you, but 2006 was a pretty prosperous year for me and my company/employees.

If this kind of thing can go unchallenged, then, sure, they have carte blance to run this thing into the ground.  The leadership may know that they're doing it, but the Barbara Boxer's of their coalition have no idea.  They're just lemmings, and the real threat.

Funny thing is, if they had a conservative leader with a (D) after his name, they'd blindly follow.  Maybe that's the "fix?"  Just infiltrate their group, be real popular, and just enact conservative policies and call them liberal.  They probably wouldn't even notice.

So pathetic and sad.

Obama Is A Communist!

I don't think Obama is purposely trying to destroy the country.  I think Obama is just making bad decisions because he's just a lousy President.

Obama is a Communist! Hes right out of the Saul Alinsky playbook! He does want to destroy this country and make himself a permanent dictator. All his actions are characteristic of the Communist dictator. Look who his heroes are! Che Guevarra, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega, to name a few. Hes taken us down this road. If he doesn't succeed at Communism, he'll settle for Fascism!

I think Beck moves outside

I think Beck moves outside of Limbaugh's comfort zone. Limbaugh is used to being in charge and Beck is driving this bus. Get the popcorn. Beck is on his own roll. I think Beck is going to out Rush Rush. He is saying things that a month ago Rush wouldn't say, and it appears he has no desire to adopt a disciple position.

There's a new alpha male in town - if he survives the controversy.

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.

Nwahs - Beck will survive

He's got a big enough following and enough verifiable information to be able to stick to his guns and push ahead.

Unless, of course, the Obama administration suspends the whole constitution and forces him out.

This could turn into a real battle.

 

"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde

What I found most interesting in this exchange

This exchange was completely different than Hannity's interview of Rush some months back. Beck is not an alter boy for Rush, that's clear. The ideas highlighted in this segment were Beck's ideas and he didn't seem particularly interested in weaving them into anti-talk radio ideas. It'll be interesting to watch, but I don't think this is a Hannity/Rush relationship. I think this is Beck saying get on board or get out of the way.

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.

→ nwahs

Both have their forte.

Beck is miles ahead in directing investigation and expose', while Rush is always there with a "cut to the chase" analysis of the news.

Sometimes Beck is too in-depth for me after a 12 hour day at work, but I watch him faithfully.

I catch Rush on my days off and he fills the airwaves with loads of those "A-ha!" moments.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

This is just something to watch for me

I dunno, but Beck's demeanor seemed less like wanting approval or sanction, and more like "do you get it yet?"

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.

→ nwahs

I'm watching Beck now on DVR.  I'm just now to the Seton Motley interview

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

As you watch it

Does he seem to be soliciting Rush's advice or does it seem he is giving advice? Who's driving the bus here?

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.

Nwahs - It seems clear

It seems clear that Beck is carrying the ball now.  It'll be interesting to see how much support he gets from other conservatives as things heat up.

As an aside, I am baffled as to why no one is challenging the constitutionality of what the Obama administration is doing.  He's making what people thought Bush was doing seem really tame.

"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde

→ Conservative coalition?

Rush's agenda seems still too rooted in the Republican Party.

What I'm seeing is pretty much what you predicted, nwahs.  Glenn is leading the discourse.  But that's what he's good at.

I'd give a moderator's chair to Beck, but I'd want Levin, Limbaugh, and Mallkin on the panel.

That doesn't mean Glenn Beck would be seen as the "leader" by any interpretation.  It means he's better at drawing out realizations.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

I have no idea what it means

But it struck me as " now this is new."

Now I'm not comparing conservatism to the Kremlin in any way. But remember during the cold war, the only way you could detect shakeups in the Kremlin was by the order people stood at state funerals and parades? This interview struck me as a shakeup of conservative pundits :)

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.

Rush's agenda seems still too rooted in the Republican Party

I agree. I think he plays it safe to protect his income empire sometimes.  Just a feeling... 

M-B

FF... Just the Czars

FF...

Just the Czars alone should make everyone sit up straight that care about this country and what direction the O-Team is taking it!

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

BT - No Kidding!

Obama and his cohorts are doing everything they can to go around the confirmation process and consolidate power in the Executive Branch and NO ONE in the other two branches is doing anything to stop them.  I'm usually not one to over react, but I'm quickly becoming convinced that the country is being stolen right out from under us.

"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde

FF... Well, at least one

FF...

Well, at least one gal in the House is...along with others.

Where the heck have the voices been from the Senate though.

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

BT - She's the only one

It's quickly looking like people should start yelling at their Republican representatives to start showing some resolve and start defending the country.  I'm not seeing much opposition to what's happening from anyone in the Senate, either.  If they're thinking the Dems will do themselves in if they stay out of the way, they're taking a pretty big chance.

"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde

FF... There was a gal at

FF...

There was a gal at the McC TH yesterday who sure as heck brought it up...of course like other Q/A we won't see those unless you had watched it yourself...which for once I am glad I did.

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

Y'know, nwahs, smells to me like yer lookin' for a conflict

 where none exists between Rush and Beck. Are ya panting for some in-fighting?  You are not usually so reasonable with your questions.  I smell a rat.

 

"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington

I was only making an observation

Before this interview, I had never seen Rush play the supporting part in an interview other than with Bush, Cheney or Rove ( or a like political figure). With other political pundits, he's always the star. I think its interesting.

Personally I think Beck has a momentum that is probably impossible to maintain. I dunno. As i said before - get the popcorn.

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.

that's a good observation. Indepth and very interesting.

Who are you and what have you done with our nwahs??  Just kidding  ;-)  Am enjoying your analysis of this clip.

 

"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington

nwahs

"I had never seen Rush play the supporting part in an interview other than with Bush, Cheney or Rove ( or a like political figure)."

You make that sound like an indictment, nwahs.

Thankfully, those politicians -- and their "like" (you know, "like" actually having a shred of integrity compared to most politicians) -- had someone not out to lynch them publicly, and sheesh, actually maybe be a bit on their side.

Bush/Cheney had BOR, Hannity, Rush, let's seeeee.... who else, that would conduct an interview with some semblance of balance (but minus any peeing down the leg, or wooing with the eyes, or giving an out-and-out infomercial for said politician).....

And then you have Him, who has his pick of the litter of lap dogs to choose from. I think he has a special database designed just to keep them all on file.

 

 How did I make it sound

 How did I make it sound like an indictment? I don't know what it means. I don't know if Beck is a loose cannon or the future of conservatism. I do know he made Rush uncomfortable in that last point, and it was quite candid. I do know Beck drove this interaction. But I have no clue what it means, so I'm not indicting anyone.

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.

If you listen to the clip above

It ends with Beck saying that with the framework Obama has in place he could seize power overnight. Rush seems disarmed by this and taken aback and tries to play it down, saying Beck's show will keep people informed and prevent that. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems Beck is prepared to say things Rush won't. Is that reckless? I don't know. But there was divergence on that last point in the clip posted above.

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.

Did your head explode??

Did your head explode??

Media Matters and the Daily Kos must have banned...

nwahs from their site.  Jim Webster

Beck and Rush

Rush made a good point on his show yesterday and on Beck today. He said he didin't like saying the things he says about Obama but that the facts and the truth are out there for all to see. Beck makes the same point as he writes on his chalkboard like a classroom teacher. They believe that more and more Americans are finally waking up-- but they also agree that we should be very afraid of the Chicago thugs and their insidious plans for our nation. I thank them both for what they do and hope they continue to speak the truth and expose the enemy within.

 P.S. Many here on NB have said from the beginning that Barry is an enemy of America's ideals and values. At best, he is an indoctinated anti-American lefist. At worst ...

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Great news! I was afraid they were going to pre-empt...

Glenn's show because of you know what.  I DVR the show and watch it when Mark Levin's show is over.  Mark is talking to Hannity right now.  Jim Webster

0bama has a special NB wing ready..Jobs baby Jobs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkTZ8gPeQks&feature=related

Ready to ship nation wide...Throw away the key..Shovel out and refill.

As I have been saying around here for two years...

Obama will attempt to pull off a Marxist coup that will, if successful, pretty much mean the end of the America we all were born into, and grew up in.

I was wrong.

We are undergoing a full-bore Marxist blitzkrieg.

-Dave

Sad, but true. None of us suspected it was going to...

be this bad.  We knew it was going to be bad, but this administration is beyond bad.  Jim Webster

It won't happen...

I will not let it happen. Neither should you. The time is coming for us to make choice. We will make the right choice.

They will be defeated...I have faith in the people.

2010: A GOP Hill

Mike Rogers run for President

That was great.  Common

That was great.  Common sense speaking.

I saw the show tonight.  I

I saw the show tonight.  I don't see it often.  My head exploded.  Obama must be stopped.

Presidential Oath of Office....

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the
office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability,
preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." 

I assume his "out" is the "best of my ability" part.  If little ability, then little preservation, protection, or defense of the Constitution.  Maybe the founders should have left out that "best of my ability" portion that can be used as an excuse.

These thugs are acting like

These thugs are acting like any other common thug has acted throughout the world.  There is not a hair difference, for now, between Pol Pot and Obami. 

Frankly, it is us who must have been brainwashed over the course of the last forty years for us to let a Marxist such as Obami to occupy the White House. 

We've lost focus, these Marxists haven't.  They've always known exactly what they wanted in America, and we, over the last forty years have allowed it.  Apparently we've been afraid to be labeled anything while at the same time cowed into not labeling anyone else. 

We've allowed the Marxist to control the discussion, on any damn subject.  That is soon coming to an end.  News readers, television networks, magazines and newspapers will soon find out what it really is to see an angry American.  They will not like it, they will soon learn to fear an angry American.  Once and for all, arguments will be settled, they way they've always been settled.

This is our country.  This is not some third world crap hole.  It is up to us to confront who and what we see that is not being done right.  We know the difference.  Every little thing we've given a pass to in the last forty years has got to stop, and stop soon.  Time to right the ship, level things again.  You want to speak a foreign language?  Great, do it in your homes like a lot of folks great-grandparents did, so their kids would be forced to learn English. Speak English in public.  Don't like it? Tough, you'd better get used to it.  There are a lot of us that remember how America really is, and it isn't this crap hole it's becoming.  You got a right?  No you don't!  Earn it! Become an American, then you have the privilege.

Just as the PC police won't

Just as the PC police won't let anyone mention any murderous dictator as an analogy even if only speaking of their power grab and not their murder, people don't pay attention to their own govt unless a it is physically killing or jailing people.  A government that takes away rights and trounces on the Constitution, people blow it off as not really happening, because unlesss they see the govt physically doing something to someone, many don't care.  And GOVT KNOWS THIS!

Greg... Yep...until it

Greg...

Yep...until it affects them personally, they just let things slide and go about their merry way.

Love your post CRex...I'm with ya.

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

I've Said This Before

I've said this before but I'll say it again! Vladimir Lenin said the Communists would destroy this nation through its own system. They would first have to infiltrate the labor unions and the universities. They would turn the workers and the students against their government by emphasizing their rights were being taking away. as time went on, they would be brainwashed in the schools to the Communist way of thinking and they would infiltrate government to begin the process of taking these rights! The union workers would be warned that it was going on but they would blame it on organized religion and non-progressives aka Conservatives. So here we are today!

A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.

So what crisis will they invent to get this done?  It's obvious that their policies can't stand up to scrutiny so, as a consequence, they have to shut down anyone who disagrees with them.  It's just a question of how and I'm sure they have a plan.  They're starting to put the pieces in place, with all the czars they have.  COngress has vetted none of them and we really don't have a firm grasp on how much power they really have. 

It all comes down to trust and it's really difficult to trust anyone who is willing to ram through serious legislation without debate.  It's not until the legislation is passed that the flaws come out and our elected officials claim they didn't know what was in it.  It's time to just tell the elected officials, no more votes without knowing what's in the bill.  

Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.  

Crisis? What Crisis?

''So what crisis will they invent to get this done?''

Just as the Left has been inventing false Nazis and Racists and vandals and doctors, they will come up with the biggie - an assassination plot, perhaps with a government 'takeover' as part of it.

All bogus, of course, but enough to call for martial law.  Yeah, I know, there was no martial law when Ford or Reagan were attacked.  But what we're seeing now is a U.S. government takeover.  The Left will use any reason they can to enforce it.  Remember how Durbin trumped up some ''racially motivated death threats'' on Hussein's life to give him SS protection long before Hussein was nominated?  Clever, huh?  And since he's one-half non-white no one batted an eye.

I think the WHO is using the

I think the WHO is using the H1N1 to creat panic.  No one in the StateMedia is talking about how many deaths we get from the normal flus.  But by god they keep telling us about the swine flu.

"But I said nothing because

"But I said nothing because I didn't listen to conservative talk radio..."

The sad truth of the matter is things will have to get very, very bad for many other people to wake up...but most will retreat into their cocoons and wait for the Federal Cavalry to ride in and save them, and they will be more devoted to Dear Leader and D.C. than ever before.  You simply don't bite the hand that feeds you...and guarantees you employment, buys your diapers for your babies, protects you (sorta), and makes sure the games from high school on up continue, and the beer supply is unabated, and the cable TV and game shows aren't interrupted with news reports about the actions of idiots ranting about "Liberty" and something called "the Constitushion".

Maybe that's the plan?

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Democrats have been working

Democrats have been working against the United States since the slavery days when they opposed the Republican Party's support of black civil rights.  Then, with Roosevelt turning America into a welfare state.  Why?  Because people that are dependent on your policies tend to vote for you. Then, In 1965, knowing that it would change the face of the nations moral, economic, educational, law enforcement, security etc., they signed the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 that made America a melting pot of the Third-World.  Why?  To get people they knew would be reliant of a socialistic form of government.

Democratic policies have always ran against the grain of what America was supposed to be.  The more you think about their policies, the sicker you get. 

Obama is no different. 

I can't remember if it was

I can't remember if it was Andropov or Brezhnev, but one of these Commies said "I don't care if the people run out of bread, but they had better not run out of cigarettes or it's your head!"

And so it is with welfare, this administration could care less how much we have to work or for how long, as long as those federal taxes keep rolling in.

 "I think because of what

 "I think because of what you're doing with your television show, with
your radio show - what we're all doing, I don't think they're going to
be able to seize it over night without anybody knowing about it,"
Limbaugh said.

 

"Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds require time even after they are done before they can be seen and heard." – Friederich Nietzsche

 It takes "time" before these deeds can take hold and become acceptable to society. It is a slow boil effect. They are setting up the groundwork for the future. They can't seize it all at once, there would be too much of an outcry. Desensitization is their weapon. They did it with homosexuality; they'll do it with socialism too. A slow, methodical drip.

 

 

"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge

As usual...

Rush, Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Levin, Maltin, Ingram, Coltier, ...

...where does one stop?   Yes, they are all well known CONSERVATIVE heads but they are all correct in what they predict.  And, there are dozens more like them that take the lashings from the liberal heads, big media, and unions that have been notoriously wrong in their predictions except for the big one:  Obama as president.

When is this country going to wake up?

Beck, Limbaugh are being targeted precisely because...

...they're so effective. Beck has been around a shorter time than fellow Foxers O'Reilly and Hannity -- and his audience, while growing -- is still smaller than that of those two -- but he is being demonized because of his educational efforts vis-a-viz the fascist/Marxist grab for power in Washington are right [in more ways than one] on.

America is in a war for survival like no other since...

WWII, only this time the enemy runs our own government.  If Obama succeeds we are just like Venezuela, only bankrupt.  It's going to be tough to get out of this mountain of debt that is crushing our future.  I think that had to be part of their plan.  Another part of their plan is doing away with the opposition like talk radio, Fox, and Republicans which they are in the process of doing with this FCC "diversity" chairman.  If Republicans lose their lone voice in the media (talk radio) we are done and gone.  Jim Webster

America is in a war for survival like no other since...

WWII, only this time the enemy runs our own government.  If Obama succeeds we are just like Venezuela, only bankrupt.  It's going to be tough to get out of this mountain of debt that is crushing our future.  I think that had to be part of their plan.  Another part of their plan is doing away with the opposition like talk radio, Fox, and Republicans which they are in the process of doing with this FCC "diversity" chairman.  If Republicans lose their lone voice in the media (talk radio) we are done and gone.  Jim Webster

Re Takeover

A 'takeover' as Beck warns about would have to happen after the implementation of the Bamster's armed civilian force of Obama Brownshirts. I expect that the master schedule has him beginning the brownshirt plan in early 2010, but given his crash and burn on Obamacare he may lose so much momentum (and money) that the brownshirts will be off the table entirely. For the sake of our country let's hope so.

These are the Bamster's words: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Of course, no one in the liberal media asked him just what the hell that meant.

That means at least a million armed men along with whatever typical military equipment would be useful domestically. That probably means something like the Army's airborne divisions, basically an infantry force with air mobility. It would not mean tanks but likely APC-level light armor.

hmmm like a MATV

I think invasion of rural Red State first. Big troublemakers there with guns.

ahhh

it's kind of like, I'm sorry I didn't know what was going to happen when I lit the match 

please. I only hope they're not THAT stupid so they are more easily defeated.

Nah I think not. They know exactlywhat they're doing.

 

Stop defending your Government. Start thinking about defending your family and God Bless. 

 

Take over

The President, and the machine behind him, are communists. Pure and
simple. Limbaugh and Beck are spot on, and we all need to wake up. On second thought...it may be too late.

The Obama machine is determined to take this country over.  It is my belief
that a framework was set up long before Obama became President, and
that framework was put into action before he was sworn in. This
administration hit the ground running and they seemed to have picked up
speed. The country is moving into communism so rapidly it's taking our breath away. Most cannot believe their eyes, so they try to make it something else, or just deny it althgether.  If the country continues to move towards communism there will soon
come a time when any dissenting voice will be silenced. If that
happens, this site, along with FOX, Rush, Beck, etc., are all doomed. We can count on it. 

My 2 cents.


The sheer idiocy of Rush and Beck

Sounds Ominous, doesn't it? Whatever "it" is.

Where do Beck and Limbaugh pull this gibberish from?  What they both say is literally,nonsensical.

Rush says: "So, they're trying to do this backdoor route with diversity and
ownership, a 100-percent tax on operating in order to pay public radio because they're supposedly fair."  I think Rush pulled this from his own "backdoor route".  This is the biggest load of hooey. I defy anyone to corroborate what Rush is claiming. First though, I defy any of you to decipher what he’s saying.

Then again, he uses those words sure to strike fear in the
average dittohead, just like Pavlovs dogs when the bell rings:  diversity (lions),  100 percent tax (tigers), public radio (and Bears)!!!  Oh my!

Then he compliments you.  Sure, cause you're so smart you get it, while no one else does:

"It's insidious, but I don't think it's going to work
in the end because the American people are too informed, Glenn," Limbaugh said. "They're too aware of it. Their radio means too much to them. Their free speech, freedom in general means way too much to them. And just as they're fighting back on health care and a number of other things, so will they fight back on this."  What is Rush’s definition of “this” and what is it you are fighting back on again?  Anyone?

Freedom, that’s it, they want to take that thing away from us!!!  Bell rings, Pavlov’s dogs salivate.

Flattery gets Rush everywhere with those empty platitudes about you being too smart for “them”.  He’s smart too, he’s just like you.  But really, you don’t know what the H he’s talking about either. 
Alls you know is that he’s making some very vague references to some very vague conspiracies and dadgummit, you’re gonna fight them over here before you have to fight them over there!

Then Beck chimes in with more vague references to vague
conspiracies:

“If you watch what could only be called the organization's
or the administration's organ, anything involved with GE or NBC - you've got now Jeffrey Immelt on the board of the Federal Reserve, you have him in the Oval Office, consulting not only health care but the financial situation and they are an organ”.  What the H is Beck talking about?  And which “organ” is that again, Glenn?

Despite what Beck purports, and all that grand conspiracy stuff that it impies, Jeffrey Immelt is not on the Board of the Federal Reserve.  No way, no how!

Here’s some facts about the Republican lead Federal
Reserve:  The Federal Reserve oversees
the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks (all of which are private banks, of which the regional New York Federal Reserve Bank is just one).  The Chairman and Vice Chairman of the Federal Reserve are Republicans Ben Bernake and  Daniel Kohn each of whom were appointed by George W. Bush.  Two other board members, Kevin Marsh and Elizabeth Duke were also appointed by Bush, while Marsh worked directly for the Bush Administration prior to his appointment.  The fifth member of the Fed and the lone Democrat on the board is Daniel Tarullo, who was appointed by Obama.  Ooooooh.  There's one lone Democrat among the five Republicans, hide the children.

Jeffrey Immelt is not on the Board of the Federal Reserve.  He is one of 9 members of the board of directors of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, which is one of 12 Federal Reserve banks.  Each of the 12 banks has 9 directors which are not appointed by the President, but rather by the individual, private banks themselves.  Immelt is 1 of 108 members of the private bank boards, and his influence is exactly what?  Oh, yeah. It’s that vague conspiracy thing again.

It all sounds so ominous though when Rush and Beck say it.

Oh wait, there’s even more vague conspiracy blather from
Beck:

MSNBC and GE “they're laying the ground for, anything from
the right, there some awful event and I fear this government this administration has so much framework already prepared that they will seize power over night before anybody even gives it a second thought."  What the H are you talking about Beck?  What "awful event" are you talking about.  Oh yes, it's that vague thing hiding under the bed.  What a blithering idiot.

I’ve got news for Beck and Rush; “they” seized power
already.  It was called an election.

Never fear though, the cowboys in the white hats will come
in to save the day at the last minute. 
Here’s the self-agrandizing Rush:

"I think because of what you're doing with your
television show, with your radio show - what we're all doing, I don't think they're going to be able to seize it over night without anybody knowing about it," Limbaugh said.

Oh then, never mind.  Hang up your six guns boys, Rush and Beck will keep America safe from that "thing", that vague threat thing.
Tune in tomorrow for another tale from the dog and pony show.

Wish you were correct 007.

Wish you were correct 007. I read your post and wish you were right.

unfairness doctrine = state controlled airwaves. (why would you ever want gov't controlling speach, ever). GE/NBC too close to administration for NBC or MSNBC to be objective. 

Deficits = bankruptcy (half of what we spend will be borrowed).

Bankruptcy = crisis = takeover (example auto companies, banks, etc). Or worse print money and cause hyperinflation.

Crisis = opportunity to sieze control (crisis is "opportunity" as stated by admininstration)

Carbon credits worth nothing without cap (tax) and trade = higher energy costs = higher unemplyment = more crisis

Czars = unsupervised action. Why appoint them if you don't expect them to control something as each industry faces crisis. 

Too many advisors and funding agents are committed anti-americans, or at least anti-capitalists.

Dems in gov't calling protesters anti-american.

Every move made to date has weakened the economy with no offsetting action on the budget = higher taxes = higher unemployment = more crisis = more control.

All predictions of unemployment, deficit, impact of stimulus, effect of healthcare bill on deficits and private health insurance, and economic recovery have been wrong/lies

Individual freedom comes only from individual responsibility and a government limited to only that which is absolutely necessary.

 

I am Correct about Rush and Beck, edhenry

Rush and Limbaugh play on the irrational fears of their listeners, and they get paid handsomely for it.

Their listeners accept as fact what spews from their pieholes. 

For instance, you have a concern about the "unfairness doctrine" which Rush, in a dissembling, dishonest, incoherent rambling, said this:

"this backdoor route with diversity and ownership, a 100-percent tax on operating in order to pay public radio because they're supposedly fair"

It's easy to read the vile lies between his incoherent lines; he's claiming that Obama is going to tax someone, although he doesn't say who, 100%!!! And then give that money to Public Radio! And don't ask me what the "diversity" thing means, except that it must be a code word referencing the lazy minorities in this country who are responsible for all of white America's problems.

It's preposterous and disgusting.  And many listening to him believe he's speaking truth to power. Instead he, and Beck, are speaking fearmongering lies to the ignorant.  Don't any of their listeners get tired of the fear mongering?  Is it really possible that any President is really so evil?

BTW, months ago, Obama said he was not going to revisit the fairness doctrine during his admistration.  So what exactly is it that Obama is trying to do to right wing radio?  Examples please. Anybody?

Other than citing Becks and Rush's incoherent ramblings, you can not come up with any examples.

No one is listening to your yapping bigot.

  Take your bigot whining elsewhere.

Diversity

1. No one but you went to "minorities" on the issue of diversity. No one mentioned minorities, no one insinuated mionorities. Its the liberal dogma that is the "diversity" issue. The liberals hate it now that they don't control all information, and they will do anything (by any means necessary is their mantra) to retain it. Why else would there be an unfairness doctrine introduced now with all the news outlets, when its only use was when there were only 3 (ABC, NBC & CBS)

2. O said he "was not going to revisit unfairness doctrine". Since he has been on target with all other predictions (budget, taxes, unemployment) and he hasn't lied about all other issues, we can all take his word to the bank. And he abdicates all legislation to congress anyway, so he doesn't have to "revisit" this issue, congress will do his dirty work.

3. "fear mongering lies to the ignorant" I have more education, age and experience than I care to possess (More than Obama and trust me, not proud of it, as everytime I returned, the profs were more anti-american than the last time I was there).

4. Is it possible that a president is so evil. The liberals were convinced Nixon, Reagan, Bush II were evil. But no one mentioned evil with O except you.

This administration is engaged in a deliberate, deeply misguided attempt to "reshape" America, shaped by radical advisors, communist theology, ignorance of the constitution (no rights are conferred to individuals by the gubment, so they cannot bestow the "right" to healthcare) and a lack of understanding that individual freedom is only possible through individual responsibility and a government limited only to that which is absolutley necessary.

 

Who introduced Unfairness Doctrine, edhenry?

Yes, edhenry, why else? "Why else would there be an unfairness doctrine introduced now"

Who, "now", introduced the unfairness doctrine?  No one, that's who.

This is just more of the same, and I quote myself again, "fear mongering lies to the ignorant."

Here's what you say, and what's so discouraging about those as malleable as you seem to be:

"I have more education, age and
experience than I care to possess (More than Obama and trust me, not
proud of it, as everytime I returned, the profs were more anti-american
than the last time I was there)"

It is quite common to be intelligent yet ignorant.  I believe you're intelligent and well educated and that's what makes this all the more disturbing.  You believe in conspiracy theories without a scintilla of evidence corroborating your beliefs.

Other than Rush, Beck, et als and even politicians fear mongering about what "might" happen, what evidence is there that something is happening.  Answer this question with concrete facts.

The answer is that the Fairness Doctrine is not even on the radar screen of Obama, his administration, nor the Democratic Congress - it just ain't gonna happen.  Show me proof otherwise.  If you can't, admit to yourself at least that you've been duped by charlatans and not used your education and intelligence wisely.

I'd love to go point for point with you Ed, but just one more:  I debunked the silly nonsense about Jeffrey Immelt being on the Feral Reserve (as Beck purposely dissembled he was) and his supposedly having an exaggerated influence because of that.  But the comments that followed dismiss the actual facts I present as invalid.  And they referred me to websites that actually proved my point.  How bizarre is that?

How is it possible to have intelligent debate on the real problems that face this country when facts are interpreted based on a political perspective instead of intelligence and logic?

→ 007

The fairness doctrine goes back considerably farther than Glenn Beck.  That we may prefer to call it by it's more accurately descriptive name, the "unfairness doctrine", shouldn't be a problem.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

Fairness Doctrine is dead

It doesn't matter what you call it.  The fact that there's no chance in heck that the Fairness nor UnFairness Doctrine will be brought back during the Obama Adminstration doesn't matter to the charlatans.

Charlatans like Beck can use the non-issue to rile up their pliable, ignorant, servile followers.

 

OO7... They are slowly

OO7...

They are slowly but surely using various means to implement the Fairness Doctrine....one way or the other.

Where have you been?

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

Examples Bigtimer

Talk radio is as robust as ever.  Fox News is untouchable. 

Where are the examples of the FD being implemented? 

Unfairness doctrine: Dick

Unfairness doctrine: Dick Durbin D-IL "its time to bring the unFairness Doctrine back" US Rep Eshoo D-CA " I'll work to bring it back. I still belive in it. It should and will effect everyone" Followed by Stabenow D-MI Harkin D-Iowa.

Fronting this by Dems is first step, then poll taking, then $$$ (politicians get $$ just for mentioning legislation from those who support it and those that oppose it), then time. Quicker for O to do this through Mark Lloyd, new FCC "diversity" Czar. Now why would you have a diversity Czar if you wern't interested in state controlled content? O explicitly denied support of "unFairness Doctrine", which 1) is the easy thing to say as congress writes his legislation and 2) he has no credibility (banks, autos and health care takeover - which O denies are confiscations and tax and trade are job creators - are you kidding me?).

And this all clearly rebuts your demand for proof of what is happening. And I haven't mentioned the destructive effect (to employment, the dollar, waste/graft and the future solvency of US) of these stimulus packages. Which is then compounded by the "Tax and Trade" legislation. There has been so much destructive legislation and spending so far, I no longer worry about what "might" happen, as what has occured is enough to wreck the country (if healthcare and tax and trade pass = big job loss). And I say wreck the country because if unemployment goes >22% (its 16% now), there won't be enough capital and economic infrastructure to support the finaincial commitments we have made through our debt obligations.

Conspiracy theory. Just like your "minority" assumption, only you are talking "conspiracy". The rest of us are talking about misguided policy, supported by too many people who are pro gov't to the point of violating the constitution and the principles of our founders = small govt, and otherwise anti-capitalists, and a few committed anti-americans. 

On Immelt, correct on the FRBoard. He is on FRBank of NY, which is not unusual. But he is basing GE's future on gov't contracts, and the media outlets owned by GE reflect a clear bias to the administration. Very sad.

This is my final post as I could bury you if we continued (I noticed you can write an extraordinarily long post, but can't go "point by point" as you say). Which is code for "I cant go point by point". So I will say that you have unjustly conferred intent and meaning ("code for minorities" and "conspiracy") where none exisits. And the "ignorance" comment is unfounded. I have found this site to be more useful, insightful, intelligent, respectful and diverse than any other.

Bottom line is that Rush and Beck are right more than I want them to be. I dont want to believe this administration is this destructive, but so far it is. And it is so bad, that the discussion of intent/conspiracy no longer matter, the results speak for themselves.

Non Rebuttal from Edhenry

These pathetic examples you use to support your premise?  Durbin et als say blah, blah about the Fairness Doctrine?  Are you kidding me?   Politicians throw red meat to their minions all the time.  But where's the beef Edhenry?  Where's the legislation?  Oh that, well uh...  It ain't never gonna happen Ed.  Not even close.

But wait, your conspiracy goes further:  "Quicker for O to do this through Mark Lloyd, new FCC "diversity" Czar" - It must be true cause Beck told you so.  Sorry, but it just ain't possible for Lloyd to do the things you "fear".  He simply doesn't have the power.  Not in America.

Oh, but there's even more to the conspiricy, there's that 100% tax Rush was taking about!  How come you didn't indclude that piece of the pie?  Do you find that one preposterous also?  But only that one?

Laughable.  I thought you showed promise Ed, but it turns out you wasted your education.  I do have a bridge to sell ya though.

The charlatans like Beck and Rush that sell you this garbage are the only anti-americans I know of.

OO7... Yet you and your

OO7...

Yet you and your ilk fear them.

Proof is in the pudding.

We shall see who wins.

Remember one thing...if we lose...you will too in the long run.

Fool.

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

The fear mongering charlatans are un-American

They hold their minions in thrall, like tent revival preachers, with their fearmongering.

The premise their minions accept with complete faith is:  You can only believe them because the press is librul.

You do have to ask yourself one question though; if thousands of journalists are willing to lie for the librul cause, what makes the relatively small, conservative faction less likely to lie to help their cause?

Family values?

You do have to ask yourself one question though; if thousands
of journalists are willing to lie for the librul cause, what makes the
relatively small, conservative faction less likely to lie to help their
cause? 

Family values?  Thats a joke. This is reality. There are voices in the conservative community that are striking back at the conservative nut jobs that are trying to paint Obama as Hitler or some rogue President.

I'll give you two off the top of my head that are hated by the sheep  conservatives - Brooks and Frum ( sounds like the country team Brooks and Dunn don't it :) ) 

But back to serious. Can you name two liberal journalists enduring the scorn of their party to call out irresponsible liberal spin?Can you namee two liberal journalists hated by the liberal sheep for seeing through the spin?

"O..L..I..G..A..R..H.. one letter is missing."- Glenn Beck

Name the liberal spin

Name the liberal spin and I'll name the journalists.

I can name a few more hated by the sheep conservatives off the top of my head though; Kathleen Parker, William F. Buckley, Jr., Peggy Noonan, Shepard Smith, Joe Scarborough, Andrew Sullivan, Tony Blankley, R. Emmet Tyrell, Jr.

Some of these took the wrath, and death threats, for their contrary opinions or reporting.

But come on, what is the equivelent liberal spin to:  Obama's not a citizen, he's a Nazi, he's a racist, he's a socialist, he's a muslim, etc

I've read a lot of criticism of Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid etc in the librul press.  I don't see a lot of hate though for the journalists voicing those opinions.

007... HUH? You are a

007...

HUH?

You are a comedian...I'm not kidding...you have me laughing, not just here, but in another post you left me and asked me to prove something. (which btw: google Mark Lloyd + FCC for a start...then again I know you already know that..or look back on Seton Motley's blog spots here.)

You know exactly what I am talking about at all times, you fool very few...now bounce along with that red ball and follow to the end of the rainbow in your mind, which is nothing but an illusion.

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

The jokes on you bigtimer

The jokes on you bigtimer.  I did google 'Mark Lloyd + FCC' and found pages of commentary and opinion from mostly far right of center fearmongers.   I found one link to a lefty site.

It's nothing but speculation and innuendo and, of course, lies about Lloyd.

The Lloyd story will go the way of all the right wing conspiracies; Beck, Rush etals will trump up a grand conspiracy about blah, blah, then their minions will get all riled up, then none of what the fearmongers warned against will come to pass, proving that Beck, Rush etals are indeed charlatans.   But by then no one will notice since six or seven other conspiracies will have taken it's place.

So many conspiracies, so little time.

Uh, sorry.

"but in another post you left me and asked me to prove something."  Uh, sorry.  I wonder where that was.

Oh great.  Another Troll

Oh great.  Another Troll Sleaper Account has been activated.

FACTCHECK Edhenry - Unemployment 9.5% not 16%

The government stats on unemployment is 9.5%.

What dark recesses of Beck and Rush's behinds did you pull the 16% stat from. 

edhenry Kool Aid Drinker stat:  "And I say wreck the country because if unemployment goes >22% (its 16% now), there won't be enough capital and economic infrastructure to support the finaincial commitments we have made through our debt obligations."

Sure it's 16%, when mooses fly out of Becks's butt, Edhenry. 

Where do you quote your blatant idiocy from?  What a rube.

Do you get embarrassed when you're caught passing on such idiocy for facts?

Sorry you went to government school, 007memo

If you hadn't, then you would know how the government comes up with those numbers, and that their published unemployment numbers are generally about half of what they actually are.

It has been that way for decades.

I would say the real unempoyment number is around 18% +/-.

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

The 9.5% number only

The 9.5% number only includes people who are unemployed, that is, have no job at all and are seeking work.

It does not include people in the following categories:  (1) persons working part time or on reduced hours but desirous of full-time employment.  (2) persons on welfare who have given up seeking employment  (3) persons who have returned to school who would otherwise be working full-time if suitable employment were available.

Category 1 is of particular interest.  In my area, approximately 3% of the ENTIRE population has been subjected to 'unpaid furlough' of 5 - 16 days in the last calendar year.  The companies in question have very carefully imposed these furloughs at no more than 4 days per quarter, which means the furloughed employees are not elligible for any unemployment nor are they counted as unemployed.   Our effective unemployment rate is close to 16%.

Now tell us, if a Republican were President, how would you be countiung the unemployment rate?  With the department of Labor statistics or with the effective unemployment rate?

ONE STANDARD for tracking unemployment

There is one standard for calculating unemployment by the federal government, whether a Democratic President or Republican President is in office.

Kool Aid Drinkers like you pretend there's a different standard when a Democratic President is in office.

The unemployment rate is currently 9.5%.

Get a life.

You're up late on a school

You're up late on a school night?

Tsk, tsk.

Why is the 007Bigot here if there is nothing to worry about?

  Why does the 007Bigot come to a site he disagrees with, respond to an article he disagrees with, an article about 2 people he disagrees with?

  If there is nothing to worry about, why the 7 page rant with barely attributed quotes? Why the compulsion to come here? Is it because the 007Bigot is scared? Is it because the 007Bigot was instructed to come here and correct the record? But if the record is wrong and no one listens, why the need to correct?

  Hey bigot, next time you write a 7 page treatise, try making it, oh I don't know, readable. A 7 page treatise that was 75% quotes from the same article we just finished reading. How are you going to correct the record with crap no one wants to read, bigot?

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

JWF, Because I'm Fascinated by what makes you tick

And by tick, I mean as in time-bomb.

It is so cute when people don't do research before a rant

 Despite what Beck purports, and all that grand conspiracy stuff that it
impies, Jeffrey Immelt is not on the Board of the Federal Reserve.  No
way, no how!

 

http://www.newyorkfe...

ha ha ha ha ha ha

Jeffrey R. Immelt (bio) 2011
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
General Electric Company

 

OMO. That's gonna leave a mark.

 

Lee Bollinger. That

Lee Bollinger. That frackin' jerk who allowed the goon President of Iran to "lecture" at Columbia.

He's on the Fed????? Lunacy.

 Man, the US is so up s+it creek without a paddle.

Thanks Barack! You've done more to promote conservatism than any president since Ronald Reagan (PBUH).

No, He's not on the Fed Jack Bauer

No, Lee Bolinger is not on the Fed.  He is one of 9 members of the board of directors of the New York
Federal Reserve Bank, which is one of 12 Federal Reserve banks.   The Fed oversees the Federal Reserve Banks.

The Fed, or Federal Reserve, is dominated by Rebublicans so rest easy.

So cute when Facts confuse the Conspiricists

You understand as much as Beck about the Federal Reserve.  What you link to actually proves my point.

You've looked at the the same facts as I do yet you interpret them with a paranoids clarity.  You are in good company with Beck and Rush.

The reason you don't understand is that you've confused the Federal Reserve Banks with the Federal Reserve System which oversees those banks.  Actually, the real reason your confused is that you don't want to believe that your heros are idiot conspiricists.

The fact remains that Immelt is not on the Federal Reserve Board - that board oversees the Federal Reserve System and is dominated by Republicans appointed by George Bush. 

Immelt is on the board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, a private bank - whatever influence he may have, it would be a minor fraction compared to that of the Republican dominated, national, Federal Reserve Board of Governors. 

From that same website you linked to:

Federal Reserve Banks
Each Reserve Bank is headed by a president appointed by the Bank's nine-member board of directors. Three of the directors are elected by the commercial banks in the Bank's region that are members of the Federal Reserve System. The other directors are selected to represent the public with due consideration to the interests of agriculture, commerce, industry, services, labor and consumers. Three of these six directors are elected by member banks and the other three are chosen by the Board of Governors (Yes, they're chosen by that Board of Governors which is dominated by Rebuplicans.) 

So, Immelt is one of nine directors of the New York Federal Reserve Bank.  He has been a Class B director since 2006 - long before Obama came on the scene. 

Also on your site it points out the following:

"He has been named one of the “World’s Best CEOs” three times by Barron’s and named the Financial Times “Man Of The Year” for 2003."  You might agree that Barron's and FT are both rather conservative papaers - or are they in on the conspiricy too?

It kind of stands to reason that the New York Fed Bank would want such a respected capitalist on their board.

Facts don't matter to conspiricists.

 

 

no i expect you to die Mr Bond

Defy, you say? Oh God.

Thanks Barack! You've done more to promote conservatism than any president since Ronald Reagan (PBUH).

If no one accepts the "defy"...

...I believe the next step is the challenge to duel.

Sharpened carrots at 50 paces. 

Defy, in light of the impossible

Beck and Rush defy all logic, and facts.  There's not any other way to say it.

Guys, it's beyond that

There is also the Federal Reserve which Ron Paul is DEMANDING a look into...especially with how Timmy Turbo Tax Cheater Geithner responded to Congressman Paul.

 

And the forced so-called Swine Flu vaccinations which MSNBC quack Nancy Snyderman supports!

 

And the civilian youth brigade which will remind some...OF HITLER'S SS brigade and how one Florida Mayoral Candidate wants to propose it.

 

 

The reason the media is corrupt?  Two words...OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD!

 

MOCKINGBIRD - The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA

Ron Paul and Barney Frank, perfect together

I'm pretty sure I just read that Paul and Frank are sponsoring a bill to investigate the Federal Reserve.

I'm not sure this is a good thing.  Paul is too much of a paranoid, Frank, well... I'll let you fill in the blank on that one.

→ Go for it memo

Sorry, but I've got a square peg.

Maybe you could fill in the blank.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

I said blank

I said blank, not "blankety-blank"

Rush was being deferential

to Beck because it's Beck's show. As Rush pointed out, I think he deeply appreciates Beck, who unlike the impotent drive-bys, has taken the journalistic mantle in exposing the One World Order that Obama is building.

First time Glen Beck watcher last night

Hey if Sarah Palin Palin tells me too, I gotta listen right? :-)  I thought it was very scary about what he said about Obama's FCC Czar. Free speech is probably one of my biggest voting issues and Glen Beck painted a very scary picture. 

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

It wasn't just scary

Beck painted the picture of a rogue government. That kind of talk can get really dangerous IMO. Its not dangerous for me. I don't think there is a secret plot to destroy the Constitution. But I don't know if its responsible to paint a picture of the government being at war with its citizens.

Beck is talking about an overnight transformation into a dictatorship or other form of tyranny. Thats some brazen accusations.

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.

I caught this on YT yesterday

While I still think that GB is an entertainer at heart, a little frenetic at times and hard to follow...  I think he has good information.  He also is fully open that he doesnt have all the facts on the table and the part I find the most heartening is that he encourages people to take notes and do their own research.  I just can't see any other tv host doing that.  At all.  Ever.

___________________________________________
"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller" Barack Obama (Dr. In Chief)

Why research when Beck tells it like it is?

He encourages your research but I don't think many of his followers actually do any research on their own.  If they did they would learn that Beck's a charlatan.

I laughed so hard watching his Thursday program, the joke is on his viewers though. You're right on with a doozy of an understatement, katainkent, when you say he's "a little frenetic at times and hard to follow".

 

oh hi

I've researched the facts independently from what I've seen on his show and found nothing out of line.

Have you?

___________________________________________
"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller" Barack Obama (Dr. In Chief)

Where'd you research, katainkent?

Where'd you research, katainkent?  Who corraborates the farcical nonsense Beck spews?

No one in the MSM cause they're all librul?  Convenient that it's only the other charlatans that can corraborate each others myths, isn't it?

You obviously can't trust the librul media, cause they won't tell you what you want to hear.  Funny how coincidental that is.

soo...

that's a "no, you haven't". Gotcha.

___________________________________________
"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller" Barack Obama (Dr. In Chief)

Who corraborates the farcical nonsense Beck spews?

Who corroborates the farcical nonsense Beck spews?  

You'll only find corroboration from the Kool Aid drinkers in the right wing blogosphere, radio etc.   Why is that good enough for you? 

Are you one of those believers that say librul media is conspiring to keep the truth from us, only Beck et als tell the truth?  That's very convenient but it defies logic that the rest of the world is so well organized they all conspire to marginalize Beck as a fool.  Maybe the simple fact is that Beck truly is a fool.

 

→ You do 007

If you're calling it "farcical nonsense" maybe you should quote chapter and verse, demolishing its veracity,  rather than make such a claim without proof.

We look forward to your next post where you prove Beck is lying. 

You have made the charge.  Let's see what you've got.

Clock is ticking 007.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

Chapter and Verse Quote: Beck is a Fool

Cool Arrow, Chapter and Verse Quote: Beck is a Fool 
So many issues, so little time.  Beck and Rush are both fools, see the list of my comments below for the demolishing: 

The sheer idiocy of Rush and Beck

August 27, 2009 - 02:30 ET by 007memo

So cute when Facts confuse the Conspiricists

August 28, 2009 - 01:38 ET by 007memo

I am Correct about Rush and Beck, edhenry

August 28, 2009 - 02:25 ET by 007memo

Who introduced Unfairness Doctrine, edhenry?

August 29, 2009 - 13:21 ET by 007memo

Fairness Doctrine is dead

August 29, 2009 - 14:40 ET by 007memo

Non Rebuttal from Edhenry

August 29, 2009 - 23:50 ET by 007memo

 The jokes on you bigtimer

August 30, 2009 - 01:30 ET by 007memo

→ 007

None of your links work.

Not surprising.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

CA... ...plus, does he

CA...

...plus, does he think we really would waste our time clicking them in the first place?

Well, other than you maybe...know what I mean?

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

Bigtimer knows it all

Bigtimer knows it all.  He learned it "all" from Beck and Rush.

In fact he wrote that book, "Everything I've Ever Learned I Learned in Kindergarten, My Teachers Were Beck and Rush", and he hasn't bothered to learn anything since.

So, search 007 memo on this page

So, search 007 memo on this page

It'll take you to each of my comments about the lies that Rush and Beck spew

They create grand scenarios about what might happen,  "You wait and see ladies and gentlemen..., or those grand conspiracies that are actually happenning but that no one else notices but them.

Quickest way to shut down a bigot in 5...4...3...2...1...

  No. Bigot. You hate based on political ideology. You hate based on race. You hate based on wealth. You just hate.

  No. Not gonna read your crap.

  Go back to your KKK site. Maybe they will read your hate.

indeed

I am not going to separate this vitriol from whatever random nugget of fact that might be hiding in there.  And I sure as heck am not going to be your google monkey to see if all your unlinked quotes are accurate.

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"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller" Barack Obama (Dr. In Chief)

Indeed, No Fact Check for Beck and Rush

Katiankent says: "And I sure as heck am not going to be your google monkey to see if all your unlinked quotes are accurate."

Nor, obviously, will you factcheck Beck and Rush.  Are you a Kool Aid drinker?  What happened to Becks' admonishment encouraging you to check his so called "facts"?

What you term my vitriol is my response to Rush and Beck's boldfaced lies and dissembling.  I hate to use a cliche but, "you can't handle the truth". 

BTW, I didn't link to any source outside this page.  I went to the links suggested by your fellow believers that supposedly proved that Beck did not lie about Jeffrey Immelt being on the Federal Reserve - yet both links proved Beck was lying.  Bizarrely, they looked at the facts and concluded the opposite of the truth.

Hmmm, why do Kool Aid drinkers do that?

In fact, the Federal Reserve is governed by four Bush Appointees and one Obama Appointee, none of whom is Immelt.  So, who will you believe, Beck or your lying eyes?  Explain away this big, fat, Beck lie.

And, how do you reconcile Beck's claiming that the capitalists ''capitalist", Jeffrey Immelt, is supposedly a player in Obama's Socialist takeover of America?  That is incredible my friend. 

I also point out that there is no evidence, or facts, supporting the right wing's claims that the Obama administration is bringing back the Fairness Doctrine.  All they offer is fear mongering lies about what the Administration "might" do, which you apparently accept as "facts". 

No legislation about it, no new rules from the FCC, not a single declaration in support of the legislation from Obama, in fact only his statements to the contrary saying he's not going to revisit the Fairness Doctrine.  Nonetheless your leaders blather endlessly about the FD as if it is a real issue.

Now Rush, he contradicts the other charlatans. He says they'll bring back the Fairness Doctrine surreptitiously.  He explains away any need or even possibility to factcheck him by claiming Obama will get it done through the "backdoor".  Ya see, no one is ever gonna know it even happened - so there are no facts to check.

I've asked for a factcheck on this as well; Rush refers to the "100% tax".  And what tax would that be, please tell me.  There has to be thousands of corroborating sources about a "100% tax", so find me one because it's impossible for me to factcheck this doozy.  Prove that Rush isn't lying about a "100% tax".

Then there is another made up "fact" from Rush:  "The stimulus plan - Anybody with a sense of economic literacy would know that this is not how you create jobs. You do not rebuild the private sector." Oh really, Rush? Perhaps those with only a sense or little sense would conclude so, or others like Rush who hope Obama fails, but real Economists conclude the opposite of Rush's big lie.

007memo, refering to your

007memo, refering to your last paragraph, what real economist? Most all, and I mean most all, even CNBC, FOXB, and MSNBC agree that the so called stimulus is working. As a matter of fact, of the 800,000,000,000 dollars alloted, less that 10 percent has been used to stimulate anything of economic value. A case in point would be GM. So far, AFTER the stimulus and the goverment taking over GM, firing the CEO and installing their own, GM workers have given up far more than they would have had GM filed bankrupcey. They closed the Hummer plant, (head bowed, wipe tear from eye) and sold it to the Chinese. The union workers have lost thousands of jobs and not likely to ever see them again. Now how is that saving and building the private sector?

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

WSJ - U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus

From the Wall Street Journal:  U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125185379218478087.html

I assume that conservatives would trust the WSJ as a legitimate source of information.  But, once when I cited the Wall Street Journal to back up an argument I was making to a rather conservative friend, since the facts didn't jibe with his take on the issue, he replied that the WSJ was liberal.

The fringes of the far left and right only believe information that confirms their preconceived notions and beliefs, facts be damned!

Hey rock stupid idiot, yes you, the bigot.

  How stupid are you anyway? Of course pumping money into the economy will help to lift it out of a doldrum. Right stupid?

 The question is, what is the effect when that money has to be paid back. It stretches out the recovery. Making it longer because you are taking money out of the private market just when it needs it most. Right stupid?

  You are not very bright are you? Every single little thing has to be partisan, don't it? You can take some new bit of knowledge, run it through that tiny little grinder of a brain, and compare it against what you have learned and experienced. Then decide if it is good, bad, or more info is needed. Instead, you have to look to some partisan group somewhere to feed you.

  No, you have to come here and try and trap your fellow Americans with whatever false factiod you picked up on moveone or mediamattress or dailykooks or where ever you pick up you lies. 

Oh, why bother. You are stupid and a liar. A deadly combination expecially to pedestrians when you ride your girly bicycle down the street and people throw rocks at you for being such a girlyboy. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

well holy peas and carrots

I very rarely listen to Rush Limbaugh OR Glen Beck so I have to look up these quotes you've pulled out of your hat.  That is why I have to google it if I want to refute it because I am not taking your word for it.  

So, despite my better judgement I did your google footwork and looked up some of this... and I think it would only be fair if you had the first crack at the real and correct quotes.

Rush's 100% tax quote.

Glen Beck's quote on Jeffrey Immelt

From personal observation I see that NBC is pushing Obama bobble head dolls and "Yes We Can" paraphenalia in his company store.   The news pundits on that station are essentially propogandist tools for the Obama administration.  That's enough for me to look at GE and its management with a critical eye.  People would be fools not to. 

The stimulus package will not build the private sector.  Anyone taking Econ 101 can tell you the same thing.  But,  how about something from the conservative bastion of the NYT.

The fairness doctrine will require more google time than I am going to invest in right now.  It's my personal understanding that the fairness doctrine as a piece of legislation is "dead" but that the new FCC Chief Diversity Officer Mark Lloyd wants to redistribute the wealth, so to speak of the private companies into the coffers of public radio.  Among other strangulatory regulations bent on 'equalizing' radio.

specifically : “Federal and regional broadcast operations and local stations should be funded at levels commensurate with or above those spending levels at which commercial operations are funded.  This funding should come from license fees charged to commercial broadcasters. Funding should not come from congressional appropriations. Sponsorship should be prohibited at all public broadcasters"  ; from his book - Prologue to a Farce

Now I admit I have not spent much time on this reply.  But 10 minutes is all I think you deserve.  I have been more focused on healthcare research.  I am not your 'friend' 007 and I have no intention of revisiting this thread to read your hyperbolic and inflammatory commentary.   I can handle the truth just fine.

And personally, I enjoy a glass of fresh lemonade. Have a pleasant afternoon.

 

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"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller" Barack Obama (Dr. In Chief)

Quotes are from this blog, katainkent

Quotes from Rush and Beck are verbatim from the blog post at the top of this page.

As to Rush's 100% Tax lie you see in the above transcripts, you're link proves Rush's lie further.  In your link he says the WSJournal (their opinion) says you'd need a 100% tax on the wealthy to fund Obamas plans.  Above he refers to a plan for "100-percent tax on operating in order to pay public radio".  You can't corroborate that claim anywhere.  There's no such tax, I repeat, it's a lie.

Then your next link simply indicts Beck's even further.  In your link Beck adds more lies when he says: "Immelt has been appointed by president to the board of directors to the New York Federal Reserve"  Lies, Lies, Lies.  Immelt was elected to the Board of the NY Federal Reserve Bank in 2006.  He was not appointed by Obama, no President has any right to appoint members of that Board anyway.  But why ruin a good conspiracy with facts when you can trump one up with lies?

In the blog's transcripts on this page, Beck lies further that "you've got now Jeffrey Immelt on the board of the Federal Reserve".  So it wasn't good enough that Beck lied about Obama appointing Immelt to the NY Fed Bank (which is a private bank), Beck herein lies that Immelt is on the "Board of the Federal Reserve"!   What an idiot.  What a liar.  

I guess it doesn't matter whether he's lying or not because his listeners are completely ignorant of what the Federal Reserve bank is in the first place.  And, as I've stated in my various comments on this page, the Board of the Federal Reserve is made up of 4 Bush appointees and 1 Obama appointee, none of whom is Immelt.

So you say NBC is selling Obama bobbleheads, and how does that compare to Fox selling the bobbleheaded Bush for the last eight years?

Then you link to the NYT criticizing Obama.  Land sakes!  To think that the NYT allows far right conservative economists to regularly voice their opinion in their newspaper.  Sounds actually fair and balanced, not like that Faux fair and balanced stuff.

This particular economist is from the University of Chicago, whose free market ideology is unique unto themselves.  Their philosophy in a nutshell; The free markets caused the meltdown, let the free markets get us out of it.  In other words, do nothing.  That is a recipe for disaster and a minority view among economists.

Your right when you say "Anyone taking Econ 101" will tell you that the stimulus package won't work.  But only if their taking that econ course at the University of Chicago.

Mark Lloyd of the FCC has no authority to do that thing you fear that he'll do to right wing radio.  All you have is the charlatan fearmongers telling you what he might do, that lack of any authority notwithstanding.

In conclusion, you and those of your ilk can't discern fact from fiction.  Beck and Rush clearly lie, but these are lies that reinforce your beliefs so you can't admit to yourselves the obvious.  You come to this site, not to think, but for the comfort of being told what you want to hear. Truth be damned.

And there's millions of others just like you. 

Fascinating stuff.

OK, everyone now begin searching '007memo' on this page...

... then he will fly us around like the Ghost of Christmas Past to visit his "comments about the lies."

I for one am totally excited about this adventure.

007memo, since when did

007memo, since when did research have the arthur opinion as the source? Oh! I remember now. Liberal lies are true! Get a brain moron. Or come up with something real. Not you spouting talking point memos from your side of the isle.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

This has got to be the

This has got to be the most useless Troll we have had in a long time! 

Cool Arrow, Chapter and Verse Quote: Beck is a Fool 
So many issues, so little time.  Beck and Rush are both fools, see the list of my comments below for the demolishing:

And then provides 7 empty links to prove his point! What a moroon!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Take your meds, little memo, your head's about to explode.

You truly don't think you can come to NB and seem completely and utterly insane and irrational and expect anyone to listen to your lunacy, do you?

If you notice, no one is listening.  Go back under your rock.  They are reserving it for you at DKos.  That is all. 

 

"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington

So Beck isn't insane huh?

Insane? What an idiot. 

Beck and Rush clearly lie, but the sheep who believe those charlatans in the face of facts aren't irrational?

I guess you have to be insane to know when Beck and Rush lie.  In your world, insanity is knowing they lie - it's a world you don't want to live in.

 

 

saw this series this week

and am concerned for Beck's health.  Some looney from the left may attempt something stupid. As we saw during the Clintonista's reign, those who opposed them were destroyedor comitted suicide.

His program is honest and he lays the cards on the table that any "honest" journalist should be digging into.

 

Viva' la Beck

Re security

Agreed, hope he has good security. All the folks at Fox News need it, as well as the buildings they work in. The lefties are capable of anything if they see their lifelong goals slipping away.

Beck is an island of sanity in an increasingly gone-crazy country.

Good evening Slick

How right you are. The bombers from the 60s are now government officials.

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

When Glen took a few days off last week, I wondered

if he was moving his family to a safe place - just in case.  Obviously, the fascists are terrified of him and, being the cowards they are, would try to harm his family. 

 

"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington

No One Terrified of Beck

Beck is a laughingstock, especially when he sheds those crocodile tears for the country he...  feels... so... (siniffle, sniffle) deeeeply... a..bout.