Lawrence O'Donnell Gets It Wrong - Twice Over - About First-Time Presidential Candidates
Warning: Sweeping pontifical claims ahead from Lawrence O'Donnell. Best taken with shaker of salt.
As is his wont, O'Donnell was holding forth last night during MSNBC's coverage of the Iowa caucuses, making not one but two statements of alleged fact that went beyond dubious to flat-out inaccurate (video after page break) --
O'DONNELL: In Republican presidential politics, familiarity does not breed contempt, it breeds votes. In your lifetime, the Republicans have never nominated a first-time presidential candidate. You have to go to 1964 to Barry Goldwater to get the last one, a fire-breathing conservative who lost worse than any Republican's ever lost. That scared the Republican Party about these first timers. The Democrats, the last four nominees, were first time they ran for president.
RACHEL MADDOW: Yeah.
O'DONNELL: And two of them won, Obama and ...MADDOW: Well, Chris (Matthews) was talking about feeding the hot hand, your hand is hot, we've never seen you before, but go with it.
One can accurately claim that Republicans are not inclined to nominate first-time presidential candidates, but not nearly to the extent declared by O'Donnell. Does the name George W. Bush ring a bell, Larry? Bush, then in his second term as governor of Texas, was nominated by the GOP in 2000 -- in his first campaign for president.
How about Gerald Ford? After becoming president upon Nixon's resignation in 1974, Ford ran two years later seeking to be elected outright -- in his first campaign for president.
O'Donnell doubled down with his bogus claim, asserting that the Democrats' last four nominees had run for the first time. This is true of the last two -- Obama in 2008 and Kerry in 2004 -- but most assuredly not of the next two. Al Gore was the Democratic nominee in 2000, having run in 1988 and given Michael Dukakis a run for his money. In 1996, Bill Clinton was the Democratic nominee running for re-election, though this could not be his first race for president, seeing how Clinton was, uh, already in the White House.
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Facts are not important to the MSNBC 'narrative'
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:05pm.
Hey, did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
"He!! no!"
Submitted by texusmc on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 3:12pm.
(Chrissy) "Germans?? "
(Maddow) "Forget it he's rolling."
"Galvanic's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right."
names were changed to protect the ...innocent.(well sorta ..ok...you know what I mean)
(and this is by no means any attempt to label or call any psychotic's Galvanic..err I mean the other way around!
Gotta Love a little Animal House!
Ah come on
Submitted by wingnut55 on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:16pm.
Just who listens to these people anyway. When was Rachel ever right? If she agreed with me I would be checking my facts very hard.
Right on about Rachel
Submitted by Mrs. Vito on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 6:00pm.
Right on about Rachel 'snark-mama' Maddows. And that goes double for her twin 'sister 'Chris Hayes!! (LOL!)
MSNBC's self described
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:22pm.
MSNBC's self described Socialist Lawrence O'Donnell Gets It Wrong - Twice Over - About First-Time Presidential Candidates
a more descriptive title....
Has any ever asked Larry if he thinks Obama is a socialist?
Fred Savage missed that layup?
Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:25pm.
Maddow who plays the "I am smarter than you all in a boyish kind of way" missed both of those easy and open ended uh, uh, uh untruths?
My bad, it would not have played into the networks meme (of which he denies there is a meme)..............
By the way Galvanic, post of the day, any reference to Animal House is A-OK with me.
Can we equate the MSM to the Omega house?
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:39pm.
Afterall, they're narcissistic and smug in their own sense of eliteness, getting it mostly wrong as the look at average folks with disdain.
If Animal House were to be remade today, Otter could say, "We could fight them with conventional weapons in all 57 states, but . . . ."
Again
Submitted by texusmc on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 3:14pm.
we really need a "Like" button!
Toga, Toga, Toga
Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 5:21pm.
Dean Wormer who is now head of the Congress could turn to the president and say "skinny, smug and anti-american is no way to go through life, Mr President".
I miss the toga parties.... shhhhhhh. my wife does not need to know.
Sorry, but Ford was defeated
Submitted by kg on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:25pm.
Sorry, but Ford was defeated by Carter in '76.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
Erm,
Submitted by HockeyKid on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:40pm.
Which has exactly what to do with his nomination? Read the story again.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
I see your point, kg
Submitted by Jack Coleman on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:47pm.
Didn't mean to imply that Ford was elected in '76, only that he sought to be elected outright. Just added "seeking" to that sentence to clarify.
Does Crazy Larry ever get it right?
Submitted by KyWriter on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:30pm.
Sorry. Rhetorical question.
In one area, yes
Submitted by Matthew Sheffield on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 2:45pm.
He is honest enough to realize that he is a socialist. Most libs are not.
And the "news" is??????
Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 3:08pm.
Is it really news that Larry the Socialist says things that aren't factual? The dude's a capital "s" S-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t.
Yeah this is the same TURD.....
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 3:14pm.
That they are running on the radio a clip of him saying that "GOVERNMENT got us out of the great depression".. NO we were STILL IN A DEPRESSION when the Japs Bombed Pearl Harbor you IDIOT........ IT TOOK A WAR TO GET US OUT OF A DEPRESSION!
Agreed; He's a self claimed socialist
Submitted by Conservator on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 3:50pm.
But then, he's also a horrible actor and seldom do the fools of Hollywood get any political facts accurate. Plus, he works for MSNBC or better stated the delusional fantasy land of political thought.
Larry O'Dumbsh_t
Submitted by telecaster on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 4:10pm.
Another smug, smirky liberal juvenile in sore need of a tune up. May I offer my services?
Craziest Thing O'Donnell Said Last Night
Submitted by shannon76 on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 8:38pm.
That wasn't even the craziest thing O'Donnell said last night.
Did anyone catch the weird theory he had where he went inside Santorum's mind and said his reference to his grandfather (and his hands) was a direct shot at Mitt Romney's grandfather, Gaskell, from Mexico who was Mormon, left America because he couldn't have multiple wives, etc.
It went on from there. It was the most Batsh*t Crazy stuff I've heard in a long time in terms of O'Donnell inferring Santorum's motives. He sounded like a conspiracy theorist lunatic
It is still amazing to me
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 10:49pm.
how these Dopes on M.S.S.R. (MSLSD) still to this day deny that Obama is a socialist. Tingles did it today. Do they not realize that when a person spends all of their time hanging around with Socialists, appoints socialists to be his czars, and governs with an iron fist with Socialist programs, that he is INDEED A SOCIALIST? That rediculous analogy is like seeing a person decked out in all Alabama gear and then saying that person is a diehard LSU fan and if you question that statement, you are nothing but a racist bigot.
And the two that didn't...
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 01/04/2012 - 10:56pm.
"The Democrats, the last four nominees, were first time they ran for president."
Two were elected, two were not. Guess what happened to the two that were not? They never ran for President again. So, what breeds contempt amongst Democrats? Failure. Not humility, mind you, contempt. For the modern democrats: if at first you don't succeed, don't bother trying again 'cause you won't have any support.
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