Apparently the conscience of a liberal isn’t bound from making ad hominem attacks against Southerners and their voting patterns.
That’s the impression one would get from Paul Krugman’s 286-page diatribe, “The Conscience of a Liberal,” espousing the expansion of the welfare state. The welfare state that would be possible, that is, if it weren’t for Southern white voters who voted Republican.
“It’s almost embarrassing. I talk a lot to political scientists, and you go through the numbers and the polls. And it all boils down – almost everything else goes away, except for five words: ‘Southern whites started voting Republican.’ The backlash against the civil rights movement explains almost everything that’s happened in this country for the past 45 years,” Krugman said in an interview promoting his book on the left-wing Democracy Now! newscast on October 17 .
Krugman has been a columnist for The New York Times since 1999 and is an economics professor at Princeton University.
Krugman believes the ideal situation for the United States hinges on the success of what he calls “the welfare state” – a notion he reiterates over and over again.
But it is Southern whites that have prevented “the welfare state” from existing as he sees fit:
“White backlash against the civil rights movement is the reason America is the only advanced country where a major political party wants to roll back the welfare state. Ronald Reagan began his 1980 campaign with a states’ rights speech outside Philadelphia, Mississippi, the town where three civil rights workers were murdered; Newt Gingrich was able to take over Congress entirely because of the great Southern flip, the switch of Southern whites from overwhelming support for Democrats to overwhelming support for Republicans.”
What constitutes the welfare state? According to Krugman, it all begins with the Democratic-led Congress pursuing “an unabashedly liberal program of expanding the social safety net and reducing inequality – a new New Deal.”
“I believe in a relatively equal society, supported by institutions that limit extremes of wealth and poverty,” Krugman wrote. “I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal and I’m proud of it.”
Krugman has claimed he is not a socialist – but his ideas of strangling the free market in the name of social justice are more socialist than capitalist.















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Southern white voters
October 24, 2007 - 16:36 ET by ThisnThatWhere do you start with this lunacy? I hope he doesn't ever have to go to the south for an assignment without his shots, first. Wouldn't want him to catch any of those NASCAR diseases.
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Krugman is clueless
October 24, 2007 - 16:39 ET by exLibObviously Krugman is unaware that having a "relatively" EQUAL society SUPPORTED by institutions that LIMIT extremes of wealth and poverty flies in the face of Democracy and Civil Liberties and in our current rule of law.
But don't let that Stop you From saying it ain't so Paul.
Contradiction
October 24, 2007 - 16:42 ET by mattm“I believe in ..., supported by institutions that limit extremes of wealth and poverty,”
“I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law.”
These are contradictory statements. You cannot have civil liberties and democracy if you have "institutions" which "support" - read "enforce" limits on extreme wealth and poverty.
The only institution that can "regulate" wealth is the Free Market. The Government's job is to see to it that the Free Market is not abused by crooks or usurped by politicians.
Anything else is tyranny, not democracy, and it will lead to the very extremes Krugman claims to be against: i.e. a very wealthy and very small ruling class elite, and a vast multitude of poor serfs. Just ask the Russians or the Poles who suffered 70 years of "institutions that limit the extremes of wealth and poverty."
I Blame "Liberals" for everything bad in the world.
Take that, Paulie!
Nice try...
October 24, 2007 - 16:47 ET by dervishIt never ceases to amaze me how the liberals never look in the mirror to find the source of their problems.
First, the Southerners Krugman's talking about believe in simple things like national defense, right to life, heterosexual marriage and parenting, the right to public display of religious beliefs -- you get the idea. Democrats in particular, and the country in general, used to believe in the same things. We didn't leave the Democrat party -- they left us. I knew it was over for their kind around here when my grandma voted for Nixon over McGovern in 1972.
Second, I'm pretty sure that the South put our friend Jimmy Carter (D) in office in 1976. I take no pride in that, but there it is.
Third, the South is not nearly as inbred as Yankee liberals believe. Northerners have been migrating here in droves for the past 25 years or more, and they're left free to vote however they want.
He must be running scared about the next election already, and is paving the way for a whole new line of alibis.
When was Ronald Reagan from bama?
October 24, 2007 - 16:46 ET by Lame CherryLiberals are such putz heads when it comes to 289 pages of idiocy. So Southerners are to blame for Ronald Reagan seeing that keeping people one welfare enslaved them...........when Bob Byrd was using his KKK rope to keep them down on the bayou pickin taters en eatin dem tastey beans.
For reality, comrade Krugman should visit a city like Madison, MS or any of a number of southern towns now and behold something odd in the ole white south. People now see major electronics and communication firms with Indians, Blacks and Whites all working and getting along where the old welfare state kept all seperate, poor and unequal.
The greatest boom to the south has been economics finally pulling it out of the Civil War depression which lasted until Ronald Reagan. Not even FDR with his Mobile ship building did a thing for prosperity as blacks got jobs and when the war ended so did the jobs.
The real blame for all America's problems are liberals buying poor people's votes with other people's money. It infuriates those with money and it pisses off the poor having to take handouts and deal with all those idiot government workers who never understand what you are talking about and make you beg for pennies and help.
If Krugman had any brains, he would be blaming his robber barons bosses now allowing the Hispanic and Slav illegals into America because when these liberals in the 1960's told women to get into the work force it forced black men into poverty jobs or crime........the same attack is being thrust upon the black community today by Hispanics stealing jobs of good wages in construction etc...
Blacks have time and again been screwed over not from slavery, but from liberals destroying their ability to advance. Liberals have been the ones with their handouts which have devastated great black learning institutions by putting "Clarence Thomas in Harvard" and then laughing at his diploma so he tossed the thing away in disgust.
I hope someone sends this to your publisher Mr. Krugman and perhaps to you to shame you in how ignorant you are.
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The necessity of "higher
October 24, 2007 - 16:46 ET by fitzfongThe necessity of "higher education" is a myth. When you have ignorant, arrogant buffoons like Paul Krugman indoctrinating their charges at the "elite" institutions with the utter failure that is socialism, it's no wonder that college graduates have become the most incompetent segment of the work force. Not to mention that Krugman is a complete scumbag.
Education vs. Common Sense
October 24, 2007 - 17:00 ET by ThisnThatWhat did Einstein say once: "Education is what you have left after you've forgotton everything you were taught"? Or something like that. Basically, common sense, of which White Southern People have a lot of; and which Krugman and other liberals (he's proud to be one) don't have any of.
People like Krugman are easily manipulated precisely because they have no guiding principles, and are very insecure in their beliefs. They hear something, see it get re-inforced by someone else, and Poof! That's their new approach. He has no convincing arguments for his supposed philosophy, and is very scared of people who have solid life foundations -- that's why he has to attack them, I guess.
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Yeah, like most of the
October 24, 2007 - 18:47 ET by fitzfongYeah, like most of the professors I got stuck with in college, he's an ivory tower, Model U.N. know-nothing. Their lives are lived "in theory"...they have no practical experience in the real world and have utter contempt for those who do. Most work about 10 hours a week, get paid handsomely but lack any discipline...so, without a pot to piss in, they turn into predictable, bitter socialists. And, in their bitterness, they act as if they're intellectually and morally superior to anyone who succeeds without attending a Pinko Factory like Princeton. I'm suspicious of anyone who needs tenure to secure employment.
One of my professors
October 24, 2007 - 19:09 ET by ThisnThatI remember one of my professors had to take over a 2-hour class because a colleague of his became ill. The only thing I remember from that class was his quote on the first day: "If my father knew I was working more than 6 hours a week, he'd roll over in his grave".
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Proud to be the subject of his book.
October 24, 2007 - 16:50 ET by BufordAs a died in the wool "White Southerner" I am glad that I did my part to keep this country from becoming a "Nanny State", 'yep we dun good dang it!
The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program...........Ronald Reagan
Socialism by any other name would still suck
October 24, 2007 - 16:50 ET by Iowa BoyIt's failed every time it's been tried. A simple comparison of The USA's GNP and personal wealth versus that of the EU, India or wherever Socialism is in full-force proves that. Laissez-faire economics works because it the only economic system that reselmbles natural law where a person is free to do what's best for themselves and their family. Socialism takes that freedom away. Seriously, does anybody seriously believe that some government employee (or Paul Krugman) would know what's best for my family and me?
New Yawk Liberal
October 24, 2007 - 16:53 ET by WR JonasWell , there's his problem right there ! He talks to a lot of political scientists. If he would get out among the citizenry and talk to people who actually do something for a living he may find a reason for his delusions.
Sitting at a desk expressing your political bias hardly constitutes working for a living. Poor Paul Krugman. Possessed by personal bigotry.
Back in the Fifties, the
October 24, 2007 - 17:06 ET by robert108Back in the Fifties, the revolutionary comedian Lennie Bruce said: "If you want to see real prejudice, speak in a Southern accent." With lefties, it's still true.
I bet krudman like to get
October 24, 2007 - 17:27 ET by AntiMediaI bet krudman likes to get naked while watching deliverance.
Liberals Lament
October 24, 2007 - 17:32 ET by WoodyMLiberals don't want equal opportunities. They want equal results. They would have a better chance for those results in they weren't so stupid.
Maybe Krugman should rephrase his lament that the expansion of the welfare state would be possible if it weren't for our "free elections"--not southern white men, who have as much right to vote as 18 year old kids and felons for Democrats. (This is the same bunch that got upset with Ann Coulter talking about the way that women vote.)
It's too bad that the people who know the answers to all of our problems never get elected. Maybe they need to step out of Starbucks once in a while and face the real world.
(BTW, if you want to get a liberal mad, ask him how many illegal immigrants from the California fires that he has voluteeed to put up in his house.)
Enron man!
October 24, 2007 - 17:36 ET by easygoer"Regular readers won't be in any doubt about who I want to win,
though New York Times rules prevent me from giving any explicit
endorsement. (Hint: it's the side that benefits from large turnout.)
Above all, though, I want to see democracy vindicated, and the stain of
2000 eradicated, by a clean election in which as many people as
possible get to cast their votes, And all the evidence says that's what the American people want, too. May all of us get our wish." P.Krugman-NYT( Nov.2,2004) Krugman believed Republicans could only win in 2004 by voter suppression.It must have really galled him then,when turnout was a modern record and his boy still went down.He has yet to explain that outcome.I agree with dervish that his new book is in part an alibi for a 2008 Democrat loss(hopefully). The rest is regurgitated socialist drivel
edhenry Here's one PK
October 24, 2007 - 17:55 ET by Edhenryedhenry
Here's one PK will hate, and probably will not even understand.
"The fairest part of America is unequal results"
Anyone care to comment why this makes our country the greatest?
Educated does not = smart
Good point, easygoer
October 24, 2007 - 19:03 ET by ThisnThat"Hint: it's the side that benefits from large turnout". Easygoer, you point out the large turnout in 2004. Krugman's comments show just another example of how liberals simply spew words with no understanding whatsoever. "Talking points rule -- facts are of no consequence" seems to be their motto. And yet Krugman will insist he and his kind are much smarter than those dumb white southerners.
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Southern white voters the
October 24, 2007 - 17:54 ET by MikeBSouthern white voters the cause of all economic ills? Hey, Krugman, what's next, blaming the Jews?
Does this talking rectum honestly believe that a marxist-socialist welfare state is the way to go? Have the people who buy into this stopped to think of the end result of such a philosophy? Here's a hint: Soviet Union. There won't be any gravy train, and very little gravy. Some government bureaucrat will tell you whether you will go to university or trade school. Some government bureaucrat will tell you what job you will have. Some government bureaucrat will tell a factory how much of which product it will produce. Productivity will vanish. The attitude of "As long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work" will prevail with the result that very little will be produced, and that of a very shoddy quality. Some government bureaucrat will tell farmers (who, by the way will no longer own the land they farm) what to plant, and how much they can plant. Krugman can't be as stupid as he lets on, can he? Or, is he stupid enough to admit communism didn't work in Russia, "but we're smarter than they are, so it'll work here"?
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Old White Commies
October 24, 2007 - 18:05 ET by Kevroy“I believe in a relatively equal society, supported by institutions that limit extremes of wealth and poverty,”
Dude, that's all you had to say. We know exactly where you are coming from now....comrade.
Here's Why Socialism Won't Work
October 24, 2007 - 18:18 ET by neighbThese Socialist whackos like Krugman and of course Hillary just don't get it. People who have money have it for a reason: They know how to MAKE IT, SAVE IT, INVEST IT, and MAKE IT GROW. If the lunatic Krugman or Mrs. Bill Clinton, when she becomes (may God help us all) President could somehow wave a magic wand and instantly create equal distribution of wealth in this country, within 6 months the people who have all the money now would have it again, and those who expect the government to support them would be once again sittin' on the porch, broke after pissing all theirs away. These Un-American, Communist jackoffs, like Krugman, need to get the hell out of my country, and begin writing their nutjob columns from Cambodia or...oh, say, maybe another country where socialism works so well....like North Korea.
edhenry Unequal
October 24, 2007 - 18:56 ET by Edhenryedhenry
Unequal results is the only fair result.
Seeing as how we're told all
October 24, 2007 - 19:21 ET by Darth DutchSeeing as how we're told all the time that whites are a minority group in the US and especially white conservative voters, I wonder how this group all of a sudden became so powerful as to irk Krugman?
Darth Dutch
Could be worse
October 24, 2007 - 19:25 ET by Dave DI mean he could blame southern whites and racist republicans for their activities to resegregate society in the 90's. A weird position to take since the examples he tends to use are liberal northern cities that segregated in the 80's.
Krugman, Princeton and Social Economic Theory
October 24, 2007 - 20:07 ET by acaiguana"Krugman has been a columnist for The New York Times since 1999 and is an economics professor at Princeton University."
Oh really, an economics proessor.
Um...
Well he is not a empirical economist nor is he a theoretical economist using mathematical models to explain himself. He certainly isn't a micro-economist.
Let's see...
That would leave Social economics?
Um...
Krugman has been a twit for a long time, something the MSM can relate with as there are a lot of so-called 'expert' twits waxing eloquent on the virtues of poorly applied logic and impure derivation to conclusion thereto.
The issue with Marx and the failures of Communism and ultimately all forms of socialism is that these systems require totalitarian government oppression, thought control and harsh penalty for deviation to sustain the facade of an 'equal' society.
All pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana Notes from the Bomb Shelter' (soon to be a movie at theaters near you)
As E. O. Wilson said about
October 24, 2007 - 22:09 ET by MikeBAs E. O. Wilson said about Marxism, "Great theory, wrong species." As your little buddies demonstrate daily by making meals out of six-legged marxists.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Krugman has been a twit for a long time
October 24, 2007 - 22:19 ET by Del DolemonteNo, he's been an upper-class twit
http://www.youtube.c...
As for former ENRON employee Krugs, I refer you to the Krugman Truth Squad:
http://www.nationalr...
http://www.randomjot...
http://home.pacbell....
Del Dolmonte - you are a gem among the jewels.
October 24, 2007 - 23:02 ET by acaiguanaI never considered Krugman's opinion worth following, but your links are just great.
It is good to know that some of my peers and (possibly) classmates have decided to take up the sword of truth against this incredible font of insanity masked behind a Princeton Economics Professorship.
I have always claimed that the product teaching in our Universities are poorly educated by poorly educated people.
Krugman proves that intellectual honesty and integrity are but a thin smoke and vapor screen from which to lie with no shame.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana Notes from the Bomb Shelter' (soon to be a movie at theaters near you)
"“I believe in a
October 24, 2007 - 20:19 ET by ckc1227"“I believe in a relatively equal society, supported by institutions
that limit extremes of wealth and poverty,” Krugman wrote. “I believe
in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a
liberal and I’m proud of it.”"
Notice he didn't say he believes in the Constitution though. He makes it obvious every time he opens his mouth that he does not.
Krugman is an ass-on-fire flaming communist.
October 24, 2007 - 20:31 ET by Dave R“I believe in a relatively equal society, supported by institutions
that limit extremes of wealth and poverty,” Krugman wrote. “I believe
in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a
liberal and I’m proud of it.”
No, Krugman, that makes you a communist.
What's the difference
October 24, 2007 - 20:33 ET by fitzfongWhat's the difference anymore?
Perhaps a liberal
October 24, 2007 - 22:12 ET by MikeBPerhaps a liberal communist? He believes in a society with equal results (communism) at the same time he holds the diametrically opposed idea of rule of law and of justice. Holding diametrically opposed viewpoints simutaneously while being oblivious of the fact, or while recognizing that fact but not having a psychotic episode over it is a liberal ability.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Do Ted Rall and Krugman
October 25, 2007 - 09:01 ET by kathleenirishDo Ted Rall and Krugman know they're white?
Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar.
What is "relative
October 25, 2007 - 12:16 ET by misterbee241What is "relative equality"? Either "all men are created equal" or not. And who gets to decide what's "extreme" wealth or poverty? Oh, I get it - a classless society like Lenin, Marx, Mao and Stalin wanted. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Who wouldnt be for that.(sarcasm)
I've never seen much difference between a liberal and a socialist or a communist anyway.
Southern Secession
October 25, 2007 - 15:10 ET by JEB StewartSee,
If the north would have let the south secede, he would not have this issue.