Maddow Dishonestly Claims Texas Voter ID Law Exempts Residents with Concealed Handgun License
Never trust a source as cited by Rachel Maddow.
It's not the sources themselves that are deceitful, at least much of the time. It's what she does with the information they provide that is.
On her MSNBC show Friday night, for example, Maddow was riding one of her favorite hobby horses, alleging that new voter ID laws enacted or proposed in 40 states are little more than GOP-led efforts to suppress voter turnout among core Democrat constituencies.
To bolster her argument, Maddow said this about a new voter ID law in Texas (video after page break) --
Occasionally Republicans tip their hand on this, as they have done in Texas, when Texas Republicans were cranking down voting rights, making it harder to vote in that state than it has ever been before, Texas Republicans carved out an exception to their new you-have-to-show-an-ID-to-vote-now rule. The exception is? (pause for dramatic effect) For anybody who has a concealed carry permit for a weapon. (Stated as story from Texas Observer shown, on new voter ID law, with words "concealed handgun license" broken out from story and prominently displayed). What do you think it is about having a gun that makes the Republican legislators of Texas relax about your eligibility to vote?
What is it about the leftist shills at MSNBC that causes them to relax when it comes to journalism standards?
Anyone checking the source cited by Maddow will see that Texas Republicans carved out no such "exception." Here's how the relevant passage in the Observer story reads --
The legislation requires voters to present one of five acceptable forms of photo ID -- a driver's license, military ID, passport, concealed handgun license or a special voter ID card provided free of charge by the state.
Possessing a concealed handgun license doesn't exempt anyone from the new voter ID law -- it allows a person holding such a license to comply with the law. The alleged "exception" claimed by Maddow extends to four other forms of photo ID, including a driver's license. While legislators are often guilty of the zaniest things, something tells me Texas lawmakers wouldn't pass a photo ID law that exempts everyone with a photo ID.
In case you're wondering if Texas's concealed handgun license includes a photo of the license holder (hence the Observer referring to it as a "photo ID"), it does. Here is a link to the state government website listing requirements for the license, which include photos from the person applying for it. And at risk of stating the obvious, the effectiveness of such a license would be watered down considerably if it did not include a photo of the person to whom it was issued.
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→ She's lying, of course
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:44pm.
Does this idiot consider for a minute, that CCP holders have to carry their identification as well as their permit?
Rachel Maddow is nothing more than Ed Schultz with . . . well, he's got those too.
OF COURSE RANDY MADDOW is LYING.......
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:57pm.
the truth could hit him in the mouth and s/he wouldn't know the difference between the truth...... and a big bucket of recycled Obama Kool-Aide fresh out of the Obama Urinal
I dunno
Submitted by Bob K on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:41pm.
In the case of fat Eddie, it would take a doctors certification to convince me.
Actually, she's right that
Submitted by robert108 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:46pm.
Actually, she's right that voter ID laws strike at core Dem constituencies: the dead, the illegals, the felons and those who try to vote more than once. Not to mention the ones that simply don't exist. It's the point of the law to keep those types from voting.
Jinx Robert!
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:49pm.
You beat me by a minute, although our list varied in the third made-up type of voter.
Cheers!
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I'm sure we aren't the only
Submitted by robert108 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 3:07pm.
I'm sure we aren't the only ones thinking the same thing, Blonde. I consider Maddow an unconscious comedian.
These laws are great but then
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:21pm.
These laws are great but then it rests on the agencies giving out the ID's to vet the applicants. And how do we vet forgeries? We should go to DNA verification.
Agreed, robert108
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:32pm.
Over the past 20-25 years, the Federal government and many states have made it increasingly easier to register to vote. They've even enacted "same-day" voting, which is very susceptible to voter fraud.
But the Left, which is perfectly happy with fining citizens who prefer not to buy a health care plan, balks at having to verify one's identity at the polling place.
Poor Rach
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:47pm.
That is pretty sleazy, even for Ms. Maddow.
What she doesn't understand is that Republicans are FOR picture IDs in order to disenfranchise CERTAIN democrat voters....the dead, the illegals, the imported from other states for the election day voters, amongst others.
She's just got her jockeys in a bunch because it makes ACORN's job (or whoever replaces them this time around) harder to do with out getting caught....a picture ID with an address will do that.
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→ Ann Murray
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:51pm.
At Boomer concerts everywhere, they flick the Bic and call "Snowbird! Snowbird!"
"...core Democrat
Submitted by rbosque on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:48pm.
"...core Democrat constituencies."
No wonder the Dems are nervous, that would mean most ex-cons, illegals, the dead, and imaginary people
We need to start a football pool and
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:52pm.
see how many more shows you will air before they can you. There must be a limit, even for libs, to how much lying is excusable.
No, lying is a resumé
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:18pm.
No, lying is a resumé enhancer with libs in the MSM.
Standards?
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:55pm.
Makes you realize MSNBC has dropped even the pretense of ethical and journalistic standards. Maddow has repeatedly proven herself to be as stupid as a bag of hammers but I doubt that even she is this dumb.
She's lying. She knows she's lying. And her bosses know, or should know she's lying. (If the left can assert that Murdoch had to know about the phone hacking going on it's not a stretch to assert that MSNBC execs know the truth of the story but just don't care because the lies better serve their not-so-hidden agenda.)
And liberals claim FOX is not a legitimate news organization.
"A good communist must be
Submitted by robert108 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 3:09pm.
"A good communist must be willing to lie, cheat, steal, and kill at anytime."
- v.i. lenin
The Red State of Connecticut
Submitted by Fenwick on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:56pm.
Okay, so it's not red at all - but it does require that voters show a photo ID at the voting booth. Mysteriously, this does not prevent CT voters from repeatedly electing Democrats by an overwhelming majority! Progressives' argument that requiring a photo ID to vote squelches the votes of the "underprivileged" falls flat. Their REAL concern is that it inhibits voting by the ineligible, fictional characters and the dead.
For the record, I have several forms of photo ID that qualify for this, and I prefer to use my CT conceal-carry handgun permit. ;-)
Nothing like rubbing it in there, huh Fenwick?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:59pm.
;)
Why don't Democrats drive?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 1:58pm.
I know they're dumb and all, but come on.
Dumb....or.....
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:09pm.
They prefer to ride the trains. They love their trains.
-Jon
Think about it...
Submitted by Dave81 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:02pm.
So let me get this straight...the exception to showing a photo ID is...showing a photo ID? THE MADNESS!!
Did she think that meant you could just whip out your gun and get waved through?
Did she think that meant
Submitted by Diesel on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:20pm.
Did she think that meant you could just whip out your gun and get waved through?
Nah, she just knows that her "brilliant" audience would believe that to be the case.
Armed Men in the Polling Place!
Submitted by Red Jeep on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:53pm.
Oh no! Ladies, quick run in a circle, scream for help and hide your faces under your skirts!
Just get those lies out there no matter how ridiculous.
Here's another exception
Submitted by Dave81 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:06pm.
Here's my photo ID. The name's "Ben Franklin" *wink wink*
At this point...
Submitted by Dr. T on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:16pm.
I think at this point, Maddow can simply change the name of her show to "Maddow Dishonestly Claims."
"Makin' It Up With Maddow"
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:17pm.
"Makin' It Up With Maddow"
"Maddow NFL '11"
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 6:47am.
Neverending Fountain of Lies
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
A not unexpected transition.
Submitted by KyWriter on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:16pm.
Maddow now realizes that her few deranged viewers need more than just snark to keep their interest, so she is slipping into blatant lies. But that is to be expected from someone so ideologically poisoned and intellectually dishonest (par for the course for MSNBC talking heads).
Heard among a gaggle of
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:17pm.
Heard among a gaggle of producers at MSNBC, "Fact check? We don' need no steenkin' fact-check!"
My Texas CHL
Submitted by paragrouper on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:21pm.
State issued? Check
Photo? Check
Address? Check
D/L # on face? Check
Background checks, fingerprints, affidavits than can be used in against me in court, mandatory training and penalties for not keeping my CHL up-to-date? Check, Check, Check and Double-Check
Seems pretty valid to me.
The fact that it's easy to
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 3:29pm.
The fact that it's easy to get a state ID/DL - in fact it is MUCH easier than getting your CHL - doesn't cross this alleged Rhodes Scholars mind. Reach much there Maddow? You must think your audience is comprised of the brain dead!
Ronald Reagan
Rhodes scholar...??
Submitted by wizardjr on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 6:37pm.
You mean Randi Rhodes? Cum Laude graduate in drunken face planting? Now that I can believe.
The Rhodes Scholarship
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 8:12pm.
The Rhodes Scholarship is an international postgraduate award for study at the University of Oxford.
Rachel Maddow is on the list for 1995 {The year in which the scholarship was awarded} at University: Stanford, Oxford College: Lincoln.
HOW? I have NO idea since:
four standards by which applicants were to be judged:
* Literary and scholastic attainments;
* Energy to use one's talents to the full, as exemplified by fondness for and success in sports;
* Truth, courage, devotion to duty, sympathy for and protection of the weak, kindliness, unselfishness and fellowship;
* Moral force of character and instincts to lead, and to take an interest in one's fellow beings.
Seems to me they don't adhere to their own standards, or maybe she used to be honest and moral until she hit her head???
I know you were *probably* just joking, but my literalmind (tm) took you seriously and I figured I'd go ahead and post so just maybe I'd remember this ;-P
Ronald Reagan
amy
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 8:40pm.
Very interesting. Sounds quite subjective doesn't it? I mean how do you prove your courage or truth? Kindliness? Sympathy for the weak?
Sounds like you need to be an exceptional b.s.'er to that scholarship.
Or know someone.
Radical1979 <--- the year I was supposed to graduate
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 10:24pm.
I suppose being good at BS means you'll parrot the latest TP's to "good" effect - PC all the way. Interesting tidbit - it was only for MEN, they had to make a special LAW to get around that codicil in the will!!!
In fact, knowing how they bent and twisted things to subvert that will, if I were a British subject, I'd not set up any philanthropic endeavors!!!
Ronald Reagan
Yep, yep and yep!
Submitted by TexasMom0517 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 6:25pm.
To get my CHL I had to get a full set of fingerprints filed. On any given day, I carry my TX DL, TX CHL and passport card- all three have photos. What an "inconvenience" for this elderly lady! But, then again, it helps me remember who I am! (Joke)
Funny that the moochers, leeches, and ticks have no problem...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:21pm.
...producing a photo ID in order to cash that government check.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I wonder?
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:26pm.
"What do you think it is about having a gun that makes the Republican legislators of Texas relax about your eligibility to vote?"
Humm, could it be that the people who have been issued a CCP have already been, you know, proven to be: a. a lawful resident, b. still alive, and c. eligible to carry a concealed weapon, which means that, no, they aren't a convicted felon, who, by the way, are ineligible to ether carry a concealed weapon or vote? No, that can't be it, can it? Not to an ideological idiot such as yourself, anyways.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Again,
Submitted by pepperoniprince on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:32pm.
I wish that Maddow guy would just go away already.
MADDOW is known for that.
Submitted by buddyc on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:33pm.
MADDOW is known for that. She states a factually false claim about republicans then spends the hour convincing attacking republicans for something that if true, any one would not approve of. She is a loon.
I was glad to hear her boss state that he thinks people at MSNBC are hipper and smarter and but forward a "progressive" news message. It kind of made me laugh. But a progressive is a liberal and there is nothing hip or smart about:
increasing college costs because teachers unions are causing increased tuition costs
lack of jobs for college graduates
the same bankrupt unpopular liberal policies disguised as "progressive"
Tragic..
Submitted by Ricksterct on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:39pm.
A clear case of carpet poisoning affecting her brain...
I love Maddow.
Submitted by Bhaal on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:45pm.
She never lets the truth or facts get in the way of a good story. :)
Since when. . .
Submitted by rickbren on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:53pm.
. . .has the TRUTH ever mattered to ANYONE on the left. . .
Even if it did
Submitted by octavioj on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:55pm.
Is not another form of ID required to even have a concealed permit? How thick can these people be?
In VA,
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 6:52am.
the permit has no photo, but it must be carried at all times in conjunction with a valid DL, which does have a photo.
As noted earlier, the TX permit does have a photo.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
It stuns me that MSNBC, much
Submitted by Van Halen on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 2:58pm.
It stuns me that MSNBC, much less any Liberal who watches that horrid channel, can say a word about Palin, Bush, Cheney, Bachmann - anyone. After HOW MANY times have we caught Maddow being dead wrong or just plain making up nonsense?
Is this the best you can do
Submitted by Soldat44 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 3:01pm.
Is this the best you can do Maddow? How much are you getting paid? Get a real job...if you can find one for your skill level.
Yes, this IS the best
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 3:45pm.
(s)he can do. And, there are no other jobs at LSDNBC for her, the janitor is an illegal, and Ed Schultz will have to die on set before he leaves.
(S)he has several
Submitted by Brad90956 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 4:31pm.
(S)he has several jobs at MSNBC. After her "show" on Friday, she takes out the trash, turns off the lights and sets the alarm at the studio just before putting in the 48 hour DVD of "Lock Up".
Madcow makes a fool out of
Submitted by jessieH on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 3:47pm.
Madcow makes a fool out of shimself, again.
"Maddow dishonestly claims".
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 5:09pm.
You could have stopped right there, Jack. That would seem to cover everything that Maddow has said, and will say.
I'm amazed!
Submitted by ironhead4099 on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 6:05pm.
I'm amazed by how STUPID this cow is! I'm beginning to think she's as dense as Special Ed, with comments like this, and that's a sad state of affairs. With his Laura Ingram slur, his support for the "freedom fighters" that Barry is supporting, and other nonsense from this idiots mouth! We all know that it can't be his brain, because in his case he's the scarecrow from Oz, he doesn't have a brain! Hers is just stupidity!
Rachel, Makeup Artist
Submitted by SaguaroJack on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 6:31pm.
The question is, has Maddow EVER told the truth? about anything? She's a liberal, meaning you know she's lying if her lips are moving.
Somebody here said it right: Maddow is a makeup artist. She makes up shiite and then sells it to liberals, who are stupid enough to buy it.
.
I'm confused.
Submitted by wizardjr on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 6:31pm.
So how is a photo ID an exemption from having a photo ID?
[can someone tell me what sort of drugs or whatever that one needs to enter their universe?]
Maddow Dishonestly Claims Texas Voter ID Law Exempts Residents w
Submitted by afotia on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 7:35pm.
Who is this madcow woman?
Isn't she a Rhodes Scholar?
Submitted by pbthinker on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 8:37pm.
I have to say, the Rhodes committee wasted their money on this one, if she's a Rhodes scholar. The problem with most liberals is they believe all this crap, without investigating anything because it fits the picture they have in their mind. It's not wonder people believe Republicans hate black people and eat babies for lunch, no one changes the meme because they just love it too much.
I understand you can't travel in this country, without ID any more. Is anyone upset that you can't get on an airplane or a train without a picture ID? Of course not because the only thing they want is to be able to commit voter fraud, period. Ironically, it's so transparent, yet no one, in the LSM calls them on it.
It's apparent that our media is undeserving of a 1st amendment protection, they've completely wasted it to become nothing more than Pravda for the DNC.
No, it's Roads Scholar
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 8:44pm.
She knows about concrete and asphalt, and a little about sidewalks.
Lonesome Roads Scholar.
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 3:44am.
Lonesome Roads Scholar.
See this web site:
Submitted by seanrobins on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 8:43pm.
See this web site: http://www.texaschllicense.com/ for a picture of a sample of the Texas concealed photo handgun license.
sean robins
Poor Rach
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 8:53pm.
My guess is Maddow just reads what's on her prompter. She's probably home in her [likely] Village apartment all day, sleeping off the previous night's drug cocktail or braiding her armpit hair. Then, when the minimum-wage-earning doorman presses the button, she knows it's time to get out of bed, pull on her boxers, and head off to work. Once there, she's surely pampered with Old Spice-soaked hot towels, a cappuccino, and the newest issue of The Advocate. Finally, at 5 minutes til 9 ET, she puts on her jungle boots and deuce gear, straps on a strategically placed magnet or two, and reads what put in front of her. The pauses are due to faulty GE equipment or brief power outages; she's not clever enough to create atmosphere.
The saddest part is,
Submitted by wytshus on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 8:55pm.
that her audience will recite this lie as gospel, and it will become established fact. This is happening more and more as we slip deeper and deeper into an Orwellian nightmare of newspeak and deliberate lies to score political points.
the “CORE” Democrat is child under the age of 5
Submitted by Injest on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 9:54pm.
I'm surprised she didn't try and make the claim that Texas pays for
Your driver's license.
Your military ID.
Your passport.
Your concealed handgun license.
Your special voter ID card.
I guess this also means the “core” Democrat voters.
Do not drive.
Have not/are not in the military. They don't serve.
Never travel outside the USA, on an Airplane (note: Airplane)
Do not/have not ever carried a concealed weapon.
Has never voted.
So basically the “CORE” Democrat is child under the age of 5.
CHL
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 07/18/2011 - 10:04pm.
Look on the bright side, Pat. I CAN show my CHL at a polling place here in TX, but I cannot carry concealed at a polling place. That's a felony offense, CHL or no CHL.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
That's messed up.
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 6:54am.
How are you supposed to defend yourself against the New Black Panthers?
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
NBPs are usually found
Submitted by kbTexan on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:21pm.
NBPs are usually found outside polling places, where self-defense is still legal.
Once you are inside the polling place you are at the mercy of the outlaws.
No Picture ID
Submitted by billyjack on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 9:43am.
Rather than worry about IDs, I propose that anyone who wants to vote must solve one algebra word problem.
If train a leaves Los Angeles heading east @ 100 mph and train b leaves Chicago headed west at 80 miles per hour on the same track and both are driven by Democrats how long before they collide.
Too long
Submitted by kbTexan on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:14am.
Way too long. Can we make it LA and Riverside?
Ignorance Abounds
Submitted by kbTexan on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:22pm.
Here's something else that can keep Maddow up at nights...
I can use my Texas CHL as identification to get through security at the airport!
Beside everything else, there are a lot of Democrats in Texas who carry concealed weapons. I had a guy show up at one of my CHL classes wearing an Obama hat and t-shirt. Ms. Maddow ASSUMES that only conservative Republicans care about the safety of their families and their property.
I'm sure glad that the good
Submitted by ChicagoSteve on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:44pm.
I'm sure glad that the good people of News Busters takes the time to watch and monitor this wack job, so that I don't have to!