If ObamaCare Goes Down in Flames, Will Calls for the Fairness Doctrine Return?

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As each day passes and President Barack Obama's health care proposal faces more and more opposition, some of the talking heads that appear on the cable news networks are looking for a "boogeyman" to blame for allegedly ginning up backlash. And that "boogeyman" has been conservative talk radio.

However, if recent history is any indication, there could be an effort to take silence conservative talk radio.

Some of the circumstances surrounding the current debate on "reforming" health care are eerily familiar to the 2007 bipartisan effort to "reform" immigration. In fact, the last big policy issue that was defeated when an upset constituency pushed back was the bipartisan 2007 effort to reform immigration.

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However, it was thwarted when people flooded the switchboards on Capitol Hill. Some pointed at the power of talk radio to command action from voters, suggesting it was time to look at the Fairness Doctrine again.

Back on June 24, 2007, in the lead up to the ultimate defeat of the Senate's efforts to reform immigration, Chris Wallace, host of  "Fox News Sunday" and Sen. Dianne Feinstein had this exchange [emphasis added]:

WALLACE: But let me ask you about yourself. Do you have a problem with talk radio, and would you consider reviving the Fairness Doctrine, which would require broadcasters to put on opposing points of view?

FEINSTEIN: Well, in my view, talk radio tends to be one-sided. It also tends to be dwelling in hyperbole. It's explosive. It pushes people to, I think, extreme views without a lot of information.

This is a very complicated bill. It's seven titles. Most people don't know what's in this bill. Therefore, to just have one or two things dramatized and taken out of context, such as the word amnesty -- we have a silent amnesty right now, but nobody goes into that. Nobody goes into the flaws of our broken system.

This bill fixes those flaws. Do I think there should be an opportunity on talk radio to present that point of view? Yes, I do, particularly about the critical issues of the day.

WALLACE: So would you revive the Fairness Doctrine?

FEINSTEIN: Well, I'm looking at it, as a matter of fact, Chris, because I think there ought to be an opportunity to present the other side. And unfortunately, talk radio is overwhelmingly one way.

WALLACE: But the argument would be it's the marketplace, and if liberals want to put on their own talk radio, they can put it on. At this point, they don't seem to be able to find much of a market.

FEINSTEIN: Well, apparently, there have been problems. It is growing. But I do believe in fairness. I remember when there was a Fairness Doctrine, and I think there was much more serious correct reporting to people.

More recently, another player in Washington, D.C. has come out voicing concerns about conservative talk radio's position in the current media marketplace. Left-wing Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., went on MSNBC's Aug. 14 "Rachel Maddow" show - as liberal a forum as could be - and complained that the media outlets on the right were drowning the message out.

"I'll tell you what else we need to do," Sanders said. "We need to understand that it is very, very hard for the president or anybody else to take on not just the Republican Party, that's the easy part - to take on all of right-wing talk radio, which covers 90 percent of talk show hosts, a whole Fox network which is nothing more than an arm of the Republican Party and the Democrats got to think long term. Why is there not a progressive television network? Why aren't we supporting good and effective personalities on radio as well and building up a network there so that we can that kind of political consciousness-raising that the Republicans, in fact, are doing so well right now."

Some members of Congress, including Sen. Debbie Stabenow, are still publicly calling for the Fairness Doctrine. And some have done it privately, according to Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla. Inhofe said that then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (now Secretary of State) and Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., had made references to it. But, even though it may have public and private supporters in the U.S. Senate, the Obama administration came out early on opposed to any revival of the Fairness Doctrine, as Fox News reported in February.

"As the president stated during the campaign, he does not believe the Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated," White House spokesman Ben LaBolt told FoxNews.com Feb. 18

However, Brett Joshpe, writing for the June 22 American Spectator, explained the Fairness Doctrine could still be applied to talk radio, but just under another name as stealth effort. He explained that the FCC has been discussing plans for it calls "locally-oriented programming," known as localism, to control content on conservative stations.

"If one thing is clear several months into the Obama presidency, it is that the administration is not afraid to empower bureaucrats at the expense of individuals," Joshpe wrote. "Maybe the Fairness Doctrine has, in fact, been sent to the dustbin of history, but we cannot be so sure about stealth regulations that will have a similar effect. Now more than ever, it is imperative that we carefully ask administration officials what the meaning of ‘is' is." 

Should a defeat of ObamaCare wind up being what Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C. called the president's "Waterloo," it wouldn't take much for a Democratic-controlled Washington, D.C. to take another look at the Fairness Doctrine or some camouflaged version of it.


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These libs are just plain

These libs are just plain moronic.  They've tried everybody from Mario Cuomo to an entire network--"Air America" on the radio, and Gore's Current TV on the tube, but guess what:  NOBODY LISTENS BECAUSE THE SHOWS ARE BOOOOOORING.  Not to mention disingenuous, misleading, and rude.

Here we go again:  what do the libs want?  They already have CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, Current, Air America, and every major city newspaper with a few exceptions (Washington Times, WSJ occasionally).  You want equal time on radio? Get those outlets to grant equal time to the right first.

Edit: and give the right equal time in the classroom, too.

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Maybe. Less than 30% chance though...

Health care, environmentalism (global warming, cooling, change or whatever du jour term they'll come up with next), immigration, taxation, and labor are all rungs of the Wealth Transfer ladder for Progressives. Americans continue to rebuke most of their agenda (labor being their only strength) and yet moderates continue to elect very liberal democrats into office. Educating these moderates should be the major focus for Conservatives; intensively for the next 14 months, with refreshers beyond that. Talk radio would be huge in that effort.

The Fairness Doctrine may gain some steam and may get passed in some form, IF they can get it done before campaigning starts in earnest next year. I think the problem (for Dems) is the great deal of mistrust in anything a Dem proposes, however; and while opposition may not be as strong as it is for Health Care, Congressman and women may not be up for the fight. My guess is they won't get anything passed that seems to infringe on anyone's freedom of speech.

Community Content

The Fairness Doctrine is not coming back. Democratics know a hot potato when they see one. But the alternative, community content tribunals, is already underway. The democratics intend to attack talk radio without the involvement of Congress, and unfortunately they might get away with it. This could be a lesson for all on how a government office like the FCC in the hands of a radical but incompetent like the Bamster can get out of control of the people and walk all over the Constitution.

I agree

The Fairness Doctrine packs a backfire. If the Democrats try to pass the Fairness Doctrine, and the public doesn't go for it, the Democrats will have no more beer to cry into.

It's all academic discussion now...

...but the minute one of these talk shows is taken off the air by government, there's going to be a bigger outcry than Obamacare.

People are waking up. They're learning how this guy operates under the radar and they're watching him much more closely.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

...but the minute one of

...but the minute one of these talk shows is taken off the air by
government, there's going to be a bigger outcry than Obamacare.

But the reason the show is taken off may be obscured.  One of my favorite shows The Scott Wilder Show was taken off the air recently.  It was on a Christian talk radio station 100.7 in the Dallas area.  He was very open about the problems with Obama and was also with Bush and Clinton.

I tend to think it was an action taken in the idea of censuring talk radio.  It was very interesting as Obama supporters were always on and they said some kind of crap about giving him more time or he was put their by God and we shouldnt question Obama.  So some discussions were heated to say the least.  Scott gave the opposition all opportunity to make their case and answered their calls above others.

The person replacing him is not as controversial now but may change in the future.

It does smell just a bit overripe.

Might be worth asking NB to look into it.

Could be a test case of their fallback 'localism' Fairness Doctrine...pick em off, one by one, and see if anyone notices a pattern.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

What a great idea!!

The Fairness Doctrine, now that's a great idea, it puts everybody on the same page. A bipartisan look into the issues of today without the vile. Kinda like we dedate ..you decide. 

 

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kengie, I think you

kengie,

I think you forgot to put a "/sarc off" tag at the end of that.

By the way, "vile" is an adjective, not a noun.

Hydro: right, vile is not a noun...

...and dedate is not even a word.

Oh ..I forgot..

DEBATE...is that better??  I forgot..the party of McVey does not make any mistakes...HA!

Kengie: Who is this McVey you keep referring to?

Is that the bartender at McGillicutty's Pub?

Sloth is one the Seven Deadly Sins, you know. But the good news is Illiteracy is not.

. . . .the party of

. . . .the party of McVey?

Hmmm, guess the D's are the party of:

  • The New Black Panthers
  • The Black Panthers
  • Weather Underground
  • The KKK (yes, they backed Obama, and they were created by the D's, just ask Sen. Robert Byrd)
  • La Raza
  • 89% of convicted murderers
  • ELF

I could go on, but you get the idea.

D

Write Congress and Senate and tell them what YOU think!

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

DFTT Let's not forget

The Weathermen (Isn't one of Obama's buddies the founders of this one? HMMMMMMMMMM)

Poor troll can't get out from under the bridge!

Liberalism: The huanting feeling that someone, somewhere, can help themselves.

the party of mcvey?

this is too much.

I bet kengie doesn't know anything about him beyond being a white guy who set off a bomb.

The party of Mumia hath spoken.

 

Yeah, that white guy McVey from Oklatucky

Not to be confused with that Libertarian guy Tim McVeigh.

The party of 'McVey', did you come up with that yourself?

What a cheap shallow shot.  I grew up in Kansas.  Does that make me a McVey?

You cross a line here that doesn't even resemble the brilliance of the Democrat party.

Please...

Try not to be disrespectful.  Try to emulate Obama and be nice.

ACA

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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)

kengie, "I forgot..the

kengie,

"I forgot..the party of McVey does not make any mistakes...HA!"

See, us grownups call that a "straw man argument". It's an example of what we call a fallacious argument.

You might want to ask your middle school English teacher about it if you aren't getting what I'm talking about.

This coming from a disciple of the party...

...of Ted Kaczynski, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.

You just can't make this stuff up.

(Well, actually you can.  You do.)

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

hydro he's our very new fresh troll

And he is not joking, not one little bit.

Reagan VS Liberalism

upcountrywater, Well, he

upcountrywater,

Well, he better hike his debating skills up a notch or two or he won't last long around here.

Is vile a code word for vitrol?

""extreme bitterness and hatred toward somebody or something, or an expression of this feeling in speech or writing" 

Or am I confused again.  Drat that Tailgunner and his French 'Victories' comment.

ACA

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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)

No not vile!!!

 I meant bile, cause thats all that is here...HA!  

kengie, And I suppose

kengie,

And I suppose you're here to turn that bile into a smile with your stunningly insightful comments.

Oh, and in case you don't know, putting that "...HA!" at the end of your posts makes you come across like a 15 year old.

Slamdunk! Kengie = 50, NBers = 0. HA!

ps: you do know you are not supposed to eat the crayons, right?

Don't you mean Play Dough?

I think that causes this type of constipation.

ACA 

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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)

Crayons? Constipation?

What in hell is he doing with those crayons?

Never mind.

'Don't ask, don't tell'.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Like Obama meant Heath Care Reforem, er ..Doctor Reform, er...

Insurance Reform.

ER...

What about tort reform?  What about fixing Medicaid and Medicare fraud without 'reform'?

Uh...er...uh...um...er...I meant...er...what I mean to say...

er....

uh...

ah...

stutter.

Articulate SOB, ain't he? 

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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)

acaiguana, I'm wondering

acaiguana,

I'm wondering if kengie is Obama in disguise.

The argumentative skills are a dead giveaway.

This guy's too incoherent to be Obama.

Obama would simply cut and paste his teleprompter screen into the post page.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Tailgunner, "coherence is a gift"

.:-))..

Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)

Great slogan there kengie.

MSNBC - "We debase...you deride".

 

Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.

Well, that's the problem.

'A bipartisan look into the issues of today without the vile'.

Here's our problem, pal.

Once you eliminate the 'vile', you're left once again with conservative talk radio.

And if you look into the history of the Fairness Doctrine, you'd find there was no 'talk' radio of any type.

Broadcasters found it much simpler to carry (political) noncontroversial programming like sports or fishing than risk politically motivated complaints to FCC honchos.

'No debate...We've decided'.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Well kengy

Maybe Congress should enact it on itself so we could get some "real" bipartisan crap done.

The Fairness Doctrine is nothing more than socialism at its start.  Silence the dissenter’s voice.

Liberalism: The huanting feeling that someone, somewhere, can help themselves.

"Oh my God, they killed Kengie! Those bastards!"

He vanished?

the problem with DKos talking points

They rarely come with contingency plans.

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

So let me get this straight.  We have a choice.  We can either start supporting the president and his criminal health care plan or we can give up listening to the talk radio we choose to listen to. 

Only a liberal would attempt to punish the citizens of this country who disagree with their cockamamie ideas for making sure we are well-informed and actually come up with our own opinion on very important legislation that would affect every American citizen. 

I listen to talk radio and get out it what I want.  I also read the bills that are presented and I read the opinions of other people and then come up with my own opinion and in my opinion this bill (and many others) stink to high heaven.

 

 

Revolution

If they, the dems in congress, even act like they are going to move on a "fairness doctrine", what happens next in this country will make the current "town hall meetings" look like a ladies aid meeting at churches. They and the state controlled media will not know what hit them.

You talk about burn baby burn. Try this; and it WILL NOT be racial.

 

http://nalert.blogspot.com/2009/07/white-folks-will-riot-pastor-manning.html

Will calls for the Fairness

Will calls for the Fairness Doctrine return?

Of course they will!

After all, those people who are opposed to Obamacare are simply un-American!!  We can't have that stuff being spewed on the airwaves, corrupting our discourse!

Yes

These clowns never stop.

 

But far more likely is if it passes, a repeat of 1994 is in the cards.

To hear Liberal Talk Radio, just go to Sante Fe, NM :-) ACA

Check out this comment.

"Why is there not a progressive television network? Why aren't we supporting good and effective personalities on radio as well and building up a network there so that we can that kind of political consciousness-raising that the Republicans, in fact, are doing so well right now" 

I'll quote Barney Frank here, what planet have you been living on?

I'll not submit the answer due to the family site rules.

ACA 

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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)

Classic

"Why is there not a progressive television network? Why aren't
we supporting good and effective personalities on radio as well and
building up a network there so that we can that kind of political
consciousness-raising that the Republicans, in fact, are doing so well
right now"

A perfect example the kind of downright dishonesty or blatant ignorance of liberals. Such a statement wouldn't pass a smell test in an overused $h!thouse.

Calls to rein in talk radio

Calls to rein in talk radio are going to come no matter what happens with the democrat death plan.

Newspeak - Congress Style

Health Reform that won't reform but destroy any hope of superior, let alone adequate, health care.

Cap and Trade that will do nothing to alter the Earth's climatic changes but will hinder any growth or future for this country.

Recovery Act Funds that will do nothing but drain the economy for generations and fill the pockets of Hussein's and Congress' friends.

Fairness Doctrine that is, but of course, anything but fair.  In fact, it is conceived and will be designed to hinder free speech in America.

This, and other legislation, are the reasons for a breathtakingly swift Congress since this administration took office. The people in power realized that they have TWO YEARS to destroy America.  They cannot afford to get as far as the 2010 election.  ACORN was going to be their stopgap measure in case they needed more time.  But now even that is not assured.  Where are the millions of 'volunteers' Hussein was counting on? Not there.  He had to go to Craig's List to PAY volunteers to muck up the town hall meetings.  He had to PAY SEIU thugs.

We all have to keep the pressure on - just like the Left has throughout Bush's eight years.  USE Alinsky's tactics.  Use any tactic that you can that is legal.  Fight these bastids all the way to the dirt - and then kick it into their eyes.

A great first start would be to IGNORE each and every TROLL.  All of them.  They are nothing but the dung beetles that take out the turds.  The better, paid, ones may even garner your respect.  They shouldn't.  They are the enemy.  They are here to destroy us and our cause.  Shun them.  Play with them and the result will be nothing but irritation.

Of course, that's JMHO.

Dok... Hear, Hear, Amen,

Dok...

Hear, Hear, Amen, I Second that and all that jazz.

...every single word in your spot-on post.

Especially the trolls...it gets old...people leave after a time of the same old endless BS if it continues on ad nauseum in a thread.

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh