"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" That's a saying once bungled by President George W. Bush, to the loud delight of the liberal media. But that same media should keep it in mind as Washington mulls a second round of stimulus spending.
A July 7 Bloomberg story by Shamim Adam reported that Laura Tyson, an economic advisor to the Obama administration, had put forward the notion that the $787 billion approved in February was "a bit too small," and that government should consider a second stimulus package "focusing on infrastructure projects."
Although Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., maintains there is "no showing that a second stimulus is needed," other members, including House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer in a July 7 Politico article, say it shouldn't be taken off the table.
As trial balloons are being floated for a second stimulus, some familiar faces that pushed the first package are making the rounds once again.
Economy Worse Than They Thought?
In a July 5 appearance on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," Vice President Joe Biden may have fired the first salvo in a battle for a second round of stimulus spending when he said the administration had "misread" the economy and he did some second-guessing of the government's policy maneuvering.
"And so, the truth is, there was a misreading of just how bad an economy we inherited," Biden explained "Now, that doesn't, I'm not laying this on anybody - it's now our responsibility. So, the second question becomes, did the economic package we put in place, including the Recovery Act - is it the right package, given the circumstances we're in? And we believe it is the right package, given the circumstances we're in. We misread how bad the economy was, but we are now only about 120 days into the recovery package. The truth of the matter was - no one anticipated, no one expected, that that recovery package would in fact, be in a position at this point, of having to distributed the bulk of the money."
Obama took it a step further in an interview with Fox News on July 7 from Moscow, suggesting a second stimulus hasn't been ruled out.
"I don't take anything off the table when unemployment is close to 10 percent and a lot of Americans are hurting out there," Obama said.
At the same time, Moody's Economy.com chief economist Mark Zandi, who played a prominent role in the media during the previous stimulus debate, has re-emerged, championing more Keynesian economics to push the economy back in a positive direction.
Zandi appeared on CNBC's July 7 "Fast Money" and explained the economy was far worse off than before. He contended that the Democrats' mentions of more stimulus weren't trial balloons, just prudently leaving the options on the table in case things didn't go as forecasted.
"I think trial balloon is too strong of a word," Zandi said. "I think they're nervous. They know everyone else is nervous and they want to let everyone know that they're worried about this. They're thinking about this. They're not out of bullets if things don't go according to how they expect them, they'll come back with something. But I don't think at this point it's trial balloons. They're saying, ‘Hey, we got a forecast and if we don't stick to the forecast we're going to come up with something else.'"
However, the economic consequences proponents warned of, should the $787-billion stimulus be rejected in early 2009, have come true anyway. The unemployment rate hit 9.5 percent, nearly the double-digits some economists warned about. And a sinking consumer confidence number suggests the Obama administration will indeed have to come back with something.
That, according to liberal Nobel Prize winning economist and New York columnist Paul Krugman, is enough reason to go forth with a second stimulus. In his July 3 Times column, he argued jobs data settled the matter, chastised the GOP for opposing more spending, and offered advice for the Obama administration.
"What I don't know is whether the administration has faced up to the inadequacy of what it has done so far," Krugman wrote. "So here's my message to the president: You need to get both your economic team and your political people working on additional stimulus, now. Because if you don't, you'll soon be facing your own personal 1937."
And that was the sort of rhetoric being doled out by policymakers and media voices during the first stimulus debate. A Business & Media Institute study showed two networks, ABC and NBC showed particularly strong support for the president by relying on pro-stimulus voices by a more-than 2-to-1 ratio.
Remember Stimulus, Part I?
Flashback to Feb. 9, 2009 - It was President Barack Obama's 15th day in office and he used the bully pulpit by penning an op-ed that appeared in The Washington Post adamant about the passage of the first round of stimulus.
"What Americans expect from Washington is action that matches the urgency they feel in their daily lives - action that's swift, bold and wise enough for us to climb out of this crisis," Obama wrote. "Because each day we wait to begin the work of turning our economy around, more people lose their jobs, their savings and their homes. And if nothing is done, this recession might linger for years. Our economy will lose 5 million more jobs. Unemployment will approach double digits. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse."
Lucky for the president, he wasn't alone in promoting the need for the stimulus. The media echoed his warnings of the economic Armageddon if the stimulus bill failed to pass promptly. MSNBC's Contessa Brewer sounded the alarm in a Feb. 6 interview with Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo.
"But if it fails, if it fails and our economy implodes and we see ourselves stuffing cardboard back in our shoes like they did in the Depression era, are you willing to put your name behind that?" Brewer asked.
And Brewer's colleague, MSNBC host and liberal talk show host Rachel Maddow called GOP arguments against the stimulus "bullpuckey" on her Feb. 6 program. The stimulus, she said, would create a demand for "stuff" that would get the economy back on track.
"You know, I hate to be the one to call bullpuckey here, but bullpuckey," Maddow said. "We're in this economic crisis because people aren't buying enough stuff. There's supply but there's no demand. People aren't buying. Every job that gets lost, every day a job is lost, means that someone's got even less money to buy stuff, which means that less stuff gets bought, which is worse for business, which begets more unemployment. This is something that snowballs. The timing does matter. There is urgency. There is actually, literally, scientifically, economically, a big need to hurry. It's not a matter of perception. It's the truth."
But, for all their campaigning and vivid depression-era imagery, the stimulus they sold to the public hasn't born fruit.
Fail: Government Spending as Efficient Stimulus
Whether it's the post office or the state DMV, big government bureaucracies are notorious for not operating at an efficient pace. And the same is being proven true with the original stimulus.
Despite the immediate knee-jerk cash-dump the left campaigned for and got, the money is slow to help the economy. According to the Congressional Budget Office, only about a tenth of the money has been spent so far, and only about half of it will have been spent by October 2010.
The mainstream media are beginning to notice.
A July 2 ABC "World News" segment reported the stimulus wasn't all it was advertised, as unemployment figures released by the Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics caused a ripple throughout the financial markets.
"Today, the government reported another 467,000 jobs lost in June, taking unemployment to 9.5 percent, and that's the highest level in more than a quarter century," "World News" anchor Charles Gibson said. "The stock market fell as a result. The Dow Industrials and the NASDAQ each lost more than 2.5 percent. The rising unemployment raises questions about the economic stimulus, which was supposed to create jobs."
And the inefficiency of the first stimulus is something CNBC's John Harwood noted when he suggested perhaps tax cuts might have been a more effective way to tackle the economic malaise.
"Well, I think they're hoping that this summer period is when they can in fact ramp up the spending," Harwood said on CNBC's July 6 "Squawk Box." "It's not easy to spend the amount of money that they appropriated, $800 billion, that quickly."
The solution to get it "out the door" might have been tax cuts - to stimulate the economy in a timelier manner.
"Can they be faulted for not getting more money out the door earlier?" Harwood said. "Certainly if you think tax cuts were the best option, you could have gotten more of that money out quicker."
However, Harwood explained now is the make-or-break time for the $787-billion stimulus bill that passed through the House and Senate with only three Republican votes (one of which, Sen. Arlen Specter, Pa., switched parties after the vote).
"They have an argument that direct government spending is more stimulative," Harwood said. "The summer months, when you got prime, sort of construction season is when they're hoping to get more of it out. So now is their time to prove themselves."
The question remains: If Obama's economic team and policies fail to prove themselves, will the media report it honestly? And if they do fail, will the media help him sell a second round of failure?




















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This is what they think
July 8, 2009 - 14:50 ET by Ankharanof the American people. Zero, ziltch, none, nadda respect. I hope they do pass it. I hope it passes without a hitch. It will do one thing for certain. The elections will be VERY different in 2010. A lot of people are already pissed. Pass another one of these things and see how many of those so called stewards of our country and our money stay in office.
This, is the BEST thing for any other party besides democrat. I say... let em pass it. Besides... I'll be long dead before I have to pay any of it back.
Amen, Amen, and Amen. Do
July 8, 2009 - 15:22 ET by bigtimerAmen, Amen, and Amen.
Do they never learn?
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
WHAT GOOD R ECONOMISTS?
July 10, 2009 - 13:09 ET by reelman46WHAT GOOD ARE ECONOMISTS?
Samuelson: Economists Missed the Financial Crisis July 10.2009
Sooo after the democrat congress allowed millions of (year after
year) subprime mortgages to be written (diversity/reverse
discrimination bites back) for people (millions illegal!) who could
never qualify traditionally, the congress allowed over 12 million
illegals to milk America for fuel-social services, the congress passed
major overspending bills for years, the democrats (secular socialists)
gained power,
the new strident socialist president (he had a record) told voters for
a year of his “redistribution-sharing plans”, our congress continued
hiring (78,000 new gov-meant employees in 2009), the congress started
meddling in big business, the congress defended Fannie-Freddie
corruption, the congress made it plain high incomers were going to be
hammered, the congress said harsh new eco-business laws were coming,
the congress 4x the national debt, the congress borrowed a trillion to
buy votes and called it a Stimulus and so on and so on…economists
missed all that?
How blind, deaf and dumb to political impacts can modern American economists be?
Are these the same “experts” who are always “surprised”?
How is it about 80% of the time any jobs or inflation or whatever major stat appears….
you read “unexpected”, “above”, “more”, “below” and such?
Why is it the voices of conservatives screaming about the
implications-reality of strident socialist policies are ignored…as in
the days of Jimmah Carter? I will tell you. Its because liberals never
ever accept the facts, the economic laws, human nature, the experience
of other countries and simple history.
Economists and younger voters fall for the old democrat socialist Oz
land policy speeches that failed before and will fail again.
Now the push for nationalized health care by a congress that cannot
reform or refuses to reform (in 40 years) the
fraud-efficiency-stupidity of Medicare. Go figure that.
How many huge federal programs must fail (and spend 3-7x whatever the “selling price” was) does it take?
The next natural historic democrat phase (as I mentioned all of 2009)
will be the TAX U phase. They always spend us into deep debt then
hammer our wallets to pay later. The gov-meant keeps hiring while the
socialist Party keeps promising, keeps lying, keeps blame shifting and
keeps taxing
J. Carter Obama is back. Plan accordingly.
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
Gee
July 8, 2009 - 15:02 ET by StarAZWho remembers that the last "stimlus" was a junkpile of legislative promises and wishes flopped out at the last minute--if it created some jobs, great,--just pass it. The 3 million jobs promised? Well, tut tut, didn't you notice some teachers and cops did not get fired--of course, some did...well, move along, nothing to see here.
America = California very soon
July 8, 2009 - 15:09 ET by iveseenitallAnother "stimulus", Cap and Tax, Healthcare for all Americans. Oh, and be sure to cut our defense money while you are at it. You can use it to pay for all the illegals when they get here. But the government of Barry, by Barry, for Barry shall perish from the earth sooner or later. In the meantime, our "representatives" will remain hell bent on doing us in. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
I'm confused,
July 8, 2009 - 15:09 ET by UpNorthdidn't Obama and his boy blunder V.P. tell us, during the campaign, that we had the worst economy since the Depression? How in the world can you "misjudge the worst economy" ever?
Does anyone, anyone at all, think that Laura Tyson floated this trial balloon on her own? Obama's economic advisor floating an idea without some approval from on high? I doubt it, I don't think anyone in this administration does anything without approval from a czar, commissar or president.
Now then, one can argue....
July 8, 2009 - 15:54 ET by Prester John....that even with the current mess in the financial sector, Reagan inherited something just as bad in 1981.
10-12% inflation, 20% interest rates, oh, and let's not forget Iran and an agressive Soviet Union to deal with.
I don't recall a whole lot of whining by Reagan as he dealt with the economic mess he "inherited", the need to rebuild the US military, all while trying to work with a Democratic Congress (what ever happened to the Scoop Jackson/Sam Nunn wing of the Democratic Party?).
Now it took big tax cuts and big defense spending, not to mention about 18-24 months to get things moving again, but when they started moving they took off.
This administration is nothing but a bunch of quiche-eating, Ivy League weanies.
Living in the mythic past
July 9, 2009 - 07:35 ET by Scott from anywhereHi John. I think Reagan was judged as a great president fairly by historians. I don't think however most people understand that when he came in stocks were extremely devalued and a huge Wall Street run up was inevitable. Stocks today were no where near as trashed as they were at the start of his presidency which helped lead to the three or four boom years of the eighties. Now the stimulus package has been passed and is the only thing that stopped Wall street's plummet that would have helped a real recovery. Stocks are again overvalued or at least don't have much room to climb to realistic proportions. On top of that we're carrying a huge national debt that has been huge for the last 25 years. I'm a young guy, what hope do I have to benefit from social security or medicare, which are half the federal budget? None. Yet I get to pay for that now for the continuation of outdated socialist programs. The country is already half socialist and we fight over the other half of the budget. The older generations had already saddled my generation with insurmountable debt like a municipal bond issue before Obima was ever elected. I say shame on you older generation. And now there's more talk that we should just cut taxes but not cut social secuity or medicare payouts. Old conservatives want their cake and to eat it to. Well I'm sick and tired of having to pay for your splendor at my expense. I'm sick of the old let the next generation pay for it. This whole economy is like putting levies on the mighty MS and sooner or later they will give.
Socially Liberal
Fiscally peed off and was always against stimulus.
I don't see why
July 8, 2009 - 15:11 ET by MidAmericaI don't see why congress even goes through the motions of 'passing' legislation when the bills consist of so many pages nobody reads them and parts are left blank to be filled in later. We might as well send congress home and let obama just rule by decree. That's what he wants anyway.
2nd stimulus
July 8, 2009 - 15:18 ET by jdlybrandIs there any doubt in anyone's mind that we are being led down the path of bankruptcy by the most incompetant group of fools to ever come down the pike? There is no word in the dictionary to describe their stupidity.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Porkulus #1 Went to State Bailouts
July 8, 2009 - 15:59 ET by slickwillie200190% of Stimulus Funds Spent on Bailouts for State Governments: http://corner.nationalreview.com
"James Pethokoukis links to a GAO report that surveyed 16 states and the District of Columbia to see how stimulus funds are being spent. The study found that 90 percent of the stimulus funds spent so far have gone toward bailouts for fiscally irresponsible state governments."
I no longer have any confidence that our money will go to what a Congressional Bill says it will. They get the money and then do whatever they want with it. The same thing is happening with TARP.
Economic Malpractice
July 8, 2009 - 15:27 ET by Chris NormanBiden and Obama didn't misjudge the economy, they misjudged the prescription to stimulate it. Apparently, neither one of the geniuses realized that a toilet bowl full of pay offs to their constituent groups and the fulfillment of twenty five years of liberal wishes wouldn't stimulate anything except maybe corruption.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Failure
July 8, 2009 - 15:28 ET by iveseenitallIt's a "liberal" mantra----"If at first you fail---fail,fail again". Look at our educational system and our government. PUKE!
NEVER,NEVER truat a "liberal"
Mantra
July 8, 2009 - 15:36 ET by jdlybrandMedicare broken, Social Security broken, Education system broken, Financial system broken, Infrastructure system falling apart.... Hey, I have an idea; let 'em do Health Care reform.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Roaches
July 8, 2009 - 15:45 ET by iveseenitallI, myself, watched the idiots in education for decades. "Liberals" are like roaches---get rid of one and hundreds more appear. Short of institutionalizing all "liberals", they can't be stopped. Then again, we already have"institutionalized" most of them in education and government. "Liberalism" truly is an emotional and mental disease. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
When will they listen to the people?
July 8, 2009 - 17:52 ET by teeaa01I've been to 2 tea parties, I regularly call and e mail not only my elected representatives but representatives from other districts/states and let them know in no uncertain terms what I feel they should be doing/voting. I really try ro make a difference within the framework of being a responsible citizen. I still get the feeling that no one is listening (especially since the 8 Cap and Traitors fiasco). I've come to the conclusion that there is only 1 non violent solution left. NATIONAL STRIKE! Don't go to work for a week! Shut down the country, maybe they'll listen. This mnay sound a bit extreme, but look atr what the alternative is!
What it 'is' is,
July 8, 2009 - 21:47 ET by sic721The so-called 'stimulus' was NEVER about the economy, jobs, infrastructure, or anything else they claimed. It was nothing more than "thank you cards" and future 'grease'. Notice how most of the money is 'earmarked' for 2010 and 2012? This was NOT an economic stimulus bill, but a VOTE-ulus bill. They put their chips on the economy taking care of itself and nobody noticing and now it's blown up in their faces.. Chit, meet fan.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher
sic... Yep...and it's
July 8, 2009 - 21:51 ET by bigtimersic...
Yep...and it's here we go again merry-go-round in congress with another Strangulation Bill...I'm not so sure this one will sail thru at all...especially with our voices melting the lines in DC.
Anybody hear my gal Michele Bachmann tonight on Hannity.
She said it all...catch her there when you can if interested and like her as much as I always have.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
The mantras of fools
July 9, 2009 - 00:14 ET by Cortillaen"It didn't work the first time because we didn't go far enough."
"Failure the first time is proof that we need to do it again."
"Critics fixating on the past can't see that it'll work this time."
*sigh*
More of my thoughts
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." - Miyamoto Musashi
→ Cort
July 9, 2009 - 00:17 ET by Cool ArrowTrotting out the failed policies of the recent past.
bad economy inherited
July 9, 2009 - 07:24 ET by m1xramThis roughly translates to.. "We made it much worse so we could say we inherited more." Which leads to the logical conclusion.. "We will make it so horrible that you will not believe how much we inherited."
The other angle is good too.. "We said we had it all figured out but it turns out we f*ck*d up. We will implement more bogus spending until the economy is completely destroyed. That's the goal. Did I say that aloud?"
He has already failed... his country.