Maddow Slams Romney for Same Ploy She Used Against McCain in 2008
Rachel Maddow to Mitt Romney: Do as I say, not as I've done too.
On her MSNBC show June 7, Maddow criticized the presumptive GOP nominee as unusually dishonest even by the low standards of national politics. (video, audio clips after page break).
"Mr. Romney gets caught saying things that are factually wrong," Maddow said. Not only that, "he does not mind. He doesn't fix it. He doesn't even try to worm out of it. He doesn't appear to feel any shame about it at all. And he's happy to keep telling the lie once he knows it is a lie. ... What is that? Because it is a very consistent thing now."
As an example, Maddow cited Romney's first campaign ad in which President Obama can be heard saying "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose."
Problem is, Maddow said, Obama was quoting John McCain when Obama said this, back in October 2008 when McCain was the GOP nominee. As evidence, Maddow showed footage of an Obama speech on Oct. 16, 2008, with Obama saying, "Senator McCain's campaign actually said and I quote -- if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." It wasn't just Obama saying the same words heard in the Romney ad, it appears this was when Obama said them.
How did Maddow describe this tactic? "Cutting that quote the way they did, and ascribing it to Barack Obama, when what Barack Obama was doing was quoting somebody else for the purpose of criticizing the statement, that is just a flat-out lie. That is not subtle. That is not the kind of thing you get away with even in politics."
It's also "the kind of thing" that Maddow did back when she was on the widely ignored and since-shuttered Air America Radio. Here she is on Oct. 14, 2008 attributing an inherently suspicious quote to McCain (audio) --
So far the only thing we know for sure that John McCain is planning for the debate tomorrow is something that he admitted in an interview on a St. Louis radio station, it was either today or yesterday, it was posted on politicalwire.com today. John McCain said, was asked about why his campaign is running on the Bill Ayers guilt-by-association issue with John McCain, to the point where Sarah Palin is talking about it in her appearances, they're running overt ads about it, there's all sorts of 527 activity around it, but he himself didn't bring it up when he had the opportunity to say it to Obama's face at the last debate. I mean, McCain has been bringing it up apropo of nothing. When asked about other things in interviews he brings up William Ayers. He's been bringing it up on the campaign trail himself, but to Obama's face he has yet to say it.
He's finally asked about that in an interview with a radio station in Missouri and he said, quote, I didn't have the guts, end quote, to talk about Ayers to Obama's face in the last presidential debate -- I didn't have the guts. And so either that means he's going to run for president on the campaign of, I'm gutless, or that means he's going to bring up Bill Ayers in the next debate.
But as I wrote at the time, Maddow's claim grossly distorts what McCain actually said. The evidence for this? The very source cited by Maddow -- politicalwire.com. Here's how it was reported there --
It appears Sen. John McCain will take Sen. Barack Obama up on his challenge.
In an interview on a St. Louis radio station, McCain said Obama's comments that "I didn't have the guts" to talk about William Ayers in the last presidential debate have "probably ensured" that the former 1960s radical will come up in Wednesday's debate.
In other words, McCain saying "I didn't have the guts" was him describing Obama's criticism of McCain for not raising Ayers in the previous debate -- not McCain's reason for deciding against this, as Maddow claimed.
Maddow played no audio of McCain's remarks, most likely since none was provided with the politicalwire story. The link from my 2008 post no longer connects to the politicalwire story cited by Maddow, nor was I able to retrieve it from the politicalwire archives for the 2008 campaign, which extend back only to March 2009.
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Lies And Obfuscation.
Submitted by Samaritan01 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 8:26pm.
Rachel Maddow is talking out of the side of her mouth.....oddly enough she does that naturally without even discussing Romney!
She has to decide which of her two faces to use.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 8:55pm.
If she were any more of a hypocrite, she would simply disappear as a paradox.
haha
Submitted by Dhuko78 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 10:58pm.
good :))
Disappear as a Paradox
Submitted by chiefpayne on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 11:22am.
I LIKE the sound of that...the idea of no more whining and complaining and irritation from Maddow.
Works for ME.
Another hypocrite
Submitted by Jdubbs1977 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 10:31pm.
Now, now, Mr. Maddow is a gentleman who I'm sure just made an honest mistake.
Walker for Prez!
Why would anyone believe the
Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 8:42pm.
Why would anyone believe the former lead singer of The Cars?
Confused???
Submitted by StCroix64 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 8:45pm.
Who is Rachel Maddow? I thought this was Chris Hayes with his glasses off.
Saying things that are factually wrong
Submitted by djwolf12 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 9:03pm.
Hmmm......lets see here:
Obama: Inflating your tires will help you save $ on rising gas prices.
Obama: Here in the 57 states....
Obama: The private sector is doing just fine.
Yeah, Madcow sure knows how to pick a winner!
But is it really really really a lie?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 10:05pm.
Then Senator Obama was using a quote of his opponent against him in 2008. Gov. Romney is now using that quote against Obama in 2012.
Kinda like, you used that guys quote against him, now we are using it against you.
I don't see the lying unfairness of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3a7FC0Jkv8
she
Submitted by grammajane on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 10:17pm.
sounds like she is talking about herself. Lying, dishonest, worms, doesn't fix it.. Isn't that exactly what she does every night? Check out "dishonest" in the dictionary and it comes out madcow, as the meaning.
gutless btw
Submitted by Dhuko78 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:09pm.
How is Mc.Cain and the word 'gutless' even in the same sentence? Five years of torture in the Hanoi Hilton does not make a man gutless imo.
Found the original article, here's an archived link :)
Submitted by Drawn Edited on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:43pm.
http://web.archive.org/web/20081015053327/http://politicalwire.com/archi...
There ya go, Mr. Coleman
Ms. Madcow is an Obamabot and
Submitted by John21 on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 8:39am.
Ms. Madcow is an Obamabot and a far left liberal working for the premier Obama Public Relations Firm of MSNBC.
Did you expect Truth? Really!
Did you expect Honesty? No Chance!!
Did you expect Facts? No Way!!!
The Obama public relations group represented by Ms. Madcow has none of those items to offer, actually they do but that would fail to get their client re-elected.
Those items would also prove the fallacy of liberal agenda and that is totally unacceptable to the world wide liberal/socialist doctrine supporteres.