At first it was reported that President Barack Obama wasn't even aware of the nationwide Tea Party protests that occurred on April 15. But now he's out criticizing them and the Fox News Channel.
In a town hall meeting in St. Louis on April 29, Obama was asked about fiscal discipline and entitlement reform. In his response, he took a shot at the Fox News Channel and the tea party movement, insisting he's "happy to have a serious conversation" with them.
"So, when you see - those of you who are watching certain news channels that on which I'm not very popular and you see folks waving tea bags around, let me just remind them that I am happy to have a serious conversation about how we are going to cut our health care costs down over the long term, how we are going to stabilize Social Security," Obama said.
Obama explained the stimulus, called the Recovery Act, was just a small part of the spending in Washington and part of the real challenge facing his administration.
"But let's not play games and pretend the reason is because of the Recovery Act, because that's just a fraction of the overall problem that we've got," Obama said. "We are going to have to tighten our belts, but we're going to have to do it in an intelligent way.
The president insisted cutting government spending wasn't the solution - that government "programs that help ordinary people" were path to solving the country's difficulties.
"And, we got to make sure that the people who are helped are working American families and we're not suddenly saying that the way to do this is to eliminate programs that help ordinary people and give more tax cuts to the wealthy," Obama explained. "We tried that formula for eight years. It did not work and I don't intend to go back to it."
Obama has shown a modicum of fiscal discipline, which has been mocked by some policy analysts. On April 20, the president announced he was going to trim $100 million from certain departments of the executive branch.





















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Would somebody at Fox News present my offer
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:06 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonI'm just a "dumb old truckdriver" from Colorado and I am willing to debate 'the one' on live national TV?
Just me and he, one on one, no teleprompter or other forms of coaching.
No pre listed questions but an actual discussion and debate using FACTUAL, historical data.
As a 'highly educated, Constitutional scholar' why would he decline such an offer to show how much more intelligent he is than a peon from the unwashed masses in flyover country?
http://gjresult.com
"...why would he decline such an offer..."
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:12 ET by Rukus'Cause you'd kick his ever-lovin' arse all over the place! ; )
Gary
All the oil is in Texas and the dipsticks are in D.C.!
Anybody else having problems with the story pages/
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:16 ET by Redrowan2000Format on page changed to expanded. anybody have a solution or experiencing the same prob?
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Red
Format on page changed to
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:10 ET by Dan The Man 2Format on page changed to expanded. anybody have a solution or experiencing the same prob?
Yes on both counts. I have a low tech solution, wait until the done flashes on the lowewr left on the window and hit stop. It doesnt solve the problem but does stop it from going wide. There is probably some formatting command being interprted to make it wide at the end. Im too lazy and have little access to run the problem down.
It is on the server side as other sites dont have this glitch. Dont know if its involved in teh version of browser or any updates not installed. I dont have priviliges to update here.
Dan, on some of the topics
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:44 ET by ConservativeRexDan, on some of the topics it expands to infinity on others like this one, it appears as it normally does. As usual on things like this I had thought it was only me.
red...and others... Yes,
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 23:53 ET by bigtimerred...and others...
Yes, yes and yes...I have had problems here all week long on and off.
It was also slow this afternoon again...plus when I click to a comment it goes there, then automatically jumps somewhere else until you find the comment, if you want to bother...really weird today ...
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Comrade Obama
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:29 ET by east tennessee johnOK. Let's have a serious discussion. Why didn't you ever once discuss the impact of black liberation theology on you, or if it had no impact, why did you sit for 20 years in the pews of Trinity United? What is the basis for your economic viewpoint? Does it include the idea of class warfare? Have you ever read a book on market economics that wasn't a critique? IF so, which one? If Bush deficits are so bad how does creating greater deficits improve the economoic position of the United States? Can you tell me 1 ec onomy of any size that was grown from the gound up, as you say you are going to do with ours? How, exactly, in your mind did we become a $14 trillion economy with a living standard unsurpassed for the greatest number of people in the history of the world? Can you name 1, just 1 New Deal program that survived 1940 or any Great Society/War on Poverty program that's been effective, let alone terminated? Relying solely on our criminal justice system to protect us from terrorist attck is a proven failed philosophy. Why do you embrace it? Afterall, even you must be aware that DC is still a priority target. Now that you've become Commander-in Chief and civilan deaths still occur in combat operations, are you too the same war criminal your supporters accused George Bush of being? If not, why not? How do you intend to explain the hidden tax of inflation due to rising prices caused by increased taxes on producers, energy and the inflated money supply? Surely, these can't be blamed on Bush since it will stem from actions taken by you. Won't inflation hurt those on fixed incomes and workers whose wages don't keep pace with inflation the most, YOUR PEOPLE? Anytime you want to have a serious conversation, Mr. President. Also, can you name 1, just 1 governmentally controlled healthcare system that didn't cut access or ration care? Bet you can't.
Yeah,
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:57 ET by boomerconYeah, what he said!
dayum, John...how do I vote for you? And why didn't you email all those questions to the presidential debates? (like that woud've done any good).
VOTE FOR JOHN!!
I second your motion, BC!!! Great points, ETJ!
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:20 ET by Cape ConservativeI'll volunteer for your (barf!!) N.E. campaign ;~)
This comment comes from a proud RWRE!! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams
Conservative vs Liberal protests
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 09:03 ET by grumpyoldbWhen Conservatives protest (which they rarely have time to do since they are busy WORKING and paying the taxes that run this country) they are over-reacting, or they are pushing a radical agenda.
When Liberals do it (which they do at the drop of a hat since many of them are sponging off of society and have nothing better to do) they are excersizing their right of free speach. When William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn (personal friends of our new Prez) set bombs at police stations, the Pentagon, and a judges house, they were just excersizing their constitutional rights....
Get used to the fact that your rights to free speach in this country will soon depend on whether you agree with thc government or not...
ah the never-ending campaign
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:17 ET by candanceNo wonder his poll numbers stay so high.
Inidentally, take note of his answer. He doesn't say there will be a serious talk about the deficit or Tim Geitherner's taxes or the invisible surgeon general. He says we can have a serious talk about government healthcare.
Someone needs to send him a memo that the tea parties had nothing to do with Social Security.
I bet you guys, in 50 years the tea parties will be painted as protesting Republican holdovers and Obama not giving us socialism fast enough.
PS - Also notice how he attacks Bush for cutting welfare spending. Considers the fact that Bush expanded SCHIP and NCLB while doubling the size of the government, and Obama spend his campaigning days joking that Republicans had no high ground on spending - alll of this seems rather dishonest.
I swear, this man is as conniving and manipulating as the day is long.
Yep. As usual, the true
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:19 ET by HockeyKidYep. As usual, the true answer is hidden in Uhbama's narcissistic proclamations. He says, to paraphrase, "I'll be happy to have a conversation about whatever the hell I want, and I don't care what you want. I won. Sit down and shut up."
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Now you're getting it, HK!
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:22 ET by Cape ConservativeThis comment comes from a proud RWRE!! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams
Nonsense he doesnt want a real conversation
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:17 ET by dark_dsNonsense he doesnt want a real conversation he wants to talk down to people who dont agree with him and disregard anything they have to say. If he wanted a real dialogue he wouldnt disparage people prior to that dialogue.
Also he wants to cut 100 million from the budget then wastes $350,000 on a photo op. Huh?????????
_______ Him and the Unicorn he rode in on
I can do Uhbama's budget
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:21 ET by HockeyKidI can do Uhbama's budget cuts even better. I just bought a Mega Millions ticket.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
The conversation Obama wants is the one way kind
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:38 ET by Old SaltHe would so love to be able to shut down any dissent. It amazes me how he confidently dismisses so many Americans with his smirky comments, like we're too stupid to get it.....and so many of his mindless minions applaud. What an arrogant snob!
Arrogant jerk
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 07:59 ET by adamsmithWith his tea bag comments, President Zero showed his true colors. He just insulted half the nation with his condescending arrogance. July 4th ought to be a doozy for this guy as there should be four times the number of people participating in a protest with what he is doing with OUR MONEY!!!!
Bush never made any comments liked this about the kooks in Code Pink showing he had way more class than this talking teleprompter...Code Pink had maybe 29 protesters at any given time. I guess President Zero is dipping into Saul Alinsky's book again in ridiculing any dissenting voices...I'm bored, let's have another election THIS November. This guy is too easy to figure out....Soros should have found a better stooge...
**Comment
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:20 ET by pelicanmarshHow I wish Obama would have taken Mr. Limbaugh up on his offer to debate.
No notes, no teleprompter, no nothin' but these two men with microphones and 3 hours of air time.
Rush: America remains, as
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:26 ET by HockeyKidRush: America remains, as Ronald Reagan said, the last best hope for freedom and liberty.
O: Uh...
Rush: Every time tax cuts have been implemented, federal revenues have increased and the economy has boomed. Every time, on both sides of the aisle. Kennedy did it. Reagan did it.
O: Uh...
Rush: Socialism is the hideout of weak minds and immature men. Children love the idea of socialism, but you have to grow up and realize that it doesn't work in the real world. Adults who believe in socialism are, by definition, immature. They've never grown up. It's an infantile belief system.
O: Uh...
Ad infinitum.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
NEVER MIND
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:23 ET by MES41067I can't say it here.
Sounds furious to me.
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:24 ET by BlondeYep...he's furious that we're not drinking his Kool-Aid.
Guess what, Barry?
I hope he fails, too.
ha ha Blonde
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:38 ET by candanceI like it.
Thanks, can
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:42 ET by BlondeBored w/Barry & the incessant sucking up.
I hope he fails, too.
I can't believe him....
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:29 ET by taocpaEverytime he opens his mouth I cringe.
I can't believe he mocked the tea parties and Fox News. He should be above that as President. As mentioned, he also blames the tax cuts for the wealthy as part of the problem.
He has no clue. Under Reagan and Bush II, our economy flourished and people thrived. Under Bush II, households saw their net worth go up faster than anytime in recent memory. They only declined when we elected a Dumbocratic Congress. The WSJ did a story on it last month, I believe.
But he will erase all of that with tax increases and more stock market declines. What a disaster.
When will the madness end? Hopefully, January 20, 2013.
Tom
On the other hand...
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:42 ET by needle“Under Bush II, households saw their net worth go up faster than anytime in recent memory.”
Unfortunately some of that increase in wealth was due to inflated housing prices.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Which was caused by the
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 22:08 ET by MrSnugglesWhich was caused by the democrats desire for "affordable housing". How ironic that whole mess was.
BHO is a cheesy liar.
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:35 ET by NL207BHO is a cheesy liar. He no more wants to have a real, public debate with Fox News or the Tea Party goers than he does with Rush Limbaugh. What he is hoping for here is to goad his sycophants in the MSM into trashing these people on his behalf just like they did Limbaugh.
Yep
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:25 ET by general companyHe is looking for some help to ridicule the left. Debate for him means you listen and he talks. But your right, he is simply emphasizing Emanuals talking points from the morning meeting with the press.
Maybe the liberals can remind us all of how many times Bush called out network news, or anyone else for that matter.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
GC - Of course 'the one' will NEVER admit he 'knows' one
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:30 ET by Cape Conservativething about the ratings game - where FOX has more viewers than all the other alphabets combined during most of prime time (if not all ;~)
Just like he was 'unaware of our tea parties' - my FOOT! The man is so deceitful I truly believe he does NOT know how to speak the truth. Everything that comes out of his mouth comes from another source and is only to be considered for the purpose of the moment - and as has been demonstrated often lately, it's here today and gone tomorrow, only to return the next day!
This comment comes from a proud RWRE!! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams
we've been called out?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:38 ET by katainkentI feel special! Not just Hannity... not just Rush... now its us... the lunatics "waving tea bags". We can look forward to Presidentially sanctioned trashing from here on out.
Everything that comes out of his mouth is a half truth or a bald faced lie.
I feel like I've been stomped on and told to STFU.
*furious*
I love to help the helpless but I'm not gonna help the clueless ~Dennis Miller
you know kata
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:45 ET by candanceIf he wasn't so busy giving prime time speeches, holding weekday townhalls, and promising to campaign for Arlen Spector, he might have had time to fill his cabinet and go line-by-line through the budget now.
His ego is so huge that he has to campaign for affection even while in charge and has to attack anyone who embarrasses him. Marie Antoinette had nothing on this guy.
guess I should just hand over my keys
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:52 ET by katainkentsince I am not smart enough to know how to take care of myself anymore. At least there is one bright spot... at least I know where all three sets of keys are to both vehicles.
I love to help the helpless but I'm not gonna help the clueless ~Dennis Miller
Not much of an "attack."
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:42 ET by balboaNot much of an "attack." More a scathing "mention."
~Yeah, a "scathing mention"
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:48 ET by choselife3xFrom the President of the United States aimed at ordinary private citizens. Classy. Dignified, too.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
There's nothing undignified
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:50 ET by balboaThere's nothing undignified with mentioning the private citizens. That's not some untouchable kind of classification. He talked about them. Didn't call them monsters, didn't insult them. He talked about them. Ooo, the outrage!
~Your hands aren't big enough
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:54 ET by choselife3xTo cover your tail and Obama's. Pick one.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Huh...that has nothing to do
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:56 ET by balboaHuh...that has nothing to do whatsoever with what I posted.
For your info
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:03 ET by BlondeWhat is undignified is The One's purposeful mischaracterization of the motives of the million or so people who attended the tea parties. Health care? Bulls###.
It is a lie, balboa, and a very poor one at that. He knows full good and well the protest was against his profligate spending habits that makes everyone's unborn children owe tens of thousands of dollars, each, for his political payback.
But keep shilling for your savior....it's so bloody predictable.
I hope he fails, too.
Bloody predictable. Hm. I
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:17 ET by balboaBloody predictable. Hm.
I think Obama characterized the motives of the tea party protestors as people who were concerned about how Obama's healthcare plan was going to affect government spending. Maybe a narrow definition, but hardly "undignified," and hardly an "attack."
Pretzel Logic
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:19 ET by BlondeCarry on.
I hope he fails, too.
Hardly. More like
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:27 ET by balboaHardly. More like straightforward logic, a la pretzel sticks. But by all means, Blame Obama.
Bal, you know very well by
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:57 ET by Dan The Man 2Bal, you know very well by his manner and tone what he meant. We and you are not stupid so stop being obtuse.
Not really. I know what you
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:03 ET by balboaNot really. I know what you think his manner and tone indicate, and how that differs from my opinion of the same matter, same as how we differed on whether or not Obama was giving the finger / scratched his face during the campaign. That's all.
Bal, are you really that
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:11 ET by Dan The Man 2Bal, are you really that dense or just obstinate?
I guess you'll have to pick.
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:38 ET by balboaI guess you'll have to pick. I didn't see him attacking the protestors nor Fox News.
So you don't consider
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:15 ET by bretzysdudeSo you don't consider "waving tea bags around" and noting "certain news channels" is a mockery? He chose those specific words to make fun of his opposition.
I don't see why Obama
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:59 ET by JasonCI don't see why Obama shouldn't be able to make explicit reference to a series of events in which sentiments like "Obama is an Assault on America" made up the controlling theme.
Wouldn't GW Bush not have been perfectly within line, when tens of thousands of Americans were protesting the invasion of Iraq in major cities to make reference to people "waving signs around" and to say "I'd be happy to have a serious discussion about the geo-political necessity of invading Iraq"?
I'll say this about Bush, he had a lot of class and self-control not to respond directly to some of the berating he took. But I don't think that necessarily sets the standard for how a president MUST respond (or not respond, as it were) to concerted movements against him, against his policies, movements which "hope that he fails." In the past, presidents have responded explicitly to their critics. It is a strange modern trend which suggests that a sitting president should not make reference to certain movements or media organs which are clearly positioned against him.
If obama were doing his job
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 22:14 ET by MrSnugglesIf obama were doing his job and not campaigning 24/7, he would not have time to respond to ANY of his detractors.
sarcastic snide remarks reveal his inner beliefs
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:54 ET by dark_ds"I guess you'll have to pick. I didn't see him attacking the protestors nor Fox News."
There are varying degrees of attacking .... sarcastic snide remarks are not a severe form of attack but they do reveal the core of his beliefs. A more severe form of attack would be the report that certain conservative stances are predictors of terrorism.
Like the line "clinging to their religion and guns" reveals a distain for both evangelicals and gun owners. He is looking down on them and thinking he is superior.
Obama is an elitist ..... and as he has said words matter ....
"_______ Him and the Unicorn he rode in on"
RE: Pretzel Logic
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:42 ET by JasonCI have never met Napoleon
But I plan to find the time
Well...if that's an apology....
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:53 ET by BlondeI stepped up on the platform
The man gave me the news
He said, You must be joking son
Where did you get those shoes?
I hope he fails, too.
how would that be construed as apologetic?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 18:01 ET by JasonCYes I'd love to tour the Southland
In a traveling minstrel show
...ooh, that probably wasn't a good choice to quote.
Later Jason
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 18:06 ET by BlondeI am well and truly done with you.
I hope he fails, too.
I just don't see how
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 18:25 ET by JasonCI just don't see how quoting Steely Dan could be interepreted as an apology for not being a Mel Gibson fan. It's a mystery.
The things that pass for
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 18:44 ET by balboaThe things that pass for knowledge
I can't understand
→ Dirty Work
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:41 ET by Cool ArrowTimes are hard
Youre afraid to pay the fee
So you find yourself somebody
Who can do the job for free
It's hard to talk when you're teabagging - Anderson Cooper
They call Alabama the
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 22:24 ET by JasonCThey call Alabama the crimson tide Call me Deacon Blues
completely backwards
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:01 ET by candanceWe were all protesting the coming healthcare bill? Right...as soon as we were done protesting Bailout #1, Bailout #2, control of executive salaries, control of GM, promising to let the tax cuts expire, and ridiculous pork barrel "stimulus" spending....after all of that stuff, we protested the possibility of government healthcare.
Either Obama is really stupid or he is purposely changing the subject for his own gain.
I'd imagine he's
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:11 ET by balboaI'd imagine he's purposefully changing the subject for his own gain.
Just wait when the details
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:14 ET by dscottJust wait when the details of the so called health care reform come out. Many people don't realize what this schister is about to do with Medicare and Medicaid because the reason why he wants to move immediately on health care is ... Medicare. He has repeatedly made reference to Medicare when talking about health care reform. Remember what happened with RomneyCare!
Just read the trust fund report, the whole story is there.
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/TRSUM/trsummary.html
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Everyone better pray for TK's health - as soon as he goes,
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:37 ET by Cape Conservativeit won't be a week before 'the one' and his accomplices Reid and Pelosi put forth the EMK Healthcare bill - mark my words!
This comment comes from a proud RWRE!! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams
Let's not call it an attack,
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:07 ET by SickofLibsLet's not call it an attack, let's call it merely a statement then.
If he characterized the tea party motivation as disdain for his healthcare plan, then that makes him a liar, because everyone knows that healthcare was not the focus. It was barely even a minor point.
Further, for us to hear that he was UNAWARE of the tea parties was an EPIC LIE; who believes he wasn't getting briefed every 20 minutes starting days before?
A disingenuous liar, surrounded by disingenuous liars, enabled by a disingenuous lying media.
Disdain for his healthcare
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:43 ET by balboaDisdain for his healthcare plan, concern for social security, and concern for regulation of government spending.
Bal, what's your point?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:17 ET by bretzysdudeBal, what's your point? You're talking in fragments here, but it didn't sound like you were directly answering.
Dood evening Bal
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:13 ET by cocodrieYour post indicates that you will say anything and do anything to defend your left-wing extremist heroes and that you have blinders and earplugs firmly attached.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Thinking the same thing Coco
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 18:30 ET by general companyBut I was wondering if he does it on purpose or not? Defender of idiocy, I guess someone has to?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
~Obtuse
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:17 ET by choselife3xThere's nothing undignified with mentioning (you forgot 'scathing'!) the private citizens.
So the President using his Office to say 'scathing' things about private citizens exercizing their Constitutional rights of peaceable assembly, free speech, and petitioning the government for redress of grievances is 'dignified'?
That's not some untouchable kind of classification
How about if they were mostly black or homosexual? Would they qualify for respectful treatment from the President then?
He talked about them. Didn't call them monsters, didn't insult them.
"Folks waving teabags around" (nice little derisive gesture, there) but it's "not because of the 'recovery act'"
So we're all just a bunch of idiots who don't know what's good for us, but he does. Ask TEA Partiers if they think he insulted them with his "scathing mention".
You are trying to cover his @ss by acting like he didn't actually mean what he meant. You are trying to cover your's with a flippant remark. "Ooo, the outrage!"
But then, I'm talking to a guy who thinks that this is not a bird!
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
He said nothing scathing or
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:25 ET by balboaHe said nothing scathing or undignified. The phrase "waving teabags around" is not some great insult. I guess you and I have different ideas of "what he meant."
~Contradicting yourself now
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:39 ET by choselife3xMore a scathing "mention."
He said nothing scathing
Scathing was your word. Three posts later you're taking it back? Excuse me, I'm astounded at how pitiful you look right now. Please cover that back up.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
"Scathing
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:59 ET by balboa"Scathing was your word"
It's called "sarcasm."
~Sarcasm is your word
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:06 ET by choselife3xBut it's called "lying."
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Being sarcastic is the same
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:12 ET by balboaBeing sarcastic is the same as lying?
~Wow
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:16 ET by choselife3xYou are on thin ice. You were lying about your use of 'scathing' being sarcastic and everyone here with 2 brain cells to rub together can see that.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
You've lost me. I have
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:31 ET by balboaYou've lost me. I have completely zero idea what you're talking about. "Scathing mention" was sarcasm, unless you really think that in my opinion Obama's mention of the protestors and Fox News was in any way scathing.
~You've lost me
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:55 ET by choselife3xI would not have thought that you would stoop to an outright lie, you just reduced yourself to troll status as far as I am concerned.
Not much of an "attack." More a scathing "mention."
There is nothing in that sentence that would suggest you are being sarcastic. Did anyone else think that he meant 'scathing' sarcastically in that post?
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Whatever. I know what I
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:15 ET by balboaWhatever. I know what I meant. Believe what you want to believe. I have nothing to gain from lying about something so trivial.
Bal, have you even LOOKED at
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:29 ET by bretzysdudeBal, have you even LOOKED at the video? You don't think he was mocking the opposition?
Hi, balboa. You'll have to
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:16 ET by QueenMumHi, balboa. You'll have to excuse the "girls". They obviously missed their naptime today and are a bit confused. On the other hand, they often call others "liar" when they can't come up with anything intelligent to say. Sometimes I wonder if they're libs in conservative clothing. ;)
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
~Often?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:27 ET by choselife3xI'd like to see you back that up. Now put your skirt back down, no one wants to see that. Bustle on.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Chose, as far as I'm
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:21 ET by bretzysdudeChose, as far as I'm concerned, bal and Jer have ALWAYS been under troll status. That theory that people don't want to turn NB into an echoing chamber because of no dissenters is ridiculous, because they can never debate the issues logically.
SAY IT AIN'T SO! I've
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:41 ET by JerSAY IT AIN'T SO! I've been condemned to trolldom by...bretzydude. Oh, the humanity. Somewhere, kilrod is grinning.
Jer
Listen Troll
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:03 ET by PopularTechWhat kind of Troll response is that? Stop trolling with your troll comments and hide under your bridge, you Trolling Troll Troller. : )
Obama: "Cap & Trade Will Cause Electricity Rates To Skyrocket"
PT... LMAO! That was a good
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:10 ET by bigtimerPT...
LMAO!
That was a good one.
Jer and boa both declared trolls here today.
Been interesting today around here.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Always interesting
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:24 ET by PopularTech: )
Obama: "Cap & Trade Will Cause Electricity Rates To Skyrocket"
Pop...Haven't you heard?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:23 ET by JerHaven't you heard? Obama got the EPA to declare the entire NB website a federally protected wilderness area and trolls an endangered species.
Nobody can touch me!
Jer
so jer
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:27 ET by botgyou must therefore ahh, touch yourself?
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
botg...
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:32 ET by JerOnly if the EPA grants a variance request.
Jer
amazing live seamonkey
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:34 ET by botgaka fairie shrimp are ya then?
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
Endangered Species are BS
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 21:09 ET by PopularTechBullshit! - Endangered Species (Video) (29min)
So your "safety" is in question. : )
Obama: "Cap & Trade Will Cause Electricity Rates To Skyrocket"
It's like having Bryant
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:08 ET by balboaIt's like having Bryant Gumbel claiming you're stuffy.
→ Bryant Gumbel
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:18 ET by Cool ArrowAt a Winter Olympics.
It's hard to talk when you're teabagging - Anderson Cooper
At least I'm nicer than
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 07:33 ET by bretzysdudeAt least I'm nicer than Bryant Gumbel. Didn't he call a Boy Scout Leader a "f*cking idiot"?
Not a Boy Scout leader
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 07:40 ET by motherbeltIt was a representative of the Family Research Council.
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
Aw Shucks
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:56 ET by kilrodAw shucks Jer, i caint hep maself when you postulate, reckon it could be you aint the smartest fly on the ducks ass, i bet ever time the ole duck dives you get wet. Now that's sumthin to Grin about.!!~~!!
(GRINS) kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
You've got me wondering,
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:29 ET by JerYou've got me wondering, kilrod. Which is dumber? A flea on a dog or a fly on a duck's ass?
Jer
Jer, I haven't condemned you
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 07:31 ET by bretzysdudeJer, I haven't condemned you just now. I always have condemed you. A bunch of us can see right through you.
bretzydude...re your condemnation of me
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 18:09 ET by JerYou've always condemned me? That's not exactly an electrifying revelation, bretzydude. Your comments to me have consistently been snide, impolite, and completely useless for any productive exchange of views.
However, perhaps I was mistaken, but I thought this was the first time you had officially condemned me to trolldom. That was the reason for my previous reply.
Finally, I'm curious. What do you mean by "a bunch of us can see right through you"? If your explanation is reasonable and points out something that maybe I'm not aware of but should be, I'll do my best to address it.
Jer
Jer
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 18:35 ET by shawn228I'm also curious on what he means by "a bunch" does he consider himself and pahuber "a bunch?"
He has a right to his opinion, but I wonder if can he back up his opinion and be specific on who else sees right through you.
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He had my vote
Whether someone's argument
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:12 ET by QueenMumWhether someone's argument appears logical has nothing to do with being a troll. IMO, the term has been grossly misinterpreted by those who can't seem to see things from another point of view.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
Thank you, QM...I, not
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 18:13 ET by JerThank you, QM...I, not surprisingly, completely agree.
Jer
**QueenMum
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 18:39 ET by pelicanmarsh...the term has been grossly misinterpreted by those who can't seem to see things from another point of view...
Hmm...very interesting observation.
And also one in which I have been cast into, the hard way! Ha!
Really, the phrase "waving
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:01 ET by dscottReally, the phrase "waving tea bags around" is reaching out to that segment of America whom are concerned about his spending policies? Please, he continues to show he is the Great Divider, not the Uniter he promised. Another broken promise, among the myriad of others. Then to trivialize it by saying the Recovery Act was just a fraction is just beyond the pale, he is either totally dismissive of what many Americans believe or totally disconnected from the people whom he claims to govern by saying he won.
Even you Bal must recognize that kind of disconnectiveness in a government leader is dangerous.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
dscott... It was obvious
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:09 ET by bigtimerdscott...
It was obvious what he was implying, plus if he could of got away with it he would have said 'tea-bagging' instead.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
dscott, I don't know if I
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:51 ET by balboadscott, I don't know if I can say "dangerous," but I can say that waving tea bags around indicates he believes the tea party people to be misguided or misinformed, which is not a way to endear him to them.
(But then again, he's never going to be embraced by those protestors, so does he have to try? No, not very "uniting" of him.)
boa... What O is doing is
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:07 ET by bigtimerboa...
What O is doing is trying to use intimidation to those who are going to be attending the Tea Parties, along with the rest of some in his administration DHS/Napolitano and control those who choose to watch Fox.
He knows exactly what he is doing....or better yet, his puppet-masters do.
If you can't see this, plus all the blog spots here about the Fairness Doctrine and what he via the FCC are planning on doing, along with the internet when it comes to the right side of the aisle and our free speech...then you haven't paid attention...it's been there right before your eyes.
Seton Motley had a blog post yesterday about this subject.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bt - first 'the one' tells us we shouldn't be listening to Rush,
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:43 ET by Cape Conservativenow it's we shouldn't be watching Fox or attending Tea Parties to protest his nationalizing our banks and auto companies and who knows what next? NB??
Rather thin-skinned, methinks!
This comment comes from a proud RWRE!! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams
To add to what bt had to
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:22 ET by QueenMumTo add to what bt had to say: I recall that whenever Pres. Bush was asked about his critics or those who protested his policies, he always responded by saying that in America we have freedom of speech. And that those protesting were exercising their rights under the Constitution. Obama responds in a very different way.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
Oh, please, Obama has
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:04 ET by dscottOh, please, Obama has nothing but contempt for the chattering classes. Since when do politicians talk down to the voters when they express their concerns????? The answer: Since Obama proclaimed, "I won". He is one arrogant SOB. He knows he has a secure job for the next 3 years, 8 months and 20+ days. He knows as long as the Dem majority is maintained in Congress he will never be impeached, so he can act like a corrupt Chicago politician all he wants with no consequences. Why don't you ask Mayor Daily how that all works? Yes, here is the hope and change he campaigned upon.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
dscott: It seems my comment
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:36 ET by QueenMumdscott: It seems my comment was misunderstood. I agree with all that you've said. I was merely pointing out the fact that Pres. Bush understood his Constitutional role.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
Well. let's try this one:
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:02 ET by JerWell. let's try this one: His words were neither scathing nor an attack. But I'll concede there is a "dignity" issue, as well as questionable judgment in uttering the words in the manner he did.
Jer
that's all ya got huh?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:02 ET by katainkentI love to help the helpless but I'm not gonna help the clueless ~Dennis Miller
sure balboa
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:48 ET by candanceI remember George Bush blaming networks for making him unpopular, lying about his predecessor's record on spending, and purposely changing the subject when asked to have a dialogue with protestors.
Please.
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:51 ET by balboaPlease.
please what balboa?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:04 ET by candanceI don't *want* to have a discussion about boosting Social Security. That wasn't the point of the tea parties and has never been a goal of the conservative side.
Don't you get it? What he's saying is that he's more than willing to talk to us as long as we talk about his favorite subjects.
And since lefties here have spent the last four years complaining about Bush's massive deficit due to reckless spending, it's blatantly dishonest to say Bush failed in that regard.
Not to mention
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 18:56 ET by general companyObama and the Dems voted for and wanted a larger spending bill. Also I dont recall the Dems and Obama wanting to talk about SS when Bush tried to save it. Obama doesnt want to listen to anyone not drinking the kool-aid, why else has he locked out the conservetives from policy making meetings?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
What Obama needs to realize
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 12:24 ET by joonbug50is that these Tea Parties were not partisan, conservative events. The one I went to even had a Democrat speaker. It's not just conservatives that are upset with what his administration is doing. To continue to belittle and ignore what's going on in this country with regards to the Tea Parties shows just how out of touch he is WITH this country.
he realized
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 12:48 ET by katainkentthis is his way of saying we're dismissed.
I love to help the helpless but I'm not gonna help the clueless ~Dennis Miller
candance...
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:14 ET by JerI remember George Bush blaming networks for making him unpopular...
Bush didn't need to when he had toadies like O'Reilly carrying the water for him. I remember one laughably softball interview BOR conducted with GWB where Billo went hyperbolic about how horribly the media treated Bush, and asked the President how he could possibly withstand the continual assaults. Bush, somewhat to his credit, didn't openly bash the "liberal" media, but neither did he restrain O'Reilly from doing so.
Jer
Jer
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:40 ET by MrShyUnreal.
Must I go and provide a compare-and-contrast list of puff-piece bullcrap interviews/profiles done of Obama by his endless army of pee-in-their-pants MSM "journalists"/"anchors" for primetime or news segments vs. those done of Bush? You really want to go there and look stupid?
More embarrassingly, Obama blows Bush away with only a few months as President under his belt -- of course, a lot of it coming from the lead-up-to-Prez propaganda engine the media rolled out some 2-plus years ago.
What's laughable is that you're all in knots over someone from one of the major news channels willing to, FOR ONCE, offer up a kinder/softer segment that wasn't out to assassinate the guy's character.
And yeah, I would fully -- not "somewhat" -- credit Bush for showing real class (as he almost always does) and not going after the media.
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Gee, Shy...
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:47 ET by JerI don't mind going there, but I hate to look stupid. How many times do I actually need to post on these threads my criticism of the media's excessive Obama idolatry--as well as my respect for Bush's classiness--before it finally sinks in???
Nor do I get tied up in knots over Fox News. I do have a problem with the charlatan O'Reilly conducting a painfully obvious softball interview, and then later bragging about how "tough" he had been on President Bush.
Jer
sorry Jer
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:34 ET by MrShyBut I honestly don't buy what you're selling. If you are even close to seeing it as I see it -- the corrupt imbalance of good vs. bad coverage by the MSM of each party and, more specifically, each President -- then O'Reilly's piece on Bush is utterly inconsequential and does not warrant being pointed to at all.
In more detail, I'll expose you here:
I remember one laughably softball interview BOR conducted with GWB where Billo went hyperbolic about how horribly the media treated Bush
A) Again, a *nice* profile done of Bush that was literally so rare during his MSM-beatdown 8-year tenure is only "laughable" to someone who doesn't get it.
B) As I seem to keep repeating to you -- and the primary reason this very site exists! -- there is indeed nothing "hyperbolic" about how horrible the media treated Bush. So, O'Reilly (any reason you're spelling it incorrectly?) was spot-on in broaching this totally valid subject because it was real and it was happening.
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Then put your money away,
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:35 ET by JerThen put your money away, Shy. You don't have a clue about the product. O'Reilly--btw, what am I misspelling?--was ostensibly not providing a "feel-good" puff piece about Bush. He was theoretically conducting a tough but fair interview. It turned out that it was anything but tough, although unsurprisingly he disengenuously later claimed it had been.
Furthermore, despite your expected denials, the media was no friend of the Clintons. That elicted no sympathy from O'Reilly. He simply doubled down on the attacks.
Jer
the media was no friend of
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:25 ET by bretzysdudethe media was no friend of the Clintons.
Oh, I can't wait to hear this. Examples?
Yea real soft?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:11 ET by general companyTranscripts
I did not see where he asked what his favorite color was?
But Couric sure was tough on Obama. But we know, thats different
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Jer
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:43 ET by well99So Bush has control over what private citizens have to say?Wow so that makes Obama in charge of Olbermann,Madcow and the rest.Obama is a petulant child.His answer to opposeing views is I won.Wow no sh8t Mr.Telepropter.He is nothing but a self serveing lying politician.He takes cheap shops because he is a coward like his buddy Gore.He is afraid to have a honest discussion.Him and his toadies go on the attack mode any chance there is dissent.Is he the president or some spoiled little rich kid.
well99...
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:50 ET by JerI believe many of the Congressional Republicans have a different opinion. They should be in a position to know.
Jer
Jer
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:26 ET by well99Know what?That the messiah doesnt believe in dissent?That he is a pampered little child?That for all that education he has the common sense of a rock?Which is it?
dude
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:51 ET by candanceWhat Shy said. Bush was supposed to stop BOR and demand tougher questions? Bush was supposed to say "well you know the NYT calls me emperor boy and attacks me every week, but I should defend them against evil BOR anyway"?
Obama and his staffers have singled out Fox News for attack more than once. They publicly refused to debate there, made constant snide remarks about Sean Hannity, blamed Fox in their press releases, etc. And here we have him again implying that people who watch that network are more prone to dislike him unfairly.
And your only comeback is that BOR once whined about the MSM and Bush failed to tell him to stop.
singled out Fox News
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:12 ET by SickofLibsThe only thing he hasn't done on this front yet is to officially appoint a FoxWatch Czar.
But that's only because he's not that hot with making appointments and all.
Good one, Sicko... Hope
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:19 ET by JerGood one, Sicko...
Hope the Obama folks don't see your post. Maybe you should delete it. :-)
Jer
checkmate to Jer!
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:34 ET by SickofLibsYou are clever, yet devious, indeed - by posting a reply you disabled my ability to delete or edit it.
Curses!
Sheer luck, SoL
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:47 ET by JerLOL...Wish I could take credit for that bit of cleverness, but alas it was merely serendipitous [I think that's the appropriate bullsh!t word to describe it].
Jer
"Officially"...
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:21 ET by Prester John...is the operative word.
dudette... What I said
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:15 ET by Jerdudette...
What I said back to Shy. And...
There is an imbalance in the media. It is tilted left, and I wish there more conservative opinion available in television and print media. That said, Fox News is the most aggressively partisan network in broadcast history. Sure, there are a sprinkling of moderate to leftish guest commentators, but there is not a single liberal who hosts his or her own politically-oriented program. Even MSNBC has three hours of Scarborough every day.
In the 90's, my ultra-conservative step-father would get his anti-Clinton "fix" every night from Fox. Now he savors every bash-Obama harangue delivered by the likes of Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly et al.
Obama has been interviewed on Fox News Sunday. He has been interviewed by O'Reilly. But make no mistake. FNN has been molded in the image of its president, Roger Ailes--a take-no-prisoners, long-time conservative Republican activist.
Jer
and?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:24 ET by candanceObama decided to go on BOR only toward the end of the campaign when he knew he would win. Same for Fox News Sunday. You know _darn_well_ there was never a DNC debate on there.
And I fail to see what FNN's lineup has to do with a president openly fighting them from the bully pulpit - which was the original point of this.
"Obama decided to go on BOR
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 02:20 ET by ckc1227"Obama decided to go on BOR only toward the end of the campaign when he knew he would win."
And not only that, he did it specifically to try and steal thunder away from McCain's night at the Republican convention. Because of the way that went down, that's the night I stopped watching BOR. I probably haven't seen 60 minutes of his show since.
Jer
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:31 ET by MrShyArg, we've been around this block before, haven't we?
If you just stopped at "FOX is partisan to the right as CNN and MSNBC are partisan to the left" I would have no problem. Even if you suggested FOX was a bit more ideological, I'd roll my eyes and say fine. But this sort of.... um, what's the word?.... "hyperbole"-ish language?:
Fox News is the most aggressively partisan network in broadcast history.
You've been with us for a while and we all basically respect you, but I keep seeing through you more and more.
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yeah shy
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:34 ET by candanceI thought only teabagging rednecks engaged in such cartoonish whining.
cx2
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:47 ET by MrShyNotice I'm no longer Mr. Nice Guy?
My tolerance for people that even remotely suggest that Bush's treatment was not exceptional and everything we're making it out to be -- including bringing up the suggested just-as-bad-as-Bush myth that "Clinton had it bad in the 90's, too, you know" (see: Jer... yet again) -- is now at zero.
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Bush at least had a
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:56 ET by JerBush at least had a reliable base of media support. Clinton didn't. If you disagree, please list the media outlets in Clinton's camp.
Jer
"Bush at least had a
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:37 ET by MrShy"Bush at least had a reliable base of media support."
You're joking, right? Oh yeah, you're harping again on FOX and how it's above and beyond the pale of just leaning one way because of it's known ideological president/CEO. Naturally, mud is flung his way disproportionately to the point that he's a vilified household name, vs. the I-can-tell-you-they-are liberal ideologues running every other news/media outlet.
Jer, Bush liberated two incredibly world-theater-dangerous rogue states in the M.E. and made a tremendously nobel and courageous effort establishing democracies in both. He miraculously righted the economic ship, steadily enough at least, after 9/11 (2003-2007 were stable) and even more impressively protected us from another attack. Fiscally, if anything -- as you'll hear from a lot of NB'ers -- he was a centrist. Even socially, he was never the hard-right ideologue THE MEDIA painted him as, at all.
What's the send-off he gets from throngs of people in DC and around the world? "Hey hey hey, gooooodbyyyyeee!!!!"
I won't debate the successes/failures of Clinton vs. Bush, but did he do so much better so as to avoid such a graceful (/sarc) exit to make way for a new, relatively-inexperienced president from the other side of the aisle (sound familiar?) in 2000?
Why do you think there was such a stark difference in tone between the two departures after two terms?
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Jer (again)
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:37 ET by MrShyHmm.... *looks around*.... Jer must be busy. :p
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trollin'...trollin'...trolli
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:55 ET by Jertrollin'...trollin'...trollin' down the ri-ver.
Jer
You know, candance, there
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:02 ET by JerYou know, candance, there are a tiny minority here from whom I would expect a comment like that. This surprises me.
Jer
Jer that wasn't from candance.
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:27 ET by motherbeltI'm sure she was being sarcastic and parodying Janeane Garofalo who called the TEA party protesters a bunch of teabagging rednecks.
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
motherbelt...Thanks. But
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:00 ET by Jermotherbelt...
Thanks. But it was the "cartoonish whining" part that bothered me.
Jer
sorry if that offended you Jer
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 10:58 ET by candanceThat comment was a bit of hyperbole I threw in there. Didn't mean for you to take it seriously.
Cx2
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 11:24 ET by MrShyBut hold on, Jer knows all about hyperbole...
:)
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Right, Shy...and I have
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 18:23 ET by JerRight, Shy...and I have become quite astute at recognizing hyperbole. Like your earlier claim that you had always been "Mr. Nice Guy". [Just kidding, bud...you're a prince--well, that too is a little overboard.]
Jer
candance... It's not like
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 18:47 ET by Jercandance...
It's not like I was crushed. Let's just say I was mildly offended and disappointed--primarily because you were the author. So, I of course appreciate your expression of regret and the explanation that it wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I'm generally pretty good at recognizing good-natured razzing, but this may have been one of those times when a ;-) symbol--or some other "kidding" reference--would have been helpful.
Take care,
Jer
can can
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 19:00 ET by botgwith his total lack of nuance recognition i have no idea how jer remains a lib
;^ )
it's like ya need to spoon feed him
:)
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
botg...
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 19:20 ET by JerWhy don't you march on over to dKos where such pathetically absurd observations might find a more receptive audience. Unbelievable!
Jer
Could you tell I'm only kidding? :-)
well Jer
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 20:57 ET by botgaround here it's best to think like a cat and go with the flow.
is there a snarkaholics anonymous in SoCal?
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
botg...
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 22:41 ET by JerWhen you bring out the "big cats", I know it's time to throw in the towel.
Jer
rofl botg
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 20:52 ET by candanceHa!
"basically" respect me?
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:15 ET by Jer"basically" respect me? Is that like my saying "somewhat to Bush's credit"?
Maybe my rhetoric about Fox was a tad overboard. I'll take your advice. How about: "Fox is a bit more ideological...than any other media outlet since the beginning of time."
Finally, now that you can see through me, what do you see? Other than a heart as big as all outdoors.
Jer
Jer
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:33 ET by well99Actually Jer when it comes to Fox and BOR it is alot overboard.It nowhere compares to NBC/MSNBC.Also I dont remember Fox getting a bailout from the goverment like GE.Guess that is why they are cheerleaders for Dear Leader.
"basically" respect me? Is
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:34 ET by MrShy"basically" respect me? Is that like my saying "somewhat to Bush's credit"?
It means what it means. We don't completely, 100% respect* you. And yes, I speak on behalf of everyone here except Bal and the assorted coming-going trolls.
:)
* You're political view of things, not you as a humungous-hearted person.
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I respect Jer 96.84%.
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:43 ET by balboaI respect Jer 96.84%.
Hey Mr Shy
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:05 ET by well99You can respect someone and have a difference of opinion.Jer and Balboa are wrong most of the time and I can respect that.They have the right to be.If they would just cut and paste all my post they would of course be right all the time.OMG I turning into Obama!Everyone opinion counts as long as it the same as mine.I will seek help.
well99
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:15 ET by JerWould you still respect me if I didn't like the Sox?
Jer
lol should be a interesting
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:33 ET by well99lol should be a interesting year.To be honest I think there are too many good teams out there.Many wont hit their stride till later.I see the Cards off to a good start.Is this their year?
well99...The Cards start.
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:39 ET by JerSurprisingly good. A lot depends on Chris Carpenter. He pitched great in spring training and then got hurt again in his second outing.
Jer
Jer
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 21:07 ET by well99Do you think he has a big year in him?Well Cards are doing really well now.When he comes back from the injury it will be good if he can get back on stride.
baseball, jer & well99
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 21:24 ET by MrShyMy Mets are underachieving and sucking, as usual.
Also, I was ribbing Jer with the respect thing.
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Mr Shy
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 21:34 ET by well99I figured that.I was too.Well season is early so things could turn around.When is the next video.
MR. SHY'S NEXT VIDEO
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 11:30 ET by MrShy"When is the next video?"
Hey, well, I'm promoting the current one (as you can see :p) right now, so haven't started a new one yet... but ideas are cooking in the ole' noggin :) It will have the same old-movie theme/vibe, but with a different setting. Candance is giving me some ideas, too :)
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well99... I still think
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 18:25 ET by Jerwell99...
I still think the Cubs are the team to beat.
Jer
Jer
Fri, 05/01/2009 - 10:09 ET by well99Could be.The season is young so depending on injuries we'll see how it goes.Just too many things that change the picture.
Well99...
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 14:22 ET by Georgia Girl"You can respect someone and have a difference of opinion.Jer and Balboa are wrong most of the time and I can respect that.They have the right to be.If they would just cut and paste all my post they would of course be right all the time.OMG I turning into Obama!Everyone opinion counts as long as it the same as mine.I will seek help." (Well99)
I wish I would have seen this yesterday -- I really needed the laugh! And I can relate...I've been a little high on my own opinion the past few days as well. Perish the thought I remind myself of Obama. *_* Let's just say it's because we feel like O's been so busy hogging the teleprompter -- so it makes us desperate to get our own controlled message out whenever we can.:)
Anyway, nice & funny string of posts from ya'll...thanks. :)
Georgia Girl
Fri, 05/01/2009 - 10:04 ET by well99Well Geogia Girl you know your not like Obama.Without a teleprompter uh well uh uh you uh uh manage uh uh uh to get uh uh uh your uh uh uh message uh uh uh across.Obama cant do that without a teleprompter.Even with the softballs thrown him he whiffles.I never seen a president have such a hard time without his teleprompter.
Well99~
Fri, 05/01/2009 - 10:52 ET by Georgia GirlWell, uh, I have to, uh, agree with you. ^_^
I heard on FOXNEWS the other day that someone told Obama how great one of his speeches was, and Obama's response to this compliment was a very serious: "I have a gift."
Wouldn't we all -- with time and practice -- eventually stumble onto some sort of oratory "gift" with a great speech writer and teleprompter?
Georgia Girl...a conservative's view of Obama at Harvard
Fri, 05/01/2009 - 14:22 ET by JerThought you might be interested in reading this: an article written by a conservative who knew Obama at Harvard law school and posted at the conservative website Townhall.com.
Jer
"Bush, somewhat to his
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 02:09 ET by ckc1227"Bush, somewhat to his credit, didn't openly bash the "liberal" media, but neither did he restrain O'Reilly from doing so. "
Maybe he had heard of a little thing called the First Amendment.
He thinks he's so tough
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:52 ET by StarAZHe likes to play The Man and say he'd bring a gun to a knife fight---I am sure O'Reilly would love to dance again. Bill is leaning backwards--bowed over, really--to be "fair," so Junior has nothing to fear. Or maybe he doesn't.... I am surprised he hasn't read someplace that protestors are also American citizens.
Not much of a "man" More a failing "troll hobbit"
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 03:15 ET by JWFbalboa - Not much of a "man" More a failing "troll hobbit"
"But let's not play games
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 14:56 ET by dscott"But let's not play games and pretend the reason is because of the
Recovery Act, because that's just a fraction of the overall problem
that we've got,"
A fraction? Spending over a trillion dollars is just a fraction of your plans you say? Are you friggin insane?
How can anyone have a serious discussion with an insane person who thinks spending a trillion dollars is next to nothing?
Hello? Why do ordinary people want your help Obama? We aren't interested in your bribes and we certainly don't want government having any say how we run our lives. The point of any bribe is to do something that ordinarily is not according to the existing rules. You make the bribe, you make up a set of new rules.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
"We are going to have to tighten our belts, but we're going to h
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:01 ET by Paul Atreides"We are going to have to tighten our belts, but we're going to have to do it in an intelligent way.
Such as staging scary photo-ops?
For someone who is supposed to be so smart and savyy....
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:19 ET by Prester John....he sure likes pouring gasoline on the fire doesn't he?
Do any of his political operatives see that there are some really po'd people out there? Why would you want to make them even madder while dragging other people into the fray?
He is that stupid or is he that arrogant?
Or is he both?
Both
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:22 ET by BlondeDefinitely.
I hope he fails, too.
Obama
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:22 ET by jessieHJessie R. Hamby What an arrogant ass he is. If he isn't knowingly TERORIZING the people in NYC, he is throwing slurs at the people at the TEA parties. Hey, bam-bam, so you won a contest. BIG DEAL! Try winning when the race isn't fixed, BENEDICT! I still want to see your birth certificate! Show US your green card. All he has done is give all of OUR money away. Like that takes brains.
What job is he campaigning for
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:39 ET by TjexciteWhat job is he campaigning for, he got the job and now a rubber stamp in both houses he has the 60th vote now.
He can do any thing he wants. And for two years the GOP is mute. He can nationalize everything and go head first into where ever he wants. Again what is is campaigning for.
He has MSM to make the case to the public and then they will have some bias poll to prove that only if you have a D behind your name are the the only ones that can make money. He has the MSM to Palinize anyone who whats less government in their lives. He whats to throw out 1000+ years of capitalism because of some tax cuts that the rich got in the last 8 years. Which was working until the poor could not play rich any more when the bill came.
Yo...Obama... Doubling
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:49 ET by bigtimerYo...Obama...
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Which is what you just did today with this rhetoric.
Talk about making an increase in attendance for the July 4th Tea Parties...and heck, it's only April still..the more he opens his arrogant yapper, the more that will join.
What a narcissistic fool he is.
The gloves are off now with
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 15:53 ET by ConservativeRexThe gloves are off now with this punk.
Now he wants to get personal.
Good, I was waitng for this jerk-off to do something as dumb as this.
Now partner, here on out, anything, and I do mean anything, goes.
Come on across the Sabine River partner. We'll debate all the live long day.
We'll leave a light on for ya. Bring your newest bestest buddy Specter with you too.
CRex... Punk indeed...and
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:13 ET by bigtimerCRex...
Punk indeed...and arrogant one at that.
His smugness needs to be crammed where the sun doesn't shine soon...I cannot wait for '10...I worry about ACORN and some of the court cases pending with voting rules ect though.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
BT, We'll handle ACORN
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:35 ET by ConservativeRexBT, We'll handle ACORN just fine. We're on to them. They'll not pull anything out of their hat this time. They just think they have the upper hand. Very soon, they'll have another think coming. Damn the courts. How are we expected to respect any 'law' they come up with that they can not enforce?
My days are done giving a care about what some court comes up with. They've proven time and again they don't have our best interest at heart. Talk about chickens coming home to roost.
To quote some long dead President concerning the SCOUS.."they made this law, let them enforce it".
CRex...You aren't alone,
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:47 ET by bigtimerCRex...
You aren't alone, a lot of us out here are to that boiling point...and when that stew-pot overflows, there will be hell to pay.
By the way, with ACORN and the census that is a big problem Crex with Rahm running this via O/Soros etc, the gerry-meandering is very scary what I feel the will do.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
and no mention of the lunatics
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 16:39 ET by UndercoverConservativeburning bush in effigy for eight years. No mention of lunatics covering themselves in red paint and lying on streets blocking traffic. No mention of lunatics buying property just so they can sit outside the President's range and protest. No mention of "Code Pink" and their promised make out sessions to anyone who didn't walk into a recruiting center. No mention of "peace" protestors who attacked the horse of a SF mounted policeman with a glass bottle. No mention of outright death threats to the President, his family, and his children, some made by Media members on television. No mention of the thousands of other distatesful, weird, violent, and outright disruptive activities of *his* party's members for almost an entire decade.
Selective vision, selective hearing. If ignorance is bliss, we know now why Barry smiles so much.
WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)
"The great uniter"
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:00 ET by ReaverLet us not forget that this was the man who was billed as the great uniter who would bring the entire country together. We now see that he only wants to unite the part that agrees with him, anybody who dares to disagree with him can expect to be attacked like this.
If stupidity got us into this mess,
then why can't it get us out?
--Will Rogers
Obama the uniter
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:55 ET by needleIn the long run Obama may unite those who do not approve of his policies more thoroughly than ever before.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Why does he feel the need
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 17:17 ET by TIRMWhy does he feel the need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to fly around the country for these little pulblicity stunts? I am really getting tired of his hypocricy, he could have saved over One Million dollars in just the last week if he would sit his ass in DC.
I hope he continues to attack Fox News, it will be to his disservice.
Fear the Tea Party!
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 18:25 ET by jefflebowskiSo now they concede that Obama really did know about the tea parties? Wish they would make up their little dishonest minds! Wait until he sees MILLIONS of American patriots protesting against the unresponsive, huge government we are subjected to! The left is very afraid of the silent majority that is saying in one, monolithic voice, NO MORE! Fear the Tea Party!
Angry White Dude
www.angrywhitedude.com
So in effect, what this
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 18:34 ET by ConservativeRexSo in effect, what this jug-eared rascal did was agree with these multi-millionaire 'journalist' that insulted American citizens expressing their rights as free people to protest wrongs they see our government doing, when they made fun of us for going to tea parties.
The way I see it, any of these multi-millionaire 'journalist' that used the term 'tea-bagging' is not a journalist, nor do they deserve the least bit of respect anyone could accord them.
I do think it's time for a re-visit of the French Revolution. The French revolution brought in Socialism, well, it can be used to reverse Socialism as well.
To you libs, review the cause and effect of the French Revolution and it role in world history. You know, history, it's what happened before obama.
Why Obama is the dumbest president since FDR
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:06 ET by PopularTech"The president insisted cutting government spending wasn't the solution - that government "programs that help ordinary people" were path to solving the country's difficulties."
This is man is absolutely insane. It has to be from previous drug usage.
Obamas So-Called Stimulus: Good For Government, Bad For the Economy (Video) (Daniel J. Mitchell, Ph.D. Economics)
Obama: "Cap & Trade Will Cause Electricity Rates To Skyrocket"
This is man is absolutely
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:12 ET by Jack BauerHow did he get into Columbia and Harvard after admitting he was a useless drug addled student?
What did he write in his 1984 thesis about the Soviet Union?
So many questions? So few alleged journalists (sic) who give a shit.
Obama's Socialist Insanity
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:21 ET by PopularTechThat is an easy one, he was black. A far-left liberal institution like Columbia welcomed him with open arms.
The bigger problem is why so called "Intellectuals" trend towards socialism.
The Intellectuals and Socialism (PDF) (F.A. Hayek, Ph.D. Economics and Social Sciences, 1974 Nobel Prize for Economic Science)
Obama: "Cap & Trade Will Cause Electricity Rates To Skyrocket"
Obama confirms he is not an American
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:07 ET by Gat New York“we’ve begun the work of remaking America.” (Obama)
This solidifies the fact that Obama is not an American. Because if he ever liked this country then why the need to remake it?
He is leading a pack of feckless fools down the steep path of socialism.
It will be a serious talk
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:15 ET by snaggletoothieIt will be a serious talk only because he's willing to invoke the nuclear option to win. This man has yet to have a serious talk with all Americans. He has not been the president of all Americans. He has been a total puppet.
Hundreds of Tea Party Protesters
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:19 ET by slickwillie2001An aspect of Dear Leader's trip to St. Louis that you won't see reported in reports about -his trip to St. Louis! It just didn't happen. This must be why he made the smartass comments about teabags and Fox News.
Hundreds of Tea Party Protesters Greet Obama in St. Louis: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com
Very simply
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:53 ET by b4m4wyVery simply put,
What a dork.
Jeff, you inserted a
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:13 ET by larmar6058Jeff, you inserted a paraphrase to the President's comments that made it look like he was opposed to spending cuts. I watched the clip twice on youtube and the President never mentioned anything even close to your parapharse, "The President insisted cutting government spending wasn't the solution"
Why was your time even writing such a hack article. If I wanted slanted opinions instead of facts, I would have read the drudgereport.
Please explain how Obama supports spending cuts
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:37 ET by PopularTechLast I checked trillions in deficit spending was not fiscally responsible.
Beating Back Obamanomics (Ludwig Von Mises Institute)
Or do you consider spending Trillions more and cutting $100 million, a "spending cut"?
Obama: "Cap & Trade Will Cause Electricity Rates To Skyrocket"
"If I wanted slanted
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 01:53 ET by ckc1227"If I wanted slanted opinions instead of facts, I would have read the drudgereport."
So, in other words, you've never actually read the Drudgereport. If you had, you'd know that 99% of the links on his site actually point to stories written by other news agencies....like the AP, NY Times, LA Times, etc.
Wait a sec....maybe you HAVE read the Drudgereport.
Bush Should Have Done It
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:28 ET by rammingspeedObama is smarter than Bush by calling out his detractors. It's okay for a president to push back. (I hate Obama's policies, make no mistake.) But Bush took a horrible beating in the press, with lies and exaggerations ruling the day, and he never said a damn word in his own defense. He told Bill O'Reilly he figured to let the record and history speak for him. He did himself a great disservice, it was a terrible mistake.
Being that anything anyone
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 20:41 ET by IndyAdamBeing that anything anyone on the right says is deemed "hate speech" by the MSM and all other lefties out there, I consider it my duty to declare "HATE VOTE" for the next two elections.
tea parties~
Wed, 04/29/2009 - 23:08 ET by Georgia GirlIt really made me pretty sad when I heard Obama say this today. I felt like the folks at the tea parties really conducted themselves with dignity, and they were respectful about their protests. I was proud of them. But Obama seems so dismissive of anybody who doesn't agree with him; he's just so sensitive to any criticism of his policies or himself in general, and he comes off so condescending when he's defensive. He seems inclusive of about any group but conservatives -- as though nothing they (we)have to say is worthy of even considering and is worthy of scorn. For some reason, it didn't anger me when I heard his comment -- it just made me feel sad...I think of some of the folks I saw take the time to show up to peacefully demonstrate their concerns -- like the father with his two-year-old son -- all with what seemed very reasonable concerns, and did they deserve to be pushed off like a nuisance (kind of in a mocking tone) like that?
One thing they could do is
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 04:44 ET by BlackwaterOne thing they could do is GET RID OF SOCIAL SECURITY! SS is the biggest load of crap ever put onto Americans. It was enacted in 1938 with the retirement age of 62/65 depending. The average life expectancy at the time was less then 62 years old! It was simply another way to tax the American people; so of course it was thought of by a Democrat. We would save BILLIONS if not TRILLIONS by getting rid of SS. I'd rather have that money to invest myself then fork it over to the government to waste.
I believe that financialy smart people get screwed over by SS. They put in a lot and get no where close to that amount in return. While someone else who barely puts any to none reaps the benefits.
This is one of many ideas I have for easy reform of our monsterous economic problems. If any of you would like to read the others and tell me what you think email me at pjh72987@gmail.com I'd like to hear some constructive feed back since I'm only 21 and pretty much all my friends could care less lol
The people in the background
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 06:11 ET by Worriedlooked awfully lethargic. I'm sure they were all thinking, "Where have I heard this before."
And where was the teleprompter. Obama sounds like anything but presidential when he talks off the cuff.
Will Letterman ever show Obama gaffes?
Of Course, He's a Narcissist and Can't Handle Criticism
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 10:12 ET by Reaganite RepublicanSuddenly now he knows all about the TEA parties, LOL. And of course he felt the need to ridicule them... Alinsky Rule #5, I believe it is.
And Obama is making it crystal-clear he couldn't care less what the TEA Party demonstrators were trying to get through his head, he will now enact his radical agenda regardless of cost.
Spending trillions of dollars' worth of your and the next 2-3 generations' money doesn't seem to bother him one bit- and he acts like it doesn't even merit discussion. -
It's hard to imagine a worse combination in a leader than managerially-inexperienced narcissist with Bolshevik mentors and weird racial/class grudges. And he thinks he's king of the universe, when his resume doesn't qualify him to run a muffler shop.
What a nightmare this guy is-
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com
RR - you nailed him well! Unfit to serve in any capacity!!
Thu, 04/30/2009 - 17:31 ET by Cape ConservativeWhich can also be used to describe EVERY Cabinet appointee!!!!
We are sooooo doomed!
This comment comes from a proud RWRE!! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams