Maddow When Cornered Pretends She's a Private Person With No Opinions
You don't know me, Rachel Maddow complained -- twice -- to Reason magazine editor Nick Gillespie in her hissy fit Friday night on HBO's "Real Time With Bill Maher."
Yet again, Maddow gets it wrong. By the incisive questions he asked, and Maddow's reluctance to answer them, Gillespie showed he knows her all too well. (video clip after page break)
Seguing from a discussion of the Fast & Furious scandal, Gillespie condemned Attorney General Eric Holder for his role in the war on drugs --
GILLESPIE: And the scandal is that there's a drug war which is another thing which Eric Holder is very happy to persecute and prosecute and repress people on, another problem.
MAHER: We are totally eye to eye on that, right. Obama administration gets an F on drugs.GILLESPIE: What can you say when Uruguay is leading the way into the future of freedom by legalizing marijuana?
MADDOW: I feel so contrarian, I feel, all of a sudden I feel like a narc. Like, I'm against the drug war too but I just want to ...
GILLESPIE: Well, you should not be forced by your Democratic partisanship to be forced into ...MADDOW (exasperated): See, I'm just trying to say a nice thing and already, you're a hack! (crosstalk)
GILLESPIE: No, no, that's not what I'm saying, that's not what I'm saying ...
MADDOW: You're like this little ball of hostility. Let us reason together.
GILLESPIE: You will always take the side of a Democrat over a Republican.
MADDOW (saddened, her feelings hurt): No, I won't. You don't even know me.
GILLESPIE (not backing down): What's an example? I've seen your show.
MADDOW (sarcastically, mocking Gillespie, more crosstalk): I assume! I assume that you've always done this thing I believe that you've done based on the way you look. (Yes -- "based on the way you look")GILLESPIE: So, what's a Republican, what's a Republican that you pick over a Democrat in an issue of ...
MAHER (racing to Maddow's rescue): That's not a fair question. If there were Repub-, you can ask me the same question, you could tell, I could answer that question ...GILLESPIE: OK, but I asked her. (pointing to Maddow)
MAHER: ... 20 years ago, but Republicans have changed. I haven't changed. You (referring to Maddow) probably would say the same thing.
What a shock, the opinions held by Maher and Maddow have remained frozen in amber for two decades. Saves them all that trouble of thinking things through ever again.
Maddow's "you don't even know me" defense was strange enough the first time. (A friend told me it was Maddow's version of "Don't you know who I am?!"). The second time Maddow resorted to it was outright bizarre, several minutes later during a discussion of the health care law enacted in Massachusetts while Mitt Romney was governor -- aka, Romneycare -- leading to the federal Affordable Care Act in 2010, aka, Obamacare --
MAHER: This is how the Democrats should have sold it to begin with! We are going to force those freeloaders in the emergency room to pay! Why didn't they, that's how Clinton would have sold it. He would have triangulated this and sold it the way the Republicans ...
ACTOR MARK RUFFALO: That's how Bush would have sold it.
MAHER: You know what? Mitt Romney said on the campaign trail this week, he said we're going to get rid of Obamacare and return to personal responsibility. This is the return to personal responsibility, is Obamacare!RUFFALO: Which is why it was Romneycare in the first place.
MAHER: Exactly!GILLESPIE (to Maddow): So this is, to go back to the question, Romneycare is something that you would agree with, you would say that's a great Republican policy.
MAHER: Yeah.
MADDOW (pausing, gears furiously whirring): You don't know anything about me.
GILLESPIE: I'm just asking.MADDOW: You should start making your arguments from places other than, here's a thing I'm assuming about you!
MAHER (to Maddow, surprised): Wait, you're not for Romneycare? (Didn't you get the memo ...?)
MADDOW (still trying to change subject): Start from something that's not about me. Make a case for yourself on your own terms.MAHER (again asking Maddow): You're not for Romneycare?
GILLESPIE (again not backing down): Are you a fan of Romneycare?
MADDOW (all but covering ears with hands): Wha-, make your point, dude!
GILLESPIE: I'm asking the ...MAHER (To Maddow, a third time, futilely): You're not for Romneycare?!
GILLESPIE: You're not for Romneycare?
MADDOW (morphing into Mrs. Howell on "Gilligan's Island" dealt a bad hand at bridge): Leave me alone about Romneycare, all of you! (glances at treasonous Maher). ... Listen, my job is to cover these things, not to tell you how I like them or not.
Followed by that rarity from a Maher audience -- a moment of tomb-like silence as the sheer hilarity of what Maddow just claimed sank in, before Maher uttered a feeble "oh" and an audience filled with Maddow fans as shown by their boisterous applause earlier when she was introduced began belatedly cheering for her again, lest their continued awkward silence make for a YouTube video that might doom Maddow's career.
There it was again -- "You don't know anything about me" -- as if Maddow has more in common with Emily Dickinson than Joan Rivers.
As if this ambitious media climber was actually a timorous wallflower suddenly thrust into the media spotlight amid all these brutish men with their impertinent questions, over and over and over! (wave arms for emphasis).
To make matters worse, Maddow followed this with a claim that initially silenced even a partisan audience -- "My job is to cover these things, not to tell you how I like them or not."
Which is the opposite of what Maddow does every weeknight on MSNBC, as anyone who has spent even random seconds watching her show while channel surfing is aware. The program is officially titled "The Rachel Maddow Show" but would be more accurately subtitled, "Liberal politics I like, conservative politics I loathe."
It's a formula Maddow followed at left-wing Air America Radio, then during guest spots and filling in for former MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann, and when she was given her own cable show three years ago.
Maddow doesn't limit herself to opining there, but also does so in venues such as, ahem, the Maher show, regular appearances on "Meet the Press," her Twitter feed, chummy chats with David Letterman and Jay Leno, her book that was published this year, "Drift," and frequent fawning interviews in the media.
Maddow does not remain so engaged to tell us the news, which was invariably reported long before she got to it. She lives and breathes to opine on this, that and everything else -- and denying it shows that Maddow knows less about herself than does her new acquaintance, Nick Gillespie.
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Notice to Government Employees
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:49pm.
If you obey an unlawful order of President Obama's, you will be held accountable for your actions. You will be charged, arrested, tried and convicted for violating your oath of office. Just like the Nazi military was held accountable at the Nuremberg Trials, you will not be able to claim you were just following orders.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
And this relates to the topic HOW?
Submitted by goodone91 on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:22pm.
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The Link Is:
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:42pm.
"And the scandal is that there's a drug war which is another thing which Eric Holder is very happy to persecute and prosecute and repress people on, another problem."
ATF agents obeyed unlawful orders from the White House. Can I prove that? Nope? But we all know that's what happened. How do we know? Because everything Obama says turns out to be the exact opposite of what has or will happen. And you can take that to the bank.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
➚ She's a Rhode Scholar?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:50pm.
"My job is to cover these things, not to tell you how I like them or not." Whaaaat???
I Know
Submitted by tcm14 on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:51pm.
The first stage is denial...
Au contraire,
Submitted by spallatial on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:54pm.
we do know you Ms Maddow.
You don't know anything about me.
Submitted by rman2 on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 7:57pm.
Granted, I do not know much about you, but what I do know about you makes me laugh out loud when you spew liberal talking points like a brainless shrew.
Oh welcome to my living room...not.
Submitted by vote24 on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:02pm.
The worst of the worst of the worst of the worst. With Leftists this far off their message I have trouble believing they could gain 25% of anything without massive media bias. Absolute brainwashing. It's been going on for years. No competition at the very highest levels. Massive self adulation and self loathing.
I may get flack for this,
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:07pm.
but I thought Maddow's 1-on-1 interview with the Hoover Dam was truly eye-opening.
After it was over, all I could say was "Damn, that really is one helluva dam."
In contrast, Crazy Larry's interview with that diner table left me kinda flat, as did Schultz's suburban utility pole retrospective. Not much 'Forward' in either of those.
Yep, they just don't get much ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:22pm.
'boulder' than ol' Rach when it comes to rock solid interviews with liberals, while taking conservative ideology for granite.
MD
One Helluva Dam is Right!
Submitted by shannon76 on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 10:47pm.
Even Spuds Maddow can't take away from the grandeur that is the Hoover Dam.
Love the irony of a lazy Marxist hipster making her political case for America's transformation in front of a landmark that represents hard-work, vision, and risk.
I just love how liberals
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:35pm.
I just love how liberals continue to insist that despite being on TV talking 5 days a week, no one can have any idea what they think about anything.
Then maybe it's time to shut up, Ms. Maddow.
Well now
Submitted by chiefpayne on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 2:44pm.
considering her current ratings, she's probably quite correct that almost NO ONE knows what she's thinking about.
Then again, those who DO watch her, know she doesn't HAVE any original thoughts except those given her by the DNC.
Sad. Next she'll be saying
Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 8:51pm.
Sad. Next she'll be saying 'Don't hit me, I'm just a girl!'
Militant feminists across the globe must be so proud. I guess they'll have to stop singing 'anything you can do I can do better'.
Hurt feelings
Submitted by averageschmoe on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:00pm.
I think she was going to cry. That would have been her next gig. Poor me. Victim. Everyone's bulleying me.
FIrst off, doesn't Bill Maher pretty much undermine
Submitted by Lipton on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:05pm.
Rachel's assertion that the Right is only going after this issue because they are concerned about guns being taken away, when he basically says guns are too freely available?
Watching Maddow, I get the impression she is very much used to having an upper hand in some way. She can't seem to be able to hold up to pressure when she is truly challenged-- just like Obama, IMO. Sometimes, I think that she is in a sense treated like a minority (because she is gay) and that has handicapped her ability to argue. She has gotten special treatment and expects things to stay that way.
Since I'm a nice guy...
Submitted by Guapo Diablo on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:28pm.
I would have offered to take her to Hooters. Have some wings and see if we can find some common ground.
She reminds me of...
Submitted by poseA on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 9:44pm.
a young black man at a party once who decided I was the white he should mess with. He started off by making rude comments to my lady. When I called him on it, he started chest bumping me and telling me I didn't know who he was and that I had better watch it. I told him that I didn't care who he was, which infuriated him. He came at me, I presume to chest bump me some more. I hurt him badly and still didn't care who he was.
Your job?
Submitted by IndianaCarl on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 10:51pm.
"my job is to cover these things, not to tell you how I like them or not."
Then start DOING your job as per that description, and quit telling us how much you like or dislike things. (Of course, that presumes that anyone actually watches your show...)
God Bless the U.S.A. and the troops that defend her and her Constitution.
➚ Not a chance
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 10:58pm.
Her employer hired her for one reason, to disseminate liberal talking points.
I'm hoping she takes Ann Curry's job with Matt Lauer. It would be an odd symmetry.
Looked to me like Maddow was
Submitted by shannon76 on Mon, 06/25/2012 - 10:57pm.
Looked to me like Maddow was on guard from the outset of the telecast. Maddow was intimidated by Nick Gillespie. Gillespie is every bit her equal as a policy wonk, is more informed, and he doesn't go around bragging about how wonky he is; unlike Ms. Maddow whose calling card amongst progressives is supposed to be her policy nerdiness.
She couldn't even handle the tiniest bit of Socratic inquiry from Gillespie! She didn't even want to answer him because she knew it would be a trap that might expose her shallow depth of knowledge. So rather than be exposed, she decided it'd be safer to preserve her progressive street cred and look like an angry teenager.
By the way, I've seen Nick Gillespie go to town on guest panelists before. He was on Stossel once discussing regulation of food, the obesity problem, etc. And he hammered the idiot blonde who is always in favor of the government instructing people on how to eat. Gillespie can get mean when he wants to. He was just toying with Maddow.
About the only thing...
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 12:03am.
...we don't know is is she a he or is he a she?
“You don’t know me”
Submitted by needle on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 7:55am.
“You don’t know me” Maddow repeatedly asserts, and then concludes,
“Listen, my job is to cover these things, not to tell you how I like them or not.”
Which the audience full of airheads astonishingly applauds with approval.
For goodness sake, Maddow, know thyself. That’s a good first step toward integrity, which is something you should look into.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Precisely
Submitted by updoc101 on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 11:00am.
"..my job is to cover these things, not to tell you how I like them or not." Exactly. How much more concise does she need to be?
Even a lib like you, updoc, should know that ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:05pm.
being "concise" does not equal being truthful.
I say "should know', as liberals are prone to engage in denying the truth even as it is biting them in the ass.
MD
Maddow: "My job
Submitted by chiefpayne on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 2:38pm.
is to cover these things, not to tell you how I like them or not."
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
SINCE WHEN???
And can we QUOTE you on this when you (INEVITABLY) start doing EXACTLY that the NEXT TIME you are on TV???