Global warming alarmist Anne Thompson has shown a propensity for having little regard for economic reality.
Thompson offered viewers on the February 21 broadcast of the "NBC Nightly News" a variety of reasons why building a badly-needed coal-fired power plant in an isolated part of Nevada is a bad idea.
"Critics say emissions are exactly the issue, because coal-fired power is the nation's biggest producer of CO2 emissions," Thompson said in a February 21 report from Ely, Nev. "That's why Nevada is in the center of this fight. The Ely energy center, which would sit in this valley, along with the other two proposed coal-fired plants, could more than double those greenhouse gas emissions, sending another 31 million tons into the sky."
What's solution does Thompson find more appropriate?
Try unreasonable and inefficient wind and solar power.
"But it's [coal] also more polluting than solar power or wind power," Thompson said to Steve Miller, president of Americans for Balanced Energy Choices (ABEC) - an advocacy group that supports building more coal-fired plants.
According to Thompson's "Our Planet" series report, the plant would bring 150 jobs and millions in tax dollars for Ely, Nev. That would be a shot in the arm for the Nevada economy - especially as it is getting rocked by the subprime fallout.
Such a project would be a big deal for the Ely economy alone. It's hard to imagine any wind or solar power project bringing that sort of economic development to Ely. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 11.3 percent of the city's families live below the poverty line, compared to a 9.2 percent national average.
But the positive effects a new coal power plant would have on Ely weren't enough to sway Thompson in its favor. Instead, she featured another global warming alarmist to decry coal power.
James Hansen, a NASA scientist frequently cited by global warming alarmists, appeared in the segment and called for "a moratorium on construction of new coal-fired power plants or we don't have any chance of stopping global climate change."




















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So lets build some nuke
February 22, 2008 - 14:28 ET by Dan The Man 2So lets build some nuke plants. I mean its out there in the middle of nowhere and its not like nukes havent been in Nevada before. So I say nuke em.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Cost Benefit Analysis
February 22, 2008 - 14:44 ET by allanfAlmost a century ago, the government, to avoid funding just any water project implemented a system of evaluating projects based on a cost benefit analysis.
Well CO2 restrictions just can't withstand a cost benefit analysis. So people like Anne can only respond with emotion.
I love the smokestacks behind Brian Willaims
February 22, 2008 - 15:06 ET by YahooWatcherDo you see that white stuff coming out of them? That's called steam, which is hot water, which just by chance is also known as H20, not CO2.
YW, Once the greenies figgure out that water is a BIGGER green-
February 22, 2008 - 16:31 ET by upcountrywaterhouse gas than CO2, look out...!
Iranian uranium; Iranian ICBM's; Iranian satellites..CHANGE is comming BELIEVE in that!
Hansen Just Showed...
February 22, 2008 - 15:16 ET by Wildcatter1980...he and the folks who accept his point of view are either fools or perpetuating a hoax on others:
James, I have news for you. No one or nothing is going to stop the Earth's climate from changing except the total destruction of the planet.
If Hansen actually thinks man can stop the climate from changing, isn't he the one who is the "denier"as in denying the obvious fact that the climate will always change?
Just my $0.02
It boils down to effeciency.
February 22, 2008 - 15:53 ET by rbosqueIt boils down to effeciency. We need real solutions to our energy problems such as coal or nuke plants. We don't need idiot reporters trying to dictate national energy solutions based on irrational wishful thinking.
Nuc plants in Nev...Utah
February 23, 2008 - 21:01 ET by sbarkNuc plants in Nev.......could help also extract the shale oil in that region at same time............2X oil reserves vrs Saudi in that Oil shale.........just need efficient source of heat to release......
Nuc Plants is the route Canada researching for the same process
Ive been through Ely, it's on the" Loneliest Road in America"
February 22, 2008 - 16:24 ET by upcountrywaterOnly a few people will ever notice a power plant there.
How about China opening a coal fired unit every 3 1/2 DAYS!
China currently generates around two thirds of its electricity from coal-fired power stations.[13] It is progressing with the construction of 562 new coal-fired plants over the next few years.[16][17] In June 2007 it was reported that an average of two new plants were being opened every week.[1
It's a private company wanting a permit to build a oil reducing utility. GIVE THEM A PERMIT NOW.
Iranian uranium; Iranian ICBM's; Iranian satellites..CHANGE is comming BELIEVE in that!
"James, I have news for
February 22, 2008 - 17:26 ET by ckc1227"James, I have news for you. No one or nothing is going to stop the
Earth's climate from changing except the total destruction of the
planet."
Saint Obama will. Once he's elected, the climate will never change, we'll never get sick, and we'll never grow old.
Wait, Coal emissions up for Clinton, not for Bush
February 22, 2008 - 17:29 ET by Gary HallJeff, right off the top you quote Thompson saying,
Is this true? A quick look at "The Carbon Boom" suggests that is not true. Presented by the U.S. PIRG Education Fund, which is utilizing EIA data, it is shown that CO2 emissions from Coal is only about 1/3 of total CO2 emissions from fossil fuels; see Fig D on page 16 of 44 of the report.
Also interesting in this all out attack on coal report, is that it appears that emmissions from Coal have remained almost flat (between 2000 and 2004), yet the real headline of the story was that,"between 1990 and 2004, U.S. carbon dioxide emissions from coal-fired plants increased by a quarter, accounting for three-forths of the emissions increase in the ... "bla bla.
Well, would you look at that. What it acutally said, is that during the Clinton era, or between 1990 and 2000, coal emissions rose some 25%. Since Bush became president, coal emissions have remained flat - a remarkable achievment.
Will somebody save me, please?
Thanks
February 22, 2008 - 17:57 ET by RESTLESS 1Nice link, although I don't know how you could stand to read the whole thing. An interesting graph on page 19 shows the total co2 out put from "coal", "other sectors" and "total (all sectors). I wonder what those "other" sectors are. Could some of that be NUCLEAR energy? It also showed that "other sectors" had about half the increase as coal. So how about it libs, lets get nuclear.
Restless, I'm too restless too have done such a thing
February 22, 2008 - 18:21 ET by Gary Hall"to read the whole thing."
But I read enough to have called the reseacher and sang, "Nah na nah n nah nah."
France doing SOMETHING right
February 23, 2008 - 08:01 ET by UnsaneFrance gets 78% of its electricity from nukes. They don't even have a permanent disposal sit for waste as does the United States (and Finland). If they can do that, why can't we?
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
France
February 23, 2008 - 09:20 ET by mandrakeUnsane, you left out an important piece of information. What is the per unit cost of power in France compared to the US?
I suspect they can do this because they have a strong central government that can override market forces. Something most folks here would call socialist.
Re: France
February 24, 2008 - 03:02 ET by UnsaneI read a paper that Mean Gene Dr. Love sent me a link to, and yes, you are correct that France's strong central government is largely responsible for that policy, beginning in 1974 with the onset of the oil crises that dominated that decade. However, THEIR path was one of Socialism. The United States COULD try something similar based on market forces.
In TX, utilities are widely privatized. There are still some government owned utilities out there and co-ops as well. Imagine if all of them banded together to chip in and, say, expand capacity at the STNP in Bay City and Comanche Park in the Dallas area. (Say, add two new reactors to each site.) There are creative ways to get things accomplished if one bothers to look.
Also, if you read The Economist you would know that the most expensive obstacle to nuclear power is the construction of the reactor facilities. That part is very expensive. But once you are done with that, nukes are cheap to run.
Also, as pointed out, the United States (and Finland) have something France does not: disposal sites for radioactive waste. France reprocesses much of its spent fuel, but there is no reason why the United States can't do both.
In essence, utility corporations pre-privatization are VERY socialistic. The government owns them (and places like coal generators), after all. I can't buy shares in City Public Service in San Antonio, can I?
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Unsane
February 23, 2008 - 17:17 ET by RESTLESS 1Long time no see buddy. Thought maybe you'd made your way to the "sandbox" already.
We should, by all rights, be leading the charge worldwide on nuclear energy. Between Hollywood, and Three Mile Island (which was overblown by the media imo), it never went as far as it should. Now, the libs are fussing over how we should be energy independent and such, but they made sure we would stay dependent on foreign oil for years to come by shutting down nuclear energy here the way they did. Makes me sick to think about it.
U.S. Carbon Emmissions have been falling
February 22, 2008 - 23:38 ET by PopularTechU.S. Carbon Dioxide Emissions From Fossil Fuels Declined By 1.3% In 2006 (Science Daily)
U.S. Greenhouse Emissions Fell 1.5% in 2006 (USA Today)
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There are many problems with Wind Power
February 22, 2008 - 23:20 ET by PopularTechThere are many problems with wind power:
- Wind Power is intermittent (wind farms must rely on conventional power plants to back up their supply)
- Wind Power costs twice as much as electricity generated from fossil fuels
- Wind Power is not economically feasible without subsidies
- Wind Power equals only about 1% of the United State's energy supply (40% Oil, 23% Coal, 23% Natural Gas, 8% Nuclear and 6% Renewables)
- Wind Energy cannot be harnessed to meet the timing of electricity demands
- Wind Energy cannot be stored (unless batteries are used)
- Wind Farm sites are often located in remote locations, far from cities where the electricity is needed
- Wind Farms can effect weather patterns
- Wind Farms can be eyesores (community members often complain about the blinding strobe-light sensation that takes place on wind farms at dawn and dusk)
- Wind Farms can produce noise pollution
- Wind Farms can interfere with radar
- Wind Farms have a devastating effect on birds (an estimated 44,000 birds have been killed over the past two decades by wind turbines in the Altamont Pass, east of San Francisco)
- Wind Farms need 100 times more land area than conventional power plants (to produce 1,000 MW of power, a wind farm would require approximately 192,000 acres, or 300 square miles; a nuclear plant needs less than 1,700 acres, or 2.65 square miles (within its security perimeter fence); and a coal powered plant takes up about 1,950 acres, 3.05 square miles)
Wind Farms - Not In My Back Yard (Video) (5min) (John Stossel, 20/20)
Wind - Blow Back from Neighbors Over Wind Farms (ABC News)
Wind - Catch the Wind, Change the Weather (The New York Times)
Wind - Energy Answer is Not 'Blowing in the Wind' (The Heartland Institute)
Wind - Problems With Wind Power (National Center for Policy Analysis)
Wind - The Dangers of Wind Power (BusinessWeek)
Wind - The True Cost of Electricity from Wind Power And Windmill "Availability" Factors (Glen R. Schleede, Minnesotans For Sustainability)
Wind - Turbine Expansion Said to Threaten Birds (Associated Press)
Wind - Turbine Tower Collapse at Oregon Wind Farm Kills Worker, Injures Another (FOXnews)
Wind - Wind Energy Will Not Reduce US Oil Dependence (Glen R. Schleede, Minnesotans For Sustainability)
Wind - Wind Farms 'A Threat to National Security' (The Times, UK)
Wind - Wind Farm Claims Are So Much Hot Air (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Wind - Wind Farms Disrupt Radar Images (BBC)
Wind - Wind Farms May Not Lower Air Pollution, Study Suggests (The New York Times)
Wind - Wind Farms Worst Eyesore in UK (BBC)
Wind - Wind Power: Red Not Green (National Center for Policy Analysis)
Wind - Wind Turbines Hazardous to Birds, Bats (UPI)
Wind - Wind Turbines Taking Toll on Birds of Prey (USA Today)
Anyone advocating wind power as a solution to our nation's energy needs is not being realistic.
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PT
February 23, 2008 - 08:26 ET by well99You forgot the most important one.It messes up Teddys view.
Environuts Silent?
February 23, 2008 - 09:12 ET by Seabeach4348< Wind Farms have a devastating effect on birds (an estimated 44,000 birds have been killed over the past two decades by wind turbines in the Altamont Pass, east of San Francisco)>
No screams from the usual gang of PETA idiots over this? No hunger strikes from the Sierra Club Bird Watchers? How interesting.
DDT supposedly caused malformed eagles eggs, and it's use was banned, which, BTW, resulted in how many human deaths from malaria and other mosquito-borne diseases over the past 35 years? It's in the millions, isn't it?
Oh. I get it. Good Wind mills produced by nice, clean, non-threatening "green" companies. Bad DDT made by evil, capitalist, chemical company (for profit!!)