ABC’s April 11 “World News with Charles Gibson” is showing they finally get it – ethanol production and high energy costs are causing food shortages worldwide.
“[P]rices are rising across
“Those biofuels are in fact a large part of the equation,” ABC correspondent David Muir added. “Many farmers around the world, who once grew wheat and rice, now grow corn and sugar cane instead, to produce ethanol a more lucrative market.”
Flash back to 2006: There was a time when New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman said he thought the realities of today would be a good thing - because it would cause oil demand to fall and disarm Iran's "oil weapon."
“[C]harlie, if they [Iran] cut off oil and oil went to $100 a barrel – that would make my day, because the sooner we go to $100 a barrel, the sooner we’re going to have everyone in America driving a plug-in hybrid car fueled by corn and ethanol,” Friedman said in an interview with then-“Good Morning America” host Charles Gibson on March 9, 2006. “And I think that would be a great thing. And that would ultimately free us from having to worry about these people.”
The realities: Oil closed at $106 a barrel on April 11, ethanol production is expected to increase 87 percent by 2012, and
In 2002, Friedman was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for “his clarity of vision, based on extensive reporting, in commenting on the worldwide impact of the terrorist threat,” according to the Pulitzer Web site. But now, his “clarity of vision” isn’t looking quite so good.






















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clarity of vision
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 18:23 ET by DontabYeah evertime these liberals have clarity of vision their blinded by their defected logic and never suffer the consequence's
Freidmann is an ignorant fool
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 10:14 ET by political mavenWho makes these know nothing-never had a real job-liberals experts?
This Friedmann is a world class clown who couldn't do anything but bloviate.
Liberals need to watch this on Ethanol:
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 20:30 ET by PopularTechMyth: Corn Ethanol is Great (Video) (5min) (John Stossel, 20/20)
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The BBC has an article
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 18:28 ET by forestThe BBC has an article today about high grain prices. No mention of ethanol or the lousy weather in China (and by lousy, I mean cold, not hot).
They seem to be entirely confounded by the high prices.
...and thanks to the
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 18:29 ET by bigtimer...and thanks to the congress-critters we aren't going to be self-dependent here on our own oil anytime soon...ethanol is a rip-off and a joke.
I just shake me head, give up.
It will take people waking up to the real problem which usually means $$$ being to much for their pocketbooks...but heck who knows anymore...what with algore adn his band of nutcase greenies and the three amigos running for office we are in for higher prices yet to come.
Friedman has always been overrated and will continue to be so from the other leftist everywhere...what a genius eh? Give him another prize.
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Watch Harkin's reelection campaign
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:49 ET by nkviking75Keep an eye on the reelection campaign of Tom Harkin, D(uh)-Iowa. Tom is chairman of the Senate Ag committee and a strong pusher of ethanol. He's even introduced a bill to study the feasibility of ethanol pipelines from the Midwest to the coasts. That's hardly a sign that Democrats have caught on to the problems of ethanol.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
nk... Thanks for
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 20:00 ET by bigtimernk...
Thanks for the heads up on this...I will keep my eye on this...although I think they very well have caught on...if you know my meaning here...$$$$ for their states.
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→ Pull the subsidy
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 18:50 ET by Cool ArrowLooks like this growing season is lost.
Pull the subsidies, and let the market decide whether we need food or transportation.
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The results of the
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 18:54 ET by motherbeltThe results of the government's ethanol subsidies is just another example of the "law of unintended consequences."
The bigger problem is, though, that to government, the solution is very often more government intervention.
Environmentalists
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 18:58 ET by iveseenitallThe "liberal" environmentalists, just as the "liberal" peaceniks and the global warming crowd, will lead us down the road to destruction. That's the ultimate irony. All their "progressive", "forward-looking" ideas have a down side because they too often care not for the common good, but rather only for their ideology. Moreover, it's the few, like Algore, who gain from all of this, not the many.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
If Liberal Socialists Can Control Our Energy Sources and Food. .
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:39 ET by arlanthen these liberal environmentalist, global warming, progrssive thinkers can CONTOL all Americans! With all the liberal energy regulations against drilling for our own natural OIL right here in the US, they are taking our other resources -such as corn for alternative energy- and then complain about the "shortage of " and "price increase " of food! How double-minded can our government be? When are Americans going to rally together and STOP this Junk Science? This enviromental extremist education is being taught begining in pre-school! This reminds me of another country who began taking over the hearts and minds of their youth to promote a government controlled ideology!
Like ALL liberal ideas,
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 01:34 ET by gfrrmantheir intentions were good, but they NEVER think ahead to the outcomes! Look at all the things in this country that liberalism has decimated...education being the #1!!! They cut off their nose, despite their face. Liberals are the poster child for the definiton of insane(Doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different outcome)!! Selah
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
gfrman, that's all that
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 07:46 ET by motherbeltgfrman, that's all that matters...they had "good intentions"! Even though they screwed up, what matters is that they tried to do something!
Just like it doesn't matter that 40 years and 30 trillion dollars later, they have not won the "war on poverty." The important thing is that they tried! They cared! They meant well!
Results??? PFFFFT!
They finally get it. Next, they'll blame Bush
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:04 ET by Gary HallI hate to say I told 'em so (actually, I'll be pleased to say it) - but once "they" really catch on what the actual real cost to society will be because of this "Gore" induced madness, the rush to ethanol, "they" will suddenly be all too willing to blame the entire disaster on none other than President George Bush.
This will play out as did the genetically modified foods issue. Bill Clinton brought it into the 21st century. His agri-corp marriage was of little concern to the MSM. The leftist groups, here and abroad were mad as hell at Bill Clinton and the US for it (not reported by the MSM). However, as soon as Bush came in, the left (including Bill Moyers, National Geographic) started blaming all that Clinton had done on Bush.
The media did the same with Clinton's Plan Colombia, by the way. Interesting, that the topic of Plan Colombia has not come up during this current Colombia trade bill discussion - but that's to protect Clinton.
On the ethanol story, the evidence the left and the MSM will trumpet will be the agri-corp connections to the Bush administration. Never mind that they are much the same as Clinton before, and that the real impetus for the Bush Administration supporting more ethanol production is driven by the theology of the Goreacle and his moonies, and immense pressure exerted on the Bush administration to do that which the MSM wants done.
Mark my word - Bush will be blamed for the financial impact, the starvation, and any potential civil unrest caused by this pending crisis. Actually, it's already started; some have been spitting anger at Bush over this for a few years now. Their basis for the spin lies in the fact that some of the true enviromentalists out there did not and will not buy into the ethanol story - they understand that it has serious shortfalls. The angry left will eventually come back to this truth, but will seek to blame Bush for it all.
E85 is not price competitive with Gasoline
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:13 ET by PopularTechUntil Gas prices get to over $6 a gallon E85 does not become price competitive (pure ethanol would be even more) and in a regular market it would be introduced on it's own without the help of the government. Right now people can buy fuel efficient cars if they want to, this is all about socialists trying to tell us how to live.
The liberals irrational hatred of oil companies never ceases to amaze me.
Give me a break - Oil Prices (Video) (5min) (John Stossel, 20/20)
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The price of gas has gone
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 00:29 ET by jpm100The price of gas has gone from ~$1.50 to 3.50 in about 6-7 years. And it will probably hit $4 before the end of the year. Please explain when the increases will stop.
Please explain when the price correcting mechanism kicks in? And that's not to mention that the Democrats believe the fix to gas prices is to heap more taxes on it.
$6/gallon doesn't seem out of reach or the distant future.
I am not Al Gore, I cannot predict the future
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 01:06 ET by PopularTechThe only way to reduce the price is either to increase the supply or to reduce the demand. If we keep restricting the supply by not allowing us to drill anywhere and everywhere the price will continue to go up. The government can immediately lower the price 47 cents a gallon by removing the taxes and that can be done right now.
- The average amount of tax on gasoline in the United States is 47.0 cents per gallon (API)
My point is simple, the market will automaticall bring in anything that is cost competitive to gasoline on it's own without the government and all we are doing is causing other problems right now such as increasing food prices.
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algore
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 11:39 ET by tejanodiabloalgore, won't you give me a hybrid car
my friends all drive prius's, i must make amends
algore won't you give me an energy star home .. hehehe ..
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
That doesn't sound right.
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 12:31 ET by CDOBsThe wholesale price of Ethanol (E85) is $2.45. The "subsidy" is mostly in the form of a tax waiver for ethanol to the consumer (which is why E85 costs what it does at the pump). So you can wait for the price of gasoline to go up to $6 a gallon with John Stossel, but the wholesale price of ethanol really is $2.45.
These food riots may reach a severity that miserable regimes are forced to end import tariffs on food. Kind of a rough shock to the various governments, but people may want to eat more than government wants to tax.
JBP
You are missing the Ethanol Subsidy and BTU adjustment
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 20:27 ET by PopularTechEthanol pricing must factor in the subsidies and you must adjust it for it's BTU rating since you will get WORSE MPG with Ethanol:
Subsidies - Biofuels: At What Cost? (Global Subsidies Initiative)
- Total Subsidies for Ethanol Between $6.3 and $8.7 Billion Per Year ($1.42-$1.87 Per Gallon)
Ethanol - E85 BTU Adjusted Price (AAA)
The current average price of Ethanol is $2.773 per gallon, BTU adjusted is $3.649 per gallon.
Even at its current subsidized price it is still more expensive than regular Gasoline at $3.371 per gallon.
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I have to commend liberals
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:18 ET by deerjerkydaveI have to commend liberals for doing a great PR job by feigning to care about people through the promotion of socialism. In reality they hate people. To them, people are the cause of all the problems in this world, and therefore we need less of them. Starving people in Africa? Who cares, there's too many of them anyway! So they think. This is elitism at its worst.
Some years ago I was
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 19:34 ET by FranksamSome years ago I was visiting Bezerkely CA. A Mecedes diesel car was double-parked, idling and unoccupied, but it did bear a bumper sticker that read 'No War for Oil'. Subsequently, I have noted bumper stickers which cry 'No Food for Fuel'. Well, which is it?
We are in a state of total war at this point, though too few people appreciate the fact. If the price of Mideast oil goes too high, we Americans will put corn in our gas tanks and the oil producers can feed their populations with asphalt, I guess.
Energy equals food. No oil equals no food to feed our enemies. Our enemies without food equals a good thing. There is a moral equivalent to petroleum, food, and energy produced from agricultural products such as corn. I do think that the ethanol subsidies are a rip-off to the American tax-payor, but if our enemies are paying more for food because of the subsidies, I'm willing to be more tolerant.
For those who wish me dead, I don't care if they can feed their children, who are probably being taught to wish me dead, too. Actually, I hope that they can't have children. Color me heartless, I guess.
Gotta go, I'm driving to a restaurant for dinner.
It looks like that most
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 20:04 ET by Chris NormanIt looks like that most "thoughtful" of journalists, Thomas Friedman, is going to have to give this issue some more "thought"...
The real lie here is that
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 20:22 ET by robert108The real lie here is that there is a "demand" for so-called "alternative fuel". This phony "demand" is based on a subsidized price, and if it were priced by the market, that "demand" would evaporate, along with the premium we are paying to have it added to our gasoline.
After a breakfast of corn
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 20:43 ET by MidAmericaAfter a breakfast of corn flakes you can put some more corn in your stove to make your house all toasty and then hop in your car and burn corn all the way to your job. If the poor countries knew what we were doing with their food they would do more than riot.
Poor countries' food
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 22:44 ET by FranksamMA, it is not 'their' food. They don't have food, in many situations, unless somebody sends it to them. What we do with our food should be based on our best interests, just like countries that produce oil or Barbie Dolls base decisions on their interests.
Haiti, for example is currently suffering unrest because people are hungry. I'm waiting for the uber-humanitarian Hugo Chavez to send food to them before I feel responsible. As an alternative to sending food, perhaps Venezuela could allow Haitians to immigrate to Caracas.
MA, it is not
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 00:04 ET by MidAmericaMA, it is not 'their' food.
Food is a worldwide market. Many countries cannot raise enough food. What we do with our food affects the world market. It's just like oil. If an oil producing country suddenly has a production problem it affects every oil consumer even when they don't buy from the affected oil producer. The US has committed itself to removing millions of acres from food production and converting those acres to energy production. Gore lies and people dies.
Eventually the market will respond. But not...
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 22:50 ET by Parker1227...instantly.
Friedman is partially correct in that high gas prices will push many auto buyers to demand and purchase more fuel efficient vehicles.
But how often does one change vehicles? High gas prices have only been with us a few months.
The food shortages caused by increased bio-fuel production have been forecast and debated for a long time now. No big surprise.
My question is, when are auto and truck drivers going to get off their complacent bottoms and wrestle control of U.S. energy policy from the hands of nit-wit environmentalists and DEMAND from their representatives in Washington that we exploit the huge reserves of oil and natural gas (and uranium) that we have within our own borders?
It is total lunacy blaming energy companies for the high price of oil, which is determined on the international market, while refusing to harvest the huge resources sitting right at our feet!
Bullseye
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 22:59 ET by bigtimerBullseye Parker...
Anytime we have the congress-critters, with their greenie weenie lobbyists dictating to them we are in one hell of a mess...like we are now...and we tax payers always end up voting and paying for this...the good guys never seem to win on this issue....
Pocket book is going to dictate any changes in the near future in my opinion, we are finally getting to near the breaking point.
Here is the latest or better yet newest find....wanna' bet this get's stopped.
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Whats ironic is that the
Fri, 04/11/2008 - 23:30 ET by MrSnugglesWhats ironic is that the envirowackos that hate the oil companies so much are also to blame for their huge profits. If we were allowed to drill in ANWR and the supposed multi-billion barrels of shale found in North Dakota, the price of oil would drop and the "massive windfall profits" wouldnt exist.
Great Leap Forward Into Madness
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 11:56 ET by CobraManThis situation, using food crops to make fuel instead of food and causing global food shortages in the process, reminds me of Mao's "Great Leap Forward" policy that had Chinese farmers making low-grade (and useless) steel on their farms instead of growing food crops. That foolish policy, replacing vital food crops with something else, led to the starvation deaths of millions of people in China. I hope that today's "Great Leap Forward to Alternative Energy" policy doesn't follow the same pattern and kill even larger numbers of people worldwide.
So far, it appears that it is. There's already a global food shortage due to this policy and any natural disaster that further decreases the global food supply could very well lead to massive starvation worldwide and kill tens of millions of people. That’s just what happened in China.
Why can't we ever learn from the mistakes of the past and why do our "leaders" seem eager to doom us to repeat them? This is a Great Leap Forward Into Madness.
Corn production
Sat, 04/12/2008 - 13:52 ET by JetBlastwill increase substantially this year now that the price has risen to $6/bushel. Years ago, the govt. began a CRP program that actually paid farmers NOT to grow any crops on their land. Now that grain prices have increased to the point where farmers can actually make a profit, they're pulling out of the CRP program and once again planning to plant every available acre to cash crops such as corn and soybeans.
PS Sen Schumer...ethanol cannot be transported by pipeline, it can only be trucked.