Maddow on Blame for Solyndra Debacle: Bush, Obama, Whatever
Bankrupt solar panel maker Solyndra made a fleeting appearance on the Rachel Maddow show Monday night, just long enough for Maddow to assure her viewers that this too can be seen as Bush's fault.
Maddow did her best to put a shine on the situation, suggesting the Bush administration was at much at fault for considering Solyndra's application for a $535 million federal loan as the Obama administration was -- for approving it. (video after page break) --
To the extent that Washington's talking about alternative energy right now at all, that talk has to do with a failed government loan to a company called Solyndra, a maker of solar panels. In 2009 Solyndra got a loan for more than half a billion dollars from the US government. This month the company closed its plant, laid off more than a thousand people and went bankrupt. Congress called its top executives to testify last week on Capitol Hill. The executives took the Fifth.
You can argue the Solyndra case any number of ways, whether President Bush was responsible for it since the loan started under him, or whether you want to blame President Obama, whether either administration should have known better to lend to Solyndra or whether this was just a bad bet in one of those public-private partnerships that are never a sure thing, but that nevertheless elected officials are always saying we need more of.
"Whether either administration should have known better" -- in other words, equal culpability for both. Unfortunately for Maddow, the administration that didn't know better was the one led by Barack Obama and Joe Biden. That's why clips of both men touting Solyndra's alleged capacity for job creation are only clicks away at YouTube while one will search in vain for George W. Bush and Dick Cheney gushing on the same subject.
More from Maddow on Solyndra --
Solyndra made headlines last week in the latest round of funding for rural electrification. It's of course the dirty word of clean energy anymore. And this week the conservative weekly The Weekly Standard put President Obama on its cover as 'President Solyndra.' That's what they want to call him, trying to reduce his whole presidency to one loan to one failed maker of solar panels.
Maddow deserves credit for even mentioning Solyndra, sensitive subject that it must be at MSNBC, though her doing so was out of character. More than two weeks have passed since Republicans won special elections to fill House vacancies in New York and Nevada -- and the seldom-tongue tied Maddow still hasn't uttered a word about it.
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If this is what higher education produces....
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 7:45pm.
leave me out.
Educated idiot.....
Submitted by adamsmith on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 8:53am.
I remember thinking twenty five years ago whilst attending University that so many of the Professors were men and women who while brilliant in their respective fields had basically educated themselves STOOPID. Academia has a way of doing that. This Maddow chuckle head is Tokyo Rose, Leni Riefenstahl, and Josef Goebbels all rolled into one. To watch her "reporting" lately, it's like listening to German radio in the '30's. There's no excuse covering Obamalinsky and the Progressives that is too ridiculously stupid. Same goes for Ed the Red, he spins so hard, he could drill himself to China. He's a bigger Smear Artist though, his entire show is smearing right of center, propping up Obamalinsky with one lie after another. If I were a lefty(Thank God I have a functioning brain able to use common sense as well as any acquired education to avoid that mental disorder) I wouldn't be able to watch that ridiculously stupid network that does receive daily instruction on what to "report" from the White House. It's a network like this that is causing the nation to deteriorate, a free society needs a free press. This is not a free press, it's Communist indoctrination. As Maddow sees everything in life as a struggle for lesbians, I would venture to say that 99% of her audience is militant Progressive Communist Lesbians. Who else could watch that crap?
Meanwhile Bush had nothing to do with....
Submitted by USMC8411 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 7:53pm.
the killing of osama! Even though the process started under Bush, Barry was the genius with the "guts" to make the call after 18 hours of golf.....
Keep trying Rick. You mentioned it, so now I have to do my patriotic dooty and report you to attackwatch for saying that obama had something to do with that story....
Yup.
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 10:39am.
Over 7 years of beating the bushes (no pun intended) and collapsing caves without success, but Dear Leader shows up and HE found Osama all by himself in 2 years. How hard could it be? [sarc]
I think this quote sums up Madcow's flaming stupidity:
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 9:22pm.
"whether either administration should have known better to lend to Solyndra".
Really. So Madcow is Scorning the Bush Administration for the Solyndra Bankruptcy when The Bush Administration refused to give a loan to them So it's Bush's fault that Obama inherited a non-loan but loaned them the money anyways.
Even a toddler says they cannot be fooled by the Madcow.
I think Cecil Rhodes hust hurled all over himself in his casket
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:16pm.
Damn this "woman" is stupid.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
And this is why "Rhodes Scholar" Maddow is a joke
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:46pm.
MADDOW: ". . . You can argue the Solyndra case any number of ways, whether President Bush was responsible for it since the loan started under him, . . ."
The "loan" did not start under Bush. Solyndra applied for the loan under a program begun by the Bush Administration, but days before leaving office, the Bush Administration recognized that Solyndra was a bad investment, and suspended the process indefinitely.
MADDOW: ". . . or whether you want to blame President Obama, whether either administration should have known better to lend to Solyndra . . . "
Whoa! The Bush Administration did know better -- IT SUSPENDED SOLYNDRA'S REQUEST INDEFINITELY! It was Obama that went ahead with it despite warnings from Treasury Secretary Geithner and Larry Summers that it was an extremely bad risk. Perhaps the company's CEO's campaign donations were an influence.
MADDOW: ". . . or whether this was just a bad bet in one of those public-private partnerships that are never a sure thing, but that nevertheless elected officials are always saying we need more of."
ELECTED OFFICIALS?!!! MSNBC has been touting the need for Federal investment in green industry since before Obama was elected! Obama did exactly what MSNBC wanted him to do, and in doing so, proved once again that when government picks winners and losers in commercial business, it tends to pick the losers because it's the losers that pump campaign money into political parties for just such favoritism.
Solargate
Submitted by WestHoustonGeo on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:38pm.
Hey Rachel,
Bush's people had this pegged as Radioactive-Bad-Don't- Give-It-A-Penny.
Little barry sucked up to it wholeheartedly, gave it a half billion and it cratered.
Don't even begin to start to comence to blame this on real people.
It was you slime-heals all along who marched this into the ground.
Repent or get out of the way.
M.S.S.R. - Lean Marxist
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:57pm.
This is a red herring. It is a fact that the loan was turned down by the Bush Administration before he left office. Obama picked up the ball on this and ran with it so Madcow is just trying to put a lame "sympathetic" spin on this story to deflect negativity from Obama's flaming incompetence onto Bush to which he had nothing to do with. Sadly for Madcow, the public isn't buying your dogfood anymore. At some point Obama needs to be held responsible for what he is doing to screw up this country. The lapdogs at M.S.S.R. (MSLSD) look pathetic trying to cover for Obama when the whole country knows this had Obama's fingerprints on this can of crap.
Of course it's Bush's Fault
Submitted by pbthinker on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 11:08pm.
Let's face it, had the Bush Administration approved the loan, the Obama Administration wouldn't have had to deal with it. Since they didn't, and the Obama Administration did, they're getting unfairly blamed for it. You just don't understand the new dynamic in Washington D.C. since January 2009. When you have the press behind you, you can say and do anything.
Jeebus
Submitted by donabernathy on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 11:12pm.
the only thing anyone at MSNBC is good for ....is a laugh........ point and laugh kids...point and laugh.
roflmmfaotimgd
obama says "do the Math"
Submitted by xraynova on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 11:33pm.
People, yer lookin at this all wrong:
When GWB rejected Solyndra, refusing to spend the $550M, that reduced the debt by $550M. So when obama flushed the same amount down the WH toilet, that just makes us all even !!
Damn... I just love obamamath !
As W said...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 3:21am.
"That's fuzzy math!"
Obama's Piles
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:38am.
Everything Obama touches turns into a putrefied pile.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
How many 'dirty' landfills
Submitted by ant on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:43am.
How many 'dirty' landfills are filled with the paper towels Rachel and the rest of MSNBC's 'Lean forward' staff use to wipe off Obama's stuff off their chins?
...
Submitted by BTW Biological ... on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 2:09am.
So if I go used car shopping with a friend, but change my mind because it feels like a lemon. If that friend decides to buy the car anyway, if that car immediately breaks down I am to blame? I'm to blame because I was going to get the car, but changed my mind? I don't get why I would be responsible for the risk my friend chose to take.
I'm afraid so, Miss Bio...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 2:13am.
Friends don't let friends drive lemons.
Jer
In the case of Obama, the
Submitted by ant on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 2:23am.
In the case of Obama, the free don't let fiends blind lemmings.
OK, SoL
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 2:29am.
Take your ant mask off...it's not nice to post as an alias!
j/k ant....that was great!!!!!
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Thanks, Blonde! For the
Submitted by ant on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 2:48am.
Thanks, Blonde! For the record, as clever as I think I am, SoL is brilliant. You ain't too bad yourself, kiddo! (understating that, of course, just don't want you to get all diva on us. Ha-ha!)
A little known fact, in the case of Sarah Palin...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 2:42am.
she can see them from her front porch.
The Arctic Lemming (Dicrostonyx torquatus) is a species of rodent in the family Cricetidae. It is found only in Russia.
Jer
Although some species have
Submitted by ant on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 2:57am.
Although some species have been reported among the Congressional Black Caucus and some welfare queens also observed from a safe 'blind' as "putting on their marching boots". Researchers have also noted that a proper command of the English language (even if you're the smartest president evah!) is not necessary to compel some to their 'doom'.
Which one of the 57 states is...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 3:40am.
serviced by the transcontinental railroad leading to Russia? And if obama wanted to see Russia from a front porch, which of the 57 states would he be standing in? Do the Jews pay enough taxes to cover our tickets to view the Arctic Lemming (Dicrostonyx torquatus), a species of rodent in the family Cricetidae which is found only in Russia and only accessible via the transcontinental railroad?
Can I take that transcontinental railroad to Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, or Europe? "Together... YES WE CAN!!" How's that hopey changey crap workin' out for ya'?
Obama, the genius among us. The one. Carter 2 point oh.
I'm sure if Obummer could see
Submitted by ant on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 3:51am.
I'm sure if Obummer could see Russia from a front porch while listening to "the most beautiful of sounds..the Muslim call to prayer..", he would definitely,"..wear that WITH a badge of honor..". Did you mention he's a genius? Wouldn't want to have to report you at Attackwatch...and yet, Bush was the tyrant, or so I've been told by 'I Won'.
"All this for a f---ing flag?!"
global silicon shortage
Submitted by Injest on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 5:53am.
The Arctic Lemming (Dicrostonyx torquatus) is a species of rodent in the family Cricetidae. It is found only in Russia.
Jer
That's nice, not sure why you brought it up. How bout something more related to the topic.
From thinkprogress,
Sep 13, 2011 – It's often claimed that the Solyndra loan guarantee was “rushed ... May 2005: Just as a global silicon shortage begins driving up prices of solar …
Jer, do you know where silicone comes from (hint it's in Alaska)?
No clue ea?
Silicone makes up 27.7 % of the Earths (this Earth) crust.
Silicone is the second most common element on Earth (this Earth jer).
Clear so far?
Oh well, basically Obama believes we are/were on the verge of running out of DIRT.
“Just as a global silicon shortage begins”.
Which is worse? Obama using a half billion for a photo op
or
Admitting he thought the planet (AKA Earth, jer) was running out of dirt?
DHMO Dihydrogen monoxide
Dihydrogen monoxide:
is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
may cause severe burns.
is fatal if inhaled.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of Styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides.
Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
Sarcasm not necessary, injest...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 1:45pm.
I didn't bring up lemmings. ant did. And it was just harmless late night banter.
Jer
Actually she had a rodent very close to her too.............
Submitted by djwolf12 on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 8:33pm.
His name was Joe McGinniss.
I'm an Airline pilot.
Submitted by Injest on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 5:21am.
suggesting the Bush administration was at much at fault for considering Solyndra's application for a $535 million federal loan as the Obama administration was -- for approving it.
Considering it? All the way over to the circular filing cabinet! LOL ROFLMAO! I considered becoming an Airline pilot so now, according to Maddow, I'm an Airline pilot.
BTW, The “loan” Solyndra wanted and got from Obama was not in the 2005 energy act! Look it up. Obama ADDED loan guarantees.
The Energy Policy Act of 2005 (Pub.L. 109-58) General provisions Under an amendment in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, Section 406, the Energy Policy Act of 2005 authorizes loan guarantees for innovative technologies that ..................................energy;
To the extent that Washington's talking about alternative energy right now at all, that talk has to do with a failed government loan to a company called Solyndra, a maker of solar panels.
Lets see, hum, Over a Half BILLION taxpayers dollars gone, with nothing to show.
A loan Solyndra did not qualify for.
A loan that had been turned down cold by the Bush Admin.
A loan that the Obama Admin retrieved from the circular filing cabinet.
A loan that the Obama Admin approved knowing it had already been rejected and knowing his own people told him it will fail.
They even told Obama the date that Solyndra would fail and go bankrupt! A loan that Obama altered to ensure his cronies got paid fist WHEN Solyndra failed, went bankrupt!
The FBI raiding Solyndra's office. Solyndra's CEO, CFO both plead the 5th so they don't implicate themselves in the crimes. And that now the White House is stonewalling the investigation! BTW ya stupid twit NONE of this has a dame thing to do with alternative energy, it has every thing to do with corruption, fraud, cover up, political Cronyism !
Great Rant!
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 1:27pm.
I enjoyed reading that (instead of writing it).
Well done.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
the ones you cant name
Submitted by Injest on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 5:25am.
"or whether you want to blame President Obama, whether either administration should have known better to lend to Solyndra"
Ah no. The fact that the Bush turned them down means the Bush admin knew better then to lend to Solyndra.
The fact that Obama did loan them the money means he knew better and did it anyway!
"or whether this was just a bad bet in one of those public-private partnerships that are never a sure thing, but that nevertheless elected officials are always saying we need more of."
Those would be the ones you can't name?
What is this dude talking about?
Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 6:16am.
And why is he wearing a blouse?
Much Bigger
Submitted by AR72 on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 6:18am.
Solyndra is a much bigger scandal than Watergate ever was, but what is Nixon remembered for. With the media on his side, BO will never answer for this criminal debacle. His fingerprints are all over this one and the media won't touch it. They have lost all journalistic credibility.
Face reality
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 6:20am.
President Solyndra? So unfair.
President Unemployment? Check
President Food Stamps? Check
President Stock Market Crash? Check
President Double Dip? Check
AA Rating Check
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:58am.
AA Rating Check
One loan to one failed solar
Submitted by jessieH on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 10:16am.
One loan to one failed solar panel maker? What about cash for clunkers? That was the stupidest idea I have ever heard! The stimulous? Biggest joke ever pulled on the American people, until Obamacare became the montra for the liberal socialists.
Okaaaay...
Submitted by Moosebuster on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 4:45pm.
..."Cash For Cluckers." Is that graphic behind Madcow photoshopped, or is she offering to buy my chickens?
"whether either
Submitted by bagtree on Thu, 03/29/2012 - 3:24am.
"whether either administration should have known better to lend to Solyndra".
Really. So Madcow is Scorning the Bush Administration for the Solyndra Bankruptcy when The Bush Administration refused to give a loan to them So it's Bush's fault that Obama inherited a non-loan but loaned them the money anyways.
Even a toddler says they cannot be fooled by the Madcow.
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