The food police are at it again telling us what and how to eat. This time, they're attacking the restaurant industry under the premise the general public is too ignorant to determine what is healthy and what isn't.
On May 11, both the "NBC Nightly News" and ABC's "World News with Charles Gibson" aired stories about the left-wing Center for Science in the Public Interest's (CSPI) new study, "Heart Attack Entrées with Side Orders of Stroke." CSPI's argument? The public is too naïve to determine high-sodium content dishes, so the government must step in and regulate in the name of saving government money in health costs.
"A well-known health group is out with a new warning about America's most popular chain restaurants saying many of their meals have dangerous amounts of salt," "World News" anchor Charles Gibson said. "The Center for Science in the Public Interest checked 102 meals and found 85 of them had more than a day's worth of sodium."
According to CSPI executive director and spokesman Michael Jacobson, salt is the most dangerous ingredient in the food supply. Jacobson put part of the blame for that on restaurants during the ABC segment. ABC and NBC both singled out the Red Lobster, Chili's and Olive Garden chains in their segments - as spelled out in the press release for the CSPI study.
"As Americans think more about watching their weight, tonight one group suggests watching the salt, especially when eating out," NBC correspondent Rehema Ellis said. "In a study released today, the Center for Science in the Public Interest, an advocacy group says, of 17 restaurant chains they looked at Chili's, Olive Garden and [Red Lobster] - are three big offenders, serving meals loaded with sodium."
ABC correspondent John McKenzie demonstrated how much salt was actually in meal, shaking the salt over and over onto his plate and claimed it would take a "half-a-minute' to equal the amount of salt in one of the restaurant dishes he'd mentioned.
"Eating too much salt causes the walls of blood vessels, even the heart itself to gradually thicken," McKenzie said. "But for some people even one salty meal can be dangerous."
McKenzie suggested more labeling on menus to warn people of the salt content would appropriate, because otherwise "few people have any idea how much salt awaits them in that next restaurant meal."
The NBC report, which included video of ambulances to suggest salt is truly dangerous, proposed government regulation.
"Tonight, the Center for Science in the Public Interest is pushing for the federal government to take control and limit sodium content in processed food and restaurant meals," Ellis said.
CSPI has been campaigning against salt since 1978. The group has warned about the dangers of dozens of foods in past years including water, milk, bread, eggs and many others in addition to pushing a pro-regulation and taxation agenda.
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High in salt soups
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 09:42 ET by sevenwe had a home made casserole the other day that tasted salty. since we added no salt, the culprit was traced back to cambells soup. canned soup is loadded with salt and they just don't get it. It is like they don't think people are capable of using a salt shaker.
Re soups
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:16 ET by slickwillie2001Yes, most soups are horribly salty. Salt is used in a lot of products as a substitute for flavor. I have had bags of taco chips that were so salty I couldn't finish them. You can also pick up salt if you use storebought broth, boullion, or soy sauce. Convenience foods also have loads of MSG as a flavor enhancer, which is another source of sodium.
Soup Companies Do Indeed Get It
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 17:05 ET by Kingfish17Twenty years ago you may have been able to say that soup companies "didn't get it" when it comes to having to much salt in their soup. But today, it's easy to buy a lower sodium product. They are no longer in a special section of the store. Lower sodium soups are right next to the "regular" kind.
If the lower sodium soups are still to high in sodium, then you might have to go to the health food section of the supermarket.
I am a big fan
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 17:13 ET by katainkentof low sodium organic chicken/beef soup stock. Not that I vest that much in the 'organic' label but - fifteen years ago the shelves didn't have NEAR this kind of selection. Choices like these continue to show capitalism works.
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From the report: But for
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 09:47 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsFrom the report: But for some, particularly the elderly, consuming 4,000 mg or more of sodium in a single meal can present an immediate risk of heart failure
or other serious problems.
So how many dozens or hundreds of people have these meals, millions of which have been served, killed, immediately after eating? Not one, if you look at the report. Not a single example.
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Right, DFTT. I must have
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:45 ET by ThisnThatRight, DFTT. I must have missed the report showing that the average age in the U.S. has declined since Red Lobster came into existance. But facts don't mean anything to libs -- only the statistics that they can manipulate and turn into lies mean anything to them.
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DFTT
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 14:23 ET by well99I wonder how many federal grants paid for that report?
Just a note:Did you see this?
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/231905-Jon_Stewart_to_Make_History_Special.php
Want to bet how that leans.
There ya go.
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 09:54 ET by JWFso the government must step in and regulate in the name of saving government money in health costs
This is another reason to reject national health care. If the government has to pay for your health care, they now have a right to decide what is detrimental to your health - tobacco, alcohol, what you eat, or drink, or wear (remember mom? you'll catch a cold if you go out like that) , or where you go (TB risks), or live (mosquito born diseases - so long florida), or see (say that woman carries significant STD risks), or drive (25mph is the safest speed) or keep as a pet (allergies cost money)
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
The
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 10:58 ET by jessieHThe MSM is trying to feed US more crap. Sorry MSM, not without salt.
The big bad government wants
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:10 ET by JesseJacksonIVThe big bad government wants it's citizens to eat healthier? How dare they do that.
Most people probably don't realize how much salt they're getting in their diets when they go out to eat. All restaurants should have labels showing how much fat, sodium etc. is in their foods.
more spending and regulation - no thanks
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:19 ET by AgnosticThe government has already spent too much money to find out that too much salt is not good for you. Now they are going to spend more money to set up programs, more studies and health alerts to make sure that everyone knows too much salt is bad for you.
Then start the regulations and spend more money and create more non-income related expenses for companies and help cripple the economy. All because a group of politicians think you are too stupid to realize that too much salt is bad for you.
Did you really not know that too much salt is bad for you and that you may be getting it from many sources?
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The fact that many Americans
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:30 ET by JesseJacksonIVThe fact that many Americans continue to eat processed foods loaded with salt shows that they must not know.
At least at home you can read a label. If you go out to eat and get soup, salad and then a main course with processed foods folks may not realize how much salt they are really getting. Put a nutritional label on the menus so people can know what they eating.
Hey, moron. If you're not
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:34 ET by fitzfongHey, moron. If you're not satisfied with the food that's served at restaurants, stop eating out. It's none of your business (nor is it the government's) what and where others choose to eat.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Ok, so let's remove all the
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:46 ET by JesseJacksonIVOk, so let's remove all the nutritional labels from all the foods in the store. Let people eat whatever they want. Let them get obese and die from heart disease or cancer or diabetes before they're 40.
Go ahead, eat those trans fats and sodium.
~That'll sure thin the stupid and gluttonous
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:49 ET by choselife3xOut of the gene pool. Best idea you've expressed here. Keep it up and pass the chips.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Hey there, nanny-grog. I
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:57 ET by ThisnThatHey there, nanny-grog. I didn't see your post before I wrote mine about the cave-man below. Way to go -- proves my point. tap-tap-tap-tap
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
Or better yet, we could go
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 12:03 ET by fitzfongOr better yet, we could go your way. Why stop at the government forcing restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus? Let's go all the way! Let's have the government force abortion clinics to show pregnant teenagers graphic information about the risks of pregnancy termination before they're allowed to have the procedure performed! Let's have the government force "documentarians" like Morgan Spurlock to reveal their rabid vegan socialist agendas before viewers are permitted to watch their films! Let's have the government force a candidate to produce an accurate American birth certificate and college transcripts before he is allowed to assume the Presidency!
Get something straight, the government does not have the power to save people from themselves. Your suggestion that it somehow does simply illustrates that you're not only arrogant, but completely ignorant, as well.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Sounds good to me
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:23 ET by CobraMan"Ok, so let's remove all the nutritional labels from all the foods in the store. Let people eat whatever they want."
That sounds good to me. That's what we USED to do before government become our lords and masters of the dinner table. Despite this lack of government oversight, people, for thousands of years, ate what they wanted to eat and the vast majority of them lived to ripe old ages. That's how ancient man developed the concept of ELDERS. You see, those elders didn't die in their 40's and 50's, they died in their 60 and 70's, just like they do today. That's WHY they were called Elders.
Contrary to your mistaken beliefs, Mankind didn't suffer short lives due to their diets, diets that included vast amounts of salt as salt was the primary means of food preservation throughout most of our history. It was a lack of proper hygiene that lead to the high mortality rates, especially amongst children. Look at the Romans for a good example, the majority of Romans, thanks to their high standards of hygiene, lived until their 60's and 70's, DESPITE the addition of salt in their diets, salt which they traded for with other people, trade which existed for thousands of years prior to the founding of the Roman empire.
So, Jesse, how do you explain the fact that most civilizations had, and still have, populations that lived into their 60's and 70's without having the government telling them what is good for them to eat? That, despite the food choice imitations our government is trying to impose on it's population, those people lived full lives eating what they wanted, when they wanted, without any apparent ill effects to themselves and their societies?
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CobraMan, Great post, we won't see troll boy's comment to that.
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:55 ET by upcountrywaterIf we do it will be Left field.. way over the foul line.
Reagan VS Carter and 0bama
here's a little hint
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 14:12 ET by candanceMaybe people are so stupid because of failing government schools, a media that presents coloring books as complex plotlines, and welfare programs that reward people for their stupid lifestyles. Maybe it's because our president thinks we're so stupid he has to TELL us to wash our own hands to prevent the spread of swine flu.
Since we'll all be getting free government healthcare with free government welfare checks, why should people care about their bodies now? Surely there's some miracle pill we can take to make it all go away. Yes we can! Yes we can!
Meanwhile JJ here feels the need to equate government control of restaurants to gay marriage. Newsflash: the gay marriage agenda had nothing to do with gay freedom and everything to do with telling churches what to do. Kinda like telling restaurants what to do. And kinda like telling GM what to do.
Keep it up JJ, and soon Americans will be so stupid they'll need a government official to hold their hands when they go potty.
Hay, Jesse, has it occured to you...
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 14:39 ET by CobraMan"The fact that many Americans continue to eat processed foods loaded with salt shows that they must not know."
Hay, Jesse, has it occurred to you that people eat processed foods because it is the easiest, healthiest, food available to the vast majority of people? The processing of food is what feeds the majority of people in America. Since our population is living longer and longer lives with the addition of processed foods in their diets, how is processed food to blame for NOT dying an early death??
It seems to me that, just a few generations ago, most people prepared their foods at home from RAW beef and vegetables, and the vast majority of those people were dying at the ages that you accuse the processed foods of killing people, in their 50's and 60's, instead of the 70's and 80's which is prevalent today.. Well, Jesse, if those people DIDN'T eat those processed food, what's to to blame for their early deaths?
The fact is, your poor arguments to the contrary, processed foods have EXTENDED our life spans despite their high salt content. But you'll never admit that, will you?
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So I've been told.
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 12:44 ET by CobraMan"Did you really not know that too much salt is bad for you and that you may be getting it from many sources?"
You may not be aware of this, but people have been told this for decades! What YOUR complaining about is that people may CHOOSE to add salt to their dishes and that restaurant ADD salt to their food, which is what mankind has been doing ever since civilization has existed.
Do you realize that, despite thousands of years of the practice of the adding salt to our diet, mankind has not only survived, we've flourished? How can this be, if salt is as deadly as you imply? I mean, really, we used to persevere our food in salt! How did we survive with all that additional salt in our diet, if it's SO deadly? Care to answer that nagging little fact?
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Salt
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 19:54 ET by CiampinoI have never seen a real piece of research on salt intake and human health. It's all hearsay, just like the 'drink 8 glasses of water a day' which has been debunked. In fact the body does NOT accumulate salt but excretes it in the urine (mainly) as well as in sweat. That's why if one eats too much salt then one becomes thirsty - the body's way of getting enough water to remove the salt in the urine. Regardless of salt intake, blood sodium analysis is always within normal limits except in people with kidney and adrenal gland problems.
Also it's 'healthful' foods not' healthy' foods. Can foods be 'sick'?
Granted salt is not a deadly
Wed, 05/13/2009 - 07:30 ET by AgnosticGranted salt is not a deadly killer as expressed in the media or even by the AMA at one time. But even the studies that debunk the myths of the evils of salt preach moderation. Too much of anything can be bad for you. However, the scare tactics used by the social engineers of the left are far more dangerous.
Also, brined food was generally not always rinsed and/or soaked to remove as much of the salt as necessary to aquire the proper flavor. Still a lot of salt but I have no idea how it would compare to a can of soup today.
A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections
It's a matter of the taste
Wed, 05/13/2009 - 07:37 ET by motherbeltIt's a matter of the taste that's developed. Canned and processed foods are loaded with salt, so we learn to tolerate and not notice it.
My husband requires a salt-restricted diet, and so I have changed the way I cook. I use fresh or frozen vegetables. One day I opened a can of carrots as a last-minute thing for supper, and they tasted so salty we couldn't even eat them, and I ended up throwing them away!
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
Michael Jacobson is one of
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:31 ET by fitzfongMichael Jacobson is one of the most arrogant, miserable pieces of human debris in world. He is a self-important pinko killjoy who actually thinks he's better equipped to raise others' children than the parents are. What's worse is that when given a forum, he becomes a parasite...something that we, especially during these economic times, must not tolerate.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
It's a good thing none of
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:53 ET by ThisnThatIt's a good thing none of these nannys were around during cave-man days, or we'd never would have left the stone age.
"Hey grog", tap-tap-tap-tap. "Whatcha doing?"
Tap-tap-tap-tap -- "I'm inventing a spear". tap-tap-tap-tap
"What for?" tap-tap-tap-tap
"To hunt and kill me some whooly mamouths -- so I can start wearing clothes and get some meat to eat." tap-tap-tap-tap "And I think I can now catch up to them, because of this fine wheel I invented yesterday." tap-tap-tap-tap
Uh-oh, here comes nanny-grogess: "Don't drive that wheel, Grog, it's too dangerous. And you can't eat red meat -- it's bad for you Grog. Eating that mammoth will cut two years off your life -- you'll be dead by the time you're 25. Put away all those thoughts, and come here and gather some more berries for us; live a healthy, safe life for once."
tap-tap-tap-taptap-tap-tap-taptap-tap-tap-taptap-tap-tap-taptap-tap-tap-taptap-tap-tap-taptap-tap-tap-taptap-tap-tap-tap
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
If you are that concerned
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:54 ET by freecitizenIf you are that concerned about the specific content of your food, then you should prepare your own. Is it a great surprise that chain restaurants don't have the highest quality food? Or that fast food is unhealthy? If you have sodium concerns, look for "low sodium" choices. You shouldn't expect all things to be catered specifically to you. Some foods have a lot of salt because salt TASTES GOOD! What's next, that the desserts have too much sugar?
Liberal: remove all that's Right, and this is what's Left.
Here's a thought...
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 11:54 ET by Mike SargentIt is possible that the general public...just wants their food to taste good when they eat out.
Besides, who is to say that if people buy overpriced food for a night out, that they won't (or don't already) prepare similar food at home? Should we, for THE GREATER GOOD, invade their kitchens?
Hell's Kitchen would be ever so much more interesting...Headline the next day:
GORDON RAMSAY KILLS FIVE FEDS WITH MEAT CLEAVER!!!
According to all the
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 12:01 ET by ThisnThatAccording to all the bru-ha-ha here, Gordon won't need a meat cleaver. Just the smell (or even thought) of his home cooking should be enough for the dirty deed.
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
more power to the nanny state
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 12:39 ET by katainkentwhen the calorie/fat/sodium content was posted on menus in restaurants - people, for the most part, ignored it. So now in the interest of saving us, the call is to take a more controlling hand in our lives and regulate. Save us from ourselves. With any luck, our lawmakers are too busy to listen to more of these ridiculous ideas. Unfortunately, all it seems to take these days is one bored and underappreciated representative.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
Since when was any
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 12:42 ET by fitzfongSince when was any representative underappreciated?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
haha
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 12:53 ET by katainkentsorry I should have had a /sarc tag in there :)
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
Speaking of
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:17 ET by fitzfongSpeaking of "underappreciated" representatives, get a load of this...
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
bahahaha...
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:20 ET by katainkentI was thinking of Specter's whining but this is priceless.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
So if the government should
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 12:43 ET by JesseJacksonIVSo if the government should not be telling us what we can eat, I guess it should not be telling us that two consenting adults are not allowed to marry.
I would rather the government be involved in trying to get us to eat better, than what two people who love want to do.
I didn't know red herring
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 12:52 ET by fitzfongI didn't know red herring was one of your favorite menu choices. The correct answer is that government should not be involved in either. As it turns out, it was the people of California, not the government, who made the determination on gay marriage. Whether you're in favor of gay marriage or not, and I'm in favor of it, the government is not telling us that two consenting adults are not allowed to marry. If the courts determined that gay marriage was illegal...against the will of the people, that would be a different story.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
At least
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:19 ET by StarAZAt least red herring is loaded with Omega 3 and Omega 6--the nannies would be in heaven.
True, but what about the
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:31 ET by fitzfongTrue, but what about the fat and sodium? :-)
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
You're missing the point, Poindexter
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:00 ET by Trix RabbitHow would government mandates change how people eat? How would the government enforce these mandates?
Next time you are in a store take a gander of how many obese people are buying sugar/fat ladened food for their equally obese kids. Just remember: carbs are cheap.
Bottom line, Poindexter: you of all people should know that you can't legislate the cure for ignorance.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
People should be informed
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:17 ET by JesseJacksonIVPeople should be informed about the food they eat, including in restaurants. Then make up their own mind.
They ARE informed!
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:30 ET by CobraManPeople ARE informed about the foods they eat. You make it sound as if people don't know what they're eating. What makes you think that? YOU know what's in the foods restaurants prepare, correct? What make you so special that you're aware of things other people don't apparently know?
The fact is, people ARE aware of the food they're eating. You just don't like the idea that they're CHOOSING to eat the kinds of foods and ingredients YOU don't approve of.
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oh my gosh what is that salty flavor
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:31 ET by katainkentcould it be.... salt?
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
Betty Corcker lied!
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:57 ET by CobraManI guess Jesse thinks that Americans are so stupid that we can't read a cookbook. Betty Crocker lied! Her cookbook is propaganda! The ingredients, and the amount of each needed, listing in those cookbooks are all lies! That really IS an ally cat in your chow mein! Meow Mix, indeed!
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This is what markets are
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:36 ET by fitzfongThis is what markets are for, genius. A restaurant can seize on consumer demand for healthier food and gain a competitive advantage by producing good tasting food that meets that demand. For example, Subway has created a valuable niche by voluntarily producing the nutritional information and comparing itself favorably to other fast food establishments. Other chain restaurants have developed "lighter fare" menus and advertised the menus to attract customers. Single unit and/or local stores and restaurants have also succeeded by addressing that market segment. How many holes do you need poked in your ignorant, big government nanny state position before you accept your beating and walk away with some semblance of dignity?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Bad Fitz!
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:43 ET by BlondeLiberals prefr the nanny state solution....remember, capitalism is now officially evil, so says the Messiah.
I hope he fails, too.
Strike two, Poindexter
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 14:32 ET by Trix RabbitYou have yet to answer the question of how a government agency can inform our citizens and then carry out the execution of government-mandated mastication.
It doesn't take an Einstein to know that any mom and pop Mexican restaurant uses lard in the refried beans, nachos fried in oil, salsa laden with salt, and fatty cheese.
My family and I can form our own opinions of what, where, and when we eat. You obviously think the average American is too stupid to use his/her own volition.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
You don't eat your mate.
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:01 ET by CobraManThat argument is called a non-sequitur. You see, we don't EAT the people we marry. So that argument is disingenuous at best
Who makes the determination as to what constitute better eating habits? Shall we let a tribe in some Borneo jungle make that determination and all add grubs to our diet, just like they do? How about emulating the Eskimos, who subside on almost pure blubber (you know, fat) in order to survive the long, cold winters? Just who should decide what a proper diet should be?
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There is no added salt or
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:32 ET by JesseJacksonIVThere is no added salt or hydrogenated vegetable oil in blubber, so it's better for you. Plus, the Eskimos don't sit on the couch and watch tv for hours after eating.
Well, there's your answer,
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:41 ET by fitzfongWell, there's your answer, then! Let's ban couches and tvs, too! But, then how would you get this oh-so-important information from Michael Jacobson if you didn't have NBC and ABC to uncritically read his press releases? Oh, the unintended consequences. :-(
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Say what?
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:47 ET by CobraManSay what? I've been told, by the government no less, that cholesterol you find in fat (you know, like blubber) is the primary cause of heart attacks! That eating cholesterol is a bad idea as it leads to higher blood cholesterol levels and blocked arteries, which leads to strokes and heart attacks! Now you're telling me that it's not? Are you telling me that the government LIED? If they lied about THAT, why should i believe them about salt?
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remember the Egg!
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:50 ET by katainkentEgg good!
Egg bad!
Egg sometimes good
or some egg good...
moderation... ok. Yeah... we're stickin with that answer.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
I Can't Believe it''s not Butter!
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:59 ET by CobraManI Can't Believe it's Not Butter has become "I Can't believe it's going to kill me!" So the commercials were right all along, it's not nice to fool Mother Mature. So, pass the butter, it's bran muffin time!
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did you know
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 14:10 ET by katainkentthat if you put out a brick of suet made with margarine the birds won't touch it? But at one time we were told it was better for us.
Yet here we are trying to omit even natural transfats from our diet to appease the food police.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
OMG!
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 14:24 ET by CobraManNatural butter is made with SALT!!! Run away, run away! Natural cheese is made with SALT!!! Run away, run away! Soy Sauce contains salt! Run away! Run away! Bread contains salt! Run away, run away! Deers and Elk seek out and consume salt! OMG, even Cows seek out salt! Run away, run away! OH! OH! The worst yet: SEAFOOD LIVES IN SALTWATER!!!!! Run Away! RUN AWAY!
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Cobra: I know it's
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 16:11 ET by QueenMumCobra: I know it's considered somewhat rude to correct someone's spelling or grammar. But I think you'd find it amusing, considering the context of your statement, that "subside" means - to sink or fall to the bottom. I think you meant "subsist". :)
GO CAVS!!!!!
Jacobson has been at this for decades
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 13:17 ET by StarAZThe "killer" Chinese, the "killer" Mexican...blah, blah...and the press always goes along for a news cycle.
Salt tax?
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 14:21 ET by katainkentmaybe after the Soda Tax.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
Well why not
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 14:31 ET by general companyConsidering they cant seem to figure out the best way to tax your air
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Salt
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 15:06 ET by QueenMum(Edited to include) "But for some, particularly the elderly, consuming 4,000 mg or
more of sodium in a single meal can present an immediate risk of heart
failure
or other serious problems."
This is another example of a statement that is easily disassembled.
People who suffer from congestive heart failure are usually elderly.
I'm not sure that someone with CHF would immediately keel over after
consuming 4000 mg. of salt. And most people with CHF know better. Healthy adults don't need to be treated as if they were sick.
The myth about salt is that it causes high blood pressure and heart
failure. Anyone who already has high blood pressure or is suffering
from CHF should avoid salt. It's my understanding that healthy
individuals are not at risk of developing high blood pressure or heart
failure merely because of the salt in their diet. (Perhaps one of the
medical professionals on board can confirm.)
Salt and high blood pressure
From the linked article: "Salt has been blamed in the past as
causing high blood pressure. New research though is suggesting that too
little calcium or potassium as having some impact on blood pressure. So salt may not be the only bad guy after all."
It's not a good idea for anyone to consume too much salt. But I think we'd be better off if the CSPI were fined or taxed every time they came up with another one of these "Public Interest" studies. Eggs for example have been given a reprieve. And they are a very economical source of high quality protein.
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Potassium
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 17:16 ET by Kingfish17Potasium does indeed counteract sodium in your diet. That's why foods high in Potassium are really great for you.
As people age, it gets harder to absorb potassium, so doctors prescribe potassium to people who have high blood pressure.
So, just be sure to order
Wed, 05/13/2009 - 08:36 ET by QueenMumSo, just be sure to order the baked potato. No problemo.
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Chili's
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 17:10 ET by Kingfish17The last time I ate at a Chili's, my footsteps melted the ice on the way back to the car, and a deer tried to lick me!
But I still think they have the best salsa. When you get the chips and salsa, ask for a bunch of lime wedges and squeeze some in the salsa. It's fantastic that way.
Jesse
Tue, 05/12/2009 - 20:31 ET by nolotrippen...is a troll. Please do not feed, unless it's with salty goodness!
I have been eating out for over half a century. I do NOT need the govenment telling me what, where, or how much I should eat. Nor do I need a government that has trouble delivering mail telling me what's in the food I eat. I have books for that. I know what's in restaurant food. The question is, why doesn't Jesse? Oh, that's right. He actually DOES know. But the goverenment has to be in there anyway, because Jesse knows what's best for "most people."
"Most people don't know" is one of the left's mantras, sung from the rocking chair as they comb the hair on their dolls.
Once again, CSPI misleads the sheeple.
Fri, 06/19/2009 - 17:39 ET by darthchaosofrspwWhat CSPI conveniently forget to tell the sheeple is that a super-majority of the sodium content in the foods that CSPI attacks for having too much salt is not table salt (sodium chloride), but MSG (monosodium glutamate), which is an excitotoxin. CSPI has long been an apologist for the MSG industry. CSPI is using MSG as their excuse to launch a blanket demonization on sodium period.
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/CSPI_ReWSJ_finalVersion.html
A well-known health group
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 07:23 ET by hanahA well-known health group is out with a new warning about America's most popular chain restaurants saying many of their meals have dangerous amounts of salt," "World News" anchor Charles Gibson said. "The Center for Science in the Public Interest checked 102 meals and found 85 of them had more than a day's worth of sodium
Restaurant equipment
This is the most bizarre post in my 20 years at NB
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 07:57 ET by JWFThe quote is from the article above. And a link to a restaurant equipment supplies. All to respond to an article 6 months ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0i_qBOmZ9E